[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER] [00:00:11] >> IT'S 7:04. WE'LL START WITH THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. CALL TO ORDER FOR JUNE 4TH, 2026. 6 WE'LL START WITH ROLL CALL. COUNCILMAN WARNER. >> HERE. >> COUNCILMAN MORRIS. >> HERE. >> COUNCILMAN ZEPEDA. >> HERE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. MAYOR SNYDER'S HERE. NEXT, IF YOU'LL RISE, WE WILL HAVE THE INVOCATION. BEFORE YOU START, WE'RE GOING BIG TONIGHT, RIGHT? >> OH, WE'RE GOING BIG? OKAY. NO PROBLEM. GOOD EVENING. LET US PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER WE GIVE YOU HONOR AND PRAISE. WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR US. THE MAYOR, LORD AND STAFF, KEEP US. BLESS US AS WE GO INTO YOUR BUSINESS, LORD. BLESS THE WHOLE CITY, LORD. WE HAVE YOUR ANGELS AROUND US AS WE GET TO OUR DESTINATION. WE GIVE YOU THANKS AND PRAISE FOR WHO YOU ARE. WE GIVE YOU HONOR AND PRAISE IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. [5. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS] >> CITY MANAGER COMMENTS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL, CITIZENS OF HUTTO. THIS IS THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH. WITH THAT COMES INTRODUCING NEW EMPLOYEES THAT ARE JOINING THE CITY AND INTRODUCING THEM TO THE COMMUNITY. I BELIEVE ALL FOUR ARE ATTENDING. WHEN YOU COME UP FRONT JUST REMAIN HERE. PUBLIC, IF YOU'LL HELP ME WELCOME THEM TO TEAM HUTTO. WE ARE WELCOMING TO KEVIN AS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. PREVIOUSLY KENNETH SERVED FOR 23 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. IN HIS FREE TIME, KENNETH ENJOYS SPENDING TIME WITH HIS FAMILY. JOIN ME IN WELCOMING -- OFFICER. PREVIOUSLY FERNANDO WORKED AS A DETECTIVE AND HAS A BACKGROUND IN CRIMINAL. HE HAS A WIFE AND FOUR CHILDREN. HIS FAMILY ENJOYS TRAVELING AND WORKING OUT IN THEIR FREE TIME. SANTOS IS JOINING TEAM HUTTO IN PARKS AND MAINTENANCE. HE HAS BACKGROUND IN MAINTENANCE. AN INTERESTING FACT HE'D LIKE TO SHARE IS HE HAS A LARGE FAMILY WITH FIVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, SIX CHILDREN AND EIGHT GRAND KIDS. HE IS A TECHNOLOGY EXPERT WITH IT NETWORK. HE HAS 14 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO THE HUTTO TEAM. HE DECIDED TO BE A TEAM PLAYER. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, SICITIZENS, THESE ARE YOUR NEW EMPLOYEES. THANK YOU ALL. YOU'RE FREE TO GO OR STAY AS [6. PUBLIC COMMENT] LONG AS YOU LIKE. NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. FIRST UP WE HAVE ROBIN SUTTON. >> I WANT TO CONGRATULATE CORINA [00:05:08] FOR A GREAT CAMPAIGN AND STANDING UP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. MY NAME IS ROBIN SUTTON. I LIVE 505 EAST STREET. I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME RESIDENT. I ALSO HAD THE HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY IN PLACE ONE FROM 20 TO 23. I'M HERE TO CONGRATULATE YOU. YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY ACCOMPLISHED EVERYTHING THAT YOU ACCUSED COUNCIL IN 2018 AND 2019 OF DOING. YOU HAVE STOPPED BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHICH ARE LOYALISTS. YOU TOOK OVER THE EDC ON WHICH THREE OF MEL'S TERMS EXPIRE ON JUNE 30TH. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU HAVE THE VOTES TO EXTEND IT. BECAUSE YOU VOTE FOR YOURSELF. YOU HAVE FILLED THE DIAS WITH YES MEN WHO, FOR SOME REASON, CAN'TED FORM THEIR OWN OPINIONS OR EVEN ACT LIKE THEY HAVE AN INDEPENDENT THOUGHT OR QUESTION OUTSIDE OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND QUESTIONS. DEVELOPERS EVEN GAVE JIM AND AARON A TOTAL OF $2,000 EACH DURING LAST YEAR'S RUNOFF. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY COUNCIL MEMBER SHOULD TAKE MONEY BUT, HEY, THAT'S YOUR SKILL. I'M SURE YOU COORDINATED THAT. WHEN THERE'S A SECRET BACK DOOR ROOM DEAL THAT YOU ACCUSED THOSE IN '18 OF DOING, BUT THIS IS HOW YOU OPERATE NOW. YOU LIKE HANGING OUT IN BARS GETTING DRUNK WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SHUTTING DOWN HOTEL BARS WITH WOMEN THAT ARE NOT YOUR WIVES. YOU LOVED ATTACKING PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR SIMILAR BEHAVIORS AND TRASHED THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA. WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU LOVE A GOOD SHOCK AND AWE MOMENT WHERE YOU GET TO BLINDSIDE PEOPLE. AND YOU SURE GOT THAT ON MAY 7TH. YOU NEED A MOTION TO DIRECT YOURSELF AND YOUR COUNCIL CRONIES ON THE EDC TO LOOK INTO BUILDING A FIRE STATION WHICH, OBVIOUSLY, HAD ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED. WHEN DOES YOUR QUEST FOR REVENGE END? IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU TOLD KATIE YOU HAD ALREADY SELECTED THE ARCHITECT BEFORE THAT 11TH MEETING WHEN THE VOTE WAS TAKEN. WHAT WAS WITNESSED AT THAT MEETING WAS A COMPLETE DISRESPECT OF CITIZENS WHO TOOK THEIR TIME TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS WITH Y'ALL. IT WAS A DISGUSTING DISPLAY OF ARROGANT BEHAVIOR THAT HAS BECOME TOLERATED INCLUDING LAUGHING AND SNICKERING DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT ALL OF YOU, EXCLUDING PETER, KNEW ABOUT THIS PLAN FOR A MOTION, AND IF THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS WITH DOTTIE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD MAKE THE MOTION, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH COUNCIL. THAT WAS THE RULES WHEN I WAS ON IT. IF WE SEEK LEGAL ADVICE, EVERYBODY GETS TO SEE IT. SHE IS THE CITY'S ATTORNEY, NOT YOUR PERSONAL ATTORNEY. AND NEITHER THE GEORGE HYDE. SORRY. IF EVERYONE EXCEPT PETER -- >> I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> NO, IT'S NOT. >> PLEASE, ROBIN. ROBIN. >> YOU ARE GONNA LET OTHER PEOPLE TALK LONGER? YOU'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST. >> WE STOP EVERYBODY AT THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. >> I'M NOT DONE FIGHTING FOR HUTTO. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO WALK ME THROUGH. BRANDON DALEON. ARE YOU SPEAKING OR IS SOMEONE GIVING YOU TIME? YOU WILL HAVE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES, BUT HE HAS THOMAS COOK AND JAMES WEAVER -- SORRY, THOMAS COOK -- >> COUNCILMAN COOKAND JAMES WEAVER. >> I THINK YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A MAXIMUM OF THREE PEOPLE GIVE YOU TIME. YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES. >> THAT'S FINE. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL, FELLOW RESIDENTS. I WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING BIGGER THAN ANY ELECTION CANDIDATE OR POLITICAL DISAGREEMENT. I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT CONSISTENCY OF ACTIVITY AND WHAT WE APPLY TO THOSE SEEKING PUBLIC OFFICE. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THE RUN OFF ELECTION HAS GENERATED SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY. MUCH OF THAT DISCUSSION HAS [00:10:01] CENTERED AROUND CANDIDATE BRANDY MCCOOL AND A SERIES OF SOCIAL MEDIA CONTROVERSIES, ALLEGATIONS, PUBLIC ACCUSATIONS AND CONCERNS RAISED BY MULTIPLE COMMUNITY LEADERS. RECENTLY SCREEN SHOTS WERE PUBLICLY ALLEGING CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ONLINE ACCOUNTS, CAMPAIGN RELATED ACTIVITY, ADDITIONAL CONCERNS WERE RAISED BY JACKIE CUNNINGHAM, WHO PUBLICLY OUTLINED PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AND PAST INTERACTIONS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO HER DECISION NOT TO SUPPORT MISS MCCOOL IN THE RUNOFF ELECTION. I'M NOT HERE TO DECLARE GUILT, INNOCENCE OR ACT AS JUDGE AND JURY. THAT IS NOT MY ROLE AND NOT THE ROLE OF SOCIAL MEDIA. WHAT I AM ASKING FOR IS SOMETHING MUCH SIMPLER. OBJECTIVITY. WHEN CONCERNS ARE RAISED BY CANDIDATES, THEY DESERVE TRANSPARENCY. THEY DESERVE RESPONSES. THEY DESERVE FACTS. THEY DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE INFORMATION THEMSELVES. AT THE SAME TIME WE SHOULD BE CAREFUL NOT TO AUTOMATICALLY DISMISS CONCERNS JUST BECAUSE THEY INVOLVE A CANDIDATE WE SUPPORT POLITICALLY OR PERSONALLY. WHAT TROUBLES ME MOST IS THAT NOT NECESSARILY THE ALLEGATIONS THEMSELVES. WHAT TROUBLES ME IS THE INCONSISTENCY AND HOW SOME PEOPLE CHOOSE TO RESPOND TO THEM. FOR YEARS MANY ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE CLAIMED TO STAND FOR CHARACTER, ETHICS, ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY. THOSE ARE ADMIRABLE PRINCIPLES. BUT THEY ONLY MATTER IF THEY ARE APPLIED EQUALLY. IF CHARACTER CONCERNS ARE IMPORTANT WHEN DISCUSSING ONE CANDIDATE OR ELECTED OFFICIAL, THEY SHOULD BE IMPORTANT WHEN DISCUSSING EVERY CANDIDATE. IF ACCOUNTABILITY MATTERS FOR ONE ELECTED OFFICIAL, IT SHOULD MATTER FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND CANDIDATES. IF TRANSPARENCY IS EXPECTED FROM ONE SIDE, IT SHOULD BE EXPECTED FROM THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL. AND WHAT WE CANNOT DO IS SELECTIVELY ENFORCE STANDARDS BASED ON WHO BELONGS TO WHAT PREFERRED GROUP ORGANIZATIONS OR POLITICAL CIRCLE. MANY RESIDENTS HAVE OBSERVED A CERTAIN ORGANIZATION, ORGANIZATIONS AND INFLUENTIAL VOICES WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE QUICKLY ENDORSED AND SUPPORTED CANDIDATES WHILE APPEARING UNWILLING TO POLITICALLY ACKNOWLEDGE OR ADDRESS LEGITIMATE CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS INVOLVING THOSE SAME INDIVIDUALS. WHETHER THOSE ENDORSEMENTS COME FROM EDUCATION ADVOCATES, BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS, CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, POLITICAL GROUPS OR COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS IS NOT THE POINT. THE POINT IS CONSISTENCY. WHEN CONCERNS ARISE INVOLVING A CANDIDATE WHO IS VIEWED AS AN ISD CANDIDATE, A CHAMBER CANDIDATE, OR A CANDIDATE BACKED BY INFLUENTIAL COMMUNITY GROUPS, THOSE CONCERNS SHOULD NOT BE AUTOMATICALLY DISMISSED SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE POLITICALLY INCONVENIENT. TO IGNORE CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR OWN SIDE WHILE AGGRESSIVELY HIGHLIGHTING ABOUT OTHERS IS NOT LEADERSHIP. IT IS NOT OBJECTIVITY. IT IS GROUP THINK. GROUP THINK OCCURS WHEN LOYALTY TO A GROUP BECOMES MORE IMPORTANT THAN INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT. IT HAPPENS WHEN QUESTIONING A FAVORITE CANDIDATE BECOMES UNACCEPTABLE. IT HAPPENS WHEN CRITICISM IS WELCOME FOR OPPONENTS, BUT DISCOURAGED FOR ALLIES. THAT IS NOT HEALTHY FOR ANY COMMUNITY. THERE IS ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I BELIEVE MANY RESIDENTS ARE BEGINNING TO ASK. WHEN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS, INFLUENTIAL GROUPS OR COMMUNITY ENTITIES BECOME HEAVILY INVOLVED IN MUNICIPAL POLITICS, WE SHOULD ASK OURSELVES A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHAT IS THE END GOAL? WHY IS THERE SUCH AN EFFORT TO INFLUENCE MUNICIPAL RACES? WHY IS THERE SO MUCH ENERGY DIRECTED TOWARDS CITY ELECTIONS INSTEAD THE PRIMARY MISSION THESE ORGANIZATIONS WERE CREATED TO SERVE? WHEN POLITICAL CONTROVERSIES ARISE, WHEN DIVISIONS ARE AMPLIFIED AND WHEN COMMUNITY TENSIONS INCREASE, RESIDENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO WONDER WHAT PURPOSE IS BEING SERVED? IS THE GOAL TO IMPROVE HUTTO OR IS THE GOAL TO CONTROL OUTCOMES? WHEN QUESTIONS ARE REPEATEDLY DISMISSED RATHER THAN ANSWERED, [00:15:03] IT IS NATURAL FOR RESIDENTS TO BEGIN ASKING DIFFICULT QUESTIONS. I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED THIS DOUBLE STANDARD LAST YEAR WHEN I PUBLICLY SPOKE AGAINST ANOTHER CANDIDATE WHO WAS ATTEMPTING TO SELL PRIVATE LAND TO THE CITY WITHOUT ANY RESIDENTS FULLY UNDERSTANDING THE IMPLICATIONS. I WAS TOLD BY SEVERAL PEOPLE TO STAY IN MY LANE. THAT PHRASE STUCK WITH ME. IF RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTED TO STAY IN THEIR LANE WHEN THEY RAISE CONCERNS ABOUT MUNICIPAL MATTERS, THEN PERHAPS THE SAME PRINCIPLES SHOULD APPLY EQUALLY TO THOSE ORGANIZATIONS WHOSE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES LIE ELSEWHERE. THE CHAMBER SHOULD FOCUS ON CHAMBER MATTERS. THE ISD SHOULD FOCUS ON EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN. AND HANDLING ISD BUSINESS. CITY ELECTIONS SHOULD BE BELONGING TO THE VOTERS. WHEN ORGANIZATIONS BEGIN ACTING AS POLITICAL GATEKEEPERS, ENDORSING PREFERRED CANDIDATES WHILE REMAINING SILENT ABOUT CONCERNS INVOLVING THOSE SAME CANDIDATES, RESIDENTS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO QUESTION WHETHER EQUAL STANDARDS ARE TRULY BEING APPLIED. AGAIN, THIS IS NOT ATTACKING ANY ORGANIZATION. IT IS ABOUT MAINTAINING PROPER BOUNDARIES, PRESERVING PUBLIC TRUST AND ENSURING THAT HUTTO'S MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT REMAINS ACCOUNTABLE TO CITIZENS FIRST AND FOREMOST. IF WE WERE ALL EXPECTED TO STAY IN OUR LANES, THEN PERHAPS IT IS TIME FOR EVERYONE TO FOLLOW THAT ADVICE. HUTTO DESERVES BETTER THAN GROUP THINK. WE DESERVE A CULTURE WHERE PEOPLE CAN ASK QUESTIONS WITHOUT BEING ATTACKED. WE DESERVE A CULTURE WHERE FACTS MATTER MORE THAN PERSONALITIES. WE DESERVE WHERE ENDORSEMENTS DO NOT SHIELD ANYONE FROM SCRUTINY. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE DESERVE LEADERS WHOSE CHARACTER HAS DEMONSTRATED CONSISTENTLY, NOT DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. AS VOTERS CONSIDERED THIS RUNOFF ELECTION, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO LOOK BEYOND CAMPAIGN SLOGANS, ENDORSEMENTS AND SOCIAL MEDIA ARGUMENTS. LOOK AT CONDUCT. LOOK AT CONSISTENCY. LOOK AT HOW PEOPLE TREAT OTHERS WHEN THEY DISAGREE. LOOK AT HOW THEY RESPOND WHEN QUESTIONS ARE RAISED. LOOK AT WHETHER THEY UNITE THE COMMUNITY OR DIVIDE IT. THOSE ARE QUALITIES THAT MATTER MOST IN PUBLIC SERVICE. IF VOTERS ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO DEMONSTRATES CONSISTENCY, PROFESSIONALISM AND STRONG CHARACTER OVER TIME, I BELIEVE JERRY REYNOLDS IS AN EXAMPLE WORTH RECOGNIZING. AND THAT'S ALL. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC [7.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.] COMMENT. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 7.1. CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND/OR REMOVAL FROM CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE DID NOT MEET DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS, WHICH I DO WANT TO OFFER UP ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES. THIS IS INCLUDING THE ETHICS DEIB, PLANNING ZONING, ZBA. AND THE RENEWALS COME UP AT THE END OF JUNE, JUNE 30TH. WE COULD HAVE AS MANY AS THREE NOT REUPPING AGAIN. SO WE'LL BE ACCELERATING THOSE INTERVIEW PROCESSES AND MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE. THAT'S IT. >> ANY OTHER -- ALL RIGHT. MOVING TO ITEM 7.2. [7.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, CIP, Fire Safety).] CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS OR UPDATES FROM CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES. ISD DID NOT MEET. DID CIP MEET YET? >> NO. >> NO? >> ON THE FIRE SAFETY, WE MET WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM SAMSUNG AND DISCUSSED NEEDS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE FOR MUTUAL AID RESPONSE. TRAINING IS A BIG THING FOR THEM. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF -- JIM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? >> TRAINING AND ALSO JUST SHARING BEST PRACTICE FOR SPECIFIC COMPANY NEEDS. TWO OTHER COMPANIES THAT WE CAN'T SAY WE'RE ALSO CONSIDERING [00:20:04] IN TALKS WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO. >> WHO WAS ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE? >> MYSELF, COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD. [7.3. Consideration and possible action regarding the Library Advisory Board’s request to fund a virtual webinar training conducted by the American Library Association's United for Libraries Division to be held on July 28, 2026. (Kristin Phillips, Library Advisory Board Members)] >> ALL RIGHT. MOVE ON TO ITEM 7.3 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD'S REQUEST TO FUND A VIRTUAL WEBINAR TRAINING CONDUCTED BY THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION'S UNITED FOR LIBRARIES DIVISION TO BE HELD ON JULY 28, 2026. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. THIS IS KRISTIN PHILLIPS, LIBRARY DIRECTOR. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR FUNDING. WE HAVE DONE THIS FUNDING. PAID FOR THIS FUNDING IN 2025 BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT, AND I WANTED TO SEE IF IT WAS WORTH ATTENDING AGAIN. AND IT REALLY WAS. IT'S A VIRTUAL TRAINING, SO THERE'S NO TRAVEL INVOLVED, NO FOOD INVOLVED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE WOULD DO THE TRAINING RIGHT HERE IN THE LIBRARY'S MEETING ROOM. WE PAY FOR WHAT THEY CALL A GROUP LINK. SO THE GROUP LINK, I SHOW IT LIVE. THERE'S A LINK THAT I PURCHASE. SINCE I'M A MEMBER, WE GET A DISCOUNT ON THAT AS WELL. AND THEN WE ALSO, THE REASON WE'RE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE EARLY BIRD PRICING ENDS ON JULY 17TH SO WE WANTED TO HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GET IN FOR THAT EARLY BIRD PRICING. THE TRAINING IS PUT ON BY THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR UNITED FOR LIBRARIES DIVISION. AND WHAT THE UNITED FOR LIBRARIES DIVISION IS, IS FOR BOARDS. IT'S FOR FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY. IT'S FOR VOLUNTEERS. ALL OF THOSE STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE SUPPORTING THE LIBRARY. SOME OF THE TRAINING THAT'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE. IT WILL BE IN SESSIONS. IT WILL BE ON JULY 28TH FROM 10 TO 3. THINGS LIKE UNDERSTANDING THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN GOVERNANCE AND MANAGEMENT. ADVOCACY AND COMMUNICATING LIBRARY VALUE. INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM AND POLICY GOVERNANCE. STRATEGIC PLANNING AND ALIGNMENT WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS. FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AND LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY. AND EFFECTIVE BOARD DIRECTOR PARTNERSHIPS. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT THIS AS A WAY TO HAVE EVERYBODY HAVE THE SAME TRAINING AT THE SAME TIME. WE DO HAVE A VACANCY. AND SO WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT VACANCY FILLED BEFORE THIS TRAINING SO THAT WE CAN ALL ATTEND THIS AND THEN TALK ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS AND HOW WE'D LIKE TO APPLY IT ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO THE REQUEST IS FOR -- >> OH, SORRY. $126.25. >> HOLY COW. >> I KNOW. >> BUDGET BUSTER. >> SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE LED WITH THAT. THOUGHT THERE'S NO WAY IT'S 100,000. >> CAN YOU TELL THE VALUE OF THE TRAINING? >> LAST YEAR I PAID FOR THE TRAINING AND I HAD TWO BOARD MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED. WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT TO EXPECT, BUT IT WAS ESSENTIALLY A SERIES OF 45-MINUTE TRAINING WITH A 15 MINUTE Q AND A IN BETWEEN. LAST YEAR THERE WERE TRAININGS ON HOW TO CREATE A LIBRARY ECOSYSTEM, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE RECENTLY. SO WE PUT THAT INTO PLACE. BUDGETING, STRATEGIC PLANNING, FINANCIAL PLANNING. ALSO HOW TO BE A UNIFIED VOICE IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE'RE ALL SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE AND SUPPORTING THE SAME INITIATIVES IN THE LIBRARY. SO THE TRAINING WAS INCREDIBLY VALUABLE, ESPECIALLY FOR WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A FAIR COST. >> THANK YOU. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE AS PRESENTED? >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER -- OR MAYOR SNYDER. SECONDED BY ZEPEDA. >> SOME CONTRACTORS FOR A DIFFERENT ITEM. >> OH, OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> ONE QUESTION. >> YES, SIR. >> WILL THIS BE RECORDED IN ANY WAY THAT WE COULD -- FOR FUTURE REPLAY? ONLY IN-HOUSE? >> YES. SO THE RULES ARE, AND I BROUGHT THEM WITH ME BECAUSE I WANT YOU TO KNOW THERE ARE FOUR PAGES OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN DO THIS CONFERENCE. WHETHER THAT BE DOING ONE DAY, DOING THE FULL THREE DAYS. EACH DAY IS FOR A DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER. THIS ONE IS, I WANT TO READ THE LANGUAGE THAT IT SAYS. [00:25:05] IT SAYS THAT FOR THE LIVE VIEWING LINK, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PAYING FOR. AND AFTER WE SHOW THAT LIVE VIEWING LINK, IF WE WANT TO GO BACK AS A GROUP AND LOOK AT IT, LIKE AT A LIBRARY ADVISORY MEETING, WE CAN USE THAT SAME EXACT LINK THROUGH MY ACCOUNT. >> EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD. [8.1. Capital Improvement Projects (CIP) Updates and Presentations (Patricia Davis)] >> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE. >> NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND RELATED ACTION. CITY'S FAVORITE PART. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER. THIS IS THE -- MY MONTHLY CIP UPDATE. JUST WANT TO -- LET ME STEP BACK. PATRICIA DAVIS, INTERIM CITY ENGINEER. AS PART OF OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WE'RE DOING THESE UPDATES. WE DO REMINDERS TO THE CONTRACTORS AND CONSULTANTS THAT THE SCHEDULES AND PROGRESS FOR OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR CITY COUNCIL THAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED AND THAT'S IN OUR UPDATES AND HAS BEEN FORTHCOMING. WE'VE MADE IMPROVEMENTS AND WE'RE MAINTAINING CONSISTENT OR ADDITIONAL MEETINGS FOR MEETING ON CAPITAL PROJECTS. WE ARE IMPROVING OUR DOCUMENTATION. WE ARE ADVANCING CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS UPDATING WITH OUR CONTRACTOR TRACKING AND ESCALATING PROJECTS AND INFORMATION TO OUR MANAGEMENT TEAM AS NECESSARY. AND IMPROVING ON MONITORING MILESTONES. SO THIS CAPITAL UPDATE WILL PROVIDE ALL THE PROJECTS AND CHANGES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE LAST MEETING IN APRIL. AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE AT-RISK PROJECTS AT THE END. SO FAR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, OUR FIRST PROJECT IS 1660 SOUTH U.S. 79. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR UPRR AND TEX DOT TO COMPLETE THEIR REVIEW, AS WELL AS WE'RE WAITING FOR AN ACTUAL AGREEMENT APPROVAL FROM THE UPRR. THERE'S A MEETING THAT THE TEAM TEX DOT AND UPRR IS SCHEDULING FOR AUGUST 19TH. THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS NOT UNTIL AUGUST. AND THE TEAM IS CONSIDERING THAT IT WILL BE A 90% REVIEW AS A RESULT OF UPRR REVIEWING THE TRAFFIC. THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE SIGNAL. AND THE BIDDING FOR THE PROJECT, AS YOU SEE IN RED, HAS BEEN MODIFIED. NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT A FEBRUARY 2027, WHICH THE UPDATE IS QUARTER TO. THAT HAS CHANGED IN ADDITION TO THE RAIL AGREEMENT WILL NOT BE PROCESSED BY UPRR AND TEX DOT UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE THAT AUGUST MEETING. >> AND THAT AUGUST MEETING IS JUST TEX DOT AND UPRR? >> AND THE CITY TEAM. IT'S A COLLABORATIVE MEETING. >> AND WE'RE NOT -- WE'RE OPEN. IF THEY SAID, HEY, WE CAN MEET NEXT MONDAY, WE CAN FIND A WAY -- IT'S IN AUGUST NOT BECAUSE OF ANYBODY'S VACATION SCHEDULE IN HUTTO. IT'S THREE MONTHS AWAY DUE TO ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. >> IT'S DUE TO UPRR AND TEX DOT. THAT IS THE SCHEDULE THAT THEY PROVIDED TO US IN WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE. >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T COME BACK AND SAY, PATRICIA TAKES A MONTH OFF. WE'RE WAITING FOR HER. >> CORRECT. >> I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE YOU OR OUR STAFF. I'M JUST -- AUGUST IS UNACCEPTABLE IN MY OPINION FOR A MEETING. >> OKAY. IT WILL INCLUDE THE CONSULTANT AS WELL. FOR COUNTY ROAD 137, THE PROJECT CURRENTLY IS CONSTRUCTION HAS COMMENCED AND STARTED. AS A RESULT OF THE CONSTRUCTION, WE DO HAVE AN EASEMENT, A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT THAT MUST BE ACQUIRED AS PART OF THE PROJECT. THERE'S WORK IN A DETENTION POND [00:30:01] THAT IS OWNED BY THE HUTTO ISD THAT REQUIRES MORE WORK THAN WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED IN THE PLANS. AND THAT IS BEING COORDINATED WITH HUTTO ISD. THEY DID HAVE THEIR MEETING THIS MONTH AND WE'RE HOPEFUL IN JUNE OR JULY THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT. THIS IS NOT DELAYED THE CONTRACTOR CURRENTLY AND WE ANTICIPATE TO OBTAIN THAT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT SO IT WILL NOT DELAY THE CONTRACTOR. >> WHAT DETENTION POND ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE HAVING TO BUILD A DETENTION POND? >> THERE'S GRADING ADJACENT TO THE ROADWAY WORK, BUT IT'S ON HUTTO ISD IN THEIR -- IT'S THEIR POND CURRENTLY. AND WE ARE CURRENTLY COORDINATING TOF REVIEW AND ENTERTAIN IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HUTTO ISD. THEY WILL ALLOW US TO DO GRADING WORK. AND THE CITY CAN, UPON COMPLETION OF THAT, THE DETENTION POND WILL BE SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN MAINTAIN FOR THAT ROADWAY DRAINAGE. >> OKAY. NOT THE OVERALL DRAINAGE, ONE TO THE SOUTH. IT'S FOR THE ROAD WAY? >> IT'S FOR THE ROAD WAY. >> OKAY. >> BUT WE'RE ENCROACHING INTO -- THERE IS AN EXISTING POND. THERE'S SUBSTANTIALLY MORE GRADING THAN JUST A LITTLE BIT. >> OKAY. THE ETCHMENT PROJECT, REMEMBER IN PREVIOUS SESSIONS, THIS IS TWO COMPONENTS. WE HAVE AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT OF TURN LANES, IMPROVEMENTS WHICH HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, AND THAT -- WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE JUNE 18TH FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW AND ACCEPT THE PROJECT. THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION IS 99% COMPLETE. WE STILL NEED TO DO THE PUNCH LIST AND CLOSEOUT AND ACCEPTANCE, AND THEN WE'LL BRING THE DOCUMENTATION AT THAT TIME. THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE ONE CHANGE ORDER AND WE'LL BRING THAT ALL AT ONE TIME. INNOVATION, THE PROJECT, THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL HAS BEEN COMPLETED. IT IS IN FULL ACTIVATION OF FLASH MODE. THE PROJECT IS CONSIDERED SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED. WE ARE STILL PENDING THE PUNCH LIST AND CLOSE OUT. CONTRACTOR ON THIS PROJECT, WE STILL HAVE A CHANGE ORDER THAT IS STILL UNDER DISCUSSION THAT HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED. AND THEN WE WILL BRING THAT. I BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WHEN I DISCUSS AT RISK, I'LL DISCUSS IN MORE DETAIL. EXCHANGE BOULEVARD. THE PROJECT DESIGN IS 100% COMPLETE. CITY TEAM HAS THE 100% PLAN. WE ARE IN REVIEW OF THOSE AND WILL PROVIDE COMMENTS BACK TO THE CONSULTANT ON THAT. THERE IS ONE RIGHT OF WAY PARCEL THAT HAS BEEN ACQUIRED. THERE'S STILL FOUR REMAINING PARCELS THAT NEED TO BE NEGOTIATED. AND UTILITY RELOCATIONS THAT ARE STILL PENDING. SO THE GOAL IS NOT TO ADVERTISE FOR BIDDING UNTIL WE HAVE OBTAINED THOSE RIGHT OF WAY LAND PARCELS. MAIN HIPPA WAY. WE'RE JUST WAITING TO BEGIN DESIGN. WE'VE COORDINATED THE TIA WITH HUTTO ISD, TEX DOT HAS APPROVED FOR THE SIGNAL. AND HUTTO ISD IS AWARE THAT THEY WILL BE LEADING THE DESIGN. FOR COUNTY ROAD 163, THE PROJECT IS 90% COMPLETE OF THE PS AND E. WE HAVE UPDATED THE PROJECT MAP, AS SHOWN ON THE EXHIBIT. IT EXTENDED TO THE CEMETERY. WE'VE UPDATED THE LIMITS BECAUSE IT WILL NOT GO THAT FAR. AND ON THIS PROJECT THERE ARE SEVEN LAND PARCELS THAT WILL NEED TO BE NEGOTIATED FOR THE PROJECT. ANTICIPATING IN FUTURE COUNCILED A GENERAL AGENDA WILL BE [00:35:02] SUPPLEMENTAL FOR ADDITIONAL COORDINATION THE CONSULTANT HAS TO TWO THE PARCELS THAT ARE POSSIBLE ADDITIONAL WORK SCOPE, AND THAT IS BEING REVIEWED AND EVALUATED BY THE CITY. AND WE'LL BRING BACK THAT SUPPLEMENTAL. FOR COUNTY ROAD 199, THE PROJECT IS 90% COMPLETE WITH THE PS AND E. WE HAVE OBTAINED ONE RIGHT OF WAY PARCEL. WE HAVE -- WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING TWO LAND PARCELS. ONE OF THEM WE HAVE ALREADY SENT OUT AN OFFER PENDING. AND THE UTILITY COORDINATION IS CONTINUING UNTIL WE COMPLETE AND OBTAIN THE 100PS AND E UTILITY COORDINATION WILL BE COLLABORATED UNTIL SPRING OF '27. AND THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE. >> PATRICIA, I DON'T KNOW WHY I DON'T KNOW THIS. MAYBE I SHOULDN'T KNOW. WHAT DOES PS AND E MEAN? >> PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS AND ESTIMATES. >> OKAY. THANKS. >> ALLIANCE BOULEVARD FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE CAPITAL PROGRAM FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL ONLY COMPLETE DESIGN. AND THE PROJECT CURRENTLY IS ON HOLD. WE ARE REVIEWING A REQUEST FOR A IS UP SUPPLEMENTAL ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL. IT HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED. WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD ONCE THE CITY STAFF HAS CONFIRMED WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS TO MOVE FORWARD. >> WE DESIGNED THE ROAD WITHOUT COORDINATING WITH TEX DOT WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING THE LEFTOVER ON TO THE ROAD WHICH MAKES IT NOT MATCH UP RIGHT. OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, RIGHT? >> NOT QUITE. THE SUPPLEMENTAL FOR THIS ONE IS ADDITIONAL WORK, POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL POND DRAINAGE AND DESIGNED FOR -- WE INITIALLY, IN THE DESIGN, DID NOT PRESUME THAT WE WERE GOING TO PUT IN CURBING GUTTER. WE WERE GOING TO WORK WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY AND SOME OF THE DRAINAGE MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL WORK. >> WHAT WAS THE DEAL THAT WASN'T MATCHING UP? OR DID WE ALREADY APPROVE THAT? >> SO THE DESIGN TEX DOT APPROVED THE RIGHT TURN, DEACCELERATION LANE OFF 79 WEST BOUND TO NORTHBOUND. BUT ALSO THE EASTBOUND TO NORTHBOUND HOODED LEFT ALSO THE CROSS SECTION IS A LITTLE BIT WIDER, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE ROAD WAY IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S THE DRAINAGE THAT WE NEED TO DEAL WITH. SO ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE IS NECESSARY ON THE PROJECT. >> WE DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING EXTRA BECAUSE OF THE LANES? >> NOT BECAUSE OF THE LANES. >> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. >> WHEN THE SUPPLEMENTAL COMES IN, IF IT'S DIFFERENT, I'LL COMMUNICATE THAT AT THAT TIME. >> YEAH. I REMEMBER, I WOULD SAY THIS. I DIDN'T KNOW IT DIDN'T MATCH UP UNLESS SOMEHOW WE GOT TOLD THAT. WHEN I SAW 100% I THOUGHT THEY WERE HAVING TO REDO SOMETHING. I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO A MEETING BECAUSE NOW IT'S 100% DESIGN COMPLETE. BUT I THOUGHT THERE WAS STILL SOMETHING THAT HAD TO BE DONE BECAUSE THE ROADS WEREN'T MATCHING UP. I REMEMBER HEARING WE DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE, THAT TEX DOT WAS APPROVING THE LEFTOVER. I'LL DOUBLE-CHECK WHERE THAT WAS AT. >> INNOVATION BOULEVARD. THIS PROJECT IS ON HOLD DUE TO THE STAFFING CHANGES AND JUST THE PROJECT JUST HASN'T -- WE HAVEN'T CONFIRMED THE DESIGN WITH A CONSULTANT. FH130 NORTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD. WE'RE JUST PENDING THE 60% THAT IS SCHEDULED TO BE SUBMITTED -- EXCUSE ME. THE 100% PS AND E IS TO BE SUBMITTED NEXT WEEK. EXCUSE ME. NOT 100%. 60%. COUNTY ROAD 132, THE PLANS ARE 100% COMPLETE. WE HAVE COMPLETED RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITIONS. THAT IS AN IMPROVEMENT. ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN ACQUIRED. THE CITY IS CURRENTLY IN REVIEW OF THE 100% PLANS. AND THE GOAL FOR THIS PROJECT THIS FISCAL YEAR WAS TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN, HAVE IT READY WHEN CONSTRUCTION FUNDING IS [00:40:03] AVAILABLE, THE PROJECT WILL, HOPEFULLY, BE ABLE TO JUST DUST OFF, UPDATE THE DESIGN AND PUT IT OUT FOR BID. LEMMER LOOP. THE SCHEMATIC AND DESIGN IS THE COMBINATION IN THIS PROJECT. DESIGN IS 90%. WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU ALL APPROVED LAST COUNCIL MEETING INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION, WHICH IS THE ICE ANALYSIS. CONSULTANT HAS ALREADY INITIATED THE ICE ANALYSIS, ANTICIPATING SUBMITTING THAT BY SUMMER. AND THE GOAL IS TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN BY THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THE SCHEMATIC. HAVE IT READY. WHEN CONSTRUCTION FUNDING IS AVAILABLE, WE WILL BID THIS PROJECT. >> I GUESS CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. WHEN YOU SAID FUNDING, I THOUGHT YOU SAID THIS WAS ALREADY IN THE BUDGET, WAS FUNDED. >> WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOR THE S SCHEMATIC DESIGN AND DESIGNING, I'LL CALL THEM INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S STILL IN THE BUDGET FOR POTENTIAL BIDDING, BUT IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THAT COST ESTIMATE COMES OUT TO BE. >> NEXT SLIDE SAY HOW MUCH WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR THIS? >> YES. BUT IT'S CONSTRUCTION FUNDING. FISCAL YEAR '27. SO WHEN THE PROJECT DESIGN IS COMPLETE THIS YEAR, WE WOULD DO BIDDING IN FISCAL YEAR '27 AND NOT '26. >> I GOT YOU, OKAY. >> SECOND SEGMENT FURTHER EAST DIFFERENT CONSULTANT. 90% SCHEMATIC HAS BEEN COMPLETED. THE CITY TEAM IS STILL, WE BELIEVE WE'RE AT A FINAL RESULT OF THE ICE ANALYSIS FOR THIS ONE AND ANTICIPATE THIS, WHICH WILL BE A SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE CONSULTANT, IN JULY. PAUL STERN AND CHRIS KELLY THE PROJECT IS PROGRESSING. THE 60% DESIGN SUBMITTAL IS STILL ON SCHEDULE. THE CONSULTANT IS ANTICIPATING TO SUBMIT THAT TOMORROW IS THE SUBMITTAL FOR THAT. AND WE ARE COORDINATING WITH HUTTO ISD. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY TO FIT THE TURN LANE AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. AND ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT 60% DESIGN, THE CITY TEAM WILL REVIEW THAT, EVALUATE AND COORDINATE WITH TEX DOT, HUTTO ISD AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM. LIVE OAK AT ED SCHMITT INTERSECTION. WE ARE CONTINUING TO COORDINATE WITH THE TEAM ON REQUESTING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL LIGHT DESIGN. WE HAVE REVIEWED AND HAVE REQUESTED THE PROPOSAL FOR A SCOPING FEE AND SCHEDULE FROM KENNELLY HORN. WE'RE HOPING WE CAN BRING THAT ON THE JULY 2ND CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. I WILL MOVE NOW TO WATER CAPITAL PROJECTS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING, MS. DAVIS. WE HAVE BEEN INVITED TODAY AT THIS MEETING REGARDING ONE OF OUR PROJECTS. >> EXCUSE ME, SIR. >> YES. >> WE'LL CALL YOU, OKAY. >> YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SORRY. >> THE SHALLOW NOAK PUMP STATION IMPROVEMENTS, WE ARE SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE. WE ARE COMPLETING THE FINAL -- WE NEED OPERATIONS MANUALS AND COOPERATIVE TO GET THE FINAL COMPLETION ACCEPTANCE LETTER AND ALL THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS FOR [00:45:02] COMPLETION. AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT TO HAPPEN AT THE END OF THIS MONTH AND ANTICIPATING POSSIBLY EVEN THE SECOND MEETING IN JULY FOR COUNCIL REQUEST FOR ACCEPTANCE ON THIS ONE. FOR THIS PROJECT, WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE DEVELOPER. IT'S A DEVELOPER DRIVEN PROJECT TO, FOR DESIGN. THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK HAS TWO COMPONENTS. WE HAVE A PIPELINE MAIN, AS WELL AS THE ELEVATED TANK. THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE ON BOTH COMPONENTS. WE ARE WAITING FOR, ON THE PIPELINE, IT'S OUT FOR BID ALREADY. WE JUST HAVE THE CONFIRMATION OF RECORDING THE DOCUMENTS FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY LAND PARCEL FOR THE PROJECT. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WILL BE COMPLETE BEFORE WE OPEN BIDS AND HAVE THE CONTRACTOR START WORK. THE SECOND COMPONENT IS THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK. THE PROJECT WILL GO OUT FOR BIDDING WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK. AND SO THERE WILL BE AN EXPECTATION THAT IF WE HAVE TWO CONTRACTORS THAT WE AWARD FOR BOTH COMPONENTS, BOTH CONTRACTORS COULD POTENTIALLY BE WORKING OVERLAPPING. WE DO NEED THE WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN IN AND COMPLETE IN ORDER TO FILL THE TANK. SO THAT'S WHY THAT COMPONENT WENT AHEAD OF THE ELEVATED TANK. >> WHAT'S THE SCHEDULE ON THAT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION? >> THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS BEEN DONATED. WE JUST HAVE TO RECORD. >> THANK YOU. >> THE IRON TESTING, THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAMS IS STILL EVALUATING THE OPERATIONS AND SYSTEM MAPPING ON THIS COMPONENT. >> ON THAT, I WAS TALKING TO CITY MANAGER. IS THERE A WAY -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE THIS TO PEOPLE. WE KNOW, NOT EVERYBODY ELSE KNOWS, WE'VE GOT THREE WATER SYSTEMS. WHEN SOMEONE COMPLAINS ABOUT BROWN WATER, IT COULD BE MANVILLE. IT COULD BE CITY OF HUTTO. IT COULD BE -- OF HUTTO, IF YOU'RE IN THE CARL STERN, CARL STERN CARMEL CREEK AREA. IS THAT RIGHT, JAMES? >> YES. >> WHILE THAT'S IN HUTTO THAT'S CITY OF MANVILLE. WE'VE ADJUSTED IT SOME. THAT'S OUR CONCERN, SOME OF US ON CITY COUNCIL IS, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO'S GOT THE BROWN WATER. I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE HEAT MAPPING IT. IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO BUT YOU'RE REALLY A MANVILLE WATER. OR IF YOU'RE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND IT'S OUR WATER. OR IF IT'S JONAH OR TAYLOR WATER COMING IN. HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THIS TO PEOPLE? ONE, WE NEED YOU TO HEAT MAP IT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY THIS. AND, TWO, I DON'T KNOW THAT EVEN WE, AS A COUNCIL, HAVE A GOOD GRASP. I DIDN'T KNOW CARMEL CREEK WAS CITY OF HUTTO. IT'S ACTUALLY MANVILLE WATER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL MAYBE A MONTH AGO, I THINK WE TALKED. AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, I HAD NO IDEA THAT WHOLE AREA OF TOWN IS MANVILLE. SO WHEN THEY HAVE BROWN WATER, THAT'S WHY I DON'T HAVE BROWN WATER BECAUSE MY WATER, WHILE CITY OF HUTTO, IS COMING FROM A DIFFERENT SOURCE. WE MIGHT BE THE ONLY CITY THAT'S GOT THIS MANY DIFFERENT WATER. I JUST WANT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC, STAFF, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE IT. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SMARTER THAN US AND GET PAID ALL THE MONEY. SOMEHOW WE GOT TO GET OUT TO WHERE PEOPLE KNOW WHO TO BE MAD ABOUT, INSTEAD OF ALWAYS BLAMING JAMES FOR -- I'M JOKING. IT'S ALWAYS MY FAULT. INSTEAD OF BLAMING ME, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO YELL AT JAMES AND PASS RESOLUTIONS, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT IF IT'S JONAH WATER. WE DON'T HAVE ANY POWER OVER JONAH, OR IF IT'S MANVILLE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT OR NOT. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ABOUT CARMEL CREEK. >> YOU PROVIDED A HEAT MAP. I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE CLUSTERS IN THE CITY. ONE OF THEM SEEMS TO BE OVER THERE BY PUBLIC WORKS ON CR199. MAYBE THEY'RE STILL TAKING MORE DATA. HOPE IT'S A CONTINUING PROJECT. WHAT KIND OF ACTIONS SHORT TERM, NOT NECESSARILY ANSWER COMPLETELY RIGHT NOW, BUT AS FAR AS ADDRESSING THESE, THIS ONE BIG CLUSTER THERE BY OFF CR 199. IS THERE ANY PLANS TO -- HOW DO [00:50:04] WE ADDRESS THE RESULTS? I GUESS PRELIMINARY RESULTS FROM THE HEAT MAP? >> I WILL NEED TO BRING THAT BACK. I'LL NEED TO COORDINATE WITH RICK AND THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM ON THEIR EFFORTS AND DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OVEN SYSTEM MAPPING OR HEAT MAP THAT WE BRING BACK. AND MAYBE A DRAINAGE OR, CALL IT A WATER AREA FOR THE WATER. AND IF THEY HAVE RESULTS FOR WHICH LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THE DISCOLORED WATER. 'CAUSE THERE COULD BE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF BROWN. I CAN REPORT THAT AT THE NEXT -- >> I MEAN, PROBABLY MORE OF A SYSTEMATIC ISSUE THAT COULD BE A LINE OF PIPE OR A WATER SOURCE. BUT IS THERE ANYTHING TO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, SHORT-TERM, THREE, SIX, NINE MONTHS OF HITTING THOSE, WHAT WE KNOW ARE PROBLEM AREAS BASED ON THE HEAT MAP THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED? >> SO I HAVE TWO SECONDS. PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. >> TIME'S UP. THERE YOU GO. NO, I WANT TO HEAR. >> JUST KIND OF A QUICK UPDATE. YOU'VE BEEN PROVIDED WITH SOME OF THE HEAT MAPS ON SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED. FOLLOWING THAT, YOU'LL HAVE ALSO SOME MAPS THAT KIND OF IDENTIFY WATER AGE AND WHAT'S BEING MODELLED, WHERE THE WATER STAYS IN THE SYSTEM THE LONGEST. YOU DID IDENTIFY SOME OF THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WHICH COULD COME FROM ANY OF THOSE WATER SOURCES THAT YOU NAMED, BUT PRIMARILY THAT COMES FROM THE MANVILLE SYSTEM. SO IT HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF CLUSTERS THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING ON THE HEAT MAP. SO WE'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. BUT TO DATE, SOME OF THE LARGER CLUSTERS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED WITH FLUSHING. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE TOOLS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THE MAIN TRANSMISSION MAIN THAT COMES FROM SHILO, GETS FLUSHED ROUTINELY. THAT'S A DIFFERENT PRACTICE THAN WE'VE EVER HAD. BUT THAT'S ALSO 30 MILES OF PIPELINE. SO THAT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE INITIAL STUFF THAT WE'VE DONE TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT MIGHT OCCUR. BUT THIS IS OVER FOUR MONTHS OF DATA. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE CONCLUSIONS IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS. >> THANK YOU, SIR. >> YOU'RE DOING THE HEAT MAP. ARE YOU TAKING OUTDUPLICATE SUBMITTALS? >> EXPLAIN THAT, YOUR QUESTION. >> IF I PUT A POST OUT TOMORROW, TURN IN IF YOU HAVE BROWN WATER. IF SOMEONE'S ALREADY TURNED IT IN BEFORE AND THEY TURN IT IN AGAIN, DOES IT CLICK FOR ANOTHER THING? >> IT COUNTS AS A DIFFERENT TIME FRAME. IT MAY BE THE SAME LOCATION BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT TIME FRAME. IT HELPS US IDENTIFY THE CONSISTENCY OF EVENTS THAT MAY OCCUR. OUR RESPONSE IS TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE CONCERN, SO IT MAY NOT BE THERE AFTER THE RESPONSE, BUT MAY SURFACE AGAIN AT LATER DATE. SO THOSE ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS YOU JUST REPORTING ONCE. >> HOW LONG IS IT BAD, AND IF THEY'RE GETTING CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF THE WATER FLOW MUCH LONGER. >> I GET THAT. YOU WOULD EXPECT ON SOCIAL MEDIA THE WHOLE THING WOULD HAVE BEEN RED. SO TO HAVE A CLUSTER SURPRISES ME, IN SOME ASPECTS, BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS BROWN WATER. I HAVEN'T HAD BROWN WATER BUT ONE TIME IN NINE YEARS, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS IT. AND SO, AGAIN, WHEN I'M HEARING ALL THIS STUFF, I GO BACK TO, WE ALMOST SPENT $20 MILLION TO DO SOMETHING. IF WE SPEND $20 MILLION AND WE FIND OUT THE ISSUE IS ANOTHER PROVIDER, WE JUST SPENT $20 MILLION AND WE STILL GOT BROWN WATER. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER, BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE SAY I HAVE BROWN WATER, THEY DON'T SAY I HAVE BROWN WATER IN THIS DISTRICT OR THIS DISTRICT OR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY JUST SAY, I HAVE IT. THEN ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE AND EVERYBODY'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FIX IT. WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE KNOW WE'RE IDENTIFYING EXACTLY WHERE THE ISSUES ARE. SOME OF IT, TOO, IS COMMUNICATION AND WE MAY HAVE TO WORK WITH ANOTHER PROVIDER TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GETTING MAJOR COMPLAINTS. HOW CAN YOU GUYS GET IT DONE? I GUESS IF IT'S A MANVILLE SYSTEM, IF IT'S A MANVILLE SYSTEM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO FLUSH, I WOULD IMAGINE. IF IT'S MANVILLE FILLING OUR TANK, IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FLUSH? >> SO WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OUR SYSTEM AS THE CITY OF HUTTO. AND SO REGARDLESS OF WHERE THAT SOURCE COMES FROM, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INTEGRITY OF THE SYSTEM IS [00:55:02] ADDRESSED. >> MANVILLE DISTRICT IS ON THEM? ANYBODY NORTH OF LIMBER, THAT'S JONAH, RIGHT? >> CORRECT. THAT WOULD NOT BE A CITY OF HUTTO SYSTEM. THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER, EVEN THOUGH IT'S IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. THE WATER PROVIDERS THERE WOULD ADDRESS THOSE WATER QUALITY ISSUES. WE'RE ONLY GOING TO BE ADDRESSING THE CITY OF HUTTO. IF THAT AREA PRIMARILY GETS SERVED BY THAT PRIMARY SERVER HAS QUALITY ISSUES THE CITY OF HUTTO WILL STILL ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. >> IF IT GOES INTO THE HUTTO CCN. >> ONCE IT GOES INTO HUTTO CC TN, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THAT SYSTEM. >> THANK YOU. >> TOO MUCH TIME. >> I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT SO I DON'T HAVE TO BRING BACK MAPS. OR DO YOU WANT MAPS? >> NO, NO. AS LONG AS HE'S SENDING THEM. >> OKAY. >> BUT DO YOU KNOW WHAT? I WOULD START SHARING THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA. IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE HEARING YOUR COMPLAINTS. WE ARE WORKING ON IT. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S LIKE IT JUST GOES INTO AN E-MAIL BOX OR WHATEVER AND NO ONE HEARS BACK. I WOULD SAY NEXT TO ROADS, MAYBE EVEN ABOVE ROADS. THAT GLASS OF WATER ON THE RIGHT IS WHAT I ALWAYS SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ALWAYS QUITE THAT DARK, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LED TO BELIEVE. SO HOW BIG AN ISSUE IS THAT? AND WHAT WE'RE DOING TO SOLVE IT, I THINK, WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC. >> MAYOR, I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE ANY TIME THAT SOMEONE ENCOUNTERS THIS, FOR THEM TO SUBMIT IT. BECAUSE IT'S RECORDED. IT'S ONE THING TO GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND JUST POST A PICTURE, BUT THAT'S NOT HELPFUL TO US UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE PROBLEM IS, HOW OFTEN IT'S HAPPENING, SO ON SO FORTH. THE MORE DATA WE HAVE, THE BETTER. DOWNLOAD THE APP, SUBMIT IT IN THE SOLVENT APP AND THEN THAT WAY WE HAVE A RECORD OF THE REPORTS COMING IN IN A CENTRALIZED PLACE. >> THOSE THREE GLASSES COULD BE THE SAME AMOUNT OF SEDIMENT. ONE'S STIRRED. ONE'S STIRRED A LITTLE BIT. ONE'S NOT STIRRED. >> I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T DRINK ANY ONE OF THEM. I'M BEING TOLD IF THEY DON'T GET IT FIXED, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE ME DRINK THAT. I REALLY WANT TO GET IT FIXED. >> AND NOW ON TO MORE BROWN WATER. NOW FOR THE OTHER BROWN WATER. >> THE REAL BROWN WATER. >> THE WASTEWATER. >> MY FAVORITE PART. >> SO THE WASTEWATER 01 IS A PROJECT THAT INCLUDES MULTIPLE PROJECTS. THE WINWOOD LIFT STATION, INTERCEPTER, THE CENTRAL LIFT STATION AND THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT LIFT STATION PROJECTS. WE ARE STILL WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION TIME FRAME FOR EACH OF THE PROJECTS. GLENNWOOD IS CLOSE WITH THE GLENNWOOD LIFT STATION AND INTERCEPTER PROJECT COMPONENT. THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, LIFT STATION NUMBER 2 ALSO THAT'S COMING UP IN QUARTER THREE FOR THIS CALENDAR YEAR. AND THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION, THE PROJECT IS STILL ON GOING, STILL ON SCHEDULE CURRENTLY. WE ARE MONITORING LANE WEATHER DELAYS. THIS PROJECT HAS EXPERIENCED SOME RAIN WEATHER DELAYS -- OR DAYS. AND THOSE DAYS, AS THEY ACCUMULATE, WE WILL BRING -- IF THEY IMPACT THE PROJECT TIMELINE, WE'LL BRING THOSE THROUGH A CHANGE ORDER. THE BRUSHY CREEK WASTE THE WATER INTERCEPTER PHASE THREE. THIS IS A DEVELOPER PROJECT. THIS IS JUST COST PARTICIPATION ON OUR PART. SOUTHEAST LOOP WASTEWATER INTERCEPTER. THE PROJECT IS ON GOING. IT IS STILL IN CONSTRUCTION. WE ARE STILL TARGETING ON TARGET FOR THE QUARTER FOUR WHICH WILL BE THE DECEMBER COMPLETION TIMEFRAME, AS THERE ARE DEVELOPMENTS ANTICIPATING COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT. BRUSHY CREEK WASTEWATER INTERCEPTER PHASE FOUR. [01:00:02] THE PROJECT IS ON GOING. CONSTRUCTION HAS STARTED. WE HAVE COMPLETED EIGHT OF THE 16 RIGHT OF WAY LAND PARCELS. WE'RE STILL NEGOTIATING THE REMAINING EIGHT. AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED WORD THAT THESE ARE IMPACTING THE SCHEDULE JUST YET. AND THE CONTRACTOR IS STILL WORKING TO LOCATE THE AT MOST GAS LINE ON THIS PROJECT. >> SORRY. YOU SAID THE CONTRACTOR IS STILL TRYING TO LOCATE THE GAS LINE? >> THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THAT, YES. >> HOW LONG THEY BEEN WORKING ON THAT? >> THREE MONTHS. >> THREE MONTHS AND THEY STILL CAN'T -- ARE THEY SURE THERE'S A GAS LINE THERE? >> THEY SAY THERE'S A GAS LINE THERE. WE HAVE TO FIND IT. >> CAN AT MOST ASSIST? I MEAN, I NEVER HEARD -- I HEARD, HEY, IT'S THREE FEET OFF OR TWO FEET LOWER THAN WE THOUGHT OR SOMETHING. I NEVER HEARD FOR THREE MONTHS. WHAT ARE WE POT HOLING TRYING TO FIND IT AND CAN'T LOCATE IT? >> HAD TO EXCAVATE OVER 30 FEET DEEP. THEY SAID YOU GOTTA KEEP GOING UNTIL YOU FIND IT. >> SO THE CONSTRUCTION DRAWING, WE DO HAVE A DEPTH UP TO 40 FEET. SO THEY WILL CONTINUE TO THAT. THEY'RE DOING IT GRADUALLY, JUST SO THAT -- >> THEY DON'T BREAK IT. >> WE PAY MONEY TO THE BRICATO GUY. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO CAN HELP US? I THINK IT'S -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORD TO USE BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO BE POLITE. >> OBSCENE. >> WE'LL USE THAT ONE. THEY HAVE A GAS SITE. IF THEY'RE JUST TELLING US IT'S THERE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIND IT. I MEAN -- >> I ASKED IF WE COULD PAY SOMEONE TO LOCATE IT AND THEY DECLINED IT. >> WE PAY A GUY, BRECATO. HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE OUT THERE WORKING FOR US AT AT MOST AND ENCORE. WE DON'T PAY HIM A WHOLE LOT. THREE MONTHS, I'M LIKE -- MAN. >> I'LL FIND IT BY ACCIDENT. SORRY. >> PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, THE SLIDE WILL BE COMING UP. SO THE DESIGN IS COMPLETE. WE, AT CITY TEAM, ISSUED A REVIEW COMMENT. THE CONSULTANT SUBMITTED UPDATED PLANS. THEY ARE NOW IN THE CITY COURT FOR REVIEW OF ROUND TWO. WE WILL PROVIDE COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK ON THAT DESIGN SET. THE COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT, WHEN WE REVIEWED IT FOR THE FIRST SUBMITTAL, THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED FOR THE ALIGNMENT. SO OUR RIGHT OF WAY, RIGHT OF WAY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST, SHE'S COORDINATING WITH THE CONSULTANT RIGHT OF WAY TEAM TO ENSURE THAT THE RIGHT OF WAY PARCELS ARE ACQUIRED IN ORDER THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD AND THE CONSULTANT CAN ENSURE THAT THE DESIGN FITS WITHIN THE CORRECT RIGHT OF WAY PARAMETER OR CONSTRAINT. SO BIDDING COULD POTENTIALLY BE DELAYED IF THE CONSULTANT'S RIGHT OF WAY AGENT HAS NOT COMPLETED THEIR COMPONENT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. SO WHEN WE REVIEWED THE PLANS THAT INITIALLY WE THOUGHT THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS COMPLETE, BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY HAD NOT BEEN INITIATED. >> WHICH -- >> SO THE DEVELOPER RETAINED A CONSULTANT. THAT CONSULTANT HAD ON THEIR TEAM A RIGHT OF WAY TEAM, AN APPRAISAL TEAM AND UTILITY COORDINATION. BUT THAT TEAM HAS NOT STARTED THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION. WHEN WE RECEIVED THE PLAN SET FOR THE FIRST REVIEW. >> CAN YOU E-MAIL US THAT INFORMATION, JUST SO WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE GUY AT PEARL ESTATES? THEY'RE ALWAYS QUICK TO SAY IT'S US. I THOUGHT THE RIGHT OF WAY WAS BASICALLY ISD, THE AVERY FAMILY AND THE TEXMEX PEOPLE. ARE YOU TALKING THE NORTH/SOUTH OR THE EAST/WEST SIDE THAT WE HAVE THE ISSUE WITH THE RIGHT OF WAY? >> I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE NORTHERN SECTION. >> 'CAUSE THAT'S -- I BELIEVE THAT'S LITERALLY THE DEVELOPER IS ONE, THE ISD IS ANOTHER AND AVERY FAMILY IS THE OTHER. [01:05:05] EVERYTHING NORTH OF 79 I THINK IS JUST FREE PROPERTY. BUT THEY'RE HAVING AN ISSUE, ALL THREE INCLUDING THE TEX-MEX GUY, WE WERE IN THAT MEETING. WANT THIS REALLY, REALLY QUICK. IF ONE OF THEM'S HOLDING IT UP, IN MY MIND, WE NEED TO KIND OF BRING THEM IN AND QUESTION THEM, IN TERMS OF DO THEY REALLY WANT THIS TO HAPPEN? WE'RE THROWING $30 MILLION AT A LINE THAT BENEFITS PEOPLE THAT RIGHT NOW AREN'T EVEN IN THE CITY. THIS IS FOR FUTURE CITY ANNEXATIONS. >> CORRECT. THE WASTEWATER LINE IS A COST PARTICIPATION AS WELL. FOR THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT PROJECT, THIS PROJECT WAS REVISED TO A BYPASS PROJECT. WE SUBMITTED, OUR CONSULTANT SUBMITTED THE RATE REQUEST TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY OF THE PLANT. TCEQ SUBMITTED A LETTER. THEY DENIED OUR RERATE FOR THE CAPACITY. WE MET WITH THEM AND THE DESIGN CONSULTANT AS ONE TEAM. TCEQ IS IN THE PROCESS OF, THERE'S ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS THAT IS REQUIRED TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE, AS A CITY, WOULD NEED TO HAVE INCREASED MODELLING, EITHER WE CAN CHOOSE TO DO MODELLING WITH THE CONSULTANT OR TCEQ DOES THE MODELLING, BUT WE WON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION BACK UNTIL TCEQ HAS TAKEN ANOTHER LOOK AT IT. CURRENTLY, WE'RE STILL DENIED FOR OUR RERATE. AND IF WE DO HAVE TO COMPLETE ADDITIONAL MODELLING, WE RESUBMIT FOR OUR RERATE. IT PUTS OUR REQUEST BACK IN THE QUEUE AND IT MAY TAKE UP TO A YEAR FOR THEM TO REVIEW AND RE-EVALUATE. >> IT TAKES THEM A YEAR FOR US TO MAKE A REVISION TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN? >> IT GOES BACK IN THE QUEUE 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER -- >> IN THE BACK OF THE LINE. >> BACK TO THE BACK OF THE LINE. >> TELLING ME IT TAKES TCEQ A YEAR TO REVIEW SOMETHING? >> IT SHOULDN'T, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD. >> ALL THE THINGS I LIKE CALLING PEOPLE AND ASKING THEM WHY. IT'S A ONE-YEAR LOOK. WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THAT? ONE YEAR REVIEW PROCESS? FROM DATE OF SUBMITTAL APPROXIMATELY? >> IT COULD BE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, BUT THEY COMMUNICATED TO US 12 MONTHS. SO FOR THE SAME PROJECT, WE'RE STILL -- THAT WILL GIVE US TIME TO CONFIRM THE TWO RIGHT OF WAY PARCELS THAT WE HAVE, AS WELL AS THE CONSULTANT CAN CONTINUE TO DESIGN. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR 70% PLAN. CITY TEAM IS REVIEWING AND EVALUATING THOSE. AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE WILL RETURN, REVIEW COMMENTS TO THE DESIGN CONSULTANT WITHIN TWO WEEKS. # BOTH PROJECTS WILL BE PACKAGED TOGETHER, THE CITY TEAM. ONCE WE HAVE ALL OF THE RIGHT OF WAY AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WE WILL ADVERTISE AND BID BOTH PACKAGES TOGETHER AS ONE PROJECT. COUNTY ROAD 132 AND 79 WAET WASTEWATER INTERCEPTER. THE PROJECT, I BELIEVE, IS ALMOST COMPLETE. AND WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE DEVELOPER TO PROVIDE US THEIR CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS AND CONFIRM THE PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED. MOVE ON TO THE FOX PROJECT. >> YOU DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE? >> I DO NOT. BUT I HAVE TO. THIS PROJECT IS ON THE AT RISK. SO I'LL TALK ABOUT IT FURTHER IN THAT SECTION, BUT CURRENTLY THE PROJECT IS STILL PROGRESSING. THE CONTRACTOR HAS CONTINUED TO WORK. THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME RAIN DELAYS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE [01:10:06] THE LAST APPROVAL OF THE RAIN DAYS ON THE PROJECT. WE'RE STILL TARGETING QUARTER TWO FOR COMPLETION. >> WOW. >> THE UPPER BRUSHY CREEK PERMIT WE ARE STILL WAITING ON THAT. COORDINATING TO GET THAT. >> IS THAT -- WHAT? YOU TALKING ABOUT -- WE NEED THAT FOR BRUSHY CREEK? >> BECAUSE WE'RE IN THEIR -- >> CONSERVATION DISTRICT. >> OH, OKAY. THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WE HAVE TO CONTACT AND GET PERMISSION, IT IS JUST BLOWS MY MIND. NO WONDER WHY YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE. >> EFFECTIVELY HUTTO LAKE PARK IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE FULL CONSERVATION, FLOOD CONTROL STRUCTURE. SO THAT'S WHY MANY TIMES YOU TOUCH ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THAT AREA, YOU HAVE TO GET THEIR PERMISSION IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THINGS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. >> I GET THAT. IT'S JUST WHEN I START HEARING, IT WILL TAKE A YEAR TO GET YOU AN ANSWER, I'M JUST LIKE -- AND WE HAVE TO MAKE REVISIONS, THAT'S ONE MORE YEAR. FOUR YEARS OUT TO GET SOMETHING DONE. THEN YOU HAVE THIS AND EVERYBODY WANTS SOMETHING FROM US, THEY WANT IT IMMEDIATELY. WE ASK FOR SOMETHING, IT'S -- >> SEEMS LIKE THE INITIAL, YOU KNOW, REQUEST SHOULD BE HANDLED DIFFERENTLY THAN IF WE'RE AMENDING IT SLIGHTLY. IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME QUEUE. >> YOU WOULD THINK. >> SOMEONE SHOULD ASK TCEQ. >> I WONDER IF WE COULD ASK THEM, WE'RE GOING TO SUBMIT THIS -- >> WE ALREADY HAVE. WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THEM. WE'VE ALREADY MADE THAT REQUEST. >> I HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE ALL OVER ME, CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME AN ANSWER BACK LIKE THIS YEAR? >> THANK YOU FOR TRYING. >> THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, WE ARE 99% COMPLETE WITH THE PROJECT, IN TERMS OF THE CLOSEOUT DOCUMENTS AND WALK THROUGH AND PUNCH LIST. WE'RE ANTICIPATING THAT WE WILL BRING THIS BACK FOR ACCEPTANCE IN JULY. FOR THE ADAM ORGAIN RESTROOM, THIS PROJECT IS ON THE AT-RISK FOR DISCUSSIONS. BUT THE PROJECT IS STILL IN CONSTRUCTION AND WE HAVE COMPONENTS THAT DO NEED TO BE COLLABORATED WITH THE CONTRACTOR. >> FIGURE OUT HOW TO BUILD A WALL STRAIGHT OR IS IT STILL -- ARE THESE THE GUYS WHO HAD THE WALL WHERE IT WASN'T PLUM AND IT WAS LEANING? DID THEY FIGURE THAT OUT YET? >> WE'LL GET TO THE AT-RISK PART. >> I CAN WAIT. >> DISC GOLF IS STILL ON HOLD UNTIL WE STAFF UP. HUTTO LAKE PARK TRAIL IS PENDING FUNDING. >> YOU SAID DISC GOLF COURSE IS ON HOLD? >> YES. AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE HAD STAFF REDUCTIONS AND WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO ADD ON MORE CAPITAL PROJECTS SO WE PUT THIS ONE ON HOLD. >> THIS IS A DIFFERENT GOLF COURSE? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> OKAY. WAIT. I WENT TO ONE TODAY. HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? >> THEY JUST OPENED ONE UP O OFF -- SCHMITT. THEY'RE DOING SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, INCLUDING PICKLEBALL COURT AND DISC GOLF. >> THEY CAN USE THAT ONE UNTIL WE DO OURS. HUTTO LAKE PARK PLAYGROUND. FOR THIS PROJECT, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, SO WHEN THE PROJECT, WE CAME FOR A CHANGE ORDER TO UPDATE THE DESIGN SCHEDULE AND GET ON TRACK FOR BIDDING, THERE WAS A TWO-WEEK DIFFERENCE OF WHEN THE PROJECT WENT OUT FOR BID AND WHEN WE OPENED BIDS. THEY AWARDED THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT, THERE WAS A TWO-WEEK -- BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HIT -- THERE WAS AN EXTRA WEEK IN THE MONTH OF MAY. AND SO WE HAD TO COME TO THE JUNE COUNCIL MEETING. HOLD ON. LET ME READ MY NOTES. WE HAD ANTICIPATED TO RETURN AND [01:15:05] AWARD THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT MAY 7TH. BUT BECAUSE WE WERE NOT ABLE TO AWARD IT ON THAT DATE, THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE SHOWED THAT WE WERE GOING TO AWARD MAY -- OR APRIL 30TH. WE CAME TO THE MAY 7TH COUNCIL AGENDA. AND THEN THE MEETING OCCURRED THE FOLLOWING WEEK. SO THAT GAVE IT A TWO-WEEK DELAY. AND SO THE CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE SHOWED AN AUGUST -- LIKE EARLY AUGUST DATE TO COMPLETE THE PARK AND PLAYGROUND INSTALLATION. SO YOU'LL JUST SEE A TWO-WEEK DIFFERENCE IN THERE. SO INSTEAD OF AUGUST 8TH, IT WILL BE AUGUST 16TH OR SOMEWHERE IN THERE, LATER. >> IS THAT AT-RISK AS WELL? >> IT'S NOT ON AT-RISK. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT THE EXPECTATION IS NOT THE SAME AS WHAT THAT CHANGE ORDER SCHEDULE THAT WAS IN THERE. BECAUSE THE DESIGN CONSULTANT WAS TRYING TO ANTICIPATE, IF WE GO TO BIDDING, WE AWARD THE CONTRACT, THEN WE'LL BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION NOT KNOWING THAT CITY COUNCIL ONLY TWO THURSDAYS IN THE MONTH. WE HAD AN EXTRA THURSDAY, SO THAT ADDED ANOTHER TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE CONTRACTOR COULD GET STARTED. FOR OUR FACILITIES PROJECTS, THE JUSTICE CENTER. THIS PROJECT, THANK YOU. WE ARE ENTERTAINING CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT-RISK. THE PROJECT IS OUT FOR THE SOLICITATION. IT IS A TWO-STEP PROCESS WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT-RISK, WE'RE ASKING QUALIFICATIONS OF MULTIPLE CONTRACTORS AND BASED ON THAT REVIEW, THEN WE WILL SEND THE PACKAGE OF THE DESIGN DETAILS TO THE CONTRACTORS THAT MEET THAT FIRST STEP OF REVIEW. AND THEN WE'RE ANTICIPATING THE JULY 16TH FOR AWARD OF A CMAR FOR THIS PROJECT. FOR DRAINAGE PROJECTS, WE HAVE LEGENDS OF HUTTO. THE CONTRACTOR IS CONTINUING TO WORK. THIS PROJECT, IT'S A DRAINAGE PROJECT. THE TEMPORARY FENCING HAD BEEN INSTALLED. THE PERMANENT FENCING WILL BE INSTALLED PER THE CHANGE ORDER THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS. THE PROJECT IS VERY WEATHER DEPENDENT, SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE WEATHER, WHICH THE RAIN DELAYS. THE WATER IS GOING INTO THE SAME CHANNEL AS THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON. HAVE ONE SEGMENT TWO FOR COUNTY ROAD 137. THIS PROJECT HAS REACHED OUT AND THEY'VE SENT NOTICES FOR, THEY WILL BE RECONSTRUCTING DRIVE WAYS AND CITY OF HUTTO DOES HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT IS WITHIN THE SEGMENT 2. WE HAVE RECEIVED THAT LETTER. WE ARE AWARE THEY WILL BE RECONSTRUCTING THE DRIVEWAYS AS WELL AS PROVIDING CONTINUED ACCESS TO THE PARCEL FOR THE CITY. SO NO IMPACT. >> WHICH PARCEL? I'M GLAD THAT'S ON THERE NOW. BECAUSE I WANT TO SAY DOWN THERE BY MADELINE'S, IS THAT WHERE THERE'S AN OVERPASS? OR SOMETHING'S MESSED UP, THEY WERE TELLING ME. THE ACCESS, WHERE THE BRIDGE COMES IN? DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT I'M TALK ABOUT? >> I JUST DROVE THAT -- >> YOU GOTTA -- >> I'M NOT CLOSE ENOUGH? >> I GOTCHA, OKAY. I WAS LIKE, HE'S REALLY FAR AWAY. >> I DROVE THAT SEGMENT LAST WEEK. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALK ABOUT IS WHERE SEGMENT 2 IS COMING INTO -- SLIGHTLY RAISED. BUT THEN IT CROSSES 1660 AND KIND OF PICKS UP. THEY HAVEN'T REALLY ADDRESSED HOW THAT EXCHANGE IS GONNA LOOK. AS FAR AS LIKE THE DRIVEWAY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S AFFECTED, I'M NOT SURE WHICH ONE THAT IS. PATRICIA WILL HAVE TO FILL ME [01:20:01] IN. WE ONLY HAVE FROM MADELINE -- GOING TO FIX THAT TRANSITION OR IS IT JUST -- SOMETIMES THE COUNTY GETS DONE DOING SOMETHING, THEY SAY THEY'RE DONE. >> YEAH, NO. THIS OBVIOUSLY IS NOT DONE. YOU CAN TELL IT'S NOT DONE. >> YOU SAY THAT, BUT -- >> WELL, YEAH. IT'S LIKE A FOUR-FOOT DIFFERENCE IN ELEVATION. >> YEAH, OKAY. >> IT CAN'T BE DONE. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DONE. >> SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO STUFF AND GO, WELL THE REST OF IT'S ON YOU GUYS. >> DUKES OF HAZARD RAMP ON EACH SIDE BASICALLY. >> THEY DID BUILD THE 137 INTERCHANGE AND BUILT IT RIGHT ON TOP OF THE HILL TO THE STOP SIGN WHERE EVERYBODY THAT COMES OUT HAS A BLIND SPOT. NOW WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, COME BACK, IMPROVE IT AND SIGNALIZE IT. THAT'S ONE OF THEM INSTANCES WHERE I THOUGHT OBVIOUSLY YOU WOULD NEVER PUT A STOP SIGN ON THE TOP OF A HILL WHERE YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR LIFE AT RISK TO USE IT. SURE ENOUGH, IT HAPPENED. >> I'LL COORDINATE WITH WILLIAMSON COUNTY. BUT THE DRIVEWAY IS JUST THE TREATMENT PLANT THAT THEY SENT US NOTICE ON. NOW I'LL MOVE TO THE AT-RISK. SO FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE AT-RISK, WE HAVE SOME OF OUR CONTRACTORS ARE ON VIRTUAL. >> HIS PROJECT, WE KNOW IT'S AT-RISK, RIGHT? THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DUE BACK IN '25 I THINK? OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT BILL? >> THE CONTRACTOR THAT WAS ON WASN'T THAT CONTRACTOR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> THE ONE THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT INTERRUPTED, THAT'S WHO THAT WAS. >> I THOUGHT HE SAID 2025. >> THEIR PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE FINISHED IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF '25. >> OH, CORRECT, YES. >> JUST A SIMPLE SIGNAL INSTALLED MOST PEOPLE GET DONE IN FOUR, FIVE MONTHS. THIS ONE'S TAKEN LIKE 18. I GUESS HE'S GONNA EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED. >> YES. >> OR GONNA TRY. >> WE HAVEN'T CALLED ON YOU IN A SECOND. >> I'M STARTING WITH THE ED SCHMITT PROJECT, THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT. SO FOR THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, THE PROJECT, WE ANTICIPATED SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WAS GOING TO BE FEBRUARY 1ST. THERE IS HAND RAIL THAT WAS NECESSARY TO INSTALL. THE HAND RAIL HAS BEEN INSTALLED AND COMPLETED. THEY HAD TO WAIT FOR THE VENDOR ON THAT PROJECT. SO THAT CAUSED SOME DELAY. AND WITH THAT, IN ORDER TO CLOSE OUT THE PROJECT, WE STILL NEED TO PROCESS A CHANGE ORDER, NEGOTIATE WITH THE CONTRACTOR, BUT WE'RE AT A DISPUTED PROCESS. WE'RE AT AN IMPASSE. WE'VE REQUESTED THE CONTRACTOR, THERE'S SOME ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE DEDUCTED IN THIS CHANGE ORDER, BUT, AGAIN, ALL OF THIS STILL REMAINS OUTSTANDING. WE HAVE NOT REACHED CONSENSUS, SO WE'LL BE SENDING OUT THE CITY OF HUTTO, THIS IS OUR FINAL OFFER. THIS IS WHAT WE WILL ACCEPT. WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE CONTRACTOR. WE'VE DETAILED WHAT WE WOULD ACCEPT. SO WE'RE GONNA SEND OUT THAT FINAL RECONCILIATION REQUEST FOR THAT CHANGE ORDER TO INCLUDE ONLY THAT. AND HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES POSSIBLE, AND ANY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS, IF THEY COULD JUST CONTACT OUR LEGAL TEAM. >> ARE THEY HERE TONIGHT? >> YEP. >> OKAY. SURELY THEY HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES. THEY SAID THEY WOULD GET DONE IN 60 DAYS. I DRIVE BY THERE AT MINIMUM TWICE A DAY, AND THEY WEREN'T STARTING WORK BEFORE MAYBE 8:00, 8:30, AND THEY WERE WELL DONE BEFORE 5:00. IT WASN'T EVEN -- WHEN THEY DID WORK, THERE WERE LIKE THREE GUYS. SO I'M DRIVING BY. THAT'S WHY IMMEDIATELY I TOLD JAMES, I'VE GOT THIS ON MY CALENDAR, PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND GET READY. THERE'S NO WAY IN HECK THEY CAN BUILD THAT MUCH SIDEWALK IN 60 DAYS WITH THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE. IT WASN'T UNTIL WE GAVE THEM NOTICE OF DEFAULT, THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS LIKE 100 PEOPLE WORKING. THERE'S TRUCKS EVERYWHERE. SO FOR THEM TO SAY THEY MAYBE DON'T HAVE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES I THINK IS CRAZY, BECAUSE CLEARLY WE'RE IN JUNE NOW ON A PROJECT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE IN FEBRUARY. I DON'T WANT THEM TO PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS, BUT IF THEY BID ON THAT STUFF AND THEY WIN THE PROJECT BASED ON THEIR BID, WHY IS IT OUR FAULT THAT THEY HAVE A BAD ESTIMATOR OR WHATEVER? THEY WERE LOW ON PEOPLE, I DON'T [01:25:03] KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE WAS. NOT THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR A VOTE, BUT IF WE HAVE TO SEND THEM TO LEGAL, SOMEONE EVENTUALLY HAS TO START PAYING BECAUSE TAXPAYERS ARE GETTING TIRED. EVERY TIME THEY HAVE A SCREWUP, THEY WANT A CHANGE ORDER. WHEN THEY SCREW UP THEY WANT US TO -- >> EAT IT. >> EAT IT. AND WE'LL LOOK THE OTHER WAY, AND SORRY. I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M ALWAYS THIS -- >> HAVE WE ISSUED A FINAL RESPONSE DEADLINE? >> WE REQUESTED A CHANGE ORDER FROM THEM AFTER WE SAT AND MET WITH THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND THE CHANGE OVER, THE REVISIONS, ARE STILL NOT ACCURATE. >> WE HAVE NOT ISSUED A FINAL RESPONSE? >> NO. WE ARE GOING TO ISSUE THAT, AS WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH LEGAL TO REVIEW THAT LETTER. >> AND IS THAT JUST A SEND IT AND WE ARE DONE SCREWING WITH THEM? >> IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE THE COUNCIL BACKING IT UP. >> YOU GUYS ARE BURNING ALL THIS TIME. >> WE ARE ACTUALLY CUTTING-- ONCE WE GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT COMPLETED THE ISSUE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, SO WE ARE SETTING UP TO FINISH THAT PART OF THE PROJECT. >> YEAH, BACK IN MY MIND, IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON WORKING ON THIS, FOR WORTHEN AND HOUR, THAT'S TIME THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SPENT AND THE PROJECT COULD HAVE BEEN DROPPED. BUT WE ARE TOO BUSY SCREWING AROUND, AND WE CAN GET THE JOB DONE. PLUS THE COST. ARE HITTING THEM WITH THAT COST? [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THANK YOU. >> NOW I WILL MOVE TO INNO INNOVATION, AND THIS IS THE CONTRACTOR THAT IS ON. THE ORIGINAL SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE WAS AUGUST 26, 2025 ADJUSTED THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE WITHIN TEN AMENDED CONTRACT FOR APRIL 7 7TH. THE CONTRACTOR DID MEET THE APRIL 7TH DATE, BUT WE STILL REMAIN-- WHICH MAKES US AT RISK TO CLOSE IT OUT, DISPUTING AND-- IN DISAGREEMENT, REGARDING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE DELAYS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH PROCUREMENT OF THE MATERIALS, AND WE HAVE REACHED AN IMPASSE WITH THE CONTRACTOR, AND WE ARE SENDING-- OR ANTICIPATE SENDING OUR FINAL RECONCILIATION REQUEST AND LIQUIDATED DAMAGES TO THE CONTRACTORS FOR THE OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS AND MATERIALS. >> DO YOU GUYS WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM? >> OKAY. ARE YOU READY? >> YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. HOW IS IT GOING? >> WE WILL FIND OUT WHEN YOU TELL US WHAT THE DEAL IS, I GUESS. >> FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING BEFORE. I DO NOT MEAN TO TO BE STRESSFUL TO THIS COUNCIL. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OUR COMPANY HAS BEEN PROACTIVE REGARDING COMMUNICATION. I BELIEVE THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WHEN I SAY THE VERY BEGINNING, SINCE THE FIRST MEETING, WE RAISED OUR HAND REGARDING LEAD SIGNS OF OUR MATERIALS. MAINLY THE STEEL POLES, WHICH AT THIS MOMENT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 20 TO 24 WEEKS OF LEAD TIME FOR THOSE POLES. THAT IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE AGENDA THAT IS IN RECORD AND WE HAVE ALL THE ACCOMMODATIONS IN PLACE FOR THAT. IT IS TRUE THAT WE HAVE A SPECIAL COMMISSION ON THE SPECS, ON THOSE 150 DAYS THAT WE HAVE, 75 WERE ACTUALLY ACCRUED FOR THAT, AND WITH THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 20 WEEKS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ALMOST 150 DAYS ALREADY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE A COUPLE INCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED DURING THE PROJECT. DESIGNS WERE NOT 100% ACCURATE REGARDING ECOLOGICAL SERVICE, WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENCES ON OTHER ITEMS. I CAN READ THEM TO YOU. I'M SURE YOU ALREADY HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY I WANT TO PUT A NOTE [01:30:05] ON THE COMMENTS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BEFORE. WE ACTUALLY FINISH THIS PROJECT MAY SEVENTH. WE FINISHED MAY SEVENTH, AND THAT WAS AFTER THE 30 DAY PERIOD OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL. FROM THERE, I THINK WE HAD THE REQUEST OF THE CHANGEOVER. WE HAD A COUPLE MEETINGS. THE LAST ONE WAS MAY 19TH, I THINK. THAT MEETING WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF JUST TALKING ABOUT ADMINISTRATION CLOSE OUT, BUT IT WAS TWO WEEKS BEFORE WE CENTER FINAL PROPOSAL FOR THE CHANGEOVER IS REGARDING THE MATERIAL FOR THE EXTRA WORK THAT WAS NOT COMPUTED IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. AND WE NEVER RECEIVED THE... WE SAT DOWN TO NEGOTIATE, BUT-- WE WERE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND NEGOTIATE, BUT WE WERE ONCE A.M. KIND OF BLINDSIDED, AND WE WERE TOLD TO BE HERE TODAY AT EIGHT IN THE MORNING. WE ARE HERE WITH GOOD FAITH AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE AT LEAST DESERVE A CONVERSATION, A CONSIDERATION. AND IF NOT, WE ALWAYS HAVE THE LEGAL WAYS OF ARBITRATION, OR WHATEVER IT IS CALLED AFTER THAT. WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE PLENTY OF WORK TO DO. AND WE WANT TO COME HERE IN A PRAGMATIC WAY. I JUST WANT TO CLOSE OUT THIS PROJECT, AND IF POSSIBLE HAVE SOMEBODY WITH THE ABILITY TO CHECK OUR DOCUMENTATION, WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR, AND IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION OR MEETING, THEN WE ARE OPEN TO THAT AS WELL. >> JIM MORRIS HERE. I DID NOT COME UNTIL-- TO COUNCIL TILL JUNE. BUT I DIDN'T COME OUT UNTIL MARCH FOR COMPLETION, AND THEN WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL SCHOOL IS OUT. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO INTERRUPT THIS INTERSECTION WHICH IS NOWHERE NEAR SCHOOL, SO WE GET THIS DONE IN THE SUMMER. THE SUMMER AROUND JULY OR AUGUST, 2025. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S 22, 24 WEEKS LEAD TIME ON MATERIALS AND YOU HAVE BEEN ON A PROJECT IN MARCH TO BE DONE IN THE SUMMER, BUT YOU ARE NOW SAYING THERE'S 24 WEEK LEADS. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT AT ALL. MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER OR CITY STAFF CAN EXPLAIN THAT. I WAS OUT THERE MANY, MANY TIMES AT THAT INTERSECTION. IT'S NOT VERY FAR FROM MY HOUSE. I WAS TOLD BY PEOPLE ON SITE THAT NO OVERTIME WAS BEING ALLOWED. PEOPLE WERE COMING IN FROM SAN ANTONIO TO WORK HERE IN HUTTO. THERE WEREN'T REALLY CREWS OUT THERE AT ALL. I DO HAVE A LITTLE ENGINEERING BACKGROUND. I DID SEE SOME SCHEMATIC CHANGE PROBLEMS THAT ONE PERSON OUT THERE SHARED WITH ME. THIS HAD TO DO WITH IT BEING A FOUR LAMP OR THREE LAMP SIGNAL FOR LEFT TURN LANES. SO THOSE ARE MINOR THINGS. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS THIS CAN GO FROM A THREE TO FOUR MONTH TO NOW 18 MONTHS. SO MAYBE I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION TO STAFF, I'VE HEARD FROM A CONTRACTOR, BUT CAN WE SUBSTANTIATE SOME OF THESE CLAIMS THAT ARE BEING SAID BY THE CONTRACTOR, OR SUBSTANTIATE SOME OF MY CLAIMS THAT I SAY I AM HEARING? >> SO DO I NEED TO SAY MY NAME AGAIN? SO US-- A REQUEST ONCE SUBMITTED FOR THE PROCUREMENT OF THE MAST ARMS, THE LONG LEAD. THE REQUEST FOR THE NUMBER OF DAYS WAS SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER THEN-- SO WE TOOK THE DAYS THAT THEY REQUESTED AND SUBTRACTED OUT THE 175 DAYS THAT WE ALLOWED IN THE CONTRACT, AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR SUBSTANTIALLY MORE DAYS. SO WE NOTED THAT ALIKE NOR BE BELCO, THE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING WAS MAY 2029TH OF 2025. BUT THE ORDER FOR THE MATERIAL WAS NOT PLACED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE APPROVAL. THERE WAS A DELAY THERE. SO THAT TIME FRAME DID ADD TO-- [01:35:02] ON THE BACK END, WHEN THEY WOULD RECEIVE THEM, BUT THAT IS NOT OF THE OPINION OF THE CITY. >> WAS THE DELAY FROM THE CONTRACT ORDERING MATERIALS, OR THE CITY OF HUTTO NOT ORDERING MATERIALS. IT SEEMS LIKE THE CONTRACTOR ORDERS MATERIAL. >> THE CONTRACTOR. >> BUT THERE IS A DELAY INCURRED ON THE CONTRACTOR. >> SORRY, CAN I GIVE A RESPONSE TO THAT? >> YOU HAVE ALREADY CUT IN. SO GO AHEAD TO. >> I AM SORRY ABOUT THAT. >> IT'S BETTER IF YOU ARE HERE IN PERSON, THEN WE DON'T HAVE THIS ISSUE. BUT IT'S OKAY. >> AGAIN, IT'S BEEN SHORT NOTICE. WE WERE HERE TODAY AT EIGHT IN THE MORNING. BUT WE COULD NOT MAKE IT TO BE IN PERSON. I AM SORRY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT ELECNOR BELCO ELECTRIC WORKED FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE PREFER, AND I THINK IT'S COMMON SENSE TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION BEFORE ACTUALLY BREAKING GROUND. THAT BEING SAID, WE HAD TO WAIT 34 DAYS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THEM SHOWING THE CONTRACT TO GET A RESPONSE FROM THE CITY TO ACTUALLY GET A PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING. APART FROM THAT, AS YOU KNOW, THE LEAD TIMES OF THE MATERIAL ARE LARGE, AND WE HAVE A POLICY, AND I BELIEVE IT MAKES TOTAL SENSE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE CITY APPROVED WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BUY BEFORE ACTUALLY ORDERING THE MATERIAL. IF WE DO IT THE OTHER WAY AND AS SOON AS WE GET THE MATERIAL CONTRACT, WE ORDER THE MATERIAL, WE MAY INCUR EVEN FURTHER DELAYS. I BELIEVE WE WERE PRETTY QUICK AFTER THE PRECONSTRUCTION MEETING, ON..., WHICH IS A DATA SHEET OF INFORMATION THAT WE ARE PROCURING FOR THE CITY. AND WE PRETTY MUCH GOT SOME DELAYS ON THAT APPROVAL. AS SOON AS WE GET THIS WE HAVE ONE OR TWO DAYS FROM THAT APPROVAL OF IT TO SEND THE ORDER TO OUR VENDOR. AS I SAY, THE CONTRACT HAS A-- SPECIAL SPECS. SPECIAL PERMISSION ZERO ZERO, AND IT STATES THAT IT ACCOUNTS FOR 75 DAYS FOR LEAD TIME IN PROCUREMENT NOTARIAL. AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO BELIEVE YOU CAN GO OUT THERE AND TALK TO ANY VENDOR. IT COULD BE MANUFACTURERS OR ANY OTHERS IN THE MARKET, AND YOU CAN ASK FOR THE LEAD TIME. YOU MAYBE SURPRISED WHEN YOU HAVE AN ANSWER. APART FROM NOT, AGAIN, THERE WAS REVISIONS IN THE DESIGN, THERE WAS A PROBLEM IN RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT THE CITY HAD IN PLACE WHEN WE STARTED THE PROJECT. AND WE CAN GO DOWN TO THE CITY ONE. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS DELAY IS WORTH IT. AS I SAY YOU HAVE PLENTY OF WORK TO DO AND BIGGER AND MORE IMPORTANT PROJECTS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION CLOSER. I CAN GIVE YOU ONE, LONG FEEDBACK, AND WE CAN GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION IN THE BACK-AND-FORTH WE HAVE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION DEPARTMENT. BUT ONCE AGAIN WE ARE TRYING TO BE HERE COLLABORATIVE AND WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO CLOSING THIS OUT AND GETTING TO AN AGREEMENT. >> IF YOU WANT TO COLLABORATE, YOU HAVE YET TO TELL US WHERE YOU GUYS SCREWED UP. YOU KEEP TELLING US WHERE WE MESSED UP AND WE DID THIS AND WE DID NOT HAVE THIS. AND YOU BID ON A PROJECT IN MARCH. AND LESS THIS IS YOUR FIRST PROJECT YOU HAVE EVER DONE, IF YOU BID ON A PROJECT IN MARCH, MARCH OF 25, FOR THE RECORD, HOW CAN YOU BE 13 TO 14 MONTHS LATER TALKING ABOUT SIGNAL POLES, WHICH IS A CITY MANAGEMENT TESTS, I HAPPEN TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SIGNAL POLES, AND IT DOESN'T TAKE 20 WEEKS IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. AND I KNOW OF ANOTHER PROJECT I SHARED WITH THE CITY MANAGER, MUCH BIGGER THAN THIS PROJECT. AND THE WHOLE THING WAS COMPLETELY BUILT. THE WHOLE INTERSECTION COMPLETELY REDONE. WERE TALKING ADDING RIGHT TURN LANES, WERE TALKING COMPLETELY-- A COMPLETE REDO OF THE ENTIRE INTERSECTION ALL GOT DONE BEFORE YOU GUYS GOT THE FIRST PULL UP. WHEN YOU STARTED IT. IF YOU WANT TO BE COLLABORATIVE, AS I WOULD SUGGEST, I DON'T THINK MANY OF US HAVE PATIENCE FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK YOU NEED TO DISCUSS WHAT YOU GUYS COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. [01:40:01] YOU ALL HAVE MORE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND YOU ARE THE PROFESSIONALS. YOU SHOULD KNOW HOW TO ORDER THE HOLES BACK AND GET THAT DONE. AND HOW IT'S A YEAR LATER AND YOU STILL DON'T HAVE IT DONE ALL THE WAY AND CLOSED OUT, WHATEVER DETAILS LEFT, I THINK IT IS REMARKABLE THAT YOU ARE SAYING ANYTHING. I WOULD HAVE SAID NOTHING. IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER FOR YOU. I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S MY OPINION. BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ANYWAYS. IT ALWAYS HELPS. ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING FOR THIS ITEM? I GUESS DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. AT LEAST IT IS WORKING. RIGHT? >> YES. >> IT IS STILL WORKING. >> THEY CAN DROP THE LINE. BUT THANK YOU. >> WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR AN ANSWER ON THESE ORDERS FOR A MONTH RIGHT NOW. WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FROM YOUR POINT OF VIEW, OR FROM YOUR POSITION. >> SO TO THAT POINT, WE-- THE CHANGE ORDER THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AGAIN IS NOT WHAT THE CITY ANTICIPATED, AND WE COMMUNICATED THE NUMBER OF DAYS WE WOULD AGREE TO. AND IT IS NOT WHAT THE CHANGE ORDER BEST PROPOSES. >> WE WILL NOT GET INTO A BACK AND FORTH, WE WILL JUST ADVISE STAFF TO BRING THIS BACK TO HAVE IT DONE AND WE CAN APPROVE IT AS A CITY COUNCIL AND SEND IT TO YOU. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GIVE A TO YOUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND FIGURE IT OUT. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK-AND-FORTH HERE. >> YES, THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THE PARK IMPROVEMENT ORIGINAL COMPLETION DATE WAS DECEMBER 16TH. THE REVISED WITH MULTIPLE CHANGE ORDERS WAS MAY 29TH. THE CONTRACTOR HAS NOT MET THAT DATE AND TOMORROW WE ANTICIPATE TO SEND A NOTICE OF NONCOMPLETION TO THE CONTRACTOR AS WE HAVE IN THE CHANGE ORDERS WE'VE ADDED 83 DAYS AND INCREASED THE CONTINGENCY BY 13,764. SO THE PROJECT IS PAST SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION. AND WE COMMUNICATED IN THE MAY 22ND AT RISK REPORT THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS SUBMITTED A LATE CLAIM FOR COMPONENT OF BASE MATERIAL THAT THE SUBCONTRACTOR HAS COMMUNICATED THROUGH THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, IN THIS CASE CMR, AND HAD ALLEGED THAT THOSE DELAYS WHERE PRIOR TO THE PROJECT. SO AT THIS TIME, THE CITY TEAM, WE ARE ANTICIPATING TO MEET WITH THE CONTRACTOR TOMORROW. AND HERE THEIR DISCUSSIONS ON THE FINAL-- WHAT WOULD BE THE FINAL CHANGE ORDER TO COMPLETE THIS PROJECT AND OPEN THE PARK. AND IF WE DON'T REACH AGREEMENT THEN WE WILL SEEK LEGAL COUNCIL AND SEND A NOTICE TO THE CONTRACTOR. BUT WE ARE WAITING FOR THE ADDITIONAL DETERMINATION ON A PATH FORWARD ON WHY WE ARE AT THIS POINT AND THAT BASE MATERIAL WAS STILL ISSUED. >> I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING, BUT WE HAVE NOT RELEASED ANY OF THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS? I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO RELEASE SOME OF THEM AND CORDON OFF PART OF THE PARK SO THEY HAVE SOME SOFT OPENING? >> WE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE CONTRACTOR. BACK IN APRIL. AND THE DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A COMPONENT THAT YOU COULD OPEN A PORTION OF THE PARK BUT IT WOULD STILL BE A RISK TO THE CONTRACTOR TO TRY TO FENCE OFF OR HOLD OFF BECAUSE THE PARKING LOT IS A LARGE COMPONENT THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED, AND THE PARKING LOT IS WHERE THE VISITORS WOULD. [01:45:06] >> IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY RISK. I UNDERSTAND. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE FOR FOR THIS PROJECT. SO WE JUST WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE DID NOT REACH THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE FOR THE LAST CHANGE ORDER MAY 21ST. BUT THE CHANGE ORDER THAT WE-- THE LAST CHANGE ORDER WAS ON MAY 21ST THAT WE COMPLETED ON MAY 29TH. SO THE RESTROOM FOR THIS PROJECT I BELIEVE THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE FOR THIS ONE. BUT THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE WAS JANUARY 29TH, WE HAVE AN UNRESOLVED STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCY. WE SENT A NOTICE FOR REMEDIATION MAY 21ST. AND WE HAVE JUST GONE BACK AND FORTH AND EAT-- AN EMAIL DISCUSSION AND VERBAL. SO ON THIS ONE THE CITY STAFF, THE CONTRACTOR SUBMITTED SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR I GUESS REMEDIATING THE ISSUES THAT ARE IN THE PUNCH LIST FOR THIS AND THE CITY TEAM IS GOING TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND REVIEW THEIR PROPOSAL OF HOW THEY BELIEVE TO A SOLUTION, AND WE ARE GOING TO SEND THEM BACK A NOTICE BY JUNE 15TH. ON WHETHER OR NOT WHAT THEY ARE PROPOSING WILL BE SUFFICIENT TO ACCEPT THIS STRUCTURE. >> YOU SAID THEY ARE HERE? THEY ARE ONLINE AS WELL? SORRY. THEY ARE ONLINE. >> ARE YOU THERE? >> IT WOULD BE MICROTECH. >> WE ARE HERE. >> CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE WALLS DID NOT GO UP STRAIGHT? >> YES. WE HAD SOME ISSUES. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. WE DID. >> HOLD ON. SORRY. WE ARE SHORT ON TIME AND PATIENCE. SO THE WALLS DID NOT GO UP STRAIGHT, AND YOU GUYS JUST HAVE TO FIX IT, IN MY MIND. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ARGUMENT IS, BUT IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A BUILDING. IT'S PRETTY SMALL. SO IT'S AMAZING WE HAVE THIS ISSUE, AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT DONE BY JANUARY. WE ARE HERE IN JUNE. FIVE MONTHS LATER. IF I WAS YOU I WOULD JUST FIX IT, BUILD THE THINGS STRAIGHT AND BUILD IT IN A MANNER THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME BY AND GO, WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING? WHY DID THEY BUILD THIS BATHROOM LIKE THIS. EVERY TIME I GO IN HERE-- IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THESE ARE MARKETABLE THINGS. YOU ARE FIVE MONTHS BEHIND. YOU CANNOT BUILD A WALL STRAIGHT AND THERE IS AN ARGUMENT YOU'RE HAVING WITH STAFF. I'M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS. >> EXCUSE ME, MY NAME IS MICHAEL-- I WILL SPEAK FIRST, AND THEN IF THEY'D LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING. >> ARE YOU GUYS TOGETHER ARGUING, OR ARE YOU ON THE SAME TEAM? >> NO. I WILL SPEAK FIRST. I JUST DID NOT UNMUTE MYSELF QUICK ENOUGH. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, WE ARE NOT ARGUING ANY POINT AS FAR AS CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN EACH OTHER, IN PERSON OR THROUGH EMAIL. THAT IS NOT HOW WE WANT TO BE PROFESSIONAL WITH PATRICIA OR TODD, OR ANY OF THE FOLKS THERE AT THE CITY. IN FACT, I THINK THERE WAS ONLY ONE ARGUMENT THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN US AND THE CITY AND THAT HAD TO DO WITH TODD ON SITE, WITH RICARDO. WHICH HE CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT. BUT THAT'S NOT HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED FORWARD. SO I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT. MS. PATRICIA DID SUBMIT A CORRECTIVE ACTION NOTICE TO US. WE HAD BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS FOR A LONG TIME REGARDING ANY ISSUES THEY HAD BROUGHT UP, WHETHER THAT'S VISUAL OR NOT VISUAL. SO EVERYTHING IS COMPLETE. THE ISSUE THAT WE BELIEVE THAT [01:50:04] PATRICIA HAS PRESENTED TO US FORMALLY IS THE-- WHAT IS LABELED AS STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCIES. AND SO WHAT YOU ARE CITING AS FAR AS THIS ISSUE IS I GUESS A PART OF THAT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE IS NO INSPECTION FROM A THIRD PARTY OR ANY OTHER INSPECTOR THERE AT THE CITY OF HUTTO, INCLUDING EVEN THE INSPECTION FOR THE SITING AND STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCY THAT WOULD COMPROMISE ANY KIND OF STRENGTH OR STABILITY OR STRUCTURAL PERFORMANCE OF THE WALL SYSTEM. AS TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, EVERYTHING IS WORKING AS INTENDED WORK OTHER THAN ONE WALL THAT IS A QUARTER-INCH OFF PLUM, WHICH THE STANDARD DOES ALLOW UP TO I BELIEVE IT'S THREE EIGHTHS OR A HALF INCH. ONE WALL IS A BIT MORE THAN THAT, WHICH IS ALLOWED. HOWEVER THERE HAS BEEN NO INDICATION THAT IT'S COMPROMISED IN THE STRUCTURE IN ANY MANNER. SO WHAT WE ARE DISPUTING, AND IN FACT THE ENTIRE PROCESS OF THE PROJECT, ANY ISSUE THAT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO US WE HAVE NOT DISPUTED, WE'VE NOT ARGUED. WE ACCEPT WHAT THE CUSTOMER IS CALLING OUT TO US. IT IS OUR GOAL TO PRESENT AN ACCEPTABLE PRODUCT TO THE CITY OF HUTTO AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. YOU GUYS HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PARK THERE. SO WE WANT TO BE COMPLACENT WITH THAT. OUR ONLY STANDOFF IS THE CALLING FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING. OTHER THAN THAT-- THE ESTHETIC WORK-- OTHER THAN THE ESTHETIC WORKMANSHIP WHICH IS CITED WITHIN THE CURRENT-- CORRECTIVE ACTION NOTICE THAT WAS SUBMITTED, WHICH CALLS OUT THE POOR WORKMANSHIP OF THE WHOLE BLOCK, IS ISOLATED-- THE MAJORITY IS ISOLATED TO THE INTERIOR OF THE WALLS. AND WE HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO MAINTAIN TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT WITHIN THE DESIGN ASPECT, SO MAINTAINING THAT INTERIOR FACE. AND IT WAS CALLED OUT TO US THAT THE MORTAR JOINTS WERE NOT ACCEPTABLE. NOT ON A STRUCTURAL PERFORMANCE, BUT RATHER A VISUAL SIDE. SO AS WE WERE CONTINUING THE REST OF THE PORTIONS OF THE PROJECT WE WOULD PUT EFFORT INTO MAINTAINING THE MOTOR-- MORTAR JOINTS. BUT STONE AND BLOCKS ARE NOT FORGIVING. SO WE WERE ESSENTIALLY JUST WORKING WITH A ROTTEN EGG AS FAR AS THE MOTOR-- MORTAR JOINTS. WE HAVE NOT OFFICIALLY SUBMITTED ANY KIND OF CHANGE ORDER TO CHANGE THE FACADE INSIDE. AND THERE HAS BEEN MEETINGS WHERE I PERSONALLY ATTENDED WITH THE REQUEST OF THE CITY, AND CONSULTANTS THAT THEY WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS SOLUTION, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE SITE SO WE CAN GET YOUR INPUT, UNFORTUNATELY WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET MUCH INPUT ON THAT. SO WHENEVER WE DID CALL FOR A MEETING IT WAS ALMOST A FORCED MEETING JUST TO GET EVERYBODY OUT THERE, THE PARKS DIRECTOR, TODD, AND THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME, WHO I CAN'T REMEMBER AT THE MOMENT. IT WAS THERE AND AGREED UPON, AND RFI FOR A CHANGE WHERE IT COULD BE FRP PANELS OR STUCCO OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS TO BEAUTIFY THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND OF COURSE THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE DOORFRAMES, WHICH PATRICIA HAD MENTIONED THAT THE RFI'S WE SUBMITTED WE CONSENT TO REPLACING THE DOORFRAMES AND DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE. BUT THE PLUMBING IS DONE, THE ELECTRICAL IS DONE, THE ROOF IS DONE, VEGETATION REMAINS, THE PARKING LOT IS DONE, EVERYTHING, IT'S ESSENTIALLY A COMPLETED BUILDING WITH ONE OUT OF PLUMB WALL AND WORKMANSHIP ON THE INTERIOR, AND A REPLACEMENT OF THE DOORFRAMES. SO I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LOT TO TAKE IN AS FAR AS WHAT THE CITY SUBMITTED AND WHAT WE HAVE RESPONDED WITH, BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR, WE ARE NOT LIKE THE OTHER GUYS. WE ARE NOT POINTING FINGERS HERE. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS AND WE WANT TO COMPLETE THAT TO ACCEPTANCE, AND [01:55:03] OUR MAIN REQUEST IS FOR THE CITY TO NOT PURSUE THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING. >> SO HE SAYING THAT THE BUILDING WHILE A LITTLE OUT OF PLUMB IS WELL WITHIN SOME TOLERATED VARIANCE? >> THAT'S WHAT HE IS COMMUNICATING. WE WILL REVIEW THE PROPOSAL. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED TEN ITEMS TO REVIEW THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED, AND THOSE ITEMS WILL TAKE NEXT WEEK TO REVIEW WITH THE ARCHITECT AND PROVIDE A RESPONSE BACK TO THEM BY THE 13TH. >> DO YOU AGREE THE DOORS NEED TO BE REPLACED? THE DOOR JAMS? >> THE DOORFRAMES, THE DOORS, YES. AND THAT'S IN THE RFI. >> NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. THIS IS DUE IN JANUARY. IS THERE ANYTHING HOLDING YOU UP FROM REPLACING WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED? IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO? NOW? OR LAST WEEK WE WHAT IS STOPPING YOU? >> YES. THE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THE CITY REGARDING THE DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING IS PREVENTING US FROM PUTTING MORE EFFORT IN TO THIS. IF THAT IS WHAT THE CITY CHOOSES TO DO. I THINK THE DOORFRAME WILL BE POINTLESS. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT. YOU DON'T WANT TO REPLACE THE DOORS AND THEN WE TEAR DOWN AND MAKE YOU START OVER. THAT'S FAIR. AND NOT UNREASONABLE. >> CAN I ASK A QUESTION? THERE IS A BIG VARIANCE BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY WAS REQUESTING, WHICH WAS DEMOLITION OF THIS PROJECT, AND WHAT IS BEING PROJECTED BY THE CONTRACTOR AS BEING NECESSARY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHY THERE WAS SUCH A VARIANCE BETWEEN WHAT THE MEDIATION SHOULD BE, OR THE REMEDY SHOULD BE? >> IN THE MAY 21ST LETTER FROM THE CITY, THERE ARE ESTHETICS AND OTHER INTERIOR COMPONENTS THAT WERE OUT OF DEFICIENCY OF WHAT WE DOCUMENTED IN PHOTOS AND COMMENTED IN THE SITE VISITS EARLIER IN THE MONTH OF MAY. AND THE PLUMPNESS ON THE SIDE, THE ARCHITECT, AS WELL AS THE INSPECTOR, THERE IS A DISCREPANCY OF THE MEASUREMENT THAT WE MEASURE WAS UP TO POSSIBLY 2 FEET, NOT JUST A QUARTER OF AN INCH. AND 2 FEET IS SUBSTANTIALLY GREATER THAN A QUARTER OF AN INCH. AND EVEN IN TALKING WITH THE ARCHITECT, WE CANNOT ACCEPT A STRUCTURE LIKE THAT BECAUSE WHAT THEY WERE PROPOSING WAS TO COME IN AND PUT WALL UNITS AND THEN BEHIND MATT, PUT COMPONENTS TO FILL THE GAP. BUT OVER TIME THAT BECOMES A MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR THE PARKS TEAM. BECAUSE WE ASK FOR CINDER BLOCKS AND NOW THE STRUCTURE IS ADDING MAINTENANCE TO A SCHEDULE THAT WE DID NOT ANTICIPATE. SO THERE IS WHERE THE DOOR JAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY DID USE FOAM TO SEAL THE GAPS WHERE THE BLOCKS HAD BEEN CUT. ESTHETICALLY IT'S JUST NOT PLEASING. AND WE WOULD THINK THAT THE COUNCILOR EVEN THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY COME TO THAT BUILDING, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT PICTURE. >> I AGREE WITH THAT PORTION ABOUT THIS. I SEE IT BECAUSE I LIVE NEAR THAT PARK. I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> CAN YOU GO THERE AND LET US KNOW. JUST BECAUSE A HOUSE WON'T FALL DOWN IF YOU WALK IN WE THE DOORS DON'T SHUT ALL THE WAY AND THE CABINETS ARE KIND OF-- BUT IT STILL STANDS. MOST PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ACCEPT THAT. >> MY CONCERN IS A LONG-TERM STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY. NOT THAT IT WILL FALL DOWN, BUT YOU'LL HAVE CRACKS. YOU HAVE A SLIGHT SHIFT IN YOUR SOYLENT FOUNDATION, YOU HAVE SHEET ROCK CRACKS AND OTHER ISSUES. THIS MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WON'T EVEN BE VISIBLE UNTIL SIX, 12, 24, 36 MONTHS FROM NOW. BUT IS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE PROBLEM, THE ISSUE OF NOT LINING UP PROPERLY. AND WHETHER IT'S A COMPLETE DEMOLISH OR PARTIAL DEMOLISH, I DON'T KNOW. TO ME, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM STAFF'S IT DOESN'T MEET CONTRACTUAL REQUIREMENTS. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE. [02:00:02] IT DOESN'T MEET STANDARDS. >> ENDED WORKS, THE TOILET WILL STILL FLUSH AND WE SHOULD BE HAPPY WITH IT. HE WANTS FULL PAYMENT. BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO-- I GOT A SEAT AGAIN. I KNOW I'M PRETTY PICKY BUT... >> -- I GOT TO SEE IT AGAIN. >> IT IS GRADUAL. IT GRADUALLY INCREASES IN SIZE. >> I'M SORRY. IT'S NOT 2 FEET. IT'S AN 8-FOOT TALL WALL. 2 FEET IT WILL BE LEANING. I MEAN THAT'S PROBABLY-- THIS 2 FEET THING, YOU HAVE A LINE AT THE TOP, IT COMES DOWN, HE IS SAYING THAT LINE IS OFF BY QUARTER-INCH, WERE SAYING IT'S OFF BY 2 FEET. >> IT'S NOT 2 FEET. IF ANYONE DRIVES AROUND, ANYONE WOULD SEE 2 FEET. >> I THINK THE DISAGREEMENT IS EVEN WITH THE ARCHITECT WE DON'T KNOW THE EXACT MEASUREMENT BUT IT'S NOT A QUARTER OF AN INCH. >> NOT 2 FEET EITHER. I'M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE THIS. >> BETWEEN 2 FEET AND A QUARTER INCH, I HAVE TO SAY IT'S KIND OF SUMMER IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THING AND IT'S GOING TO BE BIGGER THAN THREE EIGHTS WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> IT'S LESS THAN AN INCH. BUT NOT EVEN CLOSE. >> LESS THAN AN INCH IF MORE THAN THREE EIGHTS IS OUT OF SPEC. YOU TO EARLIER SAID THREE EIGHTS WAS A SPECK. >> THAT'S CORRECT. BUT IT'S NOT 2 FEET. >> SO YOU'RE SAYING IT'S WITHIN THE SPECK OF THREE EIGHTS? OR MAYBE IT'S OUTSIDE OF THAT? >> THIS IS THE ISSUE WITH THAT. >> THAT'S AN EASY QUESTION? 'S IT WITHIN THE SPECK OR NOT? >> LET ME EXPLAIN A BIT. >> I DON'T WANT TO HEAR AN EXPLANATION. TO ME IT'S A SIMPLE QUESTION. MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN DO THIS. HAVE AN ARCHITECT PUT IT DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER, LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK IT IS. IF IT'S OUT OF SPEC, WILL VOTE, YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THREE EIGHTS, FOR EIGHTS IS A HALF-INCH, WHAT IS IT? AND I DON'T NEED AN EXPLANATION, BECAUSE I'M NOT GREAT AT FRACTIONS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THEM A LITTLE BIT. >> YOU ARE SAYING IT IS NOT 2 FEET. THE OTHER GENTLEMAN SAID THAT THREE EIGHTS WAS A SPECK AND IT'S WITHIN THAT. WERE SAYING IT'S WITHIN A QUARTER OF AN INCH. SO SOMEWHERE THERE IS THE TRUTH. BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THREE EIGHTS IS NOT OUT OF SPEC RIGHT NOW. >> WE COULD TALK-- WHOEVER YOU GUYS HAVE TO TALK TO THAT'S NOT FROM THE CITY THAT CAN MEASURE IT, I ASSUME MEASURE IT OFF, AND THE COUNCILOR CAN GO BY AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SHARE PICTURES WITH US. BRENT YOUR DAYS ARE ADDING UP. IF YOU HAVE TO DO IT NOW, DO IT. BUT IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PROJECTS, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. >> WE CAN MEASURE IT. >> WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR YOUR MEASUREMENTS. WE WANT AN INDEPENDENT THIRD-PARTY. YOUR MEASUREMENT WILL COME WITHIN GUIDELINES. >> LET'S DO IT INDEPENDENTLY. LET'S AGREE TO SOMETHING. >> DOES THAT SOUND GOOD TO STAFF? >> CAN I GET A COUPLE MINUTES. >> WILL GIVE YOU ABOUT HALF A MINUTE. >> IT'S JUST MORE LIKE FEEDBACK. IF WE GOT AN EMAIL TODAY SAYING, YOU GUYS ALSO WANT TO KNOW HOW ARE YOU DOING AS A TEAM WITH THE PEOPLE. AND I HAVE SOME COMMENTS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS. >> THIS IS NOT A FORUM FOR THAT. WERE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU WANT TO DISCUSS COMMENTS ON STAFF, BY ALL MEANS, EMAIL CITY COUNCIL. WE LOVE FEEDBACK ON OUR STAFF, WE ARE JUST AS TOUGH ON THEM AS WE ARE ON YOU. BUT THIS IS JUST POSTED ABOUT YOUR ISSUES. >> I UNDERSTAND. WE WILL SEND AN EMAIL TO THE COUNCIL. IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS. WITH THE WAY IT'S BEEN GOING. BUT IT'S OKAY. WE WILL SEND AN EMAIL. >> COULD I CLARIFY ONE THING? WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS THIRD-PARTY INSPECTION, WHOEVER THAT MAYBE, IS THAT GOING TO BE A PART OF THE CITY'S RESPONSE BY [02:05:05] THE 15TH INCLUDED WITH THE RFI APPROVALS OR NAAN APPROVALS? OR IS THIS PENDING? PENDING THE MEASUREMENTS. >> I WOULD HOPE STAFF COULD GET SOMEBODY OUT THERE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS BY MONDAY OR TUESDAY AND MEASURE IT REALLY QUICK. I THINK IT WOULD BE EXTENSIVE MEASURING. BUT THAT IS UP TO THEM. >> YES. SO WHAT IS IT, I GUESS IS WHAT I'M ASKING. >> CALL STAFF IN THE MORNING AND I'M SURE THEY WILL FILL YOU IN. >> OKAY. >> WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMEONE OUT THERE IN THE NEXT THREE BUSINESS DAYS. >> OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. >> FOR YOU ALL GO, WOULD YOU ADDRESS WHY THE WALLS ARE PAINTED-- INSTEAD OF BEING AN ACTUAL... >> I CAN EXPLAIN THAT. >> BEFORE YOU EXPLAIN, ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE NATURAL PER PLANS? AND YOU PAINTED THEM? >> YES. DO YOU WANT ME TO EXPLAIN. >> NO. AL TELL YOU WHAT. MOST OF US ON CITY COUNCIL WANT PEOPLE TO FOLLOW THE PLANS AND THE TIMELINE GIVEN BECAUSE IF YOU SAY YOU BIT IT FOR $750,000, YOU DON'T WANT US TO PAY 650, YOU WANT 750. THAT WAS THE DEAL. SO YOU DON'T GET TO COME IN AND PAINTED SOMETHING ELSE AND TRY TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU DID THAT. YOU NEED TO GET IT BACK TO WHERE THE PLANS WERE IN MY OPINION. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> GOOD. LET THEM EXPLAIN WHY THEY DID IT THEN. >> I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST EXPLAINING WHAT HAPPENED. NOT POINTING FINGERS. WE ACTUALLY BUILT A WHOLE WALL ONCE AND THAT DEMOLISHED IT. SO THAT HAPPENED. WE DID THE WHOLE BUILDING AND THAT DEMOLISHED IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT UP TO THE STANDARDS. AND THAT THE VENDOR THAT SENT THEM THE CONCRETE BLOCKS, WE DID NOT REALIZE THAT IT WAS A DIFFERENT BATCH. AND BEING A MATERIAL, WE DID NOT NOTICE THAT IT WAS DIFFERENT AND REUSE THEM BOTH BOTH, AND IT DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO US. THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM WITH THE WALLS. WE ALSO FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE. THEY WEREN'T EXACTLY THE SAME MEASUREMENTS. SO THAT ALSO CAUSED SOME OF THIS OFF PLUM ISSUES. THAT WAS THE ISSUE. AND THEN WE REQUESTED THAT WE COULD PAINTED ON OUR COST OF COURSE. AND THAT'S WHY THEY ARE PAINTED. BETSY EXPLANATION. >> SO WE HAVE A QA QC ISSUE. YOU DID NOT NOTICE AND WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH A PLUM WALL. >> ONE TIME I DIDN'T INSTALL FLOORING AND WENT TO TWO HOME DEPOT'S AND GOT THE SAME TILE AND WHEN THE GUY CAME AND INSTALLED IT HE SAID THIS TILE IS NOT THE SAME COLORANT HE FIGURED IT OUT BEFORE HE EVEN INSTALLED IT. SO I RETURNED ONE BATCH AND I LEARNED THEN THAT EVERYTHING HAS A CERTAIN MATCH. AND THAT IS IT. THEY NEVER MATCH UP AGAIN. AND YOU GUYS ARE PROFESSIONALS. AND I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD KNOW THAT. I KNOW IT MIGHT DAY JOB WE ONLY ORDER IT FROM ONE PLACE. IT DOES COME OUT IN A DIFFERENT COLOR, A DIFFERENT SIZE. I DON'T KNOW WHY. BUT YOU GUYS ARE PROFESSIONALS. SO YOU WILL FIGURE THAT OUT. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF THIS. IT WAS BAD. >> COOL. WE WILL TRY TO MOVE ON. >> THANK YOU. >> GENTLEMAN, BEFORE YOU LOGOFF, COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND BUSINESS FOR THE RECORD? >> MICHAEL GUTIERREZ, MICROTEK. >> VICTOR, MICROTEK. >> THANK YOU. >> YOU DON'T HAVE MORE BAD NEWS, DO YOU? [LAUGHTER] >> I FEEL SORRY FOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH. >> THAT IS THE LAST OF THE UPDATES. >> LET THE PUBLIC RECORDS SHOW WE ARE EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED. WE ARE PUSHING EVERYBODY TO HIT TIMELINES AND SOME OF US ARE BEING-- I WILL SAY SOME, EQUALLY [02:10:01] TOUGH, ON EVERYBODY WHO CANNOT HIT A DEADLINE. SO WE UNDERSTAND THE PUBLIC'S FRUSTRATION. [9.1. Conduct a public hearing and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-024 approving Hutto Residential (a.k.a. Residence Inn Hotel) Planned Unit Development (PUD) zoning ordinance to vary from Section 10.403.4 to exceed the maximum allowable building height and Section 10.405.9 reducing the parking ratio minimums for guest rooms and meeting spaces. (Howard Koontz)] THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE 91. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON ORDINANCE 706 STASHED TWO FOR. APPROVING RESIDENTS IN HOTEL, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ZONING ORDINANCE. FROM SECTION 10.403.4, TO EXCEED THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE BUILDING HEIGHT AND SECTION 10.405.9, REDUCING THE PARKING RATIO MINIMUMS FOR GUEST ROOMS AND MEETINGS FOR-- MEETING SPACES. HOWARD, IT'S YOUR FIRST TIME. WELCOME. >> COUNCIL, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS HOWARD KOONTZ. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WOULD YOU RATHER ANYBODY WHO SIGNED UP SPEAK FIRST OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM ME FIRST? >> YOU GO AHEAD. >> I WILL DO IT. THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION. TONIGHT IS THE ITEM FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PUD ON A PHYSICAL PROPERTY IN THE HANSONS CORNER EXPANSION. IT IS ABOUT 3 ACRES. AND THE UNDERLYING ZONING IS BEAUCHAMP. ARE MOST INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. IT ALLOWS FOR A HOST OF RETAIL SERVICES, INCLUDING HOTELS, MOTEL, LODGING. SO FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS A RESIDENTS AND HOTEL, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD ON THE LOT TODAY. IT'S ALREADY APPROPRIATELY ZONED. THEY SEEK TO ESTABLISH A PUD OVER TOP OF THE ZONING TO ALLOW FOR TWO MAINTENANCES. ONE IS FOR BUILDING HEIGHT. THEY WOULD PREFER TO BE 50 FEET TO ALLOW FOR A FOUR-STORY. ADDITIONALLY THEY SEEK TO REDUCE REQUIRED PARKING. OUR STANDARD IN THE CITY HAS A STANDARD THAT IS ESTABLISHED FOR EACH GUEST ROOM, AND ADDITIONALLY THERE IS A STANDARD FOR GARAGE FLOOR AREA. THEY WOULD RATHER REDUCE THE REQUIRED PARKING STANDARD, AND AS WELL MAKE NO PROVISIONS FOR GROSS FLOOR AREA, INCLUDING THEIR RESTAURANT, BAR, CONFERENCE AND MEETING ROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THE NEXT SLIDE HAS A AREA MAP ON IT WHICH SHOWS THE ZONING. SO THE STARS THE SITE WERE LOOKING AT HERE. THAT'S THE SITE FOR THIS HOTEL. IF YOU LOOK TO THE SOUTHEAST THAT IS THE SITE WHERE THE HOME DEPOT IS, AND IF YOU LOOK DUE SOUTH FROM THERE, SLIGHTLY SOUTH, ECA FITNESS AND WORKOUT CENTER. THE RED INDICATES B-2 ZONING. THE TAN AREAS ARE WHERE PUD'S HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED. STAFF DID NOT FIND ANY ISSUE WITH THE USE AT ALL. THE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE. THE REQUEST IS APPROPRIATE. CONTEXTUALLY WHERE IT IS LOCATED. BECAUSE OF ALL THE SIMILAR ZONING AND IT BEING A LARGE ACTIVITY CENTER. THE ISSUE WE HAVE IS THE IDEA OF ASKING FOR AN EXTENDED HEIGHT AND REDUCED PARKING UNDER THE GUISE OF A PUD WHERE TRADITIONALLY THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS. WE DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE PRIOR STAFF SUGGESTED TO THE APPLICANT THAT THEY COME FORWARD AND SEEK THE PUD. AND STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF GATEKEEPING THE PROCESS SO IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO COME FORWARD AND APPLY FOR A PUD THEY CAN'T DO THAT. STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY NO REAL REASON TO APPROVE THIS. WE TOOK A TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING ABOUT A MONTH AGO WITH A STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. IT WAS APPROVED. IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL 301. SO I WILL MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS LIKELY TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. 'S AT THE TIME? WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:18 P.M. DOES ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WAS TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE WE WILL CLOSE. I WILL CLOSE AT 9:19 P.M. AND IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP AND-- I GUESS WHILE YOU'RE COMING UP, A QUICK QUESTION, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IN ORDER TO GO ZBA, YOU CANNOT HAVE AN ITEM-- YOU CANNOT HAVE A [02:15:05] SELF-IMPOSED ISSUE. SO THEY WOULDN'T DO A ZBA BECAUSE BUILDING HEIGHTS WOULD NOT BE SELF-IMPOSED, AND PARKING WOULD HAVE TO BE SELF ASSIGNED. DUE TO SOME EASEMENT IN THE PROPERTY, OUT OF THEIR CONTROL THAT LIMITED THEM. >> I WOULD ARGUE THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS SELF-IMPOSED. THEY DESIGN A BUILDING THAT IS 50 FEET TALL. >> THAT'S WHAT HE IS SAYING. >> SO YOU CANNOT GO ZBA, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO GO TO ZBA. >> YOU CANNOT SUCCESSFULLY TRANSIT ZBA. CORRECT. IT NEEDS TO BE PREDICATED ON HARDSHIP. YOU ON THE OTHER HAND, THIS BOARD IS NOT COMPARED TO THAT STANDARD. LENIENCY, INNOVATION OF DESIGN, THE EXPECTATION TO FIT INTO SURROUNDINGS BETTER THROUGH MEANS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY CALLED FOR. >> THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE STAFF HAD PREVIOUSLY SAID IF YOU WANT THIS TO GO TO COUNCIL, BECAUSE YOU CANNOT GO TO ZBA, BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO ZBA THEY WILL SAY YOU ARE ON HARDSHIP. >> PERHAPS. I COULD NOT SPECULATE. SOUNDS PLAUSIBLE. >> OKAY. THANK YOU. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM WITH SLT X CAPITAL. WE ARE A HOTEL DEVELOPING COMPANY BASED OUT OF HOUSTON TEXAS. AND WE ARE THE DEVELOPERS BEHIND THIS PROJECT TO BUILD THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. I WILL GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF MY BACKGROUND AND WE WILL SPEAK ON THE PROJECT. WE HAVE BEEN IN THE HOTEL BUSINESS FOR 20 YEARS PLUS. OUR CURRENT PORTFOLIO INCLUDES A 275 ROOM DUAL BRAND HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON THAT WE OPENED ABOUT A MONTH AGO. WE ARE DOING A 138 ROOM CANOPY UPPER LUXURY BRAND HOTEL IN DOWNTOWN HOUSTON, WHICH IS BREAKING GROUND AUGUST THIS YEAR. TO BE DELIVERED OCTOBER OF 2027. WE OWN AND OPERATE THE AUSTIN LAKE TRAVIS. WE ARE ALSO UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO BUILD SUITES IN LAKE TRAVIS AS WELL THAT IS SLATED TO OPEN LATER THIS YEAR. WE ALSO HAVE A RESIDENTS AND MARBLE HALLS PROJECT TO BE SLATED TO BREAK GROUND LATER THIS YEAR. AND WE ALSO OWN AND OPERATE A FULL SERVICE MARRIOTT IN HOUSTON ENERGY CORRIDOR-- CORRIDOR. SO THAT IS OUR PORTFOLIO. KIND OF OPEN THAT UP WITH OUR PORTFOLIO TO LEAD COUNCIL KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT. KNOWLEDGE TO BUILD A HOTEL LIKE A RESIDENTS-- LIKE OUR RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. WE ARE HERE WILLING TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK WITH YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR SUPPORT. WE ARE RESTRICTED TO A SITE TO BUILD A HOTEL THAT CAN FIT OUR BUDGET. THERE IS A REASON WHY WE ARE ASKING TO BUILD THAT AMOUNT OF ROOMS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A PARKING VARIANCE. ALL THIS COMES TO PLAY BECAUSE OF THE ROOMS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT WORK IF WE WERE TO SCALE BACK, THE PERFORMER DOESN'T WORK, THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK, WE SPENT TIME ON THE ENERGY IN THIS PROJECT ALREADY. MY HOPE, CHRIS'S HOPE IS THAT IF WE CAN FIND A WAY FORWARD TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON THAT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WILL LET CHRIS GET ON WITH THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. CITY MANAGER. MY NAME IS CHRIS NICHOLS. ON THE ATTORNEY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROJECT STARTED AS A CONCEPT WHERE THEY WANTED TO BRING A RESIDENTS MAC INN STYLE QUALITY PROJECT. THE PROJECT IS UNIQUE IN TERMS OF IT'S SIZE. WE HAD OUR FIRST DEVELOPED A MEETING WITH CITY STAFF IN DECEMBER 2024. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WITH CURRENT STAFF THERE IS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS. WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ADDRESS THESE VARIATIONS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK. SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE'VE BEEN PROPOSING DOCUMENTS, SUBMITTING THE PAPERWORK OF THE CITY TO REVIEW. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN TOLD TO STOP. AND GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE. IT'S ONLY BEEN AS WE'VE GONE TOWARDS THE END, IN FRONT OF PNC, NOW IN FRONT OF COUNCIL, THAT IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED THAT WE [02:20:02] SHOULD SCRAP THE WORK WE HAVE DONE AND START OVER AND GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE. THE CITY'S ORDINANCE DOES ALLOW FOR COUNCIL TO ADDRESS THESE KINDS OF DEVIATIONS FROM THE CODE. IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS TO BE APPROVED. THE HEIGHT REQUEST WE ARE ASKING FOR IS ACTUALLY 55 FEET INSTEAD OF 45 FEET. THE DETAILS IN THAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING TO THE TOP OF THE ROOF, THE ROOF PLATE, IS 46.46 FEET. THE TOP OF THE PARAPET, THE DECORATIVE AREA THAT SURROUNDS THE HOTEL IS 54.6. 54.1 FEET. SO THAT IS SORT OF THE DISTINCTION IN TERMS OF THE REQUEST WE ARE MAKING FOR THE HEIGHT. IN TERMS OF THE PARKING, THIS COMPANY HAS DONE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS. AND THE TREND WE ARE SEEING IS THAT WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, SHARED RIDES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE ARE NOT SEEING THE NEED FOR ONE PARKING SPACE PER ROOM. NOT EVEN 1.2 PARKING SPACES PER ROOM. WE ARE SEEING SOMETHING MORE ON THE LINES OF .9, .8, .75. SO THE REASON WE ARE SEEING THAT TREND IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR AN ACCOMMODATION TO REDUCE THE PARKING FROM 1.2, WHICH IS WHAT THE CITY REQUIRES, TO THE .9, WHICH PUTS US WITHIN TWO WHAT WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE WHICH IS 106 SPACES FOR 116 ROOMS. THE STUDY THAT WAS COMMISSIONED, TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF THE PROJECT ESTIMATES THAT THE OCCUPANCY OF THE HOTEL FIRST YEAR WOULD BE IN THE REALM OF 75%. OCCUPANCY FOR YEARS 2310 AVERAGES SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 85% OF OCCUPANCY. SO EVEN AT 116 KEYS, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT WE ARE EVER GOING TO HAVE WITH ANY REGULARITY A COMPLETELY FULL SOLD-OUT HOTEL. WHICH ALSO WE THINK SPEECH TO THE ISSUE OF NOT NEEDING AS MUCH PARKING. WE HAVE ALSO TRIED TO ADDRESS PARKING ISSUES WITH SHARED PARKING AGREEMENTS. WE HAVE BEEN IN ONGOING NEGOTIATIONS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH HOME DEPOT TO AGREE UPON USE FOR THE 20 SPACES THAT YOU SEE THEY ARE ADJACENT FROM THE SITE. WE ALSO HAD VERY POSITIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH TACO CASA, WHICH HAS 20 LEASE SPACES THEY ARE WILLING TO LET US USE DURING CERTAIN OFF-HOURS. SAY AFTER SIX AND BEFORE 9:00. SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THOSE SOLUTIONS TO TRY TO GET THE EXTRA PARKING. BUT IN ORDER TO BRING THE DEVELOPMENT, THE QUALITY, THE BRAND THAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE PACKET, WE WOULD LIKE THE APPROVAL OF THOSE TWO DEVIATIONS. >> THANK YOU, SERA. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ACTUALLY SEVERAL. I SEE THE ELEVATION YOU TALK ABOUT WITH THE PARAPET BEING CLOSE TO 55 FEET. IT SEEMS LIKE THE BULK OF THE BUILDING IS AROUND 47 FEET, CORRECT. >> 47.6 FEET. >> I SEE THE ELEVATION IN FRONT OF ME. I'M SAYING THAT OVERALL, THE BUILDING IS CLOSE TO 45-FOOT. EXCEPT FOR THE PARAPET THING. SO I'M LEANING THAT THAT MAYBE OKAY FOR THAT LEAN OVER. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE HEIGHT ISSUES. I HAVE MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH THE PARKING. PER CODE IT'S 1.2. BUT IT ALSO REQUIRES I BELIEVE 100-- FOR BANQUET AND-- IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A REDUCTION, AND I'LL GO INTO WHAT I WILL SAY IS THE RELEVANCY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS. SORRY. THE PARKING RATIONALE. IT'S ONE THING TO SAY YOU'RE GOING TO USE LESS PARKING SPACES, BUT YOU HAVE MEETINGS AND CONFERENCE ROOMS, WHAT IS THE TOTAL OCCUPANCY OF THOSE? >> THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE MEETING ROOMS IS 2422 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN THE CITIES GO DIVIDED BY 100. THE CODE REQUIRES 24 SPACES. THE INTENT OF-- LET ME JUST SAY, AS THE DEVELOPER AND OPERATOR OF THE HOTEL, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY HAS REQUIREMENTS. BUT WE ALSO SEE THAT AS AN OPERATIONAL CHALLENGE FOR US. THAT IF WE WANT TO MAKE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE ROOMS AND SPACE, WE NEED TO PROVIDE A PARKING SOLUTION. THE INTENT IS FOR THIS HOTEL NOT [02:25:06] TO BE FOR OFF-SITE CONFERENCES WHERE WE ARE HOSTING CONVENTIONS OR BIG MEETINGS OR THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S INTENDED TO BE A GUEST USE FACILITY. SO YOU HAVE GUESTS THEY ARE, THEY ARE ALREADY HAVING A MEETING THERE, THERE NOT DRAWING FROM OTHER GROUPS OR TRADES OR THINGS LIKE THAT TO HAVE THAT IN ADDITION TO. >> THAT KIND OF SUPPORTS MY POSITION. WHEN YOUR OCCUPANCY RATES ARE THE HIGHEST IS WHEN YOU'LL HAVE THE HIGHEST DEMAND ON YOUR MEETING AREA. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN YOUR MEETING ROOMS HAVE KEYS ALREADY? OKAY. I JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE OR THE OTHER IS ONE THING, HAVING BOTH IS A BIT OF A CONCERN. I KNOW THAT-- THE OTHER DIAGRAM SHOW THAT THIS PLOT WAS ACTUALLY ON EDGE MEANT. BUT IT'S BEHIND THE CASSA, NORTH OF THE HOME DEPOT. SO THAT EGRESS THERE IS THAT SMALL LANE THAT HAS A HISTORY OF 18-WHEELERS PARKING ON IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A HOME DEPOT OR A CITY ISSUE, BUT THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM OF EACH 18-WHEELER TAKING UP TEN TO 12 SPACES. >> OBSERVATION WISE, I DROVE THERE BEFORE THE EVENING-- MEETING THIS AFTERNOON. AND THERE IS A SIGN OUT THERE THAT SAYS NO 18-WHEELER PARKING ON THE SPACES. WHICH I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING. BUT ALSO DISCUSSING WITH HOME DEPOT'S LEGAL AND LOCAL BUSINESS MANAGER, THEIR CONCERN WAS MAINTAINING THE AREA ALONGSIDE THE NORTH AND SOUTH SPACES THAT FACE THE STORY. HAVING THOSE AVAILABLE FOR 18-WHEELER DROP OFF AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER. IF WE COULD REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH HOME DEPOT, AND THEY'VE NOT TOLD US NO. THERE WOULD BE AN EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR THOSE TO BE USED. >> IT'S NOT A CITY ISSUE PER SE, IT'S A HOME DEPOT ISSUE. AND THOSE NORTH-SOUTH SPACES, THEY USUALLY HAVE PALLETS ON THEM. BUT THAT'S A HOME DEPOT THING. >> AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES WE ARE WORKING THROUGH. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WAS THE RATIONALE. YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF RIDE SHARES. I GUESS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THE SPACES ARE NOW AT .71 SPACES PER GUEST ROOM ON SATURDAYS. SO IT MENTIONS THE RIDESHARE SERVICE AND SHUTTLES. WE ARE IN HUTTO. OUTSIDE OF AN INDIVIDUAL LIPTON HUBER. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE THINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS. >> WE LIKE TO DRIVE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT IT. >> THERE ARE SOME THINGS IN THE WORKS. BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE SAME TIME FRAME. BUT IT DOESN'T EXIST AT THIS TIME. I DON'T KNOW IF THE ASSUMPTION SAYS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO NEED 106 PARKING SPACES PER 106 KEYS. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT RATIONALE IS VALID OR NOT. I'M NOT SAYING IT ISN'T. I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT IS. AND THE OTHER THING WAS THE MENTION ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER. YOU WERE SAYING IF YOU DID HAVE TO MEET THE 1.2 REQUIREMENT THAT YOU BE BUMPING UP OR EXCEEDING THE PROVISION. >> WE ARE AT THAT. >> AT 106. SO YOU CAN'T GO ABOVE IT OR YOU NEED A WAIVER ON THE OTHER FRONT. PERFECT. OKAY. >> FOR WATER TO SEEP INTO THE GROUND. >> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION WITH THE PARKING. >> IN OTHER WORDS IF WE DID REQUIRE THE 1.2 THEN YOU WOULD NEED A WAIVER ON A PARTS CODE. >> AND WE WOULD SOLVE THAT PROBLEM WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS. REROOFING OR OTHER. >> I AGREE. BUT IT'S ANOTHER MITIGATING THING. >> I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HEIGHT OR THE PARKING. >> I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT. AND IT MAYBE RELEVANT. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF THE SPACES IN THE CITY TODAY. IF THERE IS A OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A HOTEL COME IN THAT DOES HAVE A BANQUET MEETING SPACE, IT'S GOING TO BE AN ATTRACTIVE ADDITION TO THE CITY. SO WE HAVE ONE MEETING SPACE RIGHT NOW. IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO USE FOR BOOKING A MEETING SPACE SO THEY [02:30:01] WOULD NEED MORE SPACE FOR PARKING. EVEN IF IT IS SMALL WE ONLY HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW AND IT'S HARD TO BOOK SOMETIMES WITH THE COLLEGE. GRANTED PARKING IS LIMITED BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION. BUT THIS IS WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND IT'S ATTRACTIVE. PEOPLE WILL WANT TO USE IT FOR BANQUET AND MEETING SPACE EVENTS. SO THAT WOULD PUSH THE NEED FOR PARKING. SO THERE MAYBE A NEED OR OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP WITH A CREATIVE WAY OF SOLVING THE PARKING ISSUE TO THE CITY MANAGERS POINT. >> I THINK THAT SOME OF THAT USED TO HAPPEN AT THE HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS. SO YOU ARE RIGHT. WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEETING SPACES IN HUTTO WHERE PEOPLE CAN JUST GET TOGETHER. SO IF YOU HAVE MEETING SPACE, PEOPLE IN HUTTO WILL KNOW. >> THEY WILL COME TOGETHER. IT WILL BE IN HIGH DEMAND. >> SOME ROUGH NUMBERS, AT 116 ROOMS AT A .9, THAT'S 104 SPACES. IF YOU ADD BACK IN THE CITY'S REQUIREMENT FOR THE ONE SPACE PER 100 SQUARE FEET OF CONFERENCE SPACE, THAT'S 24 SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 128. JUST TO GIVE US SOME NUMBERS. AND WITH THE NUMBERS WE ARE LOOKING AT TRY TO SECURE AGREEMENTS. >> THAT IS 22. >> YES. >> I WON'T MIND BEING THE DIFFERING OPINION. I'M NOT BIG ON PARKING REQUIREMENTS, BECAUSE WHO CAME UP WITH THE NUMBER. PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BUILT A HOTEL OR OPERATED A HOTEL OR STAYED AT A HOTEL. THE FEW TIMES I GO TO CONFERENCES, AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE POWER BREAKFAST AND THINGS, EVERYONE THAT WAS STAYING THERE ALREADY GOT UP AND LEFT. SO GENERALLY WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE MEETINGS, IT IS AN ADD ON. BECAUSE OUT OF ALL THE TIMES I'VE HAD TO GO TO HOTELS IN THESE MEETINGS, OTHER THAN WHATEVER THE FANCY ONE IS DOWNTOWN, THAT'S ALWAYS BUSY, THE PEOPLE ARE GONE, THEY WAKE UP AND THERE DOING WHATEVER THERE DOING DURING THE DAY AND YOU HAVE 100 PARKING SPOTS EMPTY WAITING FOR A CONFERENCE TO COME IN. 2400 SQUARE FEET. ALL THE HOTELS IN HUTTO HAVE CONFERENCE SPACE. THERE ALL SMALL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SIZES. BUT IF THIS WAS NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL AREA, I WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE HEIGHT HERE. IT'S NEXT TO HOME DEPOT. THEY DON'T REALLY RUN THE BEST OPERATION. IT'S AN EYE PLEASING THING WITH LANDSCAPE AND LUSH. WE JUST ALLOW THEM TO PARK TRUCKS ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH THE VARIANCE FROM PROBABLY SIX MONTHS AGO. SO AT A HOTEL, BEHIND A TACO CASA, NEXT TO A HOME DEPOT. TEN EXTRA FEET DOESN'T BOTHER ME. THE PARKING DOESN'T BOTHER ME. NOT ONLY DO I NOT AGREE WITH ALWAYS DICTATING PARKING SPOTS, BUT TO ME IF YOU GUYS ARE ALL OVER A HOME DEPOT PROPERTY TOMORROW, THEN HOME DEPOT CAN TAKE THAT UP WITH YOU AND THAT'S LEGAL ACTION. TACO CASA WILL TAKE THAT UP WITH YOU AND SAY PEOPLE ARE PARKING ALL OVER OUR AREA. AT THIS IS A DIFFERENT AREA I MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PARKING. BUT YOU HEARD EARLIER THAT I LIKE TO GO TO THE LOCAL MEXICAN RESTAURANTS. IF YOU GO TO A TACO CASA, AND THERE IS ISSUES, BETWEEN TACO CASA AND TOP-NOTCH, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PARKING. BUT THAT IS A BUSINESS THING FOR THEM. IT'S NOT A CITY THING. NO ONE EVER CALLS ME, THEY COMPLAINED TO ME ABOUT EVERYTHING, EXCEPT FOR THERE IS NO PARKING, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT. THAT'S A BUSINESS THING. THEY WANT TO HAVE MORE PARKING OR MORE CUSTOMERS, THEY NEED MORE PARKING. THEY NEED TO WORK IT OUT WITH OTHER PEOPLE. AND THERE IS A PARKING GARAGE. AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WALKING TO THERE PARKING GARAGE. SO I SAY ALL THIS TO SAY IF YOU GUYS WANT TO BUILD 98 PARKING SPOTS, HONESTLY, AS A CUSTOMER, I DO NOT CARE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS ARE GOING TO LIMIT YOUR BUSINESS. AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL EVER BE 100%. I THINK IT'S LIKE YOU CAN STAY THERE FOR A WEEK AT A TIME, RATE? SO YOU HAVE A LITTLE KITCHEN AND STUFF. I SEE THAT A LOT WITH THE PEOPLE. SOME PEOPLE OVERBILLED PARKING. I KNOW A PARTICULAR COMPANY THAT OVERBUILT EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH. AND I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A CHILI'S RESTAURANT THAT HAD ENOUGH PARKING EVERY CHILI'S RESTAURANT, YOU WALK IN AND THINK THIS PLACE IS GOING TO BE PACKED. IT'S HALF EMPTY BECAUSE THERE IS NO PARKING. SO I THINK IT'S ALL BUSINESS CENTERED AND IF YOU GUYS ARE A FEW PARKING SPOTS OFF AND YOU WANT TO INCREASE YOUR OCCUPANCY RATE AND THE DEMAND IS THERE, [02:35:03] YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT. BUT I ALWAYS STRUGGLE WHEN THE GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU HOW TO PARK. 148 PARKING SPOTS. IF WE HAD TO PAY FOR EVERY SPOT NOT USED, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. WE WOULD COME BACK AND SAY YOU OVERBUILT IT. WHY DID YOU OVER BUILD IT. DO I HAVE CONCERNS, YES, BUT THAT'S FOR YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT. YOU NEED TO WORK WITH THOSE COMPANIES AND IF THEY TELL YOU NO, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL CALL AND GET YOUR CAR TOWED AND THE ONES THAT HAVE THE ISSUE. AND AGAIN, THE 10 FEET, BASED ON WHERE YOU'RE AT, I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IT. IF YOU GUYS TRY TO DO US-- DO THIS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND PARKING ON THE STREETS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO TOE ALL THE CARS, THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE YOU'VE EXPERIENCED THAT BEFORE. BUT BEING IN A COMMERCIAL AREA, I GO TO THE VALLEY ALL THE TIME. AND EVERYBODY'S PARKING ALL OVER THE PLACE. AND THEY DO THAT BECAUSE AT THAT PEAK PERIOD. >> THAT'S WHY WE CALL IT AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE FOR US. WE'VE GOT TO FIX THAT TO INCREASE OCCUPANCY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >> DOES THIS GO BACK TO PNC. I SEE A NOTE THAT PN Z RECOMMENDS APPROVAL THREE TO ONE. THEY ARE REQUESTING AN UPDATE FROM THE APPLICANT IN THE MEETING TONIGHT. SO DOES HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT? >> I DID NOT UNDERSTAND IF IT DID. BUT I WOULD DIFFER THAT. >> MY FOLLOW-UP QUESTION WOULD BE WHY DO WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR THESE PARKING SPACES? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION WE ARE ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW. >> I THINK WE PROPOSE TO TAKE ALL PARKING REQUIREMENTS OUT IN A REWRITE. IF YOUR HOME DEPOT, WE SAY BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WE THINK THAT YOU NEED 850 PARKING SPOTS. AND EVERYBODY DRIVES UP AND SAYS-- THE LOWS PARKING LOT IS SO BIG THEY HOLD CAR SHOWS ON THE WEEKEND THERE. -- THE LOWS MAC PARKING LOT. IT'S THINGS LIKE THAT. THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS TO TAKE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AWAY OTHER THAN IT HAS TO BE NINE BY 18. AND AFTER THAT YOU FIGURE OUT AND GOOD LUCK. >> I THINK STILL, THAT COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA'S CONCERNS WERE VALID WITH THE PARKING AND MEETING SPACE. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU GUYS REACHED OUT TO OTHER BUSINESSES AROUND YOU TO ACCOMMODATE THAT. AND YOU MADE A GREAT POINT. THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM. NOT THEIR PROBLEM. YOU SAID BUILD TWO PARKING SPACES AND YOU DID IT. >> ALL OF OUR WALLS WILL BE STRAIGHT. [LAUGHTER] >> THAT IS PUBLIC RECORD NOW. >> I'M GOING TO MEASURE IT. >> THERE IS A HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET. >> SAME MATERIALS FROM THE SAME BATCH. >> THEY ARE YOUR BEHIND ON BUILDING THE THING ACROSS THE STREET. IT'S ON A TCO. >> THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD QUESTION. THE ONE THAT'S JUST BUILT, DOES THAT ONE HAVE 1.2 SPACES PER ROOM? >> I THINK WE DID THE VARIANCE ON I THINK IT THEY SAID BECAUSE HE BACKED UP TO RESIDENTIAL YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY WINDOWS OTHER THAN FIRE ESCAPE WINDOWS, AND OUTSIDE OF THAT THEY HAD TO COVER THEIR AIR-CONDITIONERS. >> AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THE SIZE OF THIS PARCEL WITH THE VERY BEST PROJECT THAT CAN GO ON END. >> WE HAVE A SPOT HERE FOR A NINE STORY HOTEL. IF YOU RUN OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL, OR PREVIOUS COUNCILOR ARE STILL TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO BUILD THAT ONE. -- OUR PREVIOUS COUNCILOR. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WILL NOT HAVE ROOM WINDOWS ON THE NORTH SIDE BECAUSE THEY USE THEIR COULD POTENTIALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE PRIVACY. SO THAT IS HELPFUL. THE HEIGHT IS NOT A HUGE CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S MOSTLY DECORATIVE. IT'S THE BRANDING WITH THE HOTEL. AND THE PARKING, IT'S A SOLVABLE [02:40:02] PROBLEM BECAUSE THOSE SPOTS BY HOME DEPOT, PEOPLE USE THEM BUT THEY ARE JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A SPOT THAT NO ONE'S TRACKING THAT THEY CAN PARK IN AND GET AWAY WITH. IF HOME DEPOT CAN MAKE SOME MONEY, AND MAKE A DEAL WITH YOU GUYS, THEY WILL. WHY WOULDN'T THEY. >> WE JUST WANT THEM TO MOVE A BIT FASTER. >> THE SAME WITH TACO CASA, IF THEY SEE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT HELPS THEIR RELATIVELY SMALL BUSINESS, MAKE A FEW DOLLARS, GIVE UP SOME ACCESS TO SOME OF THEIR SPACES, MORE POWER TO THEM. AND MOST OF THE CONFERENCES, LIKE YOU SAID, PEOPLE LEAVE THE HOTEL EVERY DAY, AND EVERY HOTEL YOU GO TO DURING THE DAY YOU CAN FIND PARKING. AT NIGHT YOU CAN GO EVERY SUNDAY AT 8:00 AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT GETS HARD FOR PARKING. BUT AT NOON YOU CAN FIND PARKING REALLY FAST. >> IS THERE A RESTAURANT ALSO ARE JUST A MEETING ROOM? [INDISCERNIBLE] >> WHEN I THINK OF A RESTAURANT I THINK OF A RESTAURANT. THIS IS JUST A BRANDED RESIDENTS. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> YOU CAN WALK AROUND AND EAT AT ALL THE PLACES. >> IF YOU JUST COME UP, I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> MY NAME IS STELLA ROBERTS. I REPRESENT THE CHURCH, THE HUTTO UNITED DISCOVERY METHODIST CHURCH. WE ARE WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE PROPOSED MARRIOTT. AND I AM ALSO A RELATIVELY NEW RESIDENT OF HUTTO. I WOULD SAY, AND I HAVE EXAMINED ALL 36 PAGES OF THIS PROSPECTUS, I'VE LOOKED AT THE ENGINEERING SPECS. I'VE LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF ROOMS, THE AMOUNT OF PARKING PLACES, SO FORTH AND SO ON. AS A RESIDENT AND AS A MEMBER OF A CHURCH THAT IS 300 FEET AWAY FROM THIS, I WISH THE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE OF CONCERN TO US. ONE OF THOSE THINGS HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PARKING. SO WITH LAND AT 300 FEET WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSED RESIDENTS, IT'S ALTOGETHER POSSIBLE THAT OUR LAND WOULD BE AFFECTED AS WELL. AND SHOPPING AT HOME DEPOT, YOU KNOW THAT THE ACCESS TO HOME DEPOT FROM WHERE THIS BUILDING IS PROPOSED IS JUST THAT LITTLE STRIP OF-- I ALWAYS CALLED IT THE ALLEYWAY. IN THINKING ABOUT ACCESS TO THE HOTEL, I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN. I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A PLAYGROUND THAT IS JUST RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENCY. AND THAT JUST MEANS ADDITIONAL COST TO US IN BUILDING A BIG FENCE OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME UP. I UNDERSTAND ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS IS NOT HAVING WINDOWS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR. I'D GET THAT. FACING NORTH WHERE OUR PROPERTY IS. IT'S BEYOND THE NORTH SIDE. THAT HAS TO DO WITH CODE ISSUES AS WELL. I JUST WANT, AS A CITIZEN VALUE-- FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF A HOTEL COMING IN RIGHT NEXT TO HOME DEPOT. RIGHT BEHIND TACO CASA. YOU ARE ALSO COMING IN RIGHT NEXT TO A CHURCH. AND THAT LAND HAS BEEN DONATED TO THE CHURCH BY ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF HUTTO BACK WHEN IT'S CAME INTO THIS AREA. NOT THAT THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING, BUT NOW YOU KNOW. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND CONSIDER THE ISSUE OF PARKING, BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL BE AN ISSUE. I ALSO THINK THAT HOME DEPOT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY TO RENT SPACES TO THE HOTEL. I CAN'T IMAGINE THE LIABILITY ISSUES THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THAT. SO THAT IS JUST A CONCERN I WANTED TO VOICE ON BEHALF OF THE CHURCH. [02:45:02] I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT ENTIRE AREA, I'M SURE SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ED SCHMIDT BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH THAT IS OCCURRING. THEY ARE NO PLANS AT THIS TIME BUT I'M SURE IT WILL COME. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT THE HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET IS NOT COMPLETELY FINISHED, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND THE MARRIOTT I UNDERSTAND HAS A PLAN TO PUT YET ANOTHER FACILITY INTO THAT AREA. SO IN ANY EVENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO GET UP HERE AND TALK AND BREAK PRO PROTOCOL. >> FOR FUTURE WHENEVER WE OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT'S JUST FOR THE PUBLIC. >> AND I WAS NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING TONIGHT. BUT I CANNOT HELP MYSELF. SO THANK YOU. YOU HAVE BEEN VERY NICE TO AN OLD LADY. THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE CHURCH AND PARKING. I KNOW CHEERING-- THERE WASN'T OF-- I KNOW DURING AN EVENT AT THE CHURCH THERE WAS VOTING AT THE CHURCH AND PEOPLE HAD TO PARK FOR A COUPLE HOURS. THEY HAD TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET. AND THERE WAS-- IT'S ALL VERY SMALL AND VERY NARROW. >> YES. IT IS CRAZY. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE CARS COME FROM. AND OF COURSE WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE JUST FOR THE GENERAL POPULACE YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT IN TO CONSIDERATION. I'M ALL FOR GROWTH. I WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. I HEARD EVERY COMMISSIONER TALK ABOUT THE NEED FOR ANOTHER HOTEL. I GET IT. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, WE ARE GROWING, AND JUST WAIT UNTIL WE GET A ROCKET FACILITY THAT WANTS TO COME INTO HUTTO. SO, IN ANY EVENT, PLEASE JUST THINK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE IS RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THE AREA BUT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. I JUST WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT OUR LITTLE CHURCH. AND WHAT IT CAN-- WHAT CONGESTION THAT WILL CAUSE. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING THAT I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. >> I'M MAKING THIS MOTION. AND I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS. WE HAVE ORDINANCES THAT DON'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO PARK ON GRASS. AND JUST LIKE WHEN YOU HAD AN EVENT, PEOPLE PARKED ACROSS THE STREET AT ANOTHER BUSINESS, THAT WOULD BE ILLEGAL. BUT THAT'S A CIVIL MATTER. AND I CUT THROUGH BECAUSE I'M EXTREMELY IMPATIENT. I CUT THROUGH THE HOME DEPOT. EVERY DAY TO COACH-- THROUGH CITY HALL WHEN I HAVE TO GO. AND I DRIVE OVER SPEED BUMPS, AT THE SPEED LIMIT, BUT I GO AND DO ALL OF THAT. I DO THINK THAT THE PARKING EASEMENTS, WHICH ARE COMMENT-- COMMON INTO VELMA'S LIKE THIS, I THINK THERE IS A PATH TO THIS AND I DON'T SEE MYSELF REGRETTING IT, BUT I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS, THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE SOMEWHAT IN THE BUSINESS. AND MAYBE THAT MAKES YOU MORE COMFORTABLE THAN OTHERS MAYBE. SO I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO YOUR CONCERNS AND I MAKING THIS MOTION. BUT... [INDISCERNIBLE] DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> IF THERE'S ANY MITIGATION, THE CITY MANAGER BROUGHT UP ABOUT INCREASING IT IN FOUR SPOTS. ARE ANY-- ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVES? I'M NOT STATING THE AMENDMENT YET, BUT IF THERE IS ONE. IF THE DEVELOPER CAN LOOK AT ADDING ANOTHER SIX, EIGHT SPOTS THERE. NOT INCLUDING THE HOME DEPOT OR ANY CONTRACTUAL THIRD PARTIES, USING SOME INNOVATIVE DESIGNS ON-- NOT BUMPING INTO THE COVERAGE OR PARKING MATERIALS OR SERVICES. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN AMENDMENT THERE. >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, AT WORK WE CALL THEM FLOATING PARKS. BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY ADD MORE PARKING SPOTS BECAUSE YOU NEED DOUBLE PARKING PEOPLE. TO ADD MORE PARKING SPOTS, THE LOT ALMOST DOESN'T ALLOW THAT, TO ME. [02:50:01] BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED ANOTHER 20 FEET FOR THE PARKING SPOT, PLUS THE PARKING AUTHORITY, PLUS ANOTHER 30 FEET. YOU WOULD NEED-- WHAT WE COULD DO IS SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DETAIN, BUT TO ME, WE ARE CREATING SOME STUFF IN THERE. AND YOU COULD HELP BY SAYING YOU CAN ONLY GO THREE STORIES. BUT THEN YOU RUN INTO ISSUES. >> NO AMENDMENT. JUST MY CONCERNS, IF THAT CAN HELP LOOKING AT THAT. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. >> WE COULD TELL THEM TO TAKEOUT THAT TREE. >> I AM A BOY SCOUT AND THERE IS AN OVERABUNDANCE OF TREES ON THIS LOT AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE OUR CODE IS SAYING YOU HAVE TO BUILD-- EACH ONE OF THESE TREES IS GOING TO HAVE-- IF IT MAKES MATURITY, WHICH IT WILL NOT, WILL HAVE A 90 TO 100-FOOT CANOPY. SO WE ARE PLANTING THEM TWO TO EVERY 50 FEET. SO WE HAVE A WALL OF TREES THAT WILL NOT MATURE THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO. AND THEY WILL NOT BE AS HEALTHY. AND YOU CAN TAKEOUT ONE TREE. >> A COUPLE TREES ON THE NORTH SIDE. >> SOME OF THEM YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR-- A LITTLE CODE THAT EVERY SO MANY PARKING SPOTS YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ISLAND. BECAUSE I LOOK AT THIS AND GO HALF THESE TREES WILL NOT MAKE IT. AND WE LOOK BACK IN 20 YEARS, AND SOMEBODY WILL SEE THESE TREES. AND WHO KNOWS WHAT THE CODE WILL BE THEN. >> THAT IS ALL I HAVE. >> IS THERE A SECOND? DO YOU WANT TO TAKEOUT THAT ISLAND AND THAT TREE? I HAVE MY FORESTRY MERIT BADGE. PLEASE CALL E-VOTE. >> MAYOR SNYDER. >> COUNCILMEMBER WARNER. >> COUNCILMEMBER BARFIELD-- PORTERFIELD. IF YOU NEED ANY HELP WITH HOME DEPOT, WE ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET AHOLD OF OF THEM AS WELL ON ANOTHER MATTER. IF YOU GET A HOLD OF THEM. LET THEM KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF THEM AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. [10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS] NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEMS 101-3108 UP FOR CONSIDERATION. >> I DO NEED TO PULL 10.1. >> WE HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE CONTRACTOR... [INDISCERNIBLE] >> 10.1, 10.18-- SORRY 10.2. AND HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AT? OKAY. SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO READ IT UNLESS IT SPECIFICALLY BENEFITS HER AND NOT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? >> I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE SITUATION WAS, BUT SHE SIGNED THE AFFIDAVIT TO SUSTAIN. >> WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL IT, YOU JUST WON'T BE IN FOR THAT ITEM. >> I HAVE TO PULL IT. >> I'M SORRY. I'M THINKING OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT. >> JUST VOTING SEPARATELY. >> OTHER ITEMS, IF NOT, MOTION TO APPROVE 103-3108. SECOND? -- 10.3 THROUGH 10.8. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> ON ITEM 10.2, ONE OF THE THINGS-- SORRY, WE PULLED THAT ONE. >> I AM SORRY. MY MISTAKE. >> 10.2 GOT POSTPONED. >> MY MISTAKE. [10.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-126 awarding pavement milling and hauling project located on Brooklands Blvd entrance in the amount of $69,572.38, funded by the street maintenance and repair fund, to Bennett Paving, Inc. (Rick Coronado)] >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. 10.1, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE [02:55:07] ACTION ON RESOLUTION 2026-20-- 126, AWARDING PAVEMENT MILLING AND HAULING PROJECT LOCATED ON BROOKLYN'S BOULEVARD ENTRANCE IN THE AMOUNT OF 69,572.38. FUNDED BY THE STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR FUND TO BENNETT PAVING INC. MOTION TO APPROVE? MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON? ANY DISCUSSION? >> 101? >> MY CONCERN IS THAT 137, 1616 SOUTH WILL BE TWO YEARS. SO WHAT IS THE TIMING ON THE BROOKLYN? I'M LOOKING AT THIS, THE NOTICE TO PROCEED IS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN LESS THAN 45 DAYS. SO I'M NOT VOTING AGAINST THIS, I'M JUST SAYING HOW ARE WE COORDINATING, BECAUSE PEOPLE GOING NORTH OR SOUTH ON 137 HAVE A PROBLEM. HOW ARE WE COORDINATING THE SCOPE OF THAT? SO WE ARE NOT IMPACTING THINGS EVEN MORE? >> FOR THE RECORD I AM THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR. THIS WAS KIND OF A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND A CONTRACTOR TO DO THIS WORK. THE ITEM YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE CONTRACTOR RELATED WORK OF MILLING, WHICH IS EQUIPMENT WE DON'T HAVE AND SKILL SETS WE DON'T HAVE. THE CONTRACT ALSO IS A 45-DAY CONTRACT AND IT'S BROKEN UP IN TO TWO PHASES. ONE IS TO ALLOW AT LEAST HALF OF THE ROAD TO BE ACCESSIBLE. SO THEY WILL PERFORM THAT INITIAL WORK. THE CITY WILL COMPLETE THEIR WORK AND REOPEN THAT SIDE AND REMOBILIZE TO MAKE SURE THE-- IT COMES BACK TO MILLS AND HAULS OFF THAT PORTION OF THE ALTERNATE PATH. SO THERE IS CONTINGENTS HERE TO AT LEAST ALLOW TRAFFIC TO FLOW FREELY KNOWING THAT THERE IS OTHER PROJECTS IN THE AREA DURING THIS TIME FRAME. >> THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A TWO WAY FLOW. >> YES. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. [10.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-127 authorizing the City Manager to execute a change order #2 with Liberty Civil Construction, LLC for no additional cost and 110 additional days for the modifications to the Legend of Hutto Drainage Improvements Phase I project (CIP D01-2024). (Patricia Davis)] ITEM 10.2. WITH NO-- OBJECTIONS, WE WILL [11.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-026 amending Chapter 8 "Business Regulations" of the Code of Ordinances by the addition of Article 8.09 "Short Term Rentals" establishing regulations for short-term rentals. (Nick Angeli)] POSTPONE THAT TO JUNE 18TH. WE WILL GO TO 11.1. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE O-22 A 6-026, AMENDING CHAPTER EIGHT BUSINESS REGULATIONS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES BY THE ADDITION OF ARTICLE 8.09 SHORT-TERM RENTALS, ESTABLISHING REGULATIONS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS. >> NICK ANGELIQUE, MANAGEMENT FELLOW FOR THE RECORD. AT THE MARCH 5TH WORK SESSION, WE HAD DISCUSSED HOW IT'S ESTIMATED THERE IS ABOUT 70 SHORT-TERM RENTALS IN HUTTO RIGHT NOW. BUT LAST FISCAL YEAR, ONLY TWO OF THEM WERE ADMITTED-- REMITTED THEIR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. SO WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY HAD PASSED ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRE THESE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OPERATORS TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY. AND THIS JUST ALLOWS US TO HAVE A RECORD OF WHO IS OPERATING. AND THIS JUST MAKES IT EASIER TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE. IF WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE OPERATING WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS OUT THERE, THEN WE AREN'T ABLE TO DETERMINE WHO IS DELINQUENT ON THEIR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. SO COUNCIL HAD SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE BROUGHT BACK. AND THE ORDINANCE THAT WERE BRINGING BACK TODAY DOES REQUIRE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTIES TO REGISTER WITH THE CITY TO OPERATE. NO FEE OR INSPECTION IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO THIS PERMIT BEING ISSUED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THESE OPERATORS TO COMPLY WITH THIS ORDINANCE. AS WE DISCUSSED AT THE WORK SESSION, WE ARE RECOMMENDING SOFTWARE TO HELP WITH MONITORING COMPLIANCE WITH THIS ORDINANCE. AND THERE ARE THREE MODULES THAT WERE RECOMMENDING. THE FIRST IS A MODULE WITH GOV WELL. THAT'S WHO WE USE FOR OUR PERMITTING. AND THIS WOULD ALLOW OUR DEVELOP AN SERVICES DEPARTMENT EASILY ISSUE THESE PERMITS. [03:00:03] BASICALLY THE APPLICATIONS THAT PEOPLE WILL PUT IN FOR THE PERMIT IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. JUST THE CONTACT INFO FOR THE OWNERS SO SHOPPER OR. AND THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY. AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY. -- THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND OCCUPANTS THAT THE PROPERTY CAN ALLOW FOR. IF ALL THAT INFORMATION IS THEIR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WILL ISSUE THE PERMIT AND WE WILL HAVE A RECORD OF THAT PROPERTY AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHEN THEY HAVE NOT PAID THEIR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. THE SECOND SOFTWARE THAT HAS TWO MODULES TO IT. IS DECKARD. ONE THEIR BASE MODULE IS FOR ADDRESS IDENTIFICATION. AND THIS SOFTWARE ESSENTIALLY SPURRED-- SCRAPES, POOLS THE BOOKING DATA FROM MANY DIFFERENT WEBSITES. AIRBNB, VR BIDO, THEY ARE GREAT SOFTWARE BECAUSE THEY PULL FROM MANY DIFFERENT WEBSITES AND THEY CAN TELL US WHO IS OPERATING IN THE CITY. THAT WAY WE CAN PULL THE PERMIT DATA FROM GOD WELL IN TO DECKARD AND COMPARE WHO IS OPERATING AND WHO IS OPERATED WITHOUT A PERMIT. SO WE CAN SEND THAT TO CODE ENFORCEMENT. AND THEY CAN LET THEM KNOW THAT, HEY,, WE SEE YOU ARE OPERATING AND YOU DO NOT HAVE A PERMIT. THIS SAYS YOU DO NEED TO GET THE PERMIT TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE. THE SECOND MODULE, WITH DECKARD, IS A HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX PAYMENT PORTAL. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SENDING IN THEIR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX ARE SENDING IN PAPER CHECKS. SO ALLOWING THE OPERATORS TO GO ONLINE AND PAY BY CARD OR ACH OR WHATEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO WOULD PREVENT THEM FROM SENDING A PAPER CHECK AND IT WOULD PREVENT STAFF FROM NEEDING TO PROCESS THESE PAPER CHECKS SO FREQUENTLY. AND MAKE IT A QUICKER PROCESS FOR THE OPERATORS TO GET RECORD THAT THEY PAID AND HAVE EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY. ALSO, PART OF THE ORDINANCE IS IN A NOTIFICATION. AND BASICALLY, WHENEVER A PERMIT IS ISSUED, WE WOULD SEND OUT A SIMPLE LETTER TO ALL OF THE RESIDENCES WITHIN 400 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY CATCHES SAYING THAT THE PERMIT HAS BEEN ISSUED AND MAKING THEM AWARE OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL PROPERTY AND WE ESTIMATED THAT NEXT YEAR, ASSUMING THERE IS ABOUT 70 PROPERTIES THAT APPLY FOR A PERMIT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT $2300 IN POSTAGE. THAT WAS JUST USING THE COST OF POSTAGE STAMPS, ASSUMING THERE IS ABOUT 70 PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OPERATING SHORT-TERM RENTALS. AND WITHIN A 400-FOOT RADIUS OF ANY HOUSE IN HUTTO, GENERALLY THERE IS ABOUT 20 TO 40 RESIDENCES. SO WE USE THE UPPER END OF THAT. SO THAT WAS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE RIGHT THERE. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> I HAVE A COUPLE-- I HAVE A COUPLE. ONE JUST FOR TRASH. YOU HAVE OCCUPANCY 15. BUT THAT'S ONLY ADULTS. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CHILDREN IF IT'S OVER 16, STILL MINORS. BUT IS THERE ANY EXTRA REQUIREMENTS FOR BEING ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE TRASH? ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE EXTRA TRASH CAPACITY WHEN THEY ARE AT FULL OCCUPANCY? THE OTHER THING IS IS THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS-- I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE FAMILIES AND THERE. ALSO JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE. BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE TAX COLLECTION HOW IS IT ITEMIZE FOR RECORD. IF THEY CAN HAVE 15 PEOPLE IN THERE AND THEY ARE CHARGING WHATEVER IT IS, HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? AND DO YOU HAVE A NAME OF RECORD OF WHO IS OCCUPANT AND WHAT DATES THEY WERE THERE AND WHAT [03:05:02] RATES THEY HAVE? BECAUSE THE WAY IT READS IS IT ASSUMES A RIGHT TO WHAT IS MARKET CONDITIONS. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC RATE. SO DOES THE PROVIDER OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL, DO THEY TELL YOU WHAT THE RATES ARE? HOW DO WE TAKE ACCOUNTING THAT THEY HAVE TEN PEOPLE IN THERE AND THERE CHARGING $200 APIECE FOR TEN TO 20 DAYS OUT OF THE MONTH? I THINK THIS IS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. HOW DO WE DEVISE IN KEEPING TRACK OF THAT ACCOUNTING? >> YES. THE DECKARD SOFTWARE. THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO TELL US THE INFORMATION ON EACH BOOKING. THE NIGHTS THAT WE ARE BOOKED, THE AMOUNT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REMITTED. SO WE HAVE ALL OF THAT DATA. THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS TO THE SOFTWARE. AS FAR AS THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY GOES, A LOT OF THE ORDINANCES I WAS LOOKING AT HAD A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF TEN OR 12 PEOPLE. I MOVED IT UP TO 15 TO BE A LITTLE MORE LENIENT BECAUSE OF FAMILIES AND DEPENDING ON HOW MANY ROOMS THE HOUSE HAD. I DO NOT WANT TO DISCOURAGE LARGER FAMILIES FROM BEING ABLE TO RENT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL IN THE CITY. FOR THAT REASON. IF COUNCIL HAD OPINIONS ON RAISING THAT, STAFF WOULD BE HAPPY TO LISTEN TO THOSE. WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST QUESTION? >> IT WAS JUST TRASH. IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO BE SOLVED AT THIS MOMENT. BUT TAKING THAT IN TO ACCOUNT, IF YOU HAD A DOZEN PEOPLE THERE FOR TWO WEEKS, THE TRASH REQUIREMENTS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT THAN THREE ARE FOUR PEOPLE, FIVE PEOPLE IN A RESIDENTIAL HOME. MY TRASH FOOTPRINT IS TINY. IF YOU HAVE PEOPLE OUT OF TOWN, TRASH CAN GO UP AND UP. BUT THAT CAN'T BE SOLVED AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT. BUT BACK-- TO ME, THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS IS GOING TO BE ROOM DRIVEN. I'VE SEEN SOME PLACES WHERE YOU HAD A THREE BEDROOM AND TWO LIVING AREA DINING ROOMS, ALSO'S-- ALL OF A SUDDEN THE LIVING AND DINING ROOM AREA IS A BEDROOM WITH THREE PEOPLE IN FIVE ROOMS. THERE 015 PEOPLE. IT'S DESIGNED AS A THREE-BEDROOM HOME. ARE WE ENCOURAGING OR DISCOURAGING, OR DO WE WANT TO MONITOR THAT? I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT. >> I THINK 15 IS TOO HIGH. I DON'T WANT MY NEIGHBOR SUDDENLY HAVING 15 PEOPLE IN THE HOME ALL THE TIME. WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE PARKING ALL OVER OUR STREETS. SO I LIKE THE 12 NUMBER. THAT'S IN OUR COATS CURRENTLY. I DON'T LIKE SHORT-TERM RENTALS. IT'S TAKING A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, PEOPLE WANT TO BUY MAC HOMES WITH NEIGHBORS, NOT NEXT TO EIGHT GUYS THAT ARE OUTSIDE AND DRINKING BEER AND HAVING FUN, BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S KIND OF LIFE. SO THAT HAPPENS. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I BROUGHT THIS CONCEPT UP WAS WE DO GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE THAT CONTINUALLY HAVE STUFF LIKE THAT. SOMETIMES I DON'T WANT THE GOVERNMENT INVOLVED AT ALL AND OTHER TIMES WHEN IT PROTECTS ME AS A HOMEOWNER I WANT TO CRACK DOWN ON THESE PEOPLE. >> ONE LAST THING ABOUT INSPECTIONS, THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT NOTIFICATION. USUALLY WITH A RENTAL PROPERTY, YOU GET A 24-HOUR MAC NOTIFICATION AND YOU MUST PROVIDE PROPERTY FOR INSPECTION. THERE IS NOTIFICATION BUT NO TIME LIMIT. >> HE'S THE GOVERNMENT. HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU ANYTHING. >> THERE CAN BE INSPECTIONS, BUT IF THE CITY WANTS TO GO IN THERE FOR INSPECTION, MAYBE THERE'S TOO MUCH TRASH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WILL INSPECT THE PROPERTY INSIDE AND OUT. BUT IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NOTIFICATION TIME IN THERE. SO I THOUGHT WE WOULD ADD THAT. 24, 48. IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE NUMBERS. IT'S THAT WE HAVE ONE. >> TO ADDRESS THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANTS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED, BUT I HAD A THREE-BEDROOM HOUSE-- >> KEYS LIKE WE HAD 22 PEOPLE IN THERE. I THINK WE PUT 12-- >> I THINK WE PUT 12 PEOPLE IN THERE. AS LONG AS THERE WAS 12 BEDS IN THERE. PEOPLE WERE FINE WITH IT. I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD KEEP IT AT 15 OR RAISE OR LOWER IT. I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE HOUSE [03:10:02] WILL HAVE AN OCCUPANCY LEVEL. TWO, I THOUGHT WE HAD THAT MEETING ABOUT PARKING. IF YOU TALK ABOUT 15 PEOPLE, HE YOU DON'T WANT, TO YOUR .15 CARS LINED UP ON THE STREET. SO I THOUGHT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT PROVIDING SOME ON STREET PARKING LIMITED TO TWO OR WHATEVER IT WAS. >> THE DIRECTIVE WAS TO NOT WORRY ABOUT PARKING. >> THE REASON WAS WE-- >> ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT MY NEIGHBORS FOUR CARS, IS IT REGULAR FOUR CARS. IF IT'S NOT ENFORCEABLE, DON'T DO IT. BUT I RECOGNIZE YOUR CONCERN. ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S 15 CARS ON THE STREET. >> WHEN I HAD MY SHORT-TERM RENTAL WE MADE A PART OF OUR POLICY YOU CAN ONLY HAVE TWO CARS. SO FOR ME PERSONALLY, IF WERE TALKING ABOUT TRASH, I THINK THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL OWNER. THAT'S JUST HIS THING. BUT I THINK THAT HAVING OWNERS IS GREAT, WE NEED TO COLLECT THE HOT TAXES. BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE-- THE OWNERS HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF RESPONSIBILITY ON HAVING THESE THINGS. IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THEIR MAKING MONEY, THAT'S GREAT. BUT RESPONSIBILITIES GO ALONG WITH THAT. YOU CANNOT LET YOUR TRASH STACK UP. YOU CAN'T HAVE 20 CARS PARKED IN THE STREET. >> THEY CAN. UP WERE NOT ENFORCING PARKING. AND WITH THAT QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE NOTIFICATION TO NEIGHBORS WHEN SOMEBODY FILES. HOW WILL WE MANAGE THAT. RIGHT OUT HAPPENS BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS IT'S HAPPENING. YOU MAYBE WONDERING WHY YOUR NEIGHBOR ALWAYS HAS 75 CARS PARKED ALL AROUND. WE MAY SUSPECT THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES THAT HAPPEN. AND IN THE APPROVALS, PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MANY CARS ARE PARKED AROUND THE HOUSE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT AND THEY PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. AND IT'S NOT ONE HOUSE. THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. BUT WHEN YOU GIVE NEIGHBORS NOTIFICATION, THAT HOUSE WILL POP UP IN THEIR SHORT-TERM RENTAL, WHAT ABOUT NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T WANT THAT? HOW DO WE MITIGATE THAT AS A CITY? HOW DO WE ENFORCE IT? DO WE GET INVOLVED? DO THE NEIGHBORS DUKE IT OUT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WE NOW THAT WE ARE FORCIBLY IDENTIFYING THOSE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND DAMPERS ARE GOING TO SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WILL THEY GO DOWN TO THEIR HOA AT THAT POINT? HOW DO THEY DECIDE? DO WE HAVE A ROLE IN THAT OR NOT? >> MANY HOA'S HAVE RULES THAT SAY YOU CANNOT HAVE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. >> BUT PEOPLE STILL DO IT ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TELL ANYBODY. SO IF WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THEM TO BE NOTIFIED. >> I THINK WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS YOU KNOW THAT A PERSON'S VIOLATING SOMETHING BUT THEY TELL YOU TO POUND SAND. SO WHAT DO YOU DO ON THE HOA? SO YOU GO AND SPEAK TO THE HOMEOWNER AND THEY SAY NO THAT'S NOT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. I HAVE A BIG FAMILY. IF I REMEMBER FROM OUR MEETING, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY-- I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU CAN JUST NOT ALLOW SOME OF THE STUFF TO HAPPEN. BUT YOU CAN ALLOW-- YOU CAN KIND OF START TO REGULATE IT. AND WHAT WE CAN DO IS ALL OF A SUDDEN GO, HEY, WHEN WE HAVE ISSUES WE CAN GO INSPECT. SO I THINK IT'S A GOVERNMENT ISSUE. IF YOUR WAY UP NORTH YOU HAVE LAWS. AND IF THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T PUT THOSE SAME LAWS TO THEMSELVES, 20 MINUTE NOTICE. I THINK WE CAN HAVE CODE INSPECTORS COME IN, NICK WILL WRITE THE SOFTWARE HE'LL SAY THAT'S A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THERE NOT DOING IT, THEN DOLLAR LICENSE GETS REVOKED BECAUSE ARE NOT PAYING THEIR TAXES. AND FROM THERE I WOULD ASSUME THAT IT'S AN ENFORCEMENT ACTION BY THE CITY ATTORNEY TO GO YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO OPERATE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND WERE NOT GIVING YOU A PERMIT BECAUSE YOU GET COMPLAINTS. YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES OR ORDINANCES. SO I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC CAN JUST SAY I DON'T WANT IT. BUT IF THEY DON'T OPERATE IN THE MANNER THE CITY IS PROPOSING THEM TO OPERATE, THEN WE COULD REVOKE IT. >> YOU'RE SAYING IF THE-- THE NEIGHBORS CAN'T STOP IT FROM HAPPENING. BUT WE COULD PUT IN GUARDRAILS TO WEAR IF THAT BUSINESS IS VIOLATING THE ORDINANCE THEN THEY CAN BE REVOKED. >> VIOLATING NOISE OR CREATING A [03:15:07] NUISANCE YOU BE LOOKING AT THAT, IF YOU HAD A PROPERTY THAT CREATED A LOT OF PLACE CALLS FOR NOISE OR WHATEVER ELSE, IT COULD RANK UP THERE IS A NUISANCE TYPE PROPERTY. >> AGAIN, I LIKE IT. AND I HAVE ONE. AND WE DID WELL. WE DID WELL. BUT EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING WE DID. WE TOLD THEM WE ARE GOING TO BE A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS AT THE TENANTS LET US KNOW. HERE'S MY PHONE NUMBER. WE DID EVERYTHING PROACTIVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NEIGHBORS HAD BUY AWFUL AND THAT THEY KNEW IT WOULD BE AND THEY WERE HELPING US. SO I'M HOPING THAT THIS ORDINANCE KIND OF CREATES THAT TYPE OF A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU'RE NOT OUT THERE TRYING TO HIDE IT. YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE EXTRA INCOME OR WHATEVER. BUT YOU'RE ALSO NOT HURTING ANYONE AS WELL. >> THERE'S ANOTHER INFLUENCE. CORPORATE AMERICA IS BUYING UP ALL REAL ESTATE PICKLE PROPERTIES. IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD I WOULD SAY 40% OR SO OUR CORPORATE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 50 PERCENT, ALMOST 1000 HOMES, PROBABLY AROUND A THIRD OF THE HOMES ARE RENTALS. OUT OF THOSE AT LEAST 40 OR 50% OF THOSE ARE CORPORATE. SO I'M WORRIED ABOUT HAVING TEN RESIDENCES AND ONE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THEY ARE ALL DOING TEN, 12, 15 PEOPLE AND IT'S A CASH MACHINE AND THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS. >> WHAT AUSTIN DID, AUSTIN HAD-- I MAYBE WRONG, BUT AUSTIN HAD RULES WHERE YOU CANNOT OWN MORE THAN ONE PROPERTY. SO IT SLOWS AND MITIGATES A LITTLE BIT OF YOU TRYING TO MAKE IT AN AIRBNB. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN DISTANCES. >> WE DID THE SAME THING. EARLY IN SHORT-TERM RENTALS WHEN I HAD RESIDENTS LIVING IN A PARTNER AT THE TIME. JUST THE GARAGE. >> THAT WAS THE INITIAL INTENT OF AIRBNB. >> IT WAS $1000 PER WEEK. FOR A BEDROOM, KITCHEN, LAUNDRY. ALWAYS GARAGE IN THE BACK PART. THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WEEK. FIVE YEARS AGO. >> THIS COULD BE A BETTER ORDINANCE. BUT I WOULD SUGGEST WE PASS IT LIKE IT IS. WITH THE THOUGHT BEING AS BC OTHER THINGS COME UP WE HAVE TO REAPPLY EVERY YEAR, WE CAN AMEND THE ORDINANCE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW AND THEN THEY COME UP FOR RENEWAL. YOU GUYS HAVE MORE REQUIREMENTS. IT'S LIKE OH. WELL. TALK TO THE OTHER AIRBNB COMMUNITY MEMBERS. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF RESIDENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DIFFERENT SIZES. AND THE OTHER THING, I THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE THE NUMBER. WE ARE TALKING 15 TO 12. AND ONE LAST THING IS THE APPEALS. THE APPEALS PROCESS SAYS IF THERE'S ANY DENIALS ARE REPLICATIONS THEY CAN APPEAL TO THE CITY MANAGER WITHIN TEN BUSINESS DAYS. BUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT? WHAT'S THE APPEALS PROCESS? I THINK WE WOULD APPEAL TO THE CITY MANAGER. WHAT IS THE CITY MANAGER TRYING TO DO? >> HE WOULD REVIEW THE APPEAL FROM THE OPERATOR. EXPLAINING-- THEM EXPLAINING WHY THEY THINK THAT THE DECISION WAS INCORRECT, AND THE CITY MANAGER WOULD MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. >> APPEALING TO THE CITY MANAGER IN THE CITY MANAGER HAS FILED IT'S-- FINAL DECISION. SO TEN BUSINESS DAYS AND THEN ANOTHER TEN DAYS AND THEY WOULD GET A RESPONSE. >> YOU MADE A GOOD POINT. WE SHOULD ASK A BIT MORE ABOUT RB GOING TO PUT A LIMIT ON-- A PERCENTAGE OF HOW MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE CLASSIFIED THAT WAY? >> WHATEVER IT IS, WE START BIG. OR START SMALL AND EXPAND. IF YOU'RE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A THOUSAND HOMES AND YOU HAVE FOUR OF THESE IN THEIR, YOU'RE JUST AN INDIVIDUAL, I'M A NEIGHBOR. OTHER THAN THAT, IT SEEMS TO BE INDUSTRIALIZATION. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE, JUST SAYING THE GUARDRAILS, AS YOU SAID. WAS THE LIMIT? IS IT 1000 FEET? NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DIFFERENT SIZES. >> AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DO IT. BUT YOU PROBABLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT AS WELL. AS HUTTO GROWS AND BECOMES MORE OF A DESTINATION PLACE, WHICH WE ALL WANT, WE WILL HAVE MORE [03:20:03] PEOPLE WANTING TO CONVERT THEIR HOMES. BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT WAY TO MAKE ADDITIONAL INCOME. BUT WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE? HOW DO WE PROTECT THEIR INTEREST OR THEIR PROPERTY VALUES? WHAT OTHER CONCERNS WILL COME UP WITH THEM INCLUDING PARKING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? OR POSSIBLE NUISANCE. WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT RENTING OUT THEIR HOMES. >> WE HAVE A NOTICE AT 400 FEET. TO WE HAVE MAXIMUM PARKING? >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ONE THING THAT COMES UP SOMETIMES IS THAT PEOPLE WILL SET THESE UP FOR SPECIAL EVENTS. IT'S NOT A FULL-TIME THING, THEY MAY HAVE IT ON FOR A FEW MONTHS OR SOMETHING. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE SOME HUGE EVENT. SXSW IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENS, OR THE COTTON BOWL IN DALLAS. PEOPLE PARK IN THE FRONT YARDS. RIGHT? THAT KIND OF THING HAPPENS. AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT IT'S A FULL-TIME THING. I WILL ALSO SAY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AT THE WORKSHOP BEFORE ON THE CORPORATE RENTALS, WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING, ABOUT HOW THEY WORK OPERATING IN THE BOARDING HOUSES ARE RUNNING OUT, THAT MIGHT BE A ZONING ISSUE WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. BECAUSE MANY ARE TREATING IT AS A BOARDING HOME. NOT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. I DON'T KNOW THE SITUATIONS THEY ARE. THOSE ARE HARD TO PROVE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON. BUT IF YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE TEN OR 12 CARS PARKING THERE EVERY DAY, AND A HOUSE THAT YOU KNOW IS A THREE-BEDROOM HOME OR SOMETHING, YOU MAY HAVE JUST GOTTEN-- I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GO INTO THAT. BUT THAT MAYBE A DIFFERENT ISSUE THAN OUR TYPICAL SHORT-TERM RENTAL. BUT IF WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT ALLOWS FOR TEN, 12, 15 PEOPLE TO BE IN A HOME, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU MAY NOT WANT IT TO BE EVERY HOME THERE. BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW IT WORKS OUT. YOU CAN PASS THIS AND DEMANDED NEXT MEETING IF THAT'S WHAT YOUR DIRECTION IS. THAT'S UP TO YOU. YOU CAN AMEND IT HERE. CERTAIN DIRECTIONS, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE WAY IT IS. OR WE CAN WAIT UNTIL NEXT MEETING. >> I AM OKAY WITH MAKING SOME MINOR ADJUSTMENTS NOW. THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE SAID AND LETTING YOU MASSAGE IT. BRING IT BACK TO US WITH OUTLOOKS. I'M OKAY WITH THAT. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 02026-026. AS PRESENTED WITH A CHANGE TO THE MAXIMUM NUMBER FROM 15 TO 12. >> SECOND. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. APPROVAL OF THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CHANGE TO BE 12. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, CALLED THE VOTE? [12.1. Discussion and possible action in consideration of purchasing a mural created at Mural Fest in the amount of $15,000, using Hotel Occupancy Tax funds. (Hutto Arts Today - Elizabeth Bonura)] >> MOTION PASSES 6-1. NEXT ITEM 12.1, DISCUSSION OF POSSIBLE ACTION AND CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASING A MURAL COSTING $15,000 USING HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. ELIZABETH? >> I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO KEEP GOING. I THOUGHT WE'D BE OUT OF HERE AND LIKE AN HOUR AND IT'S LIKE 10:30. >> LET END ON THIS NOTE. RIGHT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH. WITH HUTTO ARTS TODAY. AND I'M HERE TO DISCUSS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, THE PROPOSAL REGARDING THE MENDOZA MURAL CURRENTLY DISPLAYED AT THE GYM. BEFORE I TALK ABOUT THE MURAL ITSELF I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED WHILE IT WAS BEING CREATED DURING THE HUTTO MURAL FESTIVAL. SO WE FINALLY HAD OUR FESTIVAL. OUR FIRST ONE. AND I WANT YOU TO SEE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. SO THE HUTTO MURAL FESTIVAL WAS DESIGNED TO BRING ART, CULTURE AND TOURISM TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND THIS MURAL BECAME THE CENTERPIECE OF THAT EXPERIENCE. AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE OUT THERE AND GOT TO SEE IT. IT IS AMAZING. AS YOU SEE IN THESE PHOTOS, PEOPLE DID NOT JUST WALK PASS THIS MURAL. THEY STOPPED, THEY WATCHED, THEY ASKED QUESTIONS, THEY TOOK PICTURES, THEY BROUGHT FRIENDS AND FAMILY OVER TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. [03:25:02] CHILDREN STOOD AND WATCHED THE ARTISTS WORK. ARTIST GATHERED AND TALKED ABOUT THE ARTWORK AND LEARNED ABOUT THE PROCESS. VISITORS EXPLORED WHILE THEY WERE THERE. WE HAD PEOPLE COME IN FROM ALL DIFFERENT CITIES SPECIFICALLY TO SEE THIS MURAL BEEN CREATED. THE MURAL BECAME AN ATTRACTION BEFORE IT WAS EVEN FINISHED. AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT GREAT PUBLIC ART DOES. IT CREATES EXPERIENCES, IT CREATES CONVERSATIONS. IT CREATES MEMORIES. IT GIVES PEOPLE A REASON TO STOP, GATHER AND ENGAGE WITH A PLACE WHAT THE CITY HAS BEFORE IT TODAY IS NOT SIMPLY A PAINTED PANEL. IS AN ORIGINAL WORK OF ART CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR HUTTO BY FLOYD MENDOZA. A NATIONAL RECOGNIZED MURAL ARTIST WHO WORK CAN BE FOUND AROUND AND BEYOND. ARTISTS OF THIS CALIBER ARE SOUGHT AFTER BECAUSE THEIR WORK BECOMES PART OF THE COMMUNITIES DEDICATION. THIS MURAL TELLS THE HUTTO STORY. IT CELEBRATES OUR RAILROAD HERITAGE, OUR GROWTH AND SENSE OF COMMUNITY. IT WAS CREATED IN PUBLIC VIEW, ALLOWING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS TO WITNESS THE CREATIVE PROCESS AND BECOME PART OF THE STORY BEHIND THE ARTWORK. THAT STORY BELONGS TO HUTTO. ONE OF THE MOST COMPELLING PARTS OF THIS PROPOSAL IS THE ARTWORK ALREADY EXISTS. THE MURAL HAS ALREADY BEEN CREATED. THE COMMUNITY HAS EMBRACED IT. THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. THE EXCITEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN GENERATED. AND TODAY IT, THE CITY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE SOMETHING THAT WAS CREATED AS A TEMPORARY FESTIVAL ATTRACTION AND TRANSFORM IT IN TO A PERMANENT PART OF THE HUTTO LANDSCAPE. AT THE MOMENT THE MURAL IS TEMPORARILY DISPLAYED AT THE GYM. VISITORS CAN SEE IT, PHOTOGRAPH IT AND ENJOY IT TODAY. HOWEVER, WITHOUT A PERMANENT HOME, THAT OPPORTUNITY MAYBE SHORT-LIVED. THIS PROPOSAL ALLOWS THE CITY TO TRANSFORM A TEMPORARY INSTALLATION IN TO A PERMANENT PUBLIC ARTWORK. ONE THAT WILL CONTINUE WELCOMING RESIDENTS AND VISITORS LONG AFTER THIS FESTIVAL HAS ENDED. THE PROPOSAL FULFILLS THE ORIGINAL PURPOSE OF THE HUTTO FUND ALLOCATION. THE MURAL CONTRIBUTES TO TOURISM, IT CONTRIBUTES TO PLACE MAKING. IT ENHANCES THE CO-OP DISTRICT. IT CREATES A LASTING CULTURAL ASSET RESIDENTS AND VISITORS CANNED-- CAN ENJOY LONG AFTER THE FESTIVAL HAS ENDED. THE IMPACT OF THOSE FUNDS DOES NOT HAVE TO END AFTER THAT EVENT ENDS. THE ARTWORK ALLOWS THE INVESTMENT TO CONTINUE TO BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME. AS HUTTO CONTINUES TO GROW, PUBLIC ART WILL HELP DEFINE WHO WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY. THE PLACES PEOPLE REMEMBER ARE THE PLACES THAT INVEST IN CREATING MEMORABLE EXPERIENCES. THIS MURAL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BECOME ONE OF THOSE PLACES. WHEN PEOPLE VISIT HUTTO, WE WANT THEM TO DISCOVER THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO OUR CITY. WE WANT THEM TO TAKE PHOTOS. WE WANT THEM TO SHARE THOSE PHOTOS. WE WANT THEM TO TELL OTHERS ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE HERE. PUBLIC ART HELPS MAKE THAT HAPPEN WHAT MAKES THIS OPPORTUNITY ESPECIALLY UNIQUE IS THAT THIS MURAL WAS CREATED DURING HUTTO'S FIRST MURAL FESTIVAL. HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE WATCHED IT COME TO LIFE. THEY FOLLOWED IT'S PROGRESS, THEY SHARED IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY CELEBRATED IT THIS MERRELL IS MORE THAN JUST PAINT ON A SURFACE. IT REPRESENTS A MOMENT IN HUTTO'S HISTORY. THE OPPORTUNITY BEFORE US TODAY IS NOT SIMPLY TO RESERVE A MURAL. IT'S TO TAKE A TEMPORARY INSTALLATION THAT HAS ALREADY PROVEN IT'S VALUE AND MAKE IT A PERMANENT PART OF HUTTO'S STORY. THE CITY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE THIS ARTWORK, PRESERVE THE LEGACY OF HUTTO'S FIRST MURAL FESTIVAL AND ESTABLISH A LASTING PUBLIC ART DESTINATION THAT RESIDENTS AND VISITORS CAN ENJOY FOR YEARS TO COME. ANY QUESTIONS? >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THANK YOU, I ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH, I THOUGHT IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL EVENT AND EVERYONE THAT CAME TOGETHER TO DO IT, YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR A GREAT EVENT AND IT WAS WELL RECEIVED. ALL THE THINGS YOU SET OUR TRUE. MY QUESTION IS, AND I WAS NOT PART OF THE BEGINNING OF IT, I THOUGHT WHEN I SAW WE ALREADY OWNED IT AS A CITY, AS PART OF [03:30:01] OUR INVESTMENT IN THE FESTIVAL SOMEONE NEEDS TO WALK ME THROUGH THAT. $50,000. IT'S NOT A LOT, BUT IT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY. FOR ART THAT I WRONGFULLY ASSUMED WHEN I FIRST SAW IT, THAT WE ALREADY OWNED AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS BEING PAINTED. >> YOU SAID IN YOUR SPEECH THAT IT NOW BELONGS TO HUTTO. >> TEMPORARILY. IT BELONGS TO HUTTO ARTS TODAY. IT'S THERE. BASICALLY WERE ASKING IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT HERE, WE WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE IT OTHERWISE WERE GOING TO MOVE IT. >> WHO DOES IT BELONG TO RIGHT NOW? >> HUTTO ARTS. >> WHERE IS HUTTO ARTS TODAY? >> IT'S A LOCAL NONPROFIT. >> WHERE IN THE CITY? >> THE PITCH WE HAD BEFORE, AS I REMEMBER, WAS WE NEED $68,000 AND WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS, WE ARE GOING TO DO ALL THIS STUFF, WE ARE GOING TO PAINT THIS STUFF, IT'S GOING TO BRING PEOPLE IN. WE ARE GOING TO DO ALL OF THIS. AND IT IS GOING TO BE HERE. >> WE COULD POSSIBLY MOVE IT AROUND TO DIFFERENT PLACES. THOSE DECISIONS HAVE NOT BEEN-- >> BUT HERE'S WHAT WE SAY. I PAID IT. IT'S HOURS. AND IF THE IDEAS THAT WE JUST GAVE YOU GUYS $45,000. >> YOU DIDN'T. >> HOW MUCH DID WE GIVE YOU. >> RIGHT NOW ZERO. >> HOW MUCH WOULD WE GIVE YOU IF WE DID THAT? >> LESS THAN 8000. >> SO WE'RE GIVING YOU $8000 TOTAL FOR THESE WHOLE-- THE WHOLE THING. WIDE ADDRESS FOR SO MUCH MONEY. >> WE WANTED TO HAVE NINE OF THESE. AND WE WANTED TO MAKE IT A HUGE EVENT. >> THAT CHANGES SOMETHING FOR ME. BUT AGAIN. >> WE HAD TO SCALE DOWN. AND THAT'S WHY THIS BECAME THE CENTERPIECE OF THE EVENT. >> SO YOU GUYS WERE IN THE 60 SOMETHING THOUSAND RANGE? SO IT'S EIGHT. BUT IT'S NOT THE MONEY FOR ME. IT'S THE PRINCIPLE. WE TOOK TAXPAYER MONEY, WE SAID WE WANT TO HELP WITH THIS. AND TO HELP WITH THIS YOU GUYS CREATED SOMETHING GREAT. AND YOU'RE LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO STAY IN HUTTO PAY US $15,000. AND I'M LIKE OKAY. >> BUT YOU GUYS HAVEN'T-- WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY. >> I HEAR YOU. AND MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T TURNED IN RECEIPTS, ACCOUNTING IS SLOW, WHATEVER. BUT THE PRINCIPLE IS THAT WE ARE PAYING YOU MONEY AND THE THOUGHT PROCESSES THAT WHAT MY PERSON WILL BE IS THAT ANYTHING CREATED IN THE EVENT WITH THE MONEY WE GIVE YOU IS NOW OWNERSHIP OF HUTTO, BECAUSE OTHERWISE EVERYONE WILL WANT MONEY TO SAY ALL TELL YOU A GREAT THING. ALL GIVE YOU MY RECEIPTS FOR $40,000 AND I'LL CHARGE YOU FOR WHAT I DID. NOBODY DOES THAT. >> I WOULD SAY THAT WE PUT IT ON A PERMANENT WALL. AND IT STAYS WHERE IT IS PAINTED. >> YOU DIDN'T CATCH MY POINT. FOR ME ANYTIME TAXPAYER DOLLARS GOES OUT THEY WANT SOMETHING BACK. IF I SAY IT GOES OUT AND WE HELPED FUND IT, AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT WE HAVE TO PAY AGAIN, I THINK I FEEL SNICKERED A BIT. WE SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT IN FIRST THING TO SAY WE WILL HELP PAY FOR IT. BUT WE WANT TO KEEP IT. I THOUGHT THIS THING WOULD BE GOING INTO CITY HALL. THE LIBRARY. ALL THESE THINGS. NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME IF WE DON'T PAY $15,000 HE'LL YANK IT AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE. IT'S A COOL THING. YOU COULD PROBABLY SELL IT. >> IT'S WORTH $20,000. >> REALLY? >> IT'S ABOUT THE CALIBER OF THE ARTIST. >> I'M NOT AN ART GUY. WHEN I HEAR 15,000 AND I DROVE BY IT I THOUGHT, REALLY? >> ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU WATCH THEM CREATE IT. >> I'M ASSUMING WE DON'T HAVE VIDEO OF HIM-- WE DON'T HAVE A FULL VIDEO THAT WE COULD TIME-LAPSE OF HIM CREATING IT. >> I DON'T HAVE THE COOL VIDEO. BUT WE DO HAVE DRONE FOOTAGE OF WHILE HE WAS CREATING IT. >> I THINK I'M WITH YOU, MAYOR. I THOUGHT WE WERE HELPING WITH THIS MONEY TO BRING ARTISTS IN TO HUTTO TO CREATE MURALS. >> BECAUSE WE DID NOT HAVE THEM ON PERMANENT WALLS IT WAS NOT A PERMANENT PEACE. >> BESIDES THAT, I THOUGHT WE [03:35:03] WERE PROVIDING FUNDS TO BRING ARTISTS TO HUTTO TO CREATE MURALS. >> WHICH WE DID. SO MEET-- WE ONLY BROUGHT IN ONE. GOT IT. SO THAT'S WHERE I THINK I SEE YOUR POINT. IF YOU PAY THE MONEY TO BRING THEM IN, DIDN'T WE JUST PAY THEM TO COME HERE? SO IT'S LIKE-- ARE SAYING THAT I HIRED A PHOTOGRAPHER TO COME TAKE PICTURES BUT NOW HAVE TO BUY THE PICTURES. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. THAT'S HOW IT WORKS. >> I WOULD NOT HIRE HIM AGAIN. >> YOU PAY FOR THE PICTURES TO BE TAKEN AND THEN YOU PAY FOR YOUR PRINTS. >> SO YOU SAY RIGHT NOW THAT MERRILL, THAT PICTURE BELONGS TO THE HUTTO ARTS-- TODAY, WHERE ARE THEY LOCATED? >> IT'S A GROUP OF NONPROFITS. >> GOT IT. SO IT'S IN HUTTO. >> IT'S RIGHT THERE. >> BUT YOU WANT THE CITY TO BUY IT TO PUT IT RIGHT WHERE IT IS? >> IF THE CITY WANTS TO PURCHASE IT THEN WE REMOVE IT FROM BEING A TEMPORARY INSTALLATION LIKE IT IS AND ACTUALLY YOU CAN INSTALL IT RIGHT UP WHERE I PROPOSE IT IS RIGHT NOW. YOU CAN ATTACH A TO THE WALL OF THE GYM AND IT BECOMES A PERMANENT INSTALLATION. >> IF WE DECIDE NOT TO BUY IT, WHERE DOES IT GO? >> THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED. WE WILL DISMANTLE IT AND PROBABLY AUCTION IT OFF. >> THE $15,000, PART OF IT'S FOR THE ARTWORK WE AND THE ARTISTS WORK. BUT PART OF IT IS THE MOUNTING, WEATHERIZING IT, PERMANENTLY MOUNTING IT. DO WE HAVE SOME BREAKDOWN OF THOSE COSTS? WHAT'S GOING FOR THE ARTS WORK AS LABOR AND MATERIALS AND TIMES, EXPERTISE. WHAT PORTION OF THAT IS TO ACTUALLY FIX IT TO THE WALL. IT'S A WEST FACING, AS WE ALWAYS GET OUR COLD-WEATHER. FROM THE NORTHWEST WE WILL BE FLATTERED BY WIND, AND RAIN. AND HAIL. >> I THINK 15,000 IS FOR THE ARTS. IF YOU WANT TO MOUNTED YOU HAVE TO PAY EXTRA. >> I THINK IT'S FOR THAT AND SUPPORTING IT'S PERMANENT PLACEMENT. >> YOU CAN MOVE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE. >> IN ADDITION. SO THERE IS MORE THAN $15,000. >> BUT I DID SUGGEST, LIKE I SAID, THE-- WE HAD APPLIED FOR THE FUNDS AND WE REQUESTED A MUCH GRANDER AMOUNT THAN WHAT WE SPENT. SO I SUGGEST THAT WHAT WE DID NOT SPEND CAN BE REALLOCATED TO PURCHASE THIS, AND THEY ARE STILL LEFT OVER FROM WHAT WAS MEANT TO GO. I AM JUST SAYING THAT MONEY WAS ALLOCATED AND WERE NOT TAKING MONEY FROM THE OTHER FUNDS. IT'S FROM THE FUNDS FOR PUBLIC ART. FOR TOURISM. FROM THINGS THAT WILL HELP BENEFIT AND BRING PEOPLE IN. THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE THAT IS ALREADY CREATED AND WILL DO THAT. >> THIS 15,000 WILL BE PAID TO THE NONPROFIT? >> THE NONPROFIT. >> AND HOW ARE THOSE FUNDS? >> WHAT WOULD WE USE THOSE FUNDS FOR? >> NEXT YEAR'S MERRILL FEST? >> THAT'S A HUGE PART OF IT. THAT'S RIGHT. >> THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU MONEY NEXT YEAR. >> THAT WAS THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK, HOW MUCH OF THAT INVESTMENT WAS TO REPEAT THAT AGAIN? THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART. >> IT'S AN INVESTMENT. >> WHEN YOU FRAME IT THAT WAY, IT'S DIFFERENT. FOR ME IT'S HARD, I DO LOVE IT, I WANT TO SEE MORE ART, I'D LOVE MERRILL ART AND WE GO DO PHOTOGRAPHS WITH THE KIDS IN GEORGETOWN AND AUSTIN. IT IS A SIGNIFICANT THING. BUT I ALSO SHARE THE COUNCILOR FRUSTRATION THAT WE DID NOT OWN IT ALREADY. HOWEVER, IF IT CAN BE JUSTIFIED TO WHERE YOU GET THESE GUYS TO AGREE AND WE ARE GOING TO PURCHASE IT, THAT WE KNOW THAT THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT IS THAT NEXT YEAR'S MERRILL FEST IS ALREADY PAID FOR. >> I WOULD SAY IT'S PAID FOR, OR [03:40:02] A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF IT. >> AT LEAST AT THE LEVEL THAT THIS YEARS WAS. YOU SAID YOU SPENT ABOUT 8000. >> AND WE COULD HOPEFULLY GET ON PERMANENT WALLS. >> SO IF I'M FOLLOWING, WE SAY IF WE GET THE CONSENSUS TO BUY THIS FOR 15,000, NEXT YEAR WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPECT-- THAT WILL HAVE ANOTHER MERRILL AT THIS CALIBER. BECAUSE IT COSTS ABOUT $8000. I THINK IT'S HARD BUT FAIR. BUT WE WILL SEE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBERS THINK. >> THE 8000 IS FAIR? I'M ASSUMING IT'S 8000 PLUS-- >> SHE WAS SAYING IF WE DO SEE THIS AS AN INVESTMENT INTO NEXT YEAR'S MERRILL FEST, AT MINIMUM... TAXPAYERS. WHY ARE THEY GIVING THEM $15,000. WHILE WE GAVE THEM 7000 FOR THE ART AND WE ARE INVESTED IN NEXT YEAR'S EVENT IN ADVANCE. BUT IT IS THIS CALIBER. >> I LIKE THE IDEA OF AUCTIONING IT OFF AND USING IT AS A FUND-RAISER. >> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IF YOU GUYS DO NOT WANT TO PURCHASE IT. >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GET 15. BUT YOU COULD GET SOMEBODY IN AUSTIN. THEY MIGHT PAY 25. I DON'T KNOW. >> HE'S DONE MURALS FOR THEM. FOR OTHER CITIES. >> IT WAS INSURED FOR 15,000. THEY GOT THEIR NUMBER FROM THEIR. >> FOR NEXT YEAR, IS HE COMING BACK? >> HE WANTS TO. >> OKAY. AND WILL WE GET OTHER PEOPLE TO COME BACK WE. >> WE CAN DO THAT. >> YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO BE PERMANENTLY AFFIXED SOMEWHERE NEXT YEAR, RATHER THAN TEMPORARY. HAVE THERE BEEN TALKS TO WORKING IN BUSINESSES WHO HAVE SPACE FOR A MURAL? BECAUSE THEY COULD PAY TO JUST PUT IT UP ON THEIR WALL. >> THEY COULD. >> BECAUSE I AGREE. THAT THING IS AWESOME. >> TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT STRAIGHT ON YOUR WALL FOR A REGULAR CIRCUMSTANCE WILL MOST LIKELY BE 25,000 OR MORE. BECAUSE OF HIS LEVEL OF EXPERTISE. THAT IS WHERE WHEN YOU HOST MERRILL FESTIVALS YOU DO GET TO GET THESE GUYS TO COME IN AND THEY ARE VERY EXCITED BECAUSE THEY GET TO DO SOMETHING OF THEIR OWN AND IT'S A COMMUNITY EVENT. THEY REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING TOGETHER. SO YOU CAN GET THEIR AMAZING ARTWORK AT A MORE AFFORDABLE PRICE. ALSO BECAUSE IT IS GOING TO BE AN INVESTMENT, WHAT TYPE OF PRESERVATION GOES WITH IT? I KNOW YOU SAID ONCE WE PURCHASE IT, IF YOU PURCHASE IT IT'S UP TO US. BUT I DON'T LIKE THAT. WE ARE SAYING WE WILL PURCHASE THIS ITEM BECAUSE HE WANTED IN PERPETUITY. HOW LONG WILL IT LAST, HOW PROTECTED IS IT NOW. WHAT MATERIAL IS IT ON. >> I THINK IT WILL LAST SEVERAL YEARS. BUT WE CAN CONTACT SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLACES THAT REALLY DO THIS A LOT. I BELIEVE THAT WE JUST NEED TO PUT A NICE UV COATING ON IT AND IT WILL BE GOOD FOR A WILD. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT A WHILE IS. BUT IT IS AT LEAST SEVERAL YEARS. I BELIEVE THAT ONCE PROTECTED PROPERLY AND PUT IN A PLACE LIKE MOST MERRILL'S, OUTSIDE-- >> THIS IS NOT A 15,000-DOLLAR INVESTMENT. IT'S THE WEATHERIZATION, THE MOUNTING. PROTECTING IT FROM THE NORTHWEST WIND. MECHANICAL. >> YOU COULD PUT IT IN CITY HALL AND LEAVE IT INSIDE. >> THE COST IS PROBABLY A MINIMUM OF 5K ON TOP OF THAT. >> WHICH IS STILL IN THE FUNDS. >> I DON'T THINK WE CAN USE IT FOR THAT. >> I THINK YOU CAN. THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR. >> LET ME ASK THAT. CAN BE BUY ART WITH HOT FUNDS? >> I ANTICIPATED THIS QUESTION. [03:45:01] I CAN REDO THE STATUTE IF YOU WANT. THE ENCOURAGEMENT PROMOTION IMPROVEMENT AND APPLICATION OF THE ARTS INCLUDING INSTRUMENTAL OF THE VOCAL MUSIC, DANCE, TRAUMA, FOLK ART KAKI-- CREATIVE FOR WRITING, DESIGN AND ARCHITECTURAL FIELDS CAN'T PAINT A, SCULPTOR, PHOTOGRAPHY AND GRAPHIC ARTS. MOTION PICTURES, RADIO, TELEVISION, TAPE, SOUND REPORT-- SOUND RECORDING, AND OTHER ARTS RELATED TO THE PRESENTATION, PERFORMANCE, AND EXIT-- EXECUTION OF THESE MAJOR ART FORMS. THAT WAS EVENT THAT YOU HAD. SO THE REST OF IT GETS INTO WHETHER THAT ART THAT YOU CREATED CAN BE AN ITEM THAT YOU PURCHASED. RIGHT? SO THE ARGUMENT IS THAT THE ACCU-- ACQUISITION OF SIDES, THE IMPROVEMENT AND ENLARGING OF FURNISHING FACILITIES, YOU DO ART WITHOUT. SO IT DOESN'T SAY EXACTLY HOW SHE WAS SAYING IT, BUT I THINK IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT IT IS WRITTEN. >> I BELIEVE WITH COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD. WE OFFERED MONEY, WERE HAPPY YOU WERE SUCCESSFUL AND HAPPY YOU USED LESS MONEY. BECAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW I AM. BUT, IN SAYING THAT, I THINK THAT YOU ARE SELLING YOURSELF SHORT A LITTLE BIT. AND IF DONE RIGHT THIS ITEM COULD GO FOR MORE THAN 15,000. IT COULD GO FOR 25 OR 100. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. AND YOU KNOW ME. I DON'T LIKE GOVERNMENT INVOLVED IN ANYTHING. AND I DON'T WANT TO PREPAY TODAY FOR TOMORROW. TODAY WE SAY THIS WILL GO FOR NEXT YEAR, THEN NEXT YEAR YOU ARE NOT HERE, LIZZY COMES UP AND SAYS WE HAVE A BIG IDEA. WE NEED $85,000. UNDONE LIKE WHAT ABOUT THE 15 FOR THE ART WE GOT. WE USE THAT OVER HERE, WE DON'T CONTROL THAT. BUT TO ME, I THINK IT'S UP TO YOU ALL THEN TO USE YOUR NETWORK AND YOUR ABILITY. AND IF I WAS IN HIS SHOES, I'D BE ASKING MAY WE PUT THIS IN CITY HALL AND TURN IT INTO SOME KIND OF QR CODE FUND-RAISER TO HELP DO THE ART, OR WE AUCTION OFF AT THAT POINT IN TIME, OR YOU RAFFLE IT OFF. AND THEN IT WILL BE THREE YEARS INTO EXISTENCE OF THE RULES, BUT YOU COULD DO THAT TO WHERE THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER WAYS. I THINK THE EASY WAY IS COMING TO THE GOVERNMENT IN SAYING WILL YOU BUY THIS FOR ME. I THINK THE HARDER AND MORE BENEFICIAL AND REWARDING IS IMAGINE IF YOU GUYS SELL RAFFLE TICKETS, $20 APIECE, AND YOU SELL $15,000 AND RAFFLE TICKETS, ON ONE PERSON GETS IT BACK THE PUBLICITY ON THAT, AND THE MONEY RAISED, YOU SAY CITY HALL, AND WE PARKED THIS IN HERE. MAY I SEE IT AND ENJOYED FOR A BIT LONGER? WHATEVER THE IDEA IS. -- >> I'VE MADE MY CASE. WE ARE OFFERING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE IT OR KEEP IT OR PUT IT WHERE YOU WANT. IF NOT, IT'S FINE. WE WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PUT IT UP FOR AUCTION. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL STAY IN HUTTO. IT VERY LIKELY WILL END UP GOING TO A COLLECTOR OR SOMEWHERE ELSE. THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR SAY IF YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP IT OR NOT. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS PIECE OF HISTORY HERE, OR IF YOU WANT TO LET IT GO. JUST REMEMBER ONE THAT ONE MURAL THAT WE HAD, THE ONE PUBLIC MURAL THAT WE HAD ON THE SIDE OF THE WALL GOT PAINTED OVER WAS REMOVED. EVERYONE'S LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT MURAL. EVERYONE WOULD COME AND TAKE T THE... TAKE PICTURES IN FRONT OF IT AND IT WAS GONE. AND EVERYONE WAS UPSET. WE ARE ALL EXHAUSTED. >> WE HAVE THREE MORE HOURS OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> I DO HAVE LITTLE KIDS AT HOME, AND I AM EXHAUSTED. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE REQUEST. >> SECOND. >> ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING ON, PLEASE CALL E-VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 5-2. NEXT WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION. [13. EXECUTIVE SESSION] [03:50:04] ITEMS 1054. WE WILL GO TO ITEM... THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 150 MUSTANG DRIVE IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL DISTRICT---- JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF HUTTO TEXAS, AND ANY FUTURE SB 2038 PETITIONS REQUESTING THAT A PROPERTY BE REMOVED FROM THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION. ON 13.2. RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.072, 55.1.087, RELATED TO PENDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE HUTTO ECONOMIC TO MELLMAN CORPORATION OR THE CITY OF HUTTO, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PROJECT CORE, PROJECT COTTONWOOD, PROJECT LAYCOCK PROJECT BLUE HUBCAP PROJECT HEARTBEAT, PROJECT AIR, PROJECT ORCHARD, PROJECT TRYING, PROJECT MEGA [14. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION] >> TIME IS 11:43 P.M. WE ARE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. FIRST ITEM UP WE HAVE IS ITEM 41-- 14.1. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS ABOVE. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE EXPENSES RELATED TO PROJECT HEARTBEAT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> SECOND. >> CAN YOU ADD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE TO THAT? THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PIECE TO THAT? EXPENSES OF THE EEC. >> YES, AS DISCUSSED. ANY DISCUSSION? ON THAT MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL E- E-VOTE. ITEM 14.2, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION ON RESOLUTION R-2026-132, DIRECTING THE CITY SECRETARY TO NOT ACCEPT SB 2038 PETITIONS, BECAUSE SB 2038 IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND DIRECTED AT THE-- THAT THE CITY MANAGER NOTIFY PETITIONERS. >> MOTION BROUGHT BY PORTER-- COUNCILOR FOR-- PORTERFIELD, SECONDED BY... PLEASE CALL E-VOTE. [15. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS] ITEM 15.1, GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SHOUT OUT TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. THEY HAVE THE CATFISH DERBY THIS SATURDAY. I THINK THERE WAS A WEATHER NOTICE, BUT I THINK THE WEATHER WILL HOLD UP. SO IT'S AT THE PONDS OUT THERE. OR AS US FOLKS FROM TEXAS CALL THEM, TANKS. GO FISHING IN THE TANK. >> IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE TEXAS PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS GIVEN THREE FISHING LICENSES FOR THIS WEEKEND. >> NO LICENSE REQUIRED FOR ANYWHERE IN TEXAS. IN OUR TANKS. THE CATFISH DERBY IS THIS WEEKEND SO I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THE TRIAL AND TAKING MY KIDS OUT THERE TO DO SOME FISHING. >> LAST YEAR YOU ARE LATE TO ONE OF OUR MEETINGS BECAUSE FISHING CAME AHEAD OF-- >> I'M TAKING MY FAMILY FISHING. >> I'M JUST SAYING IT'S IMPORTANT. >> THERE WAS NOTHING HAPPENING. YOU WERE NOT TALKING ANYWAY. >> ANY COMMENTS? 15.2. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DO WE HAVE ANY? I HAVE ONE. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION, TO RELEASE ALL LEGAL MEMOS RELATED TO THE ESD, OR ESD ITEMS TO INCLUDE EVERYTHING FROM THE MONEY OWED TO CHAPTER 775, LEGAL MEMOS, ALL OF IT. >> YOU WANT THAT ON THE NEXT [03:55:03] AGENDA? >> IF IT WAS THE TRUTH. ANYTHING ELSE? * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.