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[ 1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]

[00:00:08]

>> ALL RIGHT. 7:0 FOUR.

WE WILL START WITH ROLL CALL. AND I ALREADY MISPLACED APPLY ROLL CALL. COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLD, HERE'S.

>> ZEPEDA, HERE. >> THORNTON, MAYOR SNYDER IS HERE. I REALLY NEED THAT SHEET BECAUSE IT TELLS ME WHO DIDN'T -- FOUND IT.

IF YOU WILL RISE FOR THE INVOCATION.

WE WILL BE LED BY KIRBY CAMPBELL OF THE LONE STAR BAPT CHURCH.

HEAVENLY FATHER WE CALL ON YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM AND ALL THE FOLKS GATHERED HERE TONIGHT. THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE AND I PRAY THAT ONE THING WILL BE MOST IMPORTANTLY DONE BRINGING GLORY TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE PRINCIPLE WE GET TO WORK TOGETHER IN THE CITY AND PRAISE THE LORD FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE AND PRAY TO HAVE YOUR HAND UPON ALL WE DO AND LEAD AND DIRECT EACH ONE IN ALL THE DECISIONMAKING PROCESSES THAT WILL BE DONE TONIGHT AND FOR THE UPCOMING WEEKS.

LORD IT'S A JOY TO GET TO LIVE HERE AND TRY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE CITY. I PRAY WE CAN DO THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY WE LIVE. WE ASK IN YOUR NAME, JESUS,

AMEN. >> JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

SKWOO >> HONEST

[ 5.PUBLIC COMMENT]

>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

AND WHEN IT GETS TO YELLOW, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.

WHEN YOU GO TO RED YOUR TIME IS UP.

FIRST UP CHUCK THROUP. >> GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS CHUCK TROUPE. I AM A VIETNAM VETERAN AND OBVIOUSLY A SENIOR. THE COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL SET UP THE DID COMMISSION UNDER WHICH THERE IS THE COMMITTEE FOR THE HUTTO SENIOR WORKING GROUP. AND I AM THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT GROUP. THE BASIC QUESTION WAS ASKED WHAT DO SENIORS NEED. WE TALKED TO A LOT OF SENIORS AND THE ANSWERS ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

SOCIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD COMMUNITY.

TRANSPORTATION FOR MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS TO STRETCH THE FOOD DOLLAR AND PUT A CAP ON UTILITIES.

A SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER WOULD GO A LONG WAY AND PROVIDE FOR THE SOCIALIZATION THAT'S BADLY NEEDED FOR SENIORS.

A WAY TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE. THIS WOULD ALSO HOUSE A BADLY NEEDED HELP SCHEDULING DESK FOR TRANSPORTATION.

THIS COULD BE SUPPORTED BY VOLUNTEER DRIVING SERVICE OR HUTTO VAN OPERATED BY VETTED VOLUNTEERS.

WE WOULD LEVERAGE EXISTING ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE HUTTO RESOURCE CENTER, AND MEALS ON WHEELS TO ADDRESS FOOD INSECURITY OF SENIORS. AS WELL AS PROVIDE A PLACE FOR A NOON MEAL FOR SENIORS. THIS COULD BE A PLACE TO EXCHANGE FOOD COUPONS AND SHOPPING IDEAS TO STRETCH THE DOLLAR. THE SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER NEEDS TO BE SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THE HUTTO DISCOVERY CENTER, THEIR FELLOWSHIP HALL TO ACCOMMODATE A CAFETERIA STYLE KITCHEN AND A COUPLE OF CRAFT AREAS. THIS SHOULD BE A MULTI-USE FACILITY FOR DISASTERS, RED CROSS AND VETERANS WHICH ALL NEED THE SAME SERVICES. UTILITIES INVOLVE THE UTILITY COMPANIES TO PUT A CAP ON CERTAIN UTILITIES FOR SENIORS, MAYBE USE A EARN MEANS TEST LIKE THE VA USES FOR BENEFITS.

SENIORS MAKE UP AN ESTIMATED 20% OF RESIDENTS BEING OVER 50 YEARS OF AGE. FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE SENIOR POPULATION IS EXPECTED TO GROW ANOTHER 20 TO 30%, WHICH MEANS THE NEEDS FOR THE SERVICES WILL RISE.

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A SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER SHOULD NOT BE A BIG STEP FOR A CITY THE SIZE OF HUTTO AND BE PART OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

THERE WAS A BOND ISSUED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO PROP C, UNDER WHICH THERE'S AVAILABLE BOND AND UNDERSTAND IT'S ABOUT $30 MILLION. IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE VEHICLE TO BUILD A SENIOR CITIZEN CENTER. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I HAVE ALREADY E-MAILED TO ALL OF YOUR ACCOUNTS COPY OF WHAT I'M READING TODAY PLUS A LETTER FROM JEFF WHITE WHO I ENLISTED TO HELP ME WITH NUMBERS. HE DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.

SO I APPRECIATE AND I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR HELPING ME.

AND THAT'S IT, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

NOPE. THANK YOU.

>> SORRY, DURING PUBLIC COMMENT WE'RE UNABLE TO HAVE DIALOGUE

BACK AND FORTH. >> I'M SORRY.

OKAY. THAT'S FINE.

>> BUT I WOULD LIKE TO VISIT WITH EACH ONE OF YOU SO YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL WITH ME. YOU WILL HEAR FROM ME AGAIN.

[6.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]

>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US UP TO ITEM 61, CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES ECONOMIC CORPORATIONS AND LOCAL CORPORATIONS AND TAX INREVESTMENT BOARDS AND AREA APPOINTMENTS AND TO SPEAK WE HAVE RICK HUDSON.

>> PRIOR TO RICK COMING UP HERE, JUST WANT TO HAVE COUNCIL PULL UP AN E-MAIL I SENT MONDAY ABOUT 8:30 IN THE MORNING WHICH LISTS THE CANDIDATE, THE LETTER NUMBER.

JUST FOR UNTIL NOMINATIONS, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST FOR ANONYMITY TO USE THE DESIGNATED NUMBER.

HI THERE, RICK HUDSON. P & Z CHAIR.

JUST WANT TO TOUCH BASE REAL QUICK ON THE NOMINATIONS.

AS I REPLIED TO COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS' E-MAIL ON MONDAY, THERE IS A POSITION PERSON RECENTLY TERMED OUT, HOWEVER THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE. THAT IS CANDIDATE F SINCE WE'RE USING THE LETTERS. CANDIDATE F WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THERE'S NO INTERVIEW PROCESS ANYMORE. JUST WANT TO PRIDE MY INPUT REAL QUICK. I BELIEVE CANDIDATE E IS THE BEST SECOND CANDIDATE. CANDIDATE B AND EITHER B OR D WOULD BE GOOD. AND MY LAST CHOICE WOULD BE CANDIDATE A. CANDIDATE C BEING INELIGIBLE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS OF ME? ALL

THANK >> THANK YOU.

SIR. OKAY.

>> I DO WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS PROCESS BEING THAT WE CHANGED IT RECENTLY. SO I WOULD REQUEST MORE TIME SO TO GET FAMILIAR WITH THE PROCESS.

I KNOW WE CHANGED TO WHAT YOU CALLED THE OLD PROCESS LAST TIME WE SPOKE ABOUT IT. IT WAS SUGGESTED.

I NEED MORE TIME. >> IT'S ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA TO CHANGE. THAT'S ITEM 8.7.

WE'RE STILL ON THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE LAST THREE

YEARS. >> OKAY.

SO, THE INTERVIEW PROCESS IF I MAY RESPOND.

THE INTERVIEW PROCESS IS WHEN YOU SEND OUT THE RESUMES AND LEAVE IT UP TO EACH COUNCIL TO INTERVIEW AT THEIR OWN DISCRETION. THERE'S SOMETIMES, I CAN'T POST, I CAN'T DO AN OUTSIDE APPLICATION ON THE INNER CITY WEB. THERE'S LINKEDIN.

I SUGGEST THAT. THERE'S THE APPLICATION THAT IS THROUGH THE CITY OF HUTTO. OR COMMISSION APPLICATION PROCESS. THEIR NAMES AND THEIR PHONE NUMBERS. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, BEFORE WE WERE HAVING TWO PEOPLE OR THREE PEOPLE DO THAT AND TRYING TO GET YOU KNOW THE SUB COMMITTEE PLUS A CHAIR.

WE HAVE FOUR CANDIDATES, WE GOT TO GET SEVEN, 8, 9 PEOPLE TO MEET AT ONE TIME. IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT.

PETER DID A GREAT JOB OF DOING THAT BUT HE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT TO DO THAT. I APPLAUD HIM FOR THAT.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S AN EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY OF DOING THAT. TO GET EVERYBODY IN A ROOM AND THEN HAVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE COMMIT TO STUFF.

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WE HAVE SOME NO SHOWS. NOT NECESSARILY THE BOARD BUT CANDIDATES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SOMETIMES YOU DON'T EVEN GET TO SPEAK TO THEM IN THAT WAY OF PROCESS.

THIS WAY IT ALLOWS EVERY INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBER TO LOOK AT THEIR RESUME OR APPLICATION QUESTION FORM.

THEY HAVE THE PHONE NUMBER. AND IT'S UP TO US.

WE ALWAYS DID IT ON MONDAYS BEFORE THE BIG CATTLE CALL, BEFORE THURSDAY MEETING. I SEND THIS OUT ON MONDAY MORNING FOR EVERYONE TO GET UP TO SPEED ON.

I DO COPY THE CHAIRS ON THAT INITIAL E-MAIL.

I DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT REROUTED THROUGH THE CITY FOR --

>> COUNCILMEMBERS WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING.

>> SO NOTHING CHANGED YET. JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE INDIVIDUALLY CONTACT THE APPLICANTS.

>> BUT WE ALWAYS HAD THAT OPTION.

>> IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THERE. >> AND WE HAD A LARGE, WHICH I WAS HAPPY TO SEE. A LONG LIST OF APPLICATIONS AND ONE THAT CAME IN THIS MORNING OR CAME IN KIND OF LATE.

IS THERE A WAY TO GET MORE TIME? >> THAT IS THE UNEXPIRED TERM.

WE KNOW HIM. WE USUALLY DON'T INTERVIEW UNEXPIRED TERMS. AND HISTORICALLY.

ON AND YOU KNOW, SO, I'M SORRY IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON MY PART.

WE ALL KNOW THE INDIVIDUAL AND KNOW WHO HE IS.

I POSTED HIS QUESTIONNAIRE FROM MID 2025.

I WOULD WANT MORE TIME TO CONTINUE IN THIS PROCESS SINCE IT'S MY FIRST GOING THROUGH IT. I WANT TO BE THOROUGH AND GET EVERYBODY DEEPER CONSIDERATION AND MORE TIME BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF NEW NAMES AND APPLICANTS THAT CAME IN.

I WANT TO REQUEST MORE TIME TO SPEND TIME ON THAT PROCESS.

>> ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY FOR PLANNING AND

ZONING? >> FOR ALL OF THEM.

>> WE'RE REALLY -- LET ME FINISH.

PER PROTOCOL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO MAKE A MOTION AND THEN SECOND AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS. WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DISCUSS ANYTHING UNTIL THERE'S A MOTION. I ASK FOR A MOTION AND DISCUSSION. I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT KYLE PARKINSON TO THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

I SEE LAB HERE. HE IS AN EXPIRED TERM HE WISHES TO REUP ON THAT. I MAKE A MOTION FOR KYLE PARKINSON. HE DOES A GREAT JOB AND WE ALL

KNOW HIM. >> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT HIM AND YOU CAN TELL US WHY DURING DISCUSSION.

>> I WANT TO DO THESE ONE AT A TIME.

>> LABORATORY ADVISORY BOARD. KYLE PARKINSON.

NOMINATION. >> SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON KYLE PARKINSON TO THE LIBRARY BOARD? HEARING NONE. KAULT VOTE.

COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON AM AYE. >> AYE.

MORRIS. >> AYE.

ZEPEDA, >> REYNOLDS.

>> AYE. PORTERFIELD,

SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR TERS 3 MEGASIGHT. WE HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EXPIRED TERMS. IT'S A FIVE-MEMBER BOARD.

TONYA SNEAD, DAN THORNTON I NOMINATE TO JIM HUDSON.

>> SNYDER. >> AYE.

REYNOLDS. >> AYE.

PORT PORTER FIELD >> AYE.

>> >> AYE.

>> AYE. KING.

>> AYE. QUESTION PASSES 7-0.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR COTTON WOOD CREEK LBC AND RIVER CREEK. WE HAVE THOSE ARE THREE-MEMBER BOARDS. DAN THORNTON, JIM MORRIS ARE BOTH ON THE RIVER CREEK AND COTTON WOOD.

WE HAVE ONE VACANCY ON EACH OF THE BOARDS.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE CORINA ZEPEDA FOR BOTH

POSITIONS. >> MR. MORRIS, YOU ONLY HAVE

VACANCY ON COTTONWOOD. >> JUST COTTON WOOD.

>> JUST RIVER CREEK. >> JUST COTTON WOOD.

SO, I MAKE A MOTION FOR THE RIVER--

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>> COTTON WOOD. >> MOTION FOR COTTONWOOD LGC TO APPOINT CORINA ZEPEDA. TO YOURSELF OUR US.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS AND SECOND BY PORTER FIELD.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? DO YOU ACCEPT?

>> I DO, THANK YOU. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

KING. >> AYE.

MAYOR PRO TEM >>

>> >>

>> >> THORNTON.

>> AYE. REYNOLDS.

AYE >> AYE.

MOTION PASSES 7-0. OKAY.

WE HAVE A TERZ ONE, THE CO-OP. SEVEN-MEMBER BOARD.

MIKE SNYDER, SCOTT HESSEL MEYER AND THREE PEOPLE ARE EXPIRED TERMS OR RICK HUDSON. PETER GORDON.

AND RUSS BOHLS. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HUDSON

AND JIM MORRIS. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

CALL THE VOTE. >> MAYOR I BELIEVE THAT COMMISSIONER BOHLS IS A COUNTY APPOINTEE AND NOT THE CITY.

>> HE IS COUNTY. >> YEAH, SO WE DON'T GET TO

ON HIM. >> DANG.

>> SO SO JUST HUDSON. >> JUST RICK HUDSON IF HE SO AGREES. I SAID TERS 1 IS WHAT YOU WANTED

TO BE ON. >> YOU'RE OKAY WITH JUST

>> YES. >> ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOOD THEN. >> PORTERFIELD.

>> AYE. SNYDER.

>> AYE. >>

>> AYE. KING.

>> AYE. COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS.

>> AYE. COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS.

>> I'M. THORNTON, AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. OKAY.

NOW WE GO TO TERS 2. WHICH IS 7-MEMBER BOARD.

DAN THORNTON. AMBER MITCHELL.

MARCUS COLEMAN. MIKE SNYDER AND TERMING OFF.

AARON CLANCY. AND KURT.

JIM MORRIS. I WOULD LIKE TO RENOMINATE AARON CLANCY, KURT AND JIM MORRIS BACK ON TERS 3.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER

REYNOLDS. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?

>> HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE.

COUNCILMEMBER KING. >> AYE.

MORRIS. >> AYE.

COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON >> AYE.

>> AYE. >> SNYDER.

>> AYE. ZEPEDA

>> >> REYNOLDS.

>> AYE. SO, LEFT THE BEST FOR LAST.

PLANNING AND ZONING, TWO VACANCIES AND WE HAVE FIVE, WELL, AS A CHAIRPERSON RICK HUDSON OF P& Z.

IT WAS MY OVER SIGHT. THANK YOU, RICK.

SO WE DO HAVE THE ONE INCUMBENT THAT'S TERMED OUT AND THEN WE HAVE FOUR OTHERS. THE THINGS I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT JOSE DE LACRUZ AND SHE GOES BY MARIE JOEL DAN.

SHE GOES BY JOELLE DAN FOR THE TWO VACANT POSITIONS.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KING. OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION ON THE

MOTION. >> WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO LET OTHER PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT.

THIS IS ONE WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED ON FOR THE LAST WEEK OR SO.

IF ANYBODY HAD COMMENTS. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE, MORRIS, IT. THORNTON, AYE.

>> AYE. SNYDER.

>> AYE. MOTION PASSES 7-0.

I THINK THAT'S IT, MAYOR. >> WELL, GOOD NIGHT.

[6.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, CIP, Fire Safety).]

I HAD IT SCRIPTED. I DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH.

NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 6.2. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR UPDATES CITY COUNCIL SUB COMMITTEES. WE DID HAVE A FIRE SAFETY ONE.

I THINK WHAT IT WOULD BE BEST TO DO ON THAT IS WE MET, THEY WANTED TO RECORD BECAUSE THE CHIEF COULDN'T BE THERE.

WE HAVE A RECORDING THAT WE CAN GET SET UP TO GET EVERYBODY THE MINUTES. I WOULD SAY THE MINUTES ARE PROBABLY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT.

WE TALKED ABOUT A RANGE OF THINGS.

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YOU GUYS TELL ME WHAT I'M MISSING.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CURRENT STATUS OF THINGS.

HOW THE ISSUES WE HAVE WITH THE AGREEMENT DID SEEM TO BE CONFUSION IN TERMS OF OUR READING BASED ON LEGAL INTERPRETATION THAT THE AGREEMENT COULD BE CANCELED WITHIN A DAY AND AFTER 10 YEARS THEY WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT.

WE COMMUNICATED HOW WE TRIED TO SOLVE THAT AT THE DAY OF THE MEETING. AND THERE SEEMED TO BE CONFUSION ABOUT ANY BACK AND FORTH. IN FACT CITY, I DON'T KNOW, THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THERE HAD BEEN MULTIPLE DRAFTS SENT TO US THE DAY OF. I LEFT CONFUSED OF THEM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON EXACTLY.

WE WENT THROUGH THAT AND TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WOULD COME UP TONIGHT. AND WE AGREED TO MEET AGAIN AND I BELIEVE THAT'S AUGUST 1ST. IS THAT RIGHT?

SATURDAY MORNING. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THE MEETING RIGHT BEFORE THE CIP DISCUSSION AT CITY HALL.

ANYTHING I LEFT OUT? MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> SO MORE TO COME ON THAT. WE WILL GET THE MINUTES AI MINUTES. ALL RIGHT.

[7.1. Hutto Gateway Public Improvement District and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Presentation (Derek Pam]

THAT BRINGS US TO 7.1. HUTTON GATEWAY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE

PRESENTATION. >> GOOD EVENING MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. SEE IF I CAN PULL UP OUR PRESENTATION. I I DER AM DER -- DEREK PAMPE. WE ARE NOT HERE TO TAKE ACTION BUT LATER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, STAFF HAS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THEY WANT TO GO OVER YOU WITH LEGAL. I THOUGHT IT WISE TO GIVE A REFRESH ON THE PROJECT. SO EVERYTHING IS TOP OF MIND AS YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH THOSE PARTICULAR DETAILS.

FOR MANY OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY SEEN THIS BEFORE.

I THINK THIS IS OUR THIRD CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AND IF YOU'RE ALSO ON THE EDC BOARD, PROBABLY YOUR FOURTH TIME.

I RECOGNIZE THERE'S NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND TRY TO BE BRIEF AND HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AS BEST I CAN.

SO HERE'S THE GATEWAY PROJECT SITE ALONG EAST LOCAL HIGHWAY AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE HIGHWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 137 ON THE SOUTH END OF TOWN. AND OUR PROJECT PROPOSAL IS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. ESSENTIALLY WE TRIED TO MATCH THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WE ABUT WHILE CONCENTRATING HIGHER INTENSITY DEVELOPMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF EAST HIGHWAY AND COUNTY ROAD 137 FEATHERING IT IN FROM THE PERIMETER INTO THE CORE. THIS IS THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING OFF OF FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

HERE'S THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS.

WE HAVE 600,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL.

WE HAVE THE MAIN STREET RETAIL AMONG THE WALKABLE STRIP AND THE HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER BEHIND IT.

ALL OF WHICH OVER LOOKING OUR CENTRAL LAKE AND PARK AREA.

AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, WE HAVE MORE REGIONAL RETAIL AND A SPACE FOR POTENTIALLY AN OFFICE.

HERE'S OUR RESIDENTIAL SLIDE HERE.

SHOWING THE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL USES THAT WE HAVE GOT PLANNED HERE. WE HAVE MORE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY THAT WOULD DIRECTLY ABUT AT LEAST IN THIS CASE TO THE WEST THE SOUTH GATE AND RIVER WALK AND FEATHER INTO HIGHER DENSITY INCLUDING TOWNHOMES AND TWO MULTIFAMILY SITES.

THE WHOLE THING IS TIED TOGETHER THROUGH OUR CENTRAL GREEN BELT.

WE HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL SET OF LAKES THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT FACES. AND IT'S ALL LINKED TOGETHER WITH OUR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT MAKES THE RETAIL SPACE ALL WALKABLE WITHIN A QUARTER MILE FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL SPACES.

BUT THIS GREEN SPACE LINKS EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND SERVES AS A FOCAL AMENITY THAT WILL BE PUBLIC.

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AND SO LATER THIS EVENING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEW QUESTIONS POSED TO YOU FROM YOUR LEGAL TEAM REGARDING THE TERS.

I THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE HIGHLIGHTS.

THE PLAN AS OF CURRENT IS TO HAVE A TERS ON THIS PROJECT THAT ENCOMPASSES 265 ACRES OF THE SITE UPON ANNEXATION.

CURRENTLY WE'RE ON THE ETJ AND REQUESTING THE TERS TO HELP US COMPLETE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS AND HELP US BRING ONLINE SOONER THAN LATER AND BRING A HIGH QUALITY TENANTS AND USERS AND DESIGN THAT WOULDN'T NORMALLY COME FORWARD.

SO IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE WIDENING OF COUNTY ROAD 137 THAT INCLUDES A TURN LANE AND A LIGHT.

AND UNLIKE MANY DEVELOPMENTS WHERE THEY'RE PAYING FEES INTO A BUCKET, OUR PLAN IS TO CONSTRUCT AS WE GO.

AND SO, PART OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON WITH STAFF IS TRYING TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHERE ARE THE TIRZ IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED. WE PUT TOGETHER A COUPLE OF EXHIBITS TO HIGHLIGHT OUR INTENT.

AND SO, WATER OR WASTEWATER IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AS YOU CAN SEE IN RED. THOSE ARE THE LOCATIONS OF OUR WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENTS FRONTING ON THE COMMERCIAL PARCELS INCLUDING HOTEL AND OFFICE SPACE THERE.

SAME GOES FOR STORMWATER. AGAIN, THE AREAS IN BLUE WOULD BE OUR PIT IMPROVEMENTS AND AGAIN THE AREA IN RED WOULD BE TIRZ IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN EXPRESSED TO US THAT REALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BOTH THAT ONE, THE TIRZ SHOULD NOT GO TO PAY DOWN PIT ASSESSMENTS AND TWO THERE NEED TO BE TWO COMPLETELY SEPARATE BUCKETS. ESSENTIALLY THE TIRZ IS PITTING PIT SITEMENTS BUT WE'RE KEEPING THE BUCKETS COMPLETELY SEPARATE.

THIS IS THE PAVEMENT AND RIGHT-OF-WAY AREAS.

LOOKING TOWARD THE EASTERN DIRECTION, WE HAVE THE ROADS WORKING THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL SPACES.

WE SHOW THE READ HIGHLIGHTING IN THE PAVING AREA IN SECTOR ONE WHICH DOES HAVE RESIDENTIAL. IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE ON THE LEFT, YOU PROBABLY SAY THAT'S ALL RESIDENTIAL.

WHY IS IT RED? THAT'S BECAUSE THAT IS A ROAD ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. NONE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS ACTUALLY FRONT ON THERE. IT'S REALLY AN EXTENSION OF CATS LANE FROM THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. WE THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT FOR THE TIRZ BECAUSE KATS LANE NOT ONLY CONNECTS OUR DEVELOPMENT BUT RIVER WALK, SOUTH WALK AND LAKE ESTATES TO OUR CENTRAL PARK AND COMMERCIAL SPACE.

WITHOUT ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THAT WOULD BE A LOCAL ROAD. SINCE IT'S THERE AND DRAWING OUR FIRST CUSTOMERS TO THE COMMERCIAL, WE THINK THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT AT THE EARLY TERMS IN THE INCLUSION IN THE TIRZ. SO AT A HIGH LEVEL.

THESE ARE THE BASIC TERMS AS PROPOSED.

SO THE TIRZ BOUNDARIES WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE DEVELOPMENT AREA OF OUR SITE. 35 YEAR TERM AND WE PROPOSE THE USE OF TIRZ BONDS. USING A BOND WOULD HELP US EXPEDITE REIMBURSEMENT AND DRAMATICALLY REDUCES THE EXPENSE. WE THINK TIRZ MONEY SHOULD GO FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOT INTEREST.

GIVEN THE LONG LIFE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE INTEREST COULD ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY EXCEED THE PRINCIPLE COST OF IMPROVEMENTS.

WE THINK THAT'S A SMART INCLUSION.

THE KEY BENEFITS FOR OUR SITE IS OBVIOUSLY PROJECT ANNEXATION INTO THE CITY. SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BRINGING SALES AND PROPERTY TAX.

KEY CONSIDERATION FOR THE TIRZ IS UNLOCKING OUR HOTEL AND CONFERENCE SITE, THAT PURPLE SITE SHOWN THERE.

AND WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE FUTURE, UNLOCKING WITH A CONFERENCE CENTER UNLOCKING A HIGHER LEVEL OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE TIRZ BECAUSE IT ONLY FUNDS PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

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WHEN WE GO TO THE POINT OF BUILDING THE HOTEL, WE THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO COME BACK WITH A USER IN TOW AND A PROPOSAL FOR A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WHICH WOULD UNLOCK THAT INCREMENTAL INCREASE IN THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX.

NOT READY TO GET INTO THOSE DETAILS BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE OUR MINDS ARE GOING. THE TIRZ IS CRITICAL FIRST STEP TO BEING ABLE TO ADVERTISE TO THOSE END USERS AND OPERATORS.

AND ULTIMATELY BY UTILIZING THE TIRZ FOR THE COMMERCIAL IMPROVEMENTS IT ALLOWS US TO KEEP OUR TAX RATES LOWER FOR THE COMMERCIAL OR EFFECTIVE TAX RATE RATHER THAN USING A PID THAT MIGHT PRICE OUT THE HIGH-QUALITY TENANTS WE ARE TRYING TO ATTRACT. ULTIMATELY IN A MIXED-USE PROPERTY EVERYTHING WORKS TOGETHER.

THE RESIDENTIAL IS SUPPORTING THE COMMERCIAL.

THE COMMERCIAL IS SUPPORTING THE HOTEL.

WE THINK BRINGING IT ALTOGETHER CONCURRENT REALLY WILL EXPEDITE THE TIME FRAME AND BRING TOGETHER A HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. ESSENTIALLY THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL BULLET POINTS. I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. I COULD MAKE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE REQUEST. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SITE WITH THE WOLF FAMILY FOR THREE YEARS AND HAD OUR DEVELOPMENT FOR A A YEAR. ANY ADVICE OR ENCOURAGEMENT YOU CAN GIVE TO STAFF TO BRING THIS BACK FOR A FINAL VOTE, SOONER THAN LATER, MY GOAL IS TO BRING THIS TO YOU GUYS AS A FULLY BAKED DEAL THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE ME.

ANYTHING YOU CAN OFFER TO PUSH THAT ALONG, WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE EVEN IF THERE'S ONE OR TWO ITEMS TO DISCUSS, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOU A PACKAGE THAT'S 99% COMPLETE.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEAL, THE PROJECT IN TERMS OF ITS SCOPE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE OR ANYTHING PARTICULAR TO THE TIRZ. I'M HERE FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM

COUNCIL? >> THIS IS AMAZING.

TO BE A LITTLE JEWEL IN OUR SOUTH SIDE AND GROWING UP IN THE KIND OF THE HILLS IN NORTHWEST AUSTIN, IT REMINDS ME OF THAT AREA. I LIKE THE FOCUS OF WORKING WITHIN THE GEOGRAPHY AND THE WATER WAYS AND THE THINGS.

EVERY TIME I SEE THIS, I GET A LITTLE HAPPIER ABOUT IT.

APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND THE TIRZ I THINK YOU'RE GOING, MY LIMITED ABILITY OF TIRZ IN THE LAST YEAR IS IT'S SUCH A GREAT FINANCIAL ABILITY, FINANCIAL TOOL TO AND I THINK THE WAY YOU'RE DOING IT SEEMS IN LINE WITH WHAT I'M EXPERIENCING.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT IS THE POLICY ON FISHING IN LAKE?

[LAUGHTER] >> WE GOT KIND OF A THING HERE.

>> I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE THAT A PUBLIC AMENITY.

WE HAVE A LITTLE WORK TO DO WITH BRUSHY CREEK WCID TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. THAT'S TOP OF OUR LIST BECAUSE IT'S A JEWEL. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON THE SITE, I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE YOU OR HAVE STEVEN WHO GREW UP ON THE SITE DRIVE YOU AROUND. THERE'S TOPOGRAPHY AND LAKES WHICH IS REALLY UNIQUE AND RARE FOR THIS PART OF TOWN.

>> I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THAT.

>> MAYBE WE CAN TALK TO PEOPLE HELP OUT WITH THE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THE ISSUE. ARE YOU ABLE TO SAY THAT

PUBLICLY? >> YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF STAFF TURN OVER.

WE HAVE TO GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED.

IF EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT COLLECTIVELY, YOU GUYS ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS PROJECT WITH THE SCOPE WE HAVE OUTLINED HERE, AND JUST SAYING HEY, LET'S BRING THIS SOONER THAN LATER, THAT WOULD HELP MAKING IT A PRIORITY. WHAT'S THAT?

YOU'RE SPEAKING OF THE LAKE. >> ARE YOU ABLE TO SAY PUBLICLY WHAT THE POTENTIAL ISSUE IS WITH THE LAKE?

>> WCID CONTROLS IT AND HAVE THE RIGHTS TO LIMIT RECREATIONAL USE. WE WILL GO BACK AND WORK WITH THEM. THEY NEED TO DO REPAIRS ON THE SITE. UPDATE THEIR EASEMENT TO A SPECIFIC EASEMENT AND SO, THAT'S A NEGOTIATION THAT'S, WE HAVE INITIATED BUT IS NOT NEAR COMPLETION.

SO IF THERE'S A SCENARIO WHERE THE CITY WANTS TO ADVOCATE FOR WHAT THEY WOULD ULTIMATELY LIKE TO SEE SINCE THE SURROUNDING AREA IS CITY PARK, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU AT THE TABLE KNOWING IT'S NOT JUST SOME DEVELOPER ASKING FOR THIS.

THIS IS A COMMUNITY-WIDE BENEFIT OR CONCERN, THAT WOULD BE REALLY

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POWERFUL COMING FROM THE CITY. >> MAYOR PRO TEM, THE PONDS OUT HERE HAVE BEEN A BIG DEBATE. THE DEVELOPER SAID NO FISHING AND IT WAS AN UPROAR. NOW THEY'RE INSTALLING WITH A FISHING DOCK BECAUSE THE PUBLIC --

>> THEY WEREN'T GOING TO HAVE THAT.

IF YOU BUILD A LIKE THAT AND WCID NEEDS HELP UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY, I'M SURE WE CAN HELP.

>> LOOKING AHEAD, THERE'S GOING TO BE HORSE TRADING AND THAT'S OUR AGENDA TO MAKE THIS PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.

THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FLOOD PROTECTION.

BUT WE STILL WANT TO BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN THE CAT TAILS AND MAKE IT VISUALLY STUNNING. ANY COMMENTS?

>> I GOT A FEW. I ALWAYS GOT A FEW.

I AM WITH COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. I LOVE THE PROJECT.

I HAVE DRIVEN WITH THE WOLFF FAMILY.

I DIDN'T KNOW THE EXTENT THE WOLF FAMILY HAS BEEN INVOLVED M HUTTO WITH THEIR OPERATIONS TO DOGS AND DOG PARK AND ALL OF THIS. THIS IS PROBABLY A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS CITY.

ONE BECAUSE ANYBODY CAN BUILD COMMERCIAL.

ANYBODY CAN BUILD APARTMENTS. BUT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR PROJECT IS NOT APARTMENTS. IT'S COMMERCIAL RIGHT ON A HIGHWAY AT A MAJOR INTERSECTION WITH 137.

WITH A CONVENTION CENTER. AND YOU GUYS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT COME TO US AND SAID WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A CONVENTION CENTER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT REALLY GREAT CONVENTION CENTERS, THEY ARE NOT BUILT WITHIN A CITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT. JUST THE WHOLE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS BUILT AROUND. BETWEEN THE LAKE AND THE HILLS.

I GOT A LOT OF BUTTS IN THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC, I THINK THIS IS PERFECT YOU GUYS WERE HERE AND I'M SORRY IT'S TAKEN THREE YEARS.

THIS IS HELPFUL TO PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC.

AND YOU WILL SEE WHY. ONE, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT JP 4 AND WE'RE IN A MOIST AREA AND WE'RE NOT EXACTLY WET DRY AND WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.

WE HAD ON THE CITY COUNCIL SIDE AND MORE ON THE EDC SIDE.

THIS AREA IS NOT ABLE TO HAVE MIXED DRINKS.

I DON'T KNOW OF A SINGLE CONVENTION CENTER THAT CAN OPERATE WITHOUT MIXED DRINKS. I KNOW SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T DRINK SAY IT HAS TO HAPPEN TO GET THE RESTAURANT USERS TO USE THAT. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SPURRING BECAUSE OF THE PROJECT RIGHT HERE.

AND ALSO NOT THAT COPILOT, I DON'T REALLY TRUST EVERYTHING AI PUTS OUT. I ASKED WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SET RETAIL SALES PER SQUARE FOOT OF COMMERCIAL, IT SAID 450 TO $730 PERSQUARE FOOT. I DIDN'T WANT TO OVER ESTIMATE.

I WENT IN THE MIDDLE AND CAME UP WITH 590 TIMES YOUR 600,000 SQUARE FEET. $354 MILLION A YEAR IN RETAIL SALES. THAT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH TO YOU.

RIGHT NOW MEANS NOTHING TO MOST OF US BECAUSE WE CAN'T COLLECT THE SALES TAX WHICH IS ALMOST 7.1 MILLION.

WE CAN GET A PROMISE TO GET SOME OF IT AND FIND OUT IN 10 YEARS WE DON'T GET ANY OF IT. YOU'RE SHOWING US TIRZ BONDS OUR ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE IS PROPERTY TAX AND YOU'RE SHOWING US 35-YEAR BONDS THAT WILL BE PAYING AND GIVING OUR PROPERTY TAX TO, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT, BUT THE BENEFIT LIKE YOU PUT ON HERE SALES AND PROPERTY TAX AND WE GET NO SALES TAX JUST PROPERTY TAX WE'RE GIVING BACK IN THE TIRZ.

I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S SO SIGNIFICANT THE DEBATE WE'RE HAVING OUTSIDE OF YOUR DEAL ON SALES TAX AND THE ESD RELATIONSHIP. DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS CANNOT HAPPEN AND WILL NOT HAPPEN WHEN A CITY HAS GOT TWO ARMS TIED BEHIND THEIR BACK AND ONLY ABLE TO COLLECT PROPERTY TAXES.

EVERYBODY WHO DREWS THROUGH THE 137, 138 INTERSECTION, THE REVEREND NEEDS TO SAY A PRAYER BECAUSE IT'S TOP OF A HILL AND A POORLY-DESIGNED INTERSECTION BY THE COUNTY, YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO GO IN REBUILD IT, SIGNALIZE IT WITH OUR HELP, AND AGAIN, WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THIS, THIS IS INCREASED POLICE SERVICES.

THIS IS INCREASED ROAD MAINTENANCE ULTIMATELY.

THIS IS INCREASED CITY SERVICES. BUT IN ORDER TO FUND SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE HAVE TO USE OUR PROPERTY TAX AND THEN EVERY OTHER CITY, YOU GET TO USE SALE TAX AT YOUR BENEFIT.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT QUITE YET. THE BUT IS NOT FOR YOU ALL.

IT'S TO REMIND US WHY WE'RE DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING.

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ALSO WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER, OUR HOT TAX COLLECTIONS GO UP ACROSS THE CITY. IN ORDER TO GET A HOT TAX RATE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CONVENTION CENTER.

SOME CITIES BUILD A CONVENTION CENTER AND SPEND MILLIONS IN DEBT SERVICE AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SURE.

HERE YOU'RE WANTING A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO WORK TOGETHER AND DO IN A WAY YOU WILL MAKE A LITTLE MONEY AND WE WON'T LOSE MONEY AND EVERYBODY WILL BE HAPPY.

WE WILL HAVE A NICE HOTEL CONVENTION CENTER.

IT'S ALL THESE THINGS WE HAVE TO REALLY START DOING AND KEEP ON THE PACE AND PICK UP THE PACE A LITTLE BIT SO WE MAKE SURE WE DON'T IN MY MIND LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THE ONLY THING I GOT IS, WE WILL COME UP, I SUPPORT THE TIRZ FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHATEVER THE LAWYERS SAY WE CAN DO TOWARDED CONVENTION CENTER. THE ROUND ROCK DID WITH KALAHARI. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR FINANCIAL INVOLVEMENT IS. EVERYBODY DRIVES BY SAY I WISH THAT WAS IN HUTTO YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS THERE'S A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP AND THEY'RE GETTING SALES TAX AND BEVERAGE TAXES WHICH SUPPORTS ALL THAT.

WHAT'S THAT? >> ASTRONOMICAL.

IF YOU WANT A GREAT BIG DEVELOPMENT.

THE PUBLIC IS JUST SEEING SOME OF THIS.

WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT. YOU'RE PROBABLY WONDERING WHY ALL THE FIGHTING ON THE AIR WAVES.

IT'S BECAUSE WE KNOW TO MAKE THIS WORK, WE KNOW WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO. WE WILL TALK TO STAFF.

I LIKE HOW YOU SAID, ANY IDEAS OR

>> SOMETHING LIKE THAT. >> YEAH.

HINS NUDGES. >> THE ONE THING I REMEMBER WE TOLD YOU IS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. THE COUNCIL IS ON BOARD.

WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE THIS AGREEMENT DONE.

WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HANG UP IS.

WE WILL COME OUT AND DO WHAT WE DO.

MAKE MOTIONS LIKE WE WANT A TIRZ TO INCLUDE WHATEVER.

137, 138, PART OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.

WHATEVER THE PUBLIC ROADS ARE AND THAT WAY YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AND STAFF KNOWS THE DIRECTION AND WE CAN HURRY UP AND GET THIS DONE. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS GO AWAY. THE WOLF FAMILY IS ONLY GOING TO WAIT SO LONG BEFORE THEY BUILD IT NOT IN THE CITY AND DECIDE TO DO IT IN THE COUNTY. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. THANKS FOR COMING UP AND, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT.

>> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU GUYS IN THE BACK

TOO. >> STEVE, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT. IT IS PRETTY INTERESTING.

WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH. YOU CAN REALLY SEE THIS BEING

SOMETHING BIG. >> IT'S A GEM FOR SURE.

I MEAN, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST PIECES OF PROPERTY I HAD THE PLEASURE TO WORK ON. I'M EXCITED.

>> IT'S LITERALLY A JEWEL. ALL RIGHT.

[7.2. Presentation and discussion of the June 2026 financial report. (Alberta Barrett)]

THANKS MAN. >> THANK YOU GUYS.

NEXT 7.2. PRESENTATION OF JUNE 2026

FINANCIAL REPORT. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR COME COUNCIL. ALBERTA BARRETT, THE FIRST SLIDE IS THE GENERAL FUND. JUST TO GIVE YOU THE OUTLAY.

THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE LINE ITEM OR CATEGORY.

THE NEXT TWO COLUMNS ARE THE LAST TWO YEARS OF ACTUAL DATA.

THE MIDDLE 25-26 IS OUR CURRENT BUDGET.

THE AMOUNTS FOR THE CURRENT MONTH.

SECOND TO LASTED IS WHERE YOU'RE AT YEAR TO DATE WITH THIS FISCAL YEAR AND THE DIFFERENCE. THE MAIN ITEM IN REVENUES, THE TOP ONE IS YOUR PROPERTY TAX. WHICH IS YOUR MAJOR REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. SO HERE IN THE MIDDLE WE HAD BUDGETED OUR AMENDED BUDGET IS $15,189,073 THROUGH JUNE.

WHEN THIS WAS COMPILED WE WERE AT $15,040,059 OR 99% OF THE AMOUNT WE HAD BUDGETED. THE NEXT ONE IS YOUR SALES TAX.

WHICH IS YOUR SECOND LARGEST REVENUE SOURCE FOR THE GENERAL FUND. WE HAD BUDGETED $10,827,150.

AND WE'RE CURRENTLY AT ABOUT 73% AT $7,880,503.

WE WILL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE LATER.

IN TOTAL, LOOKING AT YOUR TOTAL REVENUES, THROUGH JUNE YOU'RE AT

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$29,569,917 OR 83% OF THE AMOUNT BUDGETED.

MOVING TO EXPENDITURES IN TOTAL. WE BUDGETED $35,211,422.

AND WE'RE ABOUT 64% OF THAT BUDGET AT $22,395,225 THROUGH JUNE. OKAY.

NEXT IS JUST A GRAPH OF THE SAME THING WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

I GUESS WHAT I WOULD POINT OUT HERE, IF YOU LOOKED AT TOP TWO CHART OR BARS LOOKING AT YOUR EXPENDITURE, THE MAJORITY OF REASON WHY YOU'RE EXPENDITURES ARE LESS THAN BUDGET IS JUST POSITION VACANCIES YEAR TO DATE. SO YOU'RE REVENUES IN TOTAL, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, JUST POINTING OUT YOUR MAJOR ONES, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE $15 MILLION.

SALES TAX, $7.9 MILLION. YOUR NEXT BIGGEST ONE IS YOUR PERMITS AT OVER $3 MILLION OR 11%.

SO THIS ONE IS OUR SALES TAX GRAPH, WHICH IS NOT AS PRETTY AS WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE AT THIS POINT.

THE TOP ONE, LIGHT BLUE IS OUR BUDGET THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS YEAR. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED IS WHERE WE ARE ACTUALLY. FROM OCTOBER THROUGH JUNE.

WE HAVE BASICALLY WE ARE BELOW WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED AND WE DETERMINED WE HAVE A MAJOR TAXPAYER WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED SALES TAX WITHIN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS REACHED OUT TO THAT BUSINESS TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE SITUATION IS AND SO, WE'RE WAITING TO GET A RESPONSE BACK.

SO ONCE WE KNOW THAT, WE WILL FORWARD THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.

THEN LOOKING AT EXPENDITURES, OF COURSE, THAT'S JUST TAKING YOUR TOTAL EXPENDITURES AND BREAKING IT DOWN BY CATEGORY IN THIS CHART. YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS YOUR MAJOR EXPENSE FOR THE CITY. AND THE GENERAL FUND AND IT'S AT 37% OR ALMOST $8.3 MILLION. THE NEXT TWO ARE YOUR PUBLIC WORKS AT ABOUT 13% AT $2.9 MILLION AND COMMUNICATIONS

IS AT 13% AT $2.9 MILLION. >> I THINK THAT'S OFF.

>> YEAH. I LOOKED AT -- IT'S LIKE 600.

>> I WAS READY TO CUT ABBIES. I KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING, CUTTING THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT.

THEY'RE RUNNING AT MUCH AS PUBLIC WORKS.

>> WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT ONE.

SHE HAS NO TO $4 MILLION BUDGET. UTILITY FUND.

SAME SET UP. TALKING ABOUT REVENUES.

YOUR CHARGES FOR SERVICES, THE FIRST LINE IS YOUR MAJOR ITEM, YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SALES. AND CONNECTIONS.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT ABOUT 71% OF THE $28 MILLION BUDGET.

NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THE MAJORITY IS GENERATED DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN IT'S WARMER.

SO THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT WE EXPECT BUT I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED AT THIS POINT.

I THINK IT WILL PICK UP. IN TOTAL YOUR REVENUES ARE ABOUT 60% OF THE $40 MILLION BUDGETED. EXPENDITURES, HERE IN TOTAL WE'RE ABOUT $19,003,515 OR 41% OF THE BUDGET.

THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS YOUR FINANCING SOURCES AND USES.

YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS. THOSE WILL HIT TWICE A YEAR, FEBRUARY AND AUGUST. SO YOU'RE FIXING TO MAKE THE FINAL PAYMENTS IN AUGUST. THAT 15 MILLION WILL GO UP TO THE 24.5. SO.

SAME CHART FOR THE UTILITY FUND. REVENUE IS YOU KNOW ABOUT WHERE IT SHOULD BE. MAYBE A LITTLE LESS.

LIKE I SAID, WILL INCREASE OVER THE SUMMER MONTHS AND THE LAST BAR IS YOUR EXPENSES AND AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, ONCE YOU MAKE YOUR PRINCIPLE AND INTERESTS PAYMENTS IN AUGUST, THAT WILL GO UP.

UTILITY REVENUES AGAIN. YOUR MAJOR SOURCES FOR REVENUES IN THE UTILITY FUND IS CHARGES FOR SERVICES IS YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SALES CONNECTIONS. THAT'S 84% OF THE REVENUES AND

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THE NEXT BIGGEST IS TRANSFERS AT 2.8 OR 12%.

AND THAT'S TRANSFER FROM THE IMPACT FEE FUND OR PRINCIPLE PAYMENTS. EXPENDITURES.

THE BIGGEST ONES OF COURSE UTILITY OPERATIONS ARE ABOUT 39%. THEY'RE IN THE LIGHT BLUE.

THE BIG BLUE IS THE BIGGEST ONE. THAT'S YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS.

THE NEXT ONE IS THE EDC. SAME SCENARIO OR FORMAT WE USED BEFORE. HERE SALES TAX IS ABOUT 75% OR $2.7 MILLION OF THE 3.6 THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED.

OTHER REVENUE, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OVER, ALMOST 7.6 MILLION RELATED TO A LAND SALE. AND THE LAST ITEM CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY, THAT IS THE JOINT CITY AND EDC CIP PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING. SO THE 1.6 MILLION IS THE TRANSFER FROM ONE PAY OUT TO DATE.

SO MOVING TO EXPENSES. IN TOTAL IT'S A LITTLE OVER $6 MILLION OR 11% OF THE 56, 57 MILLION BUDGETED.

DEBT PAYMENTS IS A BIG ONE. DEBT SERVICES AND THE SERVICES AND CAPITAL OUTLAY, THE EXPENSES RELATED TO THE TWO JOINT PROJECTS, WHICH IS BRUSHY CREEK AND COUNTY ROAD 137 AND 1660.

SO, IN TOTAL CASH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT $193 MILLION IN CASH. THE BIGGEST ONE IS $114 MILLION OR 68% IS RESTRICTED WITH EITHER CO OR GOS AS THEY'RE FUNDING.

THE OTHER RESTRICT SIDE 23%, THOSE ARE YOUR FUNDS THAT ARE RESTRICTED LIKE YOUR IMPACT FEE FUND, YOUR COMMUNITY BENEFIT FEE. PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND.

TRANSPORTATION. ALL OF THOSE ARE LUMPED INTO THERE. AND THEN YOUR UNRESTRICTED IS RIGHT ABOUT 9% OR 26 MILLION. THAT'S IT.

UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM

COUNCIL? >> YEAH, BACK TO THIS I GUESS DELINQUENT SALES TAXPAYER. DIDN'T WE HEAR THAT LAST -- FOR THE MAY? THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I HAVE

HEARD THIS. >> YOU HEARD AT EDC.

I WILL STOP THERE. >> SO, OBVIOUSLY, Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON THIS. SO CAN YOU, I YOU CAN'T ELABORATE WHO AND AMOUNTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT SEEMS, IT JUST -- SOMEONE IS HAVING -- THIS IS -- ESTIMATED OPINION, OF HAS THIS BEEN A PROBLEM BEFORE

WITH THIS PARTICULAR ENTITY? >> NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

UNTIL WE GET A RESPONSE FROM THEM.

IT'S HARD TO SAY. >> HOW LONG HAVE THEY HAD THAT REQUEST FOR RESPONSE? WE JUST RECENTLY ASKED.

>> THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.

SO I HAVE COMMENTS. OKAY.

SPEAKING OF THEM. YOU SAID IT'S BEEN THREE MONTHS.

>> I BELIEVE IT WAS APRIL OR MAY IS WHEN THEY WERE BEHIND.

I LOOK AT THIS GRAPH, I'M BEATING A DEAD HORSE BECAUSE MY WORLD REVOLVED AROUND ESD. THAT IS THIS YEAR.

>> RIGHT. BLUE IS LAST YEAR AND WE'RE UNDER LAST YEAR THE WHOLE YEAR. THE MAJORITY, WHAT'S THAT?

>> THE BLUE IS THE BUDGET. >> THE BLUE IS THE BUDGET.

THE YELLOW IS LAST YEAR. >> OKAY, MY ARGUMENT IS STILL IS

GOING TO WORK. >> WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, MOST OF OUR 2016 MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES ARE BUILT OUT.

SO EVEN IF YOU TAKE THE RED STARTING WITH PERIOD ONE, WE'RE RIGHT ABOVE THE YELLOW. WE HAD BIGGER GAINS EACH YEAR UNTIL THIS YEAR. AND I WOULD ATTRIBUTE TO WE DON'T HAVE AS MANY NEW BUSINESSES COMING ON AS IN PREVIOUS TIME. WHICH I WILL GET TO THAT.

I CAN SEE THAT IN PERMITS. GOING FORWARD, WE DON'T FIND A RESOLUTION A LONG-TERM RESOLUTION, THE LINES ARE GOING TO BE CLOSER AND CLOSER TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ARE INFLATION ON THE CITY SIDE AND THE NEW GROWTH OF RETAIL THAT COMES IN. IF THAT OPENED UP IN ONE DAY, THAT'S GREAT. IN 10 YEARS THERE MIGHT BE A HUGE DIP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE.

IT'S THE NARROWING OF THE LINES THAT HAS ME CONCERNED.

I KNOW THE BIG JUMPS ARE EQUIPMENT PURCHASES.

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>> THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE. YOU LOOK AT BIG SPIKES IN THE YELLOW. FOR THOSE COUPLE OF MONTHS, WHICH IS MAJOR EXPENSE THAT IS HAPPENED IN' 25 WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED IN '26. SO THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RED, IT'S QUITE A BIT LOW THAN THE YELLOW BECAUSE THE YELLOW IS RECORDING THE MAJOR PURCHASES FOR EQUIPMENT IN THE PRIOR YEAR. BUT, I'M NOT DISCOUNTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M JUST SAYING,

>> I HEAR YOU. PERIOD ONE AND TWO SHOWS WE'RE RUNNING NECK AND NECK WITH LAST YEAR.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE GRAPH WITH THE REVENUES.

>> FOR THE GENERAL FUND. I HAVE A COMMENT THAT WILL GET

ME IN TROUBLE. >> I'M SORRY.

THAT ONE. I DON'T SEE US GROWING.

TO DATE, THE COUNCIL HAS NOT BEEN EAGER TO RAISE TAXES ON EVERYBODY. SO THAT MEANS TAXES ARE 51% AND SALES TAX IS 27%. WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL GROW MUCH. THEN PERMITS AND LICENSES, DRAINAGE FEES. WE PAY $3 A MONTH PER PERSON.

THIS ISN'T FOR THE PUBLIC. IT'S REALLY FOR THE STAFF.

IF WE DON'T RAISE OUR TAXES ON PEOPLE, THE ONLY WAY WE'RE ABLE TO GIVE RAISES AND HIRE MORE BODIES AND NEW EQUIPMENT AND FUN STUFF, SALES TAX GROWTH, PERMITS AND LICENSES.

OUR WATER IMPACT FEES ARE 58% OF WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.

AND I KNOW THOSE VARY, BUT WE SHOULD BE, IF YOU WERE NINE MONTHS OUT OF 12. WE SHOULD BE 75%.

WE'RE RUNNING UNDER THAT. OUR WASTEWATER WHICH IS DRAMATICALLY TIED TO EVERYBODY'S WASTEWATER BILL, WE'RE NOT EVEN 20%. SO WE'RE DOWN WAY, I MEAN, $6.5 MILLION AND HAVE THY MONTHS TO GO.

ALL THE PROJECTIONS FOR HOW WE CHARGE WASTEWATER RATES ARE TIED TO COLLECTING THAT MONEY AND COLLECTING PEOPLE USING WATER.

IF THEY USE LESS WATER AND NOT PAYING IMPACT FEES, SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE THAT UP. THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT CAN MAKE IT UP IS THE RATEPAYERS WHO ALREADY READY TO DRAG US ALL OUTSIDE AND BEAT US BECAUSE THEY'RE PAYING TOO MUCH.

WHAT HAPPEN IS THE PERMITTING LIKE BECAUSE WHY ARE THE IMPACT FEES NOT COMING IN. I GO TO THE PERMITS AND WE HAVE ONLY HAD, NOW THIS IS NOT FISCAL YEAR.

THIS IS CALENDAR YEAR IS MY UNDERSTANDING.

250 RESIDENTIAL PERMITS IN SIX MONTHS.

>> 205. THAT'S -- MINE SAYS 250.

ANYWAY. WHETHER 205 OR 250.

THAT IS LESS THAN WE DID IN 2019.

AND SO, OUR SINGLE FAMILY IS WAY DOWN.

MAYBE WE'RE EXCITED WE'RE NOT GROWING AND THAT'S WHY OUR REVENUES ARE DOWN ON WATER. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE PEOPLE MOVE IN AND PAY FOR THE MASSIVE EXPANSION WE DID.

THEN I LOOK AT COMMERCIAL. WE HAVE THREE PERMITS SO FAR YEAR TO DATE AS OF JULY 2ND REPORT.

WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT MANY SINCE 2017 WHEN WE HAD FOUR.

THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I'M GETTING CITY MANAGER IS PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED THEY CAN'T GET A PROJECT THROUGH OUR CITY.

I DON'T SEE THIS AS A LACK OF DEMAND OR PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO COME HERE. WE JUST RAN A HOME BUILDER THROUGH THE RINGER TO BUILD 2 HUNDRED MILLION HOMES OVER A TIA THAT GOT WORKED OUT. THAT YEAR-LONG DELAY, AFFECTS OUR IMPACT FEES AND OUR UTILITY REVENUE.

AND IT'S OVERALL AFFECTING THE FINAL HEALTH OF THE CITY TO THE POINT IF WE DON'T FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET PROJECTS THROUGH FASTER. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE LOWER THE STANDARDS, WE GOT TO STOP BEING THE SPEED BUMP STOPPING EVERYTHING. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HIRE MORE PEOPLE AND GIVE RAISES. THE ONLY OTHER OPTION IS RAISE EVERYBODY'S WATER BILL. I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HAS THE STOMACH FOR THAT OUR TELL EVERYBODY WE HAVE TO RAISE THEIR TAXES AND EVENTUALLY PEOPLE SAY WHY AREN'T WE GETTING MORE GROWTH? IT'S ALL TIED IN ENGINEERING, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OR LEGAL. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING LOOKING AT NUMBERS. AS A CITY HALL WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WE GOT TO START WORKING AS A TEAM AND FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET PROJECTS OUT HERE FASTER. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING.

I SEE THE SLOWEST GROWTH SINCE 2017.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CONTINUE.

THE LAST COUPLE NUMBERS I HAVE IS, OUR BUILDING PERMIT FEES ARE

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AT 63%. WHICH AGAIN, MY MATH SAYS WE SHOULD BE CLOSER TO 75. OUR BUILDING INSPECTION FEES OF 63. OUR PARK LAND DEDICATION FEE.

WE HAVE REQUESTS TO SPEND $5 MILLION ON PARKS AND WE'RE AT 14 AND A HALF PERCENT OF WHAT WE BUDGETED THAT.

ONLY COLLECTED $29,000 IN PARK LAND DEDICATION FEES.

ALMOST EVERY DEVELOPMENT PAYS FOR THAT.

KIND OF LIKE THE THING AS WE GET TO BUDGET SEASON, IF WE DON'T HAVE PLANS, THE UDC IS IT STUCK. WE HANDED OFF TO STAFF, FEBRUARY. MAYOR PRO TEM.

>> SIX MONTHS AGO. IF WE DON'T HURRY GETTING SOMETHING GOING, WE CAN CIRCUMVENT STAFF.

IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING DONE, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR FINANCIAL NUMBERS GET BETTER AND WE'RE PUTTING PRESSURE ON ALBERTA TO DO LESS IMPACT FEES AND LESS WITH TAXES AND SOMEHOW STILL MAKE THE CITY GO. THAT'S MY THING I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER. THE REST OF US HAVE TO TEAM UP.

WE HAVE TO HAVE GROWTH COME THROUGH HERE.

IT'S NOT BEING THE 13TH FASTER GROWING.

WE'RE NOT EVEN GROWING AT THIS POINT.

JUST NUDGING ALONG. JUST CONCERNS I HAVE THAT GOING INTO BUDGET SEASON. I HOPE EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES WE GOT TO, WE'RE OUTSPENDING WHAT WE'RE TAKING IN.

ANY OTHER? THANKS ALBERTA.

I WILL GO EASY ON YOU BUDGET TIME.

[7.3. Presentation and Discussion of the 100% Justice Center Design Prior to Consideration of Calling a Bond Election. (David Amsler)]

>> THE MOMENT I KNOW A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR.

ITEM 7 C, PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE 100% JUSTICE CENTER DESIGN PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION OF CALLING A BOND

ELECTION. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. DAVID AMSLER.

DIRECTOR OF THE STRATEGIC OPERATIONS.

WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM PBK WHO WILL RUN THE COUNCIL THROUGH THE PROCESS WHO HAS BROUGHT US HERE AND WHAT THE PROJECT LOOKS LIKE. COME ON UP.

HOPEFULLY YOU SAVED $10 MILLION OFF OF IT TOO.

>> ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND MR. MAYOR.

I AM JESSICA I AM HERE WITH PBK ARCHITECTS AND HERE WITH A COUPLE OF MY COLLEAGUE. SCOTT SMITH AND HEATHER RURAL.

I WANT TO RUN THROUGH WHAT WE HAVE BEEN UP TO FOR THE LAST FIVE AND A HALF MONTHS. JUST A QUICK AGENDA.

I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN A BIT OF THIS AND SOME OF YOU ARE PROBABLY NEW TO THIS. A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AND WILL RUN THROUGH THIS QUICKLY AS WELL.

SO QUICK OVERVIEW. WE STARTED THIS PROCESS, PREPARE BROUGHT ON BOARD IN FEBRUARY AND STARTED WORKING WITH YOUR TEAM AND VERIFYING WHAT THEY HAD ALREADY GIVEN IN THE WAY OF A PROGRAM FOR THIS PROJECT. WE WORKED THROUGH SCHEMATIC PHASE AND MET WITH YOUR STEERING COMMITTEE AND WORKED WITH THE EDC ON DETERMINING THE SITE AND ALSO PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL WORKSHOP AND SUB COMMITTEE AS WELL.

IN APRIL AND MAY. WE HAVE DONE A TOUR THE ROUND ROCK PD AND ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS ON THE CMAR PROCESS OR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK PROCESS.

WE ARE IN THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT PHASE, WHICH IS REALLY WHEN WE GET THE LESS ATTRACTIVE LOOKING PLANS BUT THE ONES YOUR CONTRACT OR ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO START THE PROJECT ALL WRAPPED UP. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE COMING UP.

WE STILL HAVE A LOT ON OUR PLATE BEFORE THIS BEGINS CONSTRUCTION.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE DECISIONS MADE AND THE DESIGN DONE IN A VERY TIMELY MATTER BECAUSE WE'RE COMING UP ON AUGUST 15TH IS YOUR DEADLINE TO POTENTIALLY CALL A BOND FOR THIS FALL. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON ESTIMATING HERE AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS TIED UP. FROM AN OVERVIEW ON THE PROCESS HERE. WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT BEING WRAPPED UP WITH OUR DESIGN DRAWINGS BY DECEMBER 7TH.

BEING ABLE TO PUT IT OUT TO BID AND HOPEFULLY STARTING CONSTRUCTION IN EARLY APRIL. THAT'S WHEN WE HAND OFF TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THEY BREAK GROUND ON IT.

FIRST A LITTLE BIT ON THE SITE. THIS IS THE SITE THAT WAS SELECTED. IT'S ABOUT A 16 ACRE PROPERTY AND IT'S ON JUST SOUTH OF LIMMER LOOP AND JUST WEST OF COUNTY ROAD 132. THIS IS A GREAT SPOT AND KEEPS

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YOUR PD FURTHER AWAY FROM 79 AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND GIVES THEM ROOM TO MOVE ABOUT AND EXPANSION FOR THE FUTURE AS YOUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. THIS IS JUST A MASTER PLAN WHAT COULD BE GOING NEXT TO IT. THAT'S ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND IN THE FUTURE. SO THIS IS A BLOWUP OF THE SITE PLAN HERE. JUST LOOKING AT PHASE ONE, WE KIND OF CREATED A PHASED-APPROACH TO HOW THIS COULD BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE.

YOU WILL SEE HERE WE'VE GOT OUR ENTRANCES OUCH LIMMER LOOP.

ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, YOU WILL SEE A NEW ROAD, THE BEGINNING I FUTURE BOULEVARD THAT WILL RUN NORTH SOUTH AND THE DIFFERENT ARROWS ARE IN RED. THAT WOULD BE IF YOU ARE COMING IN FROM THE COMMUNITY TO VISIT THIS BUILDING.

THAT WOULD BE YOUR ENTRY POINTS AND YOUR ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING IS STARRED THERE. AND THEN IF YOU WORK IN THE PD, THOSE ARE YOUR ENTRANCES IN BLUE, AND THE STAR IS WHERE THEY WOULD ENTER THE BUILDING. VERY SEPARATED THERE.

VERY SECURE IN THE BACK LOT AREA.

FOR YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE BIGGER BUILDING IS THE MAIN JUSTICE BUILDING AND SUPPORT BUILDING ON THE RIGHT.

HOLDS THE SUPPORT FACILITIES. SO, THIS IS A VIEW OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE AS THIS CONTINUES TO EXPAND.

SO AS YOUR NEEDS AND YOUR PD CONTINUE TO EXPAND, WE MASTER PLANNED IN A FUTURE TRAINING BEEN JUST TO THE SOUTH.

AND THIS WOULD EXPAND ADDITIONAL PARKING AND HAVE MORE OUTDOOR TRAINING AREA AS WELL. AND THEN IN A PHASE THREE, THERE IS ROOM FOR ANOTHER BUILDING OFF TO THE WEST TO SUPPORT WHATEVER PUBLIC NEEDS YOU MIGHT HAVE AT THAT TIME.

IT COULD HAVE ITS OWN ENTRY AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO HAND THAT OFF TO SCOTT WHO IS OUR DESIGNER TO GO OVER THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE VIEWS OF THE BUILDING. ALL RIGHT.

THANKS FOR HAVING US. HIGHLIGHTS, THIS IS LEVEL ONE FLOOR PLAN. YOU HAVE A PUBLIC LOBBY AS YOU FIRST WALK IN AT THE RED STAR. OTHER SPACES OFF THE LOBBY ARE RECORDS WHICH WOULD BE YOUR FRONT WINDOW.

LARGE TRAINING ROOM WITH A BREAK OUT CONFERENCE ROOM.

A STAIR THAT GOES UPSTAIRS TO A SECOND FLOOR LOBBY.

THE LARGE SPACE IN BLUE IS PATROL WITH LOCKERS TO LEFT OF IT AND THEN THE BROWN AND PURPLE AND GREEN IS BLOCK IS EVIDENCE AND FORENSICS. ANYTHING IN DARK GRAY IS CORE SPACES, THE NITTY-GRITTY TO MAKE A BUILDING WORK AND THE LARGE BLOCK AT THE TOP IS IS BUILD OUT FOR FUTURE DISPATCH CENTER.

JUMPING UP TO LEVEL TWO. THE YELLOW THERE IS PUBLIC LOBBY. YOU CAN GET THERE FROM A STAIR OR ELEVATOR. THERE ARE A FEW PUBLIC AREAS UP HERE THAT COULD BE ACCESSED. SUCH AS PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS, SEMIPUBLIC OFFICERS WHICH HAVE A COMMUNITY RESOURCE OFFICER AND CODE REINFORCEMENT. AND THE PURPLE ARE DETECTIVES, INVESTIGATIONS AND VICTIM SERVICES.

THERE'S A SERIES OF INTERVIEW ROOMS ON THIS LEVEL.

THERE'S A COUPLE DOWNSTAIRS AS WELL.

AND BLUE IS ADMIN. THAT'S WHERE THE CHIEF SUITE IS AND THE LIGHTER GRAY ARE AND AMENITIES BREAK ROOM AND AN OUTDOOR DECK FOR THE STAFF. THIS IS THE SUPPORT BUILDING.

WHICH IS DETACHED FROM THE MAIN BUILDING ACROSS THE PARKING LOT.

THE MAJORITY OF THIS ARE VEHICULAR BAYS FOR STORAGE AND TO WORK ON THE DIFFERENT VEHICLES FOR THE PD.

THERE'S ALSO SWAT OUT HERE WITH A LOCKER ROOM FOR THEM AND A WORKSPACE AND THIS IS WHERE THE GYM IS FOR THE WHOLE FACILITY.

WITH A DEFENSE TACTICS ROOM. CANINE, ANIMAL CONTROL WILL ALSO BE HERE AND SOME DRONE STORAGE. THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.

THIS WOULD BE THE FRONT OF THE DOOR.

THE LEFT IMAGE IS THE FRONT DOOR OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S A MIXTURE OF STONES. TEXAS LIME STONE AND LUTER STONE AND A COUPLE DIFFERENT METAL PANELS.

THAT BEIGE COLOR AND DARKER CHARCOAL COLOR.

ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE FRONT SHOWING THE EAST FACADE AND THE NEW ROAD WOULD BE TO THE LEFT OF US.

THIS IS THE SECOND WAY TO GET IN FOR THE PUBLIC AND FLIPPING AROUND ON THE OTHER SIDE. JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THE BUILDING THERE. EVENING SHOTS, THE LOBBY WOULD BE WELL LIT. AND INVITING FOR THE PUBLIC.

THIS IS WE'RE STARTING TO DESIGN A SPACE BUT THIS IS THE IDEA OF

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WHAT THE SIZE OF THE ROOF TERRACE LOOKS LIKE.

THIS IS JUST OFF THE PD BREAK ROOM.

SO OUR OFFICERS CAN GET SOME OUTDOOR AIR WHILE THEY EAT THEIR LUNCH. JUST INSIDE, THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC LOBBY IS SHAPING UP TO LOOK LIKE.

THERE COULD BE DISPLAY WALL THERE.

MORE COMMUNITY INTEGRITY SERVICE AND HONOR.

IF YOU CAME IN AND NEEDED TO TALK TO SOMEONE, THAT'S WHERE YOU GO. BEHIND US IS THE TRAINING ROOM AND DISPATCH IS LED DOWN THE HALL WAY PAST A COUPLE RESTROOMS. THIS FLIPS AROUND THE OTHER WAY AND LOOKS TOWARD THE TRAINING ROOM AND CONFERENCE ROOM.

YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF LOBBY ABOVE AND JUMPING UPSTAIRS.

ANOTHER GOOD DISPLAY OPPORTUNITY, MAYBE THE CHIEF'S WALL OR DEDICATION FOR THEM. UP HERE THIS AREA WOULD BE AN AREA WHERE IF YOU WERE COMING TO GET RECRUITED FOR THE P D, YOU COULD LAND HERE AND TALK TO AN OFFICER.

>> IS THAT JESSICA? >> YEAH, SHE WILL BE UP THERE.

>> THIS IS INSIDE THE TRAINING ROOM.

THIS IS A CITY ASSET AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.

HAS A DIVIDABLE WALL. THIS CAN BE BROKEN INTO TWO SPACES WHICH GIVES THE PD FLEXIBILITY TO HOLD MULTIPLE THINGS AT ONCE. THIS IS OFF THE CONFERENCE ROOM OFF THE STAIR AND TRAINING ROOM. WE HAVE AN ANIMATION WITH MUSIC MAYBE.

>> THANK YOU, SCOTT. AND THE LAST ITEM HERE ON OUR AGENDA IS THE OPINION OF COST. SOME OF Y'ALL SAW THIS THE LAST TIME I PRESENTED. WE HAVE DONE A LOT BIT OF PAIRING THIS DOWN TO WHAT WOULD BE ASKED FOR IN A BOND.

WHAT I BROUGHT IN BEFORE HAD SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AS WELL AS OTHER COSTS. THIS IS PAIRED DOWN WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE DIFFERENT NUMBERS. ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE THE MAIN PD THAT YOU JUST SAW, THE FLY THROUGH, IT DID GET SMALLER.

WE WERE ABLE TO TRIM THAT DOWN TO 45,000 SQUARE FEET AND OUR POLICE ASSET BUILDING, THE SMALLER ONE STORY BUILDING AT 7000. AND WE HAVE THOSE PRICED AT 750 AND $550 A SQUARE FOOT. THESE ARE OPINIONS OF COST.

WE WILL BE HANDING THIS OFF TO A CMAR QUICKLY TO COME UP WITH HARDER NUMBERS TO INFORM THE BOND.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR SITE PAVING AS YOU CAN SEE IN WHAT WE HAVE SHOWN YOU. THERE'S A LOT OF SITE PAVING WHEN YOU HAVE SHIFT CHANGES, YOU HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES TO TRANSITION IN AND OUT OF THERE. WE HAVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND WALL. THAT WALL IS THE PERIMETER SCREEN THAT GOES AROUND THE SITE AND AN FF& E, OUR FURNITURE FIXTURES TO EQUIPMENT WHICH IS REALLY HOW YOU FINISH OUT THE BUILDING WITH WORK STATIONS AND ALL OF THAT.

WE HAVE ESCALATION AND CONTINGENCY FUND.

THAT'S BEEN LOWERED SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU SAW IT.

THAT IS LOWER AND SEEMS APPROPRIATE TO LOWER THAT.

SO AGAIN, YOUR CMAR WILL BE WORKING ON HARDER NUMBERS FOR THIS ESTIMATE INDEPENDENTLY FROM US.

WE HAVE BEEN SHARING A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION TO HELP INFORM THAT PROCESS. SO THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU

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WILL SEE MY ESTIMATES AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE SEEING THEIR ESTIMATES FROM HERE ON OUT.

SO FOR NEXT STEPS HERE. WE HAVE THE CMAR AWARD.

THE SITE SURVEY IS UNDER WAY AND THE GEO TECHNICAL REPORT.

THESE ARE ALL THE ENGINEERING STUDIES WE NEED FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE AND THEN AS WE UNDERSTAND, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING ON AUGUST 6TH TO POTENTIALLY CALL A BOND. FOR OUR CMR TEAM AND PBK, WE HELD A FORUM ON TUESDAY NIGHT AT THE PD AND ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO IS INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE WHAT THEIR SPACE IS LIKE NOW AND HOW THIS WILL CHANGE THE ENVIRONMENT THEY'RE WORKING IN, WE HAVE ANOTHER FORUM ON AUGUST 5TH.

OF COURSE, WE WILL BE WORKING ON FINALIZING THAT COST ESTIMATE AS WELL. SO, WITH THAT, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU, JESSICA. QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM

COUNCIL? >> JUST ONE QUESTION.

ON THE LEVEL 2 FLOOR PLAN, THIS IS WAY LATE IN THE GAME.

I'M NOT ASKING ANYONE TO DO THAT.

ON THE SECOND STORY, IS IT, IS THE STRUCTURE CAPABLE OF PUTTING ADDING ADDITIONAL SECOND STORY OVER THE FUTURE DISPATCH AND OVER WHERE THE FORENSICS IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR?

>> IT'S NOT BEING DESIGNED THAT WAY.

IT CAN BE DONE. IT'S VERY TRICKY AND EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM ON THE SITE. I THINK IN FUTURE ADDITIONS, IT PROBABLY WOULD BE EASIER AND MORE COST EFFECTIVE TO JUST

SIMPLY BUILD ADDITIONAL. >> THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER.

THANK YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU WERE ABLE TO REDUCE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. WHERE IN THE DESIGN PROCESS IF WE NEEDED TO TRIM DOWN EVEN FURTHER, WHERE WOULD THAT HAPPEN? WHERE WOULD BE THE MOST FEASIBLE

PLACE TO CUT BACK ON COSTS? >> SO I THINK SOME OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE WAS AND REDUNDANT PUBLIC SPACES THAT COULD VERY EASILY, WE RECONFIGURED A LITTLE BIT AND WERE ABLE TO USE ONE PUBLIC SPACE TO SEVEN BOTH FUNCTIONS.

I THINK CUTTING FURTHER IS GOING TO END UP CUTTING PROGRAMMING.

SO THAT MIGHT BE WHAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY END UP DOING IS CUTTING INTO THE FUTURE PROOFING OF THE PROJECT.

YOU KNOW LOOKING AT THE PROGRAM, THE IDEA WAS TO TRY TO BUILD THIS FOR AT LEAST A 10 YEAR OUTLOOK.

AND SO FOR CUTTING FURTHER FROM THAT POINT, WE PROBABLY WOULD BE CUTTING THAT, YOU PROBABLY WOULD BE LOOKING AT ADDING ON OR EXPANDING THIS FACILITY SOONER THAN LATER.

>> THAT'S ONE OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP DURING THE TOUR.

HOW LONG BEFORE WE NEED TO GROW IT.

SOME PEOPLE WERE CONCERN BODY THE COST.

IF WE CUT IT BACK ALREADY, WHAT ARE FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY COMPROMISE THE QUALITY AND THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER, THAT LESSEN THE BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYER. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE BOTH SIDES OF

THAT. >> YES.

AND JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TOO, IS THAT THE ESCALATION, AND ESCALATION OF CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES TO RISE.

THE BEST TIME TO REALLY BUILD SOMETHING IS NOW.

IT WILL ALWAYS COST -- >> THE BEST TIME WAS REALLY FIVE YEARS AGO. SO, YOU'RE REALLY, YOU'RE BUILDING FOR THE FUTURE WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING NOW AS WELL.

>> ANY ADDED DELAY IN REDUCTION. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WE'RE WAY BEHIND. I THINK WE'RE AT 11,000 SQUARE

FEET AT THE CURRENT. >> 11 OR 12,000 YES.

>> I MEAN, AND THAT'S EASILY FIVE TO 15 YEARS OUTDATED.

DEPENDING ON SERVICES WE WANT TO ADD ON.

I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB IN CUTTING IT DOWN. ESPECIALLY FROM PREVIOUS DESIGNS AND THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED. SO, THANK YOU SIR.

GETTING TUCKED THE MIC. I JUST DON'T SEE ANY OTHER COST SAVING. I THINK ORIGINALLY SOME COUNCILMEMBERS WERE LOOKING AT $75,000, $80,000 AND A LOT MORE

SQUARE FOOTAGE THAN THIS. >> 75 TO 80

>> MILLION. THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE ZERO CAFFEINE TONIGHT. BUT, NO, I THINK YOU HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB. IT'S A LOT, SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE PREVIOUS, BOTH THE DESIGN COST AND FINAL COST WE'RE NARROWING DOWN. I LIKE WHAT IT IS AND WHAT Y'ALL

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ARE DOING. I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT SITE THAT EDC HAS OFFERED TO US. THANK YOU I APPRECIATE IT.

>> I WANT TO ALL ECHO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS JUSTED.

Y'ALL HAVE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH.

I LIKE THE LAYOUT. AND THE PROPOSED WHAT THE PROPOSED JUSTICE CENTER IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT THE CITY PUT OUT THERE DAVID WITH THE VIDEO AND PLANS WE SAW HERE.

BUT ALSO THE ABILITY FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS HAD THE CHANCE TO BE ON THAT WEBSITE, TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN YOUR ASSESSESED HOME VALUE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW AND GET A FEEL FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST EACH RESIDENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I JUMPED ON IMMEDIATELY. AND BASED ON THE CURRENT ASSESSED VALUE OF MY HOME, IT WOULD COST MY WIFE AND I $0.45 A DAY. $13.75 A MONTH.

$165 ANNUALLY. YOU KNOW.

SO, AND EVERYBODY HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT.

SO, I KNOW THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE THE MOST THAT WE CAN TO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH EVERYBODY THAT I HAVE TALKED TO HAS BEEN IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH.

I THINK THIS MEETS THE NEED AND YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY CAN FACTOR IN WHETHER IT'S GOING TO MEET OR EXCEED THEIR BUDGETS OR NOT.

I MEAN, I CAN SPEND $165 ANNUALLY.

TO SUPPORT THIS. BUT EACH PERSON OUT THERE WHO WILL BE VOTING ON THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR THEMSELVES. BUT, OUTSTANDING JOB AND DEPENDING ON HOW THIS MOVES FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO SAY TOO, YOUR TEAM AT THE CITY HAS BEEN AMAZING TO WORK WITH.

WE HAVE ENJOYED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND IT'S REALLY BEEN MADE IT AN EASY

PROCESS FOR US. >> HOPE THE PERMITTING GOES

QUICK. >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING. CAN YOU GO TO THE SLIDE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT.

IT MAYBE OUT THERE NEW TO IT. I THINK TO JUSTIFY THE COSTS AND SHOW LIKE WHERE YOUR $750 PER SQUARE FOOT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN GOOGLE AND SAY PRICE FOR SQUARE FOOT FOR NORMAL COMMERCIAL SPACE WOULD BE X.

PERHAPS THERE'S A LIST OF MATERIALS USED.

SO YOU CAN SEE OBVIOUSLY THIS ISN'T A TYPICAL COMMERCIAL STYLE BUILDING. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME BULLET PROOF GLASS. YOU AND GUYS SHARED WITH THAT.

IS IT STEEL? WOOD? TO JUSTIFY THAT NUMBER FOR $750 PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN A

TYPICAL COMMERCIAL BUILDING. >> IT IS.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE ARE A LOT OF SPECIALTY SYSTEMS IN THERE AND MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT.

AND JUST ROBUSTNESS THAT YOU DON'T SEE IN A TYPICAL FACILITY.

WE'RE BUILDING THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE OWNER OCCUPANTS OF THIS AND WANT TO LAST FOR GENERATIONS IT'S NOT THE SAME AS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT IS SOLD IMMEDIATELY.

IT IS DEFINITELY BUILT FOR THE LONG-TERM.

>> AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CITIZENS OF HUTTO IT UNDERSTAND THAT TOO. IT'S NOT JUST A NORMAL AND IT'S NOT HOOKY. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS. WITH WITH STANDS STORM SHELTER.

THE PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT IS JUSTIFIED.

IF YOU ADD A MATERIALS LIST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S A GREAT, I CAME THE OTHER NIGHT, WENT THROUGH YOUR OPEN HOUSE. GREAT PRESENTATION.

EXCITED. I KNOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS

TOO. >> VERY EXCITED.

>> I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS IS SAYING.

FROM A TRANSPARENCY POINT OF VIEW.

EVERYBODY IS USING AI. YOU CAN BUILD FOR A PRICE PER

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SQUARE FOOT. EVERYBODY KNOWS THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND THE BEST WAY AND SO, I THINK IT WOULD BE JUST SOMETHING AS WE TRY TO SELL PEOPLE AND THE COST, WE'RE NOT BUILDING A STRIP CENTER HERE. WE HAVE TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT UNFORTUNATELY NOT EVERYBODY IS PRO-POLICE.

SO SOMEONE MAY COME IN AND TRY TO GET STUPID AND SO THERE'S PRECAUTIONS AND SECURITY AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO THAT.

BUT ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP BECAUSE ANY TIME MY GUESS IS WHEN IT GETS CLOSER TO BOND TIME AND VOTING, WE ALL SEVEN OF US TOOK A PAY OUT AND GETTING A CUT.

IT'S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN NOW. THE ONLY COMMENT IS THIS ISN'T YOU GUYS, IT'S REALLY MORE ON STAFF.

THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WE HAVE LISTED FOR THE 911 CENTER, SO, I HAVE HEARD THIS FROM THE COUNTY MULTIPLE TIMES.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE. I CAN'T BUILD ONE AND START OPERATING IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LICENSE.

I HAVE BEEN HOLD THAT'S NOT AN EASY LICENSE TO COME BY.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T GET SO FAR DOWN THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, DO YOU HAVE HOW MANY SQUARE FEET

APPROXIMATELY THAT ADDITION IS? >> THAT'S ABOUT 4500 IF I

REMEMBER. >> DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT POTENTIALLY 3-1/2 MILLION ON A SYSTEM IF WE DON'T GET'S PERMIT, YOU HAVE LEARNED ABOUT ME, I'M GOING AFTER THE STAFF MEMBER THAT SAID HEY GO DO THIS AND WE WILL GET YOU THIS LICENSE.

IF WE CAN'T GET THE LICENSE, WHY DID WE BUILD THIS.

I WOULD ASK FROM STAFF STANDPOINT BEFORE WE GO TO BOND, LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROCESS IS IN ON LICENSE AND THE ESTIMATED ABILITY TO GET IT. THEY ARE GOING TO GET REALLY UPSET IF WE BUILD A BUILDING AND TELL EVERYONE WE HAVE 911 SERVICES AND COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS AND SAY JUST KIDDING.

SO-AND-SO WON'T LET US HAVE A LICENSE.

WE KNOW WHAT THE ODDS ARE GETTING THE LICENSE AND WHAT IS THE LABOR TO DO IT? I THINK THE COUNTY RIPS US OFF SINCE WE ALREADY PAY THIS IN TAXES.

THE ONLY THING WORSE IS DOING IT FOR YOURSELF.

WE SPENT 3-1/2 MILLION DOLLARS MORE.

EVERYTHING ELSE I'M WITH COUNCILMEMBER KING.

WE HAVE BEEN ROUND AND ROUND. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW BIG THE URINALS ARE. ARE YOU PUTTING IN ENOUGH TOILETS? YOU'RE TALKING $750 A SQUARE FOOT. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW BIG IS THE CHIEF'S OFFICE. IT'S NOT BIGGER THAN THE CITY MANAGER'S WHO HAS THE BIGGEST ONE THAT I HAVE SEEN.

THAT'S NOT BECAUSE OF HIM. >> I JUST GET TO SIT IN IT.

BUT WE HAVE SCRUTINIZED IN MY MIND EVERY SINGLE COST SHORT OF WE DON'T BUILD A POLICE STATION. I DON'T THINK THAT'S POSSIBLE TO NOT BUILD A POLICE STATION. FROM A RETENTION STANDPOINT, FOR THE ABILITY AND JUST TO MAINTAIN OUR RANKINGS IN HOW SAFE OUR CITY IS, MORALE, YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

IT'S A 45,000 SQUARE FOOT TOO BIG.

MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN 40,000 OUR 42,000.

WE'RE TALKING NOT MEANINGFUL THINGS.

THOSE TWO THINGS WILL HELP A LOT WHAT COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS SAID AND ANYTHING WE CAN GET INFORMATION FROM 911 AND THE COST OF THAT. IT'S NOT TOO LATE TO SCRAP IT.

ONCE YOU BUILD IT, EVERYBODY IS GOING TO EXPECT IT.

BUT ANYWAY. YOU GUYS HAVE DONE GREAT AND APPRECIATE YOU HUSTLING. BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR DEAL WAS. YOU GOT US CAUGHT BACK UP.

[8. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

>> APPRECIATE YOU SHOULD TIME. >> BEING THIS.

-- THANK YOU. >> THAT BRINGS UP TO CONSENT AGENDA. 81 THROUGH 8.10.

ANYTHING ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 8.5 AND 8.7.

I WOULD LIKE TO PULL 8.1 AND 8.6.

>> SO THAT LEAVES 8.3, 8.9 AND 10 FOR CONSIDERATION.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.3, 8.4, 8.8, 8.9, 8.10.

>> SECOND. >> AS PRESENTED.

>> SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KING.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.

COUNCILMEMBER >> AYE.

THORNTON. >> AYE.

MORRIS. >> AYE.

SNYDER. AYE.

>> ENTRY PED >>

[8.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-147 designating Core Construction, Inc. Georgetown, Texas the Construction Manager at Risk in accordance with Texas Government Code §2269.056(a), as the Most Qualified Firm for “Construction Manager at Risk” services associated with the Justice Center Project. (Kate Moriarty)]

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KING. >> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES, 7-ZERO. CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-147. DESIGNATING CORE CONSTRUCTION INCORPORATED GEORGETOWN, TEXAS, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK IN ACCORDANCE WITH TEXT SECTION 2269 POINT A AS THE MOST QUALIFIED FIRM ASSOCIATED WITH THE JUSTICE CENTER PROJECT.

>> GOOD EVENING, KATE MORYARTY. HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THERE

MIGHT BE. >> YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, WHEN I READ THROUGH THIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INFORMATION WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE DID A BIG PROJECT. MAYBE GET MORE INFORMATION ON

WHO EXACTLY >> WHO RESPONDED?

>> WHO RESPONDED AND I GUESS WHAT CAUSED OTHER PEOPLE TO MAKE IT AND NOT MAKE IT? IT'S SUCH A BIG PROJECT THAT I WAS LOOKING THROUGH HERE. YOU GUYS HAVE IF I REMEMBER RIGHT. YOU GUYS RECEIVED 12 AND THREE WERE SHORT LISTED. I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY TO KNOW THE THREE. I ALWAYS FIND IT ODD WHEN IT'S A $40 MILLION PROJECT. 12 PEOPLE RESPONDED AND HERE'S THE ONE WE PICKED. IT DOESN'T SAY WHY WE PICKED THEM. WHAT MADE THEM BETTER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE. SO JUST ANYTHING YOU CAN LEGALLY PROVIDE BEFORE I PICK A PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BUILD A PLAGUE FOR $42 MILLION ON BUDGET, WITH NO CHANGE ORDERS.

>> ON TIME. >> ON TIME.

I'M JUST HOPING, I DON'T EVEN THINK YOU TOLD US WHO WAS SELECTED. WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE THAT

PICKED IT? >> THAT'S IN THE AIR AND CITY MANAGER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. THE CHIEF THE POLICE.

CIP ENGINEER AND CIP PROGRAM MANAGER.

AND THEN WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM PBK ARCHITECTS.

>> SO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO IT PUBLICLY OR SEND TO US

BEHIND THE SCENES SO WE KNOW. >> WE CAN DEFINITELY DO IT PUBLICLY. I HAVE SEEN THESE DONE WITH BID TABS WHERE YOU SEE THE TOP AT LEAST THE FINALISTS WHO GOT FINALLY SCORED. THE TOP THREE WERE CORE, WHO IS CAME IN NUMBER ONE. BARTLETT COCK AND SUPPLY GLASS

WHO CAME IN NUMBER THREE. >> I THOUGHT THEY JUST DID

GLASS. >> SPA GLASS?

>> NO. >> WELL GOOD THING YOU WEREN'T

ON THE COMMITTEE THEN. >> IT'S ALL ABOUT ASKING QUESTIONS AND GETTING INFORMATION.

YOU GUYS KNOW ME. I ASK A MILLION.

OKAY. YEAH, ANYTHING YOU CAN SHARE ON THE BACKSIDE, JUST TO KNOW IF IT WAS CLOSE.

>> YEAH, IT WAS CLOSE. AND THIS SCORES SINCE THEY'RE NOT IN THE PACKET, WE'LL SEND THAT AROUND.

IT WAS CLOSE. I THINK CORE ENDED UP WHAT,

>> OVER BY A POINT. BY THE SECOND.

>> ARE THEY HERE TONIGHT? >> THE CORE IS RIGHT HERE.

THE NEXT IS TO AWARD THEM. >> ON BUDGET.

ON TIME. AND WE HATE CHANGE ORDERS.

>> ZERO CHANGE ORDERS. >> TO THE POINT WHERE YOU SAY THAT BUT EVERYBODY COMES UP AND ALWAYS TELL US THE SAME THING.

NO PROBLEM. AND IN SIX MONTHS LATER.

SOMETHING POPS UP AND I'M TELLING YOU, I THINK OUR PATIENCE IS GETTING THIN ON CHANGE ORDERS.

WE GOT ANOTHER ON CONSTRUCTION COUNCIL.

WE'RE STARTING TO SAY NO. YOU CAN STILL BOW OUT.

>> I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE CHANGE ORDERS.

I HAVE TO PUT ON A DIFFERENT HAT ON THIS SIDE.

I LIKE THEM ON YOUR SIDE. >> HE TELLS ME ABOUT THE CHANGE ORDERS. THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE I PRESS EVERYBODY BECAUSE I KNOW THE BUSINESS A LITTLE BIT.

JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OFF MY CHEST.

>> THE GOOD THING IS ABOUT SEYMOUR UNLESS WE CHANGE THE SCOPE OR WE CHANGE SOMETHING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GIVING US A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AND IT WILL NOD EXCEED THAT.

IF WE CHANGE SOMETHING, IT COULD.

>> THAT'S JUST THE NEXT ARGUMENT.

YOU CHANGED SOMETHING. NOW WE HAVE TO HIT YOU.

I NEVER HAD A CONSTRUCTION GUY COME UP HERE AND GO IT'S 100% ON US. IT'S A GOOD THING PBK GOT THEIR WORK DONE AND ARGUE IT'S NOT CROOKED ENOUGH TO WARRANT.

>> WE DID ASK CORE IF THEY WOULD BUILDING STRAIGHT WALLS.

>> THEY LAUGH, THEY'RE GOING TO LEARN.

>> NO ACTION. SO, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO

APPROVE 8.1 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

[01:35:06]

MAYOR SNYDER SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AYE. KING.

>> AYE. ZEPEDA.

AYE. MORRIS.

>> AYE. MOTHER PORTERFIELD.

[ 8.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-148 authorizing the City Manager to execute a Professional Services Agreement between CORE Construction Services of Texas, Inc. and the City of Hutto for Preconstruction Services for the Police Department Justice Center Project in the amount of $35,000 (CIP F02-2024). (Kate Moriarty).]

AYE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

WE HAVE 8.2. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON R-2026-148. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN CORE CONSTRUCTION AND THE CITY OF HUTTO FOR PRECONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT JUSTICE CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $35,000. I ONLY PULLED THIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT 8.1 AND APPROVE EIGHT TWO.

I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 8.2 AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. DISCUSSION? CALL THE VOTE. MORRIS.

AYE. KING.

AYE. REASON OELGDZ.

>> OLD REYNOLD. >> AYE.

PORTERFIELD. >> AYE.

ZEPEDA. >> AYE.

[ 8.5. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-032 amending the fee schedule for deposits and service charges associated with Utilities. (Christina Bishop)]

MOTION PASSES 7-0. OKAY.

NEXT 18.5. THANK YOU FOLKS FOR COMING

TONIGHT. >> FEEL FREE TO CUT MONEY OUT OF THAT. AS YOUR LOOKING THROUGH IT.

>> NEGATIVE CHANGE ORDER. >> STRAIGHT ONES.

8.5. CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE 0-2026-032. AMENDING THE FEE SCHEDULE FOR DEPOSITS AND SERVICE CHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH UTILITIES.

>> HI. THANK YOU.

I JUST WANT MORE INFORMATION. WHAT IS THE AMENDMENTS AND

CHANGES AND THE IMPACT OF THEM? >> SURE IT ENCOMPASSES A FEW CHANGES. FIRST IS DEPOSITS FOR WATER AND WASTEWATER. WHEN WE REVIEW THE CURRENT DEPOSITS, THEY'RE NOT ADEQUATELY CHARGING AN APPROPRIATE AMOUNT.

IF SOMEONE HAS AN AVERAGE PAYMENT AND WE WANT THEIR DEPOSIT TO COVER ONE MONTH. FOR HISTORY, WE COVER TWO MONTHS AND THAT'S JUST TO PROTECT US. IF YOU HAVE MADE ALL YOUR PAYMENTS ON TIME, THESE DEPOSITS ARE REFUNDED TO YOU.

THE NEXT ONE IS CONNECTION FEES. WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE THESE BECAUSE THE CURRENT FEES ARE NOT COVERING THE COST OF THE AVERAGE WATER METER. SO IT'S KIND OF THE IDEA OF DEVELOPMENT PAYING FOR DEVELOPMENT.

WE DON'T WANT TO SUBSIDIZE THE COST FOR A METER.

THESE ARE PASSED ON TO DEVELOPERS AND NEW HOME BUILDERS AND FINALLY, A FEW OTHER SERVICE CHARGES.

THESE ARE A FEW MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES.

WE PROPOSE TO INCREASE THE CHARGE FOR DISCONNECTION FROM 50 TO $75. THIS IS JUST TO ENCOURAGE YOU KNOW MAKING YOUR PAYMENTS TIMELY.

MORE ADEQUATELY COMPENSATING FOR STAFF TIME TO PERFORM CONNECTIONS AND RECONNECTIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE WORK WITH DOING THESE THINGS AND THEY WERE A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS SUCH AS TEMPORARY WATER METER INSTALLATION AND RELOCATION FEE.

THIS HAS BEEN CHARGED BUT WASN'T ON THE FEE SCHEDULE.

AND ANOTHER ONE IS THE COST OF A WATER METER TEST.

THAT WILL BE THE ACTUAL COST OF A TEST.

SO IF A WATER CUSTOMER IS LIKE HEY I DON'T THINK SOMETHING IS RIGHT WITH THE METER. WE WILL TEST IT FOR YOU.

IF NOTHING IS WRONG WITH YOUR METER, WE PASS TO COST ON TO YOU. BUT IF THERE WAS IN FACT SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR METER, WE WON'T CHARGE YOU FOR THAT.

THAT WILL BE THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

AND I THINK THAT COVERS ALL OF THEM.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDING FEES AND AMOUNTS OF DEPOSITS. AS A CITY WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE FOR PEOPLE FINANCIALLY UNABLE TO MAKE THE DEPOSITS?

>> OUR UTILITY TEAM WILL OFFER EXTENSION PLANS AND REACH OUT SEVERAL TIMES TO TRY AND MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THAT PRIOR TO

CUT OFF. >> IS THAT ALL THROUGH E-MAIL OR

PHONE CALL? >> I BELIEVE IT'S E-MAIL, PHONE

CALL AND MAIL. >> AND PAPER MAIL.

>> I'M JUST CONSIDERING PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO ACCESS E-MAIL OR DON'T HAVE A PHONE. I THINK OF A LARGE VARIETY OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE VERY LIKELY AFFECTED BY THE FEE SCHEDULE INCREASE AND COST AND WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT INCREASING, WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO COMMUNICATE AND FUND ALTERNATIVES FOR THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GO WITHOUT

A BASIC NECESSITY LIKE WATER. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> I DO. SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UTILITY AND FEES, WHEN I WAS OUT POLITICKING ONE DAY, I WAS

[01:40:02]

NOTICING HOW MANY PEOPLE DROP OFF CHECKS AND THEN COME IN WITH CASH. TO PAY UTILITY BILLS.

IS THAT STILL PRETTY SIGNIFICANT?

>> GOOD QUESTION. I'M NOT ON THE FRONT LINE OF THAT. I DO KNOW IT'S STILL A FACTOR AND ACTUALLY IT IS A FREE WAY TO PAY FOR YOUR BILL.

I KNOW PEOPLE ARE STILL DOING IT.

I JUST DON'T KNOW TO WHAT CAPACITY.

WE COULD FIND THAT DATA OUT FOR YOU.

>> FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT. WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, WE TALKED A YEAR AGO AND I DIDN'T GET IT IN LAST YEAR.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY. I FORGET THERE'S A FREE WAY TO PAY. BANK DRAFT.

CORRECT. >> WE'RE ONE OF THE ONLY UTILITY PROVIDERS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CAPABLE AND ELECTRIC AND EVERYBODY ELSE. THAT JUST DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU TO DO IT THAT WAY. YOU CAN'T PAY CASH AND CHECK ANYWHERE ELSE. I WILL LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS COSTING US. WHAT I HEARD FROM A TAXPAYER, IT'S SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO PAY SOMEONE.

THE AMOUNT OF TIME WE'RE TAKING. WE'RE IN THE SERVICE BUSINESS.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO MOVE IN WITH THE TIMES.

IF EVERYBODY ELSE IS ABLE TO PAY THEIR CELL PHONE BILL THROUGH ACH. WHY ARE WE ALLOWING CASH TO COME IN? WHAT I WAS LOOKING TO DO.

MAKE SURE WE HAVE ONE OR TWO FREE OPTIONS BUT IF WE'RE TAKING CASH IN AND WE HAVE TO PAY FOR DEPOSITORY SERVICE TO PICK UP THE CASH, I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY EXTRA TO HAVE CASH.

IF YOU'RE WANTING EMPLOYEES THAT MAKE WHATEVER THEY MAKE AN HOUR, $40 TO PROCESS CHECKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT ALMOST NEEDS TO COME TO THE POINT, YOU'RE GOING, YOU WITH PAY WITH A CHECK AND YOU HAVE TO PAY $2 A MONTH WITH A CHECK BECAUSE THAT'S THE ACTUAL COST. WE OFFER A FREE WAY AND WE HAVE ANOTHER WAY THAT ACTUALLY COSTS US MORE AND MORE MONEY EVERY YEAR AND AS WE GROW, IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO MAKE PEOPLE DO ACH.

I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WILL BALK AND YELL AT ME TOMORROW.

THEY PAY THEIR CELL PHONE BILL AND EVERY OTHER BILL IN LIFE OUTSIDE OF CASH BUT WE'RE ACCEPTING IT.

JUST SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. IT MAY NOT BE A BIG THING.

THE ONLY THING WITH UTILITIES IS THAT ALSO TOLD IF YOU SWITCH FROM ONE PERSON MOVES OUT AND ONE PERSON MOVES IN, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE APPROXIMATE TIME IT TAKES TO PROCESS THAT.

I'M TOLD IT'S SIGNIFICANT. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT, IF IT'S LONG AS I'M TOLD, ARE WE CHARGING RIGHT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SET UP ANOTHER COUNT? IS THERE A SOFTWARE FIX? SINCE WE'RE CHARGING PEOPLE WHAT IT COSTS TO DO THE SERVICE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE CASH PEOPLE ARE PAYING THEY'RE WAY THROUGH AND SETTING UP NEW ACCOUNTS. IN IT TAKES A HALF-HOUR AND I DON'T KNOW THE AVERAGE EMPLOYEE MAKES 85.5.

DIVIDED BY 42 HOURS AND 52 WEEKS AND BENEFITS.

WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

I THOUGHT I WOULD GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOU A HEADS UP.

>> TRYING TO MAKE THE BUDGET PROCESS EASY THIS YEAR.

>> UNDERSTOOD. ALL RIGHT.

AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU ARE.

I'M CHRISTINA BISHOP. ASSISTANT FINANCE DIRECTOR.

>> I WAS LIKE THANK YOU. >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, OUR UTILITY BILLS DO NOT MAKE $160,000 A YEAR.

>> YOU WERE SAYING $85 AN HOUR. >> 40 AN HOUR.

>> AVERAGE WAGE. >> IT'S ABOUT $92,000.

>> THE CITY MANAGER MAKES A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THIS.

I PULLED THE AVERAGE UP. $83,002,000.

-- $83,000. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS

ACTION? >> MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER KING. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> AYE. MORRIS.

>> AYE. COUNCILMEMBER

>> AYE. >> AYE.

THORNTON. >> AYE.

PORTERFIELD. >> AYE.

[ 8.6. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-151, authorizing the City Manager to execute the First Amendment to the Facilities Utilization Agreement between the City of Hutto and the Hutto Youth Baseball Softball Association (HYBSA). (Jeff White)]

MOTION PASSES 7-0. THANKS.

NEXT 8.6. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION H-2026-151. AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE FACILITIES UTILIZATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND YOUTH BASEBALL

[01:45:04]

ASSOCIATION, HYBS A. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC.

>> DID WE GET THE WATER HEATER FIXED

>> YES. MY ONLY OTHER ISSUE.

THAT WAS MY CHECK. WE HAD A MOTION MADE AND I'M GOING TO PICKUP YOU WILL THE MOTION.

I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WE ADDRESSED IN THE AGREEMENT.

MOTION MY MAYOR SNYDER TO ADD AS PRESENTED AND ADDITIONALLY, HYBS A IS RESPONSIBLE IF RAKING, CHALKING NOT IN THERE.

HOT WATER HEAT, ADDED BEFORE THE NEXT GAME.

ADDING CHANGING TABLES TO THE MEN'S AND WOMEN'S RESTROOMS. KIND OF IN THERE. AND ADDITION OF STORAGE SHED AND COORDINATION WITH PARK STAFF. WHY DIDN'T WE PUT THE PORTO SERVICE. RAKING AND DRAGGING AND CHALKING. WHY DIDN'T THAT GO IN THE

AMENDMENT? >> WE COULD ADD THAT INTO THERE.

IT'S NOT A BIG ISSUE. IT'S A MOTION MADE BY CITY COUNCIL. WE'RE SAYING MANAGER, GO DO X.

I KNOW IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL BECAUSE WE MADE THE MOTION.

I WANT TO GET TO THE POINT I DON'T HAVE TO READ EVERY SINGLE THING WE'RE GOING THROUGH. I TRUST.

I'M STUPID I'M GETTING MAD ABOUT PORTER SERVICE.

I'M LIKE MAN, HERE'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE WE GOT IN HERE.

THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT ITEMS. WE'RE GOING TO LET THEM HELP YOU PAINT THE BATHROOM WALLS AND LET THEM HELP YOU DIG DITCHES.

AND THEN THE THINGS THAT THEY REALLY CARED ABOUT WAS, THE RAKING DRAGGING AND CHALKING. WE DIDN'T PUT IN THERE.

I GUESS I WANT TO GET TO A POINT WE MAKE A MOTION I DON'T HAVE TO SPEND TIME READING EVERY SENTENCE.

IT'S MORE OF JUST LIKE AND THEN WITH THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHY -- SO WHY ARE WE WAITING TO THE END OF THE YEAR TO DO THE CHANGING

TABLES? >> WE'RE NOT.

WE BUILT IN A BUFFER IN CASE THERE'S ADDITIONAL WORK WE NEED TO COME BACK AND DO. WE HAVE A WORKDAY SCHEDULED ON JULY 25TH. PENDING THIS APPROVAL OF THIS

AGREEMENT. >> WHY DON'T GO AHEAD AND HAVE

THEM PUT IN? >> PUT IN THE CHANGING TABLES.

>> WE HAVE THEM IN STOCK. WE WERE GOING TO DO A WORKDAY ON

JULY 25TH. >> THEN THE DATE SHOULD BE

JULY 31ST. >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HOLDUP IS. EVERY TIME WE GIVE A DEADLINE, AS A CITY, WE DON'T HIT DEADLINES VERY WELL.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE A VERY GOOD TRACK RECORD.

I'M LOOKING GOING IN JUNE, WE SAID DO THE WATER HEATER.

PUT BABY CHANGING TABLES IN AND MADE AN AGREEMENT TO GET THEM IN. I'M LIKE YEAH, PEOPLE ARE USING THE PARKS NOW. I DON'T HAVE A BABY SO I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. I'M LIKE IF YOU ALREADY HAVE THEM. WHAT DOES IT TAKE, 15, 20

MINUTES TO INSTALL ONE? >> IT VARIES, YEAH.

20 MINUTES OR SO. >> AND HOW MANY BATHROOMS.

>> FOUR TOTAL. >> FOUR TOTAL.

SO ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF. WHEN I PLAY KICK BALL, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE MY KID SAYS ARE IN THEIR 20S.

IT WOULD MAKE ME MAD IF KID NEEDED A DIAPER CHANGE AND I GOT TO LAY THEM ON THE CONCRETE FLOOR.

IT ALREADY LOOKS LIKE A PRISON BATHROOM.

BUT YOUR BABY DOWN ON A CHANGING TABLE.

THERES NO PRIORITY TO GET IT DONE.

>> ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED THEM TO ASSIST WITH DOING THAT IS PARTIALLY TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEM.

WE HAD THEM IN THERE BEFORE AND THEY GOT TORN UP AND DAMAGED AND WE REPLACED THEM. PART OF ME WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO INSTALL IT AND HAVE OWNERSHIP IN THAT HEY WE INSTALLED IT. IT'S PART OF YOUR PAYING TAX SAYS TO RECOVER THESE THINGS. SO IT'S KIND OF THAT OWNERSHIP

PART OF IT AS WELL. >> SO HOW DOES, SO THE PRESIDENT ASSOCIATION INSTALLS IT. HOW DOES THAT HELP THE EIGHT-YEAR OLD BASEBALL KID THAT'S HANGING UP AND DOWN ON

IT? >> WELL THEY COULD REITERATE TO THEIR PARENTS AND PLAYERS AND HEY, THESE ARE SOMETHING WE PUT

[01:50:02]

IN. WE HELPED INSTALL TO MAKE SURE

THEY TAKE BETTER CARE OF IT. >> HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

LET'S INSTALL THEM. IF THE GAMES ARE DONE AND YOU INSPECT AND THEY ARE TORN OFF. YOU MAKE THEM PAY TO REPLACE EVERYTHING AND THAT'S OWNERSHIP BECAUSE WAITING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAVING THEM HANG THEM UP. IT SEEMS I DON'T KNOW.

SOME OF THE STUFF SEEMS LIKE I ALREADY TOLD THE CITY MANAGER LADY. IT DRAGS ON, IF WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION, IT'S A YEAR. THEY'RE NOT PUT UP.

THAT DAY IT GOT RAINED UP. LET'S JUST GET SOMETHING DONE AROUND HERE. THAT'S JUST MY THING.

I WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO GET SOMEBODY DONE IN THE CITY SO WE CAN TELL PEOPLE WE DID SOMETHING.

ANYWAY. THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I GUESS EVENTUALLY TO WHERE WE MAKE A MOTION THE CITY MANAGER'S PEOPLE THAT WE ASKED TO DO. OTHERWISE, JUST MAKES ME WANT TO BEAT UP ON HIM AND HE PROBABLY GETS TIRED OF MY ONE-ON-ONES.

>> YEAH, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I AM, IT'S A NAY VOTE FOR EXACTLY WHAT THE MAYOR DESCRIBED. WE WERE EXPECTING CERTAIN LANGUAGE TO BE IN THIS. IT'S NOT IN THERE.

I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT WHETHER THE

LANGUAGE ISN'T CLEAR. >> INSTEAD OF VOTING NO, WOULD YOU BE OKAY TO POSTPONE SO THEY CAN GET IT RE-EXECUTED?

>> I WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT. >> THAT'S FAIR.

>> DOES THAT HAVE TO BE A MOTION?

>> I THINK IT DOES. >> TO RESCHEDULE.

>> SO MOVED. MOTION TO POSTPONE THIS TO

AUGUST 6TH. >> YEAH.

CORRECT. >> SECOND THAT.

SECOND. I'M GOING TO SECOND ANYWAY.

PORTERFIELD AND KING. THERE YOU GO.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STOPPING THEM FROM OPERATING NOW.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S JUST AN AMENDMENT.

TO THE EXISTING. >> YEAH.

THEY WON'T START LEAGUE PLAY UNTIL SEPTEMBER ANYWAY.

>> YEAH, I DID TALK TO THE PRESIDENT TODAY AND I JUST SAID HEY, HE KIND OF SAID, I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

THIS KIND OF WORKS FOR US. I'M LIKE WELL, YOU CAN ASK YOUR WIFE, BUT I'M, I DON'T LIKE MAKING MOTIONS AND THEM NOT

COMING THROUGH. >> THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.

WE WILL GET IT TAKEN CARE OF. >> ALL RIGHT.

CALL THE VOTE. ZEPEDA.

AYE. >> AYE.

KING. AYE.

[ 8.7. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-152 amending the City Council Protocols regarding the appointments to Boards and Commissions by City Council Place designation. (City Council)]

>> >> SNYDER.

>> AYE. MOTION MASS SAYS PASS -- PASSES 7-0. NEXT.

8.7. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-152.

AMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOLS REGARDING

APPOINTMENTS. >> I PULLED THIS BECAUSE I KNOW GOING FORWARD. WE HAD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AT THE LAST MEETING. I WANTED TO REVIEW WHAT THE NEW CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOLS REGARDING APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

>> I SHOWED THE RED LINE AND DIDN'T HAVE QUESTIONS.

>> I WAS TALKING TO COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS -- IS IT

APPROPRIATE TO MENTION -- >> THE RATIO.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU TO SPEAK ON IT.

>> I GUESS IT'S AN F 2. WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THESE COUNCILMEMBER ONE WOULD DO, I MEAN COUNCILMEMBER PLACE ONE WOULD DO SEAT ONE OF THING. I DON'T THINK THAT'S RANDOM ENOUGH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SENT OUT. I THINK THIS IS AMANDA'S E-MAIL.

>> MAYOR, DO WE NEED A MOTION? WE'RE NOT ASKING QUESTIONS.

>> OKAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE

AS AMENDED. >> SECOND.

>> GO AHEAD, SIR. >> WE NEED TO FIX THAT ONE.

I HATE TO MAKE A MOTION. YEAH.

BUT ANYWAY. IT'S A LITTLE LOPSIDED.

BASICALLY TWO POSITIONS DECIDE OVER TWO-THIRDS OF THE

POSITIONS. >> LIKE THE REAPPOINTMENTS AND EVERYTHING. I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE RANDOMNESS IN THIS. IF YOU HAVE SEAT ONE IN PLACE ONE. YOU GET A WAVE.

[01:55:02]

SO FOR LIKE IN THIS CASE, 12 POSITIONS WENT TO ONE SEAT.

AND THEN ANOTHER 8 WENT TO ANOTHER SEAT.

SO THERE'S 20-31. ALMOST TWO-THIRDS.

BUT I THINK WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, IN THE NEXT YEAR, THERE WILL BE A MAJORITY OR, TWO OF THE SEATS DIDN'T EVEN HAVE ANY

IN THIS ELECTION CYCLE. >> THE ISSUE IS NOT WITH THE

WORDING -- >> NO.

>> WITH THE PROTOCOL. THE ISSUE IS HOW THE PLACES WERE

DIVVIED UP. >> YES.

HOW THE SEATS WERE DIVVIED UP. I SAY WE APPROVE THIS AND AND

FOR MORE RANDOMNESS. >> REASSIGN THE PLACES TO THE

PEOPLE RANDOMLY. >> WE DID IT, LIKE SAY HALF THE PEOPLE JUST WENT TO PLACE ONE AND TWO.

A BUNCH OF PEOPLE DIDN'T GET ANYBODY.

WE WANT IT RANDOMLY TO WHERE -- >> THAT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGING THEIR TERMS. AND THE TERMS ARE ALREADY

STAGGERED. >> I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO IS IT WON'T CHANGE THE TERM, HE MAY HAVE --

>> RANDOMLY CHANGES THEIR PLACE. >> INSTEAD OF SAYING ONE THROUGH SEVEN IN EVERY BOARDING COMMISSION THAT SEQUENCE IS DIFFERENT ONE THROUGH SEVEN. IF EVERY BOARDING --

>> THIS WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM --

>> THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTOOD IT, EVAN PLACED ONE AND TWO AND IF WE RANDOMLY CHANGE, THE TERM DOESN'T CHANGE BUT NOW INSTEAD OF ONE IT'S FOUR AND IT RANDOMLY MOVES PEOPLE'S PLACE NUMBERS

AROUND IN THE BOARD. >> A SIMPLER WAY TO LOOK AT THI-

LET ME FINISH, PLEASE. >> I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

>> RIGHT NOW WE HAVE SEVEN POSITIONS AND SEVEN SEATS IN EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION. WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND EVERYONE HAS DONE THE FIRST PERSON IS SEAT ONE, SEAT TWO, SEAT THREE, SEAT FOUR, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE RANDOM AS I IZED.

NOT ONE THROUGH SEVEN BUT THEY RANDOMLY GET PICKED, DIFFERENT

NUMBERS. >> BUT ACCORDING TO THIS NEW PROTOCOL IT WOULD STILL BE-- SEAT ONE WOULD BE BY PLACE ONE, NO MATTER THE ORDER AND HOW IT'S LISTED ON THE SHEET.

>> NO. >> RIGHT.

YOU'RE RIGHT. THIS WORDING WOULD NOT CHANGE BUT HOW YOU ASSIGN SEAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE, CORRECT.

>> ON THE BOARD OR COMMISSION. >> I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS WE BASE THE SEAT LEFT ON THE TIME LEFT ON THE SEAT.

>> THE SEATS ARE CONSTANT. >> ONE THROUGH SEVEN.

>> BECAUSE ON HIS THING THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE WHO GOT

PUT IN -- >> THE PLATESMENT OF THE

FREQUENCIES. >> EIGHT WENT TO PLACE ONE, SIX TO TWO, SIX WENT TO PLACE 14 AND FIVE WENT TO SIX AND NONE OF

THEM TO PLACE THREE AND FIVE. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE PATTERN EVERY YEAR. SO TWO OF THEM ARE GONNA GET THE MAJORITY OF THE NOMINATIONS. TWO OF THEM WILL GET NONE.

THEN THERE WILL BE A BALANCE OF THE REMAINING THREE.

>> WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS WHAT WE PASS THIS SEWAGE-- ASSUMINGLY, GO BACK AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THEIR TIME LEFT AND THEIR

POSITION BUT RANDOMLY -- >> WHEN YOU GET SEVEN NAMES --

>> WENT GOES TO TWO, ONE GOES TO THREE, ONE GOES TO FOUR AND AS THEY COME UP WE'LL RENEW THEM THROUGHOUT OUR TIME ON THE COUNCIL. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

>> NOT AT ALL. [LAUGHTER]

>> I WILL SHARE WITH YOU BECAUSE THE APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE

ACCORDING TO THE TERMS. >> RIGHT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE IN DOING THAT IT'S MADE TWO POSITIONS UP HERE NOT HAVE ANY BOARD MEMBERS.

WE'RE SAYING DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE TERM LEFT ON THE POSITION --

>> JUST RANDOMIZE IT. >> PUT THEM IN RANDOMLY PLACE

ONE THROUGH SEVEN -- >> SEAT ONE THROUGH SEVEN.

>> -- I MAY HAVE TWO YEARS LEFT IN MY TERM BUT THE PERSON IN MY SEAT MAY ONLY HAVE A YEAR LEFT AND THEN IN A YEAR I'LL APPOINT SOMEBODY NEW. I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY BETTER THAT WAY IN A WAY. THAT WAY IT STOPS SOMEONE FROM JUST COMING IN AND GETTING ELECTED AND REPLACING ALL OF THEIR PEOPLE BUT I THINK YOU GUYS CAN TALK OFFLINE --

>> I JUST WANT TO BRING UP THE ORIGINAL REASON THAT I SUGGESTED A CHANGE IS I WANTED TO HAVE MORE ENGAGEMENT AND INVOLVEMENT BY EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT WAS THE GOAL.

YOU KNOW, HOW THAT GETS IMPLEMENTED, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE. BUT MY INTENTION AND MY GOAL IS TO HAVE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER BE A PARTY OF AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T, SOME WEEKS ARE DIFFERENT BUT THAT WAY WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THESE NOMINATIONS AND THESE QUESTIONNAIRES AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR ANY LINKEDIN OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO BUT THE WAY IT IS NOW IS THAT TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS-- TWO COUNCIL PLACES OVER TWO-THIRDS OF THE NOMINATIONS ON A YEARLY BASIS.

TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE NO SAY IN THE NOMINATION.

[02:00:08]

>> THAT'S THIS YEAR AND EVERY YEAR WILL BE THAT WAY-- LET ME FINISH, SO ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IS WHEN WE HAVE THE BOARD AND COMMISSION AND YOU SAID THE FIRST NAME IS SEAT ONE.

THE SECOND NAME IS SEAT TWO. I ASSUME THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE.

IS THAT CORRECT? >> NO, THERE ARE PLACES AND WHEN THERE ARE VACANCIES, SEAT THREE --

>> AND IT ALREADY EXISTED. >> YES.

>> THAT'S MY MISTAKE. >> THEY CORRESPOND TO THE TERMS.

>> I KNOW BUT I GO LOOK AT A BOARD OF COMMISSION AND THEY DON'T SAY SEAT ONE, TWO, THREE. JUST THE NAME --

>> NO, THEY HAVE PLACES. >> THERE'S SEATS IN THE VERY FIRST COLUMN. ON THE APPOINTMENTS SHEET.

>> ON THE TERMS IT'S NOT THAT WAY.

I'M LOOKING AT ONE RIGHT NOW. >> THERE ARE SEVEN NAMES AND

THIRD PLACE, SEAT THREE. >> MY MISTAKE, THEN, I

APOLOGIZE. >> COUNCILOR REYNOLDS SAID WHATEVER ORDER THAT'S THE SEE THEY'RE ASSIGNED --

>> WHEN THE TERMS WERE APPOINTED THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO A PARTICULAR SEAT AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

>> THE MAJORITY OF THEM DO HAVE SEATS.

>> OKAY. >> I'M LOOKING AT PLANNING AND ZONING, THEY'RE NOT SEATS ASSIGNED.

HAZEL -- JUST THE NAMES.

>> THERE THEY'RE NOT -- >> THIS IS THE ONLY INFORMATION

THAT I HAVE. >> ON THE EXCEL SPREADSHEET?

>> OH, ON THAT. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT.

BUT ON THE OTHER SEATS. >> I WAS SAYING DON'T CHANGE THE NAME ON THE TERRITORIAL BUT CHANGE THEIR-- TERM BUT CHANGE THEIR PLACE NUMBER AND THAT NEW NAME BECOMES THE NAME AND THE TERM. THAT WAY LIKE AS I SAID IF YOU'RE PLACE ONE AND YOU'VE GOT THREE YEARS LEFT, JERREL, NOW YOU'RE RANDOMLY PLACE FOUR AND YOU HAVE THREE YEARS LEFT AND YOUR NAME IS STILL JERREL BUT YOU'RE PLACE FOUR NOW RANDOMLY PICKED. THAT'S YOUR NEW PLACE BUT WE'RE RANDOMLY PICKING AWE THE PLACE NUMBERS-- ALL THE PLACE NUMBERS.

>> DON'T MOVE THE NAMES BUT THE SEAT NUMBERS --

>> I WOULD SAY MOVE -- >> NO, JUST MOVE THE PLACE

NUMBERS AROUND. >> TO THE NAME TO ACCURATELY

REFLECT THE TIME ON THE TERM -- >> DON'T CHANGE THE TERM OR THE

NAME OR THE PLACE NUMBER. >> HOW ABOUT THIS, I'M COMPLETELY OKAY WITH YOU TWO FIGURING IT OUT.

>> TOGETHER: [LAUGHTER] >> WE ADD IN THAT YOU TWO WILL

WORK WITH THE CITY SECRETARY. >> AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO THE INTENTION. THE INTENTION WAS TO GET MORE INVOLVEMENT FROM CITY COUNCIL. I THINK THIS ACTUALLY GOES THE OPPOSITE WAY. IT MAKES LESS INVOLVEMENT.

>> RIGHT. >> IT CUTS OUT TWO PEOPLE COMPLETELY AND PUTS TO PEOPLE IN CONTROL OF THE MAJORITY OF SEATS. TWO-THIRDS OF THE SEATS.

>> THEN MY MOTION THAT HAD YOU SECONDED TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED BY HAVE YOU AND THE MAYOR AND PRO-TEM TO RANDOMIZE IT.

YOU AGREE WITH THAT? >> THAT'S FINE.

>> [LAUGHTER] >> ALL RIGHT.

>> THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH ME.

>> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I'M COMFORTABLE. THE VOTE.

>> COUNCILOR THORNTON. >> COUNCILOR REYNOLDS.

COUNCILOR ZEPEDA, PRO TEM PORTERFIELD.

COUNCILOR KING. >> AYE.

[9.1. Discussion and possible action setting the City Council meeting dates for 2027. (Laura Hallmark)]

>> AYE. >> AYE.

>> AND BRINGS US TO 9.1, SETTING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING DATES

FOR 2027. >> GET CLOSER TO THE MIC.

>> WE DON'T HAVE RAN ON COUNCIL AND HE WOULD TELL US EVERY TIME WE HIT A SPRING BREAK OR A HOLIDAY.

>> IF YOU'RE RECALL-- SORRY, LAURA HALLMARK, CITY SECRETARY FOR THE RECORD. YOU'LL RECALL WE DID THIS LAST YEAR AND WE IMPLEMENTED AGENDA PUBLICATION PROCESS AND DEADLINES AND HAVING THE DATES ALREADY SET WORKED VERY WELL FOR STAFF AND THEY WERE ABLE TO PASS THAT ALONG TO DEVELOPERS AND VENDORS TO-- WHO WERE COMING BEFORE COUNCIL FOR THEIR ITEMS TO LET THEM KNOW THIS WAS A SLATE OF MEETINGS AVAILABLE AND THE TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH EACH EACH OTHER ONE. SO FOR THIS YEAR'S SLATE OF MEETINGS WE WERE VERY LUCKY IN THAT THEY ALL FELL IN LINE WITHOUT ANY CHANGES, THE ONLY RECOMMENDED CHANGE WAS FOR MARCH FOR SPRING BREAK FROM MARCH 18TH TO MARCH 11TH WHICH WORKED OUT WELL FOR US THIS YEAR AS WELL TO HAVE IT THE WEEK BEFORE. SO THAT WAY ANY STAFF OR COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAD CHILDREN IN SCHOOL THEY WERE ABLE TO BE OFF

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THAT WEEK OF SPRING BREAK AND NOT WORK ON THE UPCOMING AGENDA PACKET. SO ANY OF THE HOLIDAYS OR SPECIAL DATES THAT WE NEEDED TO BEAR IN MIND ONLY AFFECT OUR BACK OF HOUSE PROCESS SO THE SLATE IS FIRST AND THIRD

THURSDAYS ALL THE WAY THROUGH. >> QUESTION, ON THE LEFT COLUMN

YOU HAVE A BIG DOT -- >> ASTERISK.

>> ASTERISK. >> THAT WAS LEFT IN THERE

INADVERTENTLY. >> NEVER MIND.

NEVER MIND. >> ALL RIGHT MOTION TO APPROVE

AS PRESENTED. >> SECONDED.

>> WHO SAID SECOND FIRST? >> REPORTER: SECOND.

>> KING. THERE YOU GO.

ALL RIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T GET THE SECOND.

>> KING. >> THANK YOU.

>> COUNCILOR MORRIS. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILOR ZEPEDA. >> AY WHY.

>> REG. >> AYE.

>> KING. >> AYE.

>> PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. >> AYE.

[9.2. Discussion and possible action regarding FY 2026-2027 (Year 1) and FY 2029-2030 (Year 4) and FY 2030-2031 (Year 5) of the City's Five-Year Capital Improvement Plan (CIP). (Alberta Barrett)]

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> 9.2, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING FISCAL YEAR 2026-27 YEAR ONE AND FISCAL YEAR 2029-30, YEAR FOUR.

AND FISCAL YEAR 2030-31 YEAR FIVE OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT

PLANNING CIP. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

ALBERTA BARRETT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE RECORD.

>> WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT YEAR ONE, YEAR FOUR AND FIVE.

>> THEY HAVE THE PRINTOUT. >> I SAW IT UP THERE AND THOUGHT IT WAS THERE. THAT'S FINE.

>> YOU HAVE US PRONOUNCED IN. MAINLY YES, WHAT OUR FOCUS THIS EVENING IS -- IS TO DISCUSS YEAR ONE.

SO THE FIRST IF WE COULD TURN T. SO IN THE PARK PROJECTS FOR YEAR ONE WHICH IS '26-'27, THERE ARE THREE PROJECTS THAT WE HAD SLATED TO START NEXT YEAR WHICH DO NOT HAVE FUNDING.

P17, WHICH IS THE ORGAIN PARK WHY IMPROVEMENTS FOR 7,000 AND P2-- P24 YES. P28 FOR CREEKSIDE PARK IMPROVEMENTS. WE HAVE IT HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE HAVE FUNDING AND THE ONLY REASON THAT I DID THAT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE $1.6 MILLION LEFT OVER FROM THE AGO, GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR PARK PROJECTS BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY I JUST DID THAT TO REFERENCE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO BORROW FOR THAT. SO MY QUESTION IS IF YOU WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, IF SO, IF YOU KEEP ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS IN '27 WE WOULD NEED TO BORROW THE $3.4 MILLION.

>> AND THE CREEKSIDE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S MONEY WE BORROWED IN AN ACCOUNT OR BONDING CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE?

>> IT'S MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALREADY ON HAND.

SO IT'S FUNDS REMAINING FROM CURRENT PROJECTS.

>> PERSONALLY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE DURANGO PARK BECAUSE BEFORE WE BUILD MORE PARKS WE HAVE TO GET THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE BUILT AND WE STILL HAVE A $10 MILLION PARK THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF IN CONSTRUCTION.

SO I'D LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST ONE DONE BEFORE WE START ANOTHER ONE. LIKE I DON'T-- WE CAN'T TALK-- WE CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT NEXT YEAR BUT I DON'T SEE $30 MILLION GETTING SPENT. I SEE ATHLETIC FIELDS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO ATHLETIC FIELDS AND ADAM ORGAIN AND HUDDLE LAKE BUT MOVE DURANGO TO YEAR FOUR BECAUSE WE CAN WHO HAVE IT TO TWO OR THREE BUT CAN'T MOVE THEM OUT.

>> WHAT DID YOU SAY WAS THE YEA- >> CAN'T TALK ABOUT YEAR TWO OR

THREE. >> NEVER MIND.

>> ONLY ONE -- >> I PUT TOO MANY LIMITS ON Y'ALL. SORRY.

>> THAT'S GOOD. IT'S A WAY TO KEEP US FOCUSSED.

>> WERE YOU SUGGESTING TO MOVE P24 OUT TO YEAR FOUR?

>> YES, AND MOVE 317 3-- P17 R TWO.

>> OKAY. >> BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD BUILD MORE PARKS --

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>> CAN'T GET THE ONES THAT WE HAVE GOING.

>> -- CAN'T GET THE ONES THAT WE HAVE UP.

YOU LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY SURVEYS, QUALITY OF PARKS IS NOTHING THAT I'VE EVER SEEN COME UP BUT WHAT IT COMES UP FROM PARKS THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY ADDRESSING IS ATHLETIC FIELDS, AQUATIC CENTER AND A REC CENTER. I'M EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED THAT WE DID A $10 MILLION PARK AND IT'S DONE BUT THAT WOULD HAVE KNOCKED OUT HALF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

>> WE HAVE TO HAVE A MOTION ON THAT.

TO MOVE THEM? >> UNLESS YOU GUYS HAVE OTHER

IDEAS. >> IF WE COULD DO THEM LIKE WE DID THE OTHER DAY. THERE WON'T BE AS MANY SO WE

COULD DO ALL PARK. >> IF COUNCIL SO DESIRED THE ATHLETIC FIELDS FEASIBILITY, RIGHT, THAT'S MORE OF A STUDY.

>> THIS IS A LAND -- I'M SORRY.

>> I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD. >> NO, I'M SORRY.

THE 23.5 OUT THERE FOR YEAR TWO IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S

FOR THE LAND PURCHASE. >> I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT.

>> I'M SORRY. >> THAT'S YEAR TWO AND NOT

AVAILABLE. >> YES.

>> YOU COULD PUT MONEY IN YEAR ONE FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS FEASIBILITY AND LAND PURCHASE AND START THE PROCESS OF DOING THE PLAN FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELDS.

>> ER SO. >> THIS YEAR-- SORRY.

>> THIS YEAR BUT YOU'D HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND IT.

>> THAT'S AN EDC ITEM. THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT UP TO EDC THAT I THINK IT'S CRAZY THAT WE HAVE 240 ACRES WE PURCHASED FOR 23.5 AND IF WE BUILD APARTMENTS ON IT AND SELL IT FOR SOMETHING THAT'S CLOSE TO WHAT WE HAVE TO GO AND BUY ADDITIONAL LAND FOR, I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT A BIG BULK OF THE BALANCE OF THE COTTONWOOD LAND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE FIELDS THERE. TO ME WE JUST ASKED EDC TO FUND THE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR PARKS AND WE JUST MAKE THAT AS A RESOLUTION AND KIND OF FORCE THEM TO LOOK AT THAT, OTHERWISE APARTMENT PEOPLE WANT TO PUT APARTMENTS THERE AND NOBODY IS

OUT THERE -- >> ON THE WEST SIDE CLOSEST TO

THE CREEK. >> EVEN TO THE NORTH BEHIND THAT SHOPPING THERE'S SOCCER FIELD PLACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT IT SEEMS CRAZY THAT WE WOULD GO-- ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S NEXT TO NOT ADAM ORGAIN BUT FRITZ. ANY OTHER IDEAS FOR THE PARKS

ONE? >> I LIKE THAT IDEA I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE DURANGO PARK TO YEAR FOUR AND MOVE P24 TO YEAR

FOUR AND P17 MOVED TO YEAR TWO. >> THEN YOU'RE GONNA ADD ITEMS FOR-- YOU'RE GONNA ADD DOLLARS FOR P15 AND HAVE THAT FUNDED BY

OTHERS? >> YES.

YES, I GUESS THAT WOULD GO BLUE, RIGHT?

>> IT WOULD GO BLUE, CORRECT. >> SECOND.

>> CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? >> P24 TO YEAR FOUR, P17 TO YEAR

TWO. >> WE CAN'T DO THAT.

>> WE CAN. >> WE CAN MOVE IT TO YEAR TWO

BUT CAN'T MOVE OUT OF YEAR TWO. >> CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE ITEMS IN

YEAR TWO. >> WE CAN DO LIKE-- I DON'T KNOW. WHAT'S THE STUDY COST?

>> I'M AFRAID TO PUT THE NUMBER. >> THE STUDY IS PROBABLY MORE STRAIGHT-UP DESIGN AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? SO YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING, YOU KNOW, 400 GRAND TO START FOR THE

DESIGN. >> I WAS WANTING 150.

>> 250. >> WE'LL COME IN UNDER BUDGET ON

THAT SIDE. >> IF YOU ARE PLANNING IT SHOULD BE MUCH LOWER BUT IF YOU'RE DESIGNING YOU'LL BE HIGHER.

>> 400 IS GOOD. >> FINE.

>> JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND AND GET THIS RIGHT.

WE'RE PUTTING IN YEAR ONE, 27, 400,000 FOR DESIGN AND IT'S GONNA BE BLUE BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE PAID THROUGH EDC OR SOME

OTHER SOURCE. >> MM'HMM.

>> OKAY. >> IS THERE A PROJECT NUMBER FOR

THAT? >> P15.

>> THANK YOU. >> P17 YEAR TWO.

P24 TO YEAR FOUR. >> YOU WANT TO DO P28 AS IT'S ON THERE. AND THE REST OF THEM ARE BLUE AND THEY'LL HAVE TO HAVE FUNDING FROM ANOTHER SOURCE BEFORE THEY

BEGIN. >> CORRECT.

>> THOSE ARE ALL TRAIL RELATED IT LOOKS LIKE.

>> THEY SHOULD BE ALL TRAIL. >> JUST GOTTA START MEETING WITH SOME RUNNING CLUBS AND GET SOME SPONSORSHIP MONEY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE.

>> PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. COUNCILOR REYNOLDS.

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>> AYE. >> COUNCILOR MORRIS.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILOR KING.

>> AYE. >> MAYOR SNYDER.

>> AYE. >> PASSES 6-7.

>> ON PARKS I WANT TO COVER YEAR FOUR AND FIVE WHERE WE MOVED OUT FROM THE LAST MEETING P28, P29 AND P33 OUT TO BY ONE YEAR OUT TO YEAR 30. YEAR FOUR I SHOULD SAY.

MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT MOTION FROM LAST TIME.

>> SHOULD BE GOOD. >> SO THE NEXT ONE IS STREET PROJECTS AND THE THREE THAT ARE IN QUESTION.

IS T47 FOR 6,089,782. T48, LIMBER TO EDGEPUT AT 7,264,120. T73 WHICH IS CARLSTERN AND 685 FOR 2 MILLION. SO ALL THREE OF THOSE PROJECTS TOTAL A LITTLE OVER 15 MILLION. AND THEN LOOKING AT FUNDS THAT WE HAVE REMAINING FROM PRIOR DEBT ISSUANCES, 12, THE SERIES 22 GENERAL OBLIGATION ABOUT 1.8 MILLION.

FROM THE 24 GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT, 132, WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 3.1. THOSE TWO TOTAL 4,961,508.

AGAIN, SAYING IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO PUSH OUT OR LEAVE ALL THREE OF THESE AND BORROW THE 15 LESS ROUGHLY THE 5? OR WHAT SCENARIO WOULD YOU LIKE

TO SEE THERE NEXT YEAR? >> DO YOU WANT AN HONEST

OPINION? >> PLEASE, SIR.

>> WE BUDGET WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET DONE AND STARTED SO ONE THING THAT'S DRIVING ME UP THE WALL IS HOW MANY PROJECTS WE BUDGET AND DON'T GET DONE. SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ADD.

TO ME WE'VE GOT TO PUSH THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET THE PROJECTS THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO GET THIS YEAR DONE AND START AND THEY'RE NOT ON HERE.

BECAUSE WE HAVE PROJECTS UNDERWAY REQUIRED BUT WE HAVE PROJECTS FUNDED THAT AREN'T ON HERE.

>> BECAUSE THIS ONE IS JUST LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, THE MULTIYEAR FOR THE OUT YEARS. IF WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THEM THEY'RE UNDER PROJECTS UNDERWAY AND THEY SHOULD BE-- BUT IF YOU SEE ONE THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT LET ME KNOW AND

I'LL CHECK. >> 16, 60 AND 79.

16, 60 SOUTH WHERE IS THAT? >> T4, I HAVE THE MONEY AND

WORKING ON THAT. >> THERE'S THAT ONE.

137 AND 1660. >> MM'HMM.

>> WE'VE GOT-- I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE ONES.

WHERE IS 16 163 AT? >> T18.

IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE REFERRING TO?

>> YUP. WE PUSHED THAT ONE OUT LIKE WE

SAID. >> MM'HMM.

>> INNOVATION EXPANSION, I BELIEVE THAT WAS A DESIGN.

>> YES, SO WE HAVE THE DESIGN IN YEAR ONE.

AND THEN WE PUSHED OUT TO YEAR THREE THE CONSTRUCTION.

>> I WOULD SAY LIMBER LOOP AND I MEAN WE NEED TO KNOW, BUT, JAMES, LET'S SAY WE WE WANTEDO SAY 47, 48 NEXT YEAR WILL THEY BE DESIGNED AND READY TO GO IN THAT TIME FRAME?

OR ARE WE STILL DOING STUDIES? >> CERTAINLY THE STUDY IS UNDERWAY. KATE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT BOTH OF THE LIMBER LOOP PROJECTS ARE PASSED, FOR SURE PASSED THE 60% DESIGN MARK AND I DO BELIEVE ARE APPROACHING THE 90% MILESTONE. THE I.C.E. ANALYSIS I COULD LOOK AT THE SCHEDULES REALLY QUICK BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING DON'T RECALL THEM TAKING MORE THAN TWO MONTHS, SO, YES, THEY WOULD BE READY BY THE TIME-- BEFORE THE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR ROLLS

AROUND. >> THEN ALBERTA, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, LAST YEAR, WE'RE ASKING THE VOTERS FOR 42 MILLION.

>> MM'HMM. >> HOW DO I SAY THIS? WE HAVE BINDING CAPACITY. WE CAN SELL DEBT AND NOT RAISE TAXES BUT I THINK LAST YEAR WAS LIKE 28,000-- OR 28 MILLION OR

SOMETHING. >> RIGHT.

>> THERE IS STILL A NUMBER, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS TO ME THE POLICE STATION BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A ROAD THING, IT'S LIKE IF YOU GUYS WANT THAT, THAT WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES $165 WHICH ALLOWS US TO HAVE MONEY TO BORROW FOR ROADS NEXT YEAR WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.

[02:20:03]

>> NOT WITH THE CURRENT PROPOSED BUDGET BECAUSE IF WE ARE AT-- IF WE'RE AT REVENUE THEN WE HAVE TO CALCULATE DEBT SERVICE GOING UP

AND THEREFORE REDUCE MNO. >> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR. MNO HAS GONE UP DRAMATICALLY IN

THE BUDGET. >> NOT DRAMATICALLY BUT, YES, IT

IS. >> WE HAD 28 MILLION IN BORROWING CAPACITY LAST YEAR THAT WENT AWAY AND THE RATE IS COMPRESSED AND THE MNO IS GOING UP.

>> MNO IS GOING UP. INTEREST IN SINKING IS EFFECTIVELY STAYING THE SAME SO THE ADDITIONAL GROWTH DOLLARS IS THAT 1.5 MILLION? 1.7? THOSE NEW DOLLARS GOT PROGRAMMED, NOT FOR DEBT SERVICE. IF WE BREAK OFF OF NO NEW REVENUE THEN-- THEN WE CAN DO THAT BUT --

>> WE CAN STILL DO THAT -- >> -- BUT TAXES WILL GO HIGHER.

>> IF WE BORROWED 28 MILLION LAST YEAR WHAT ON THE MNO SIDE WOULD YOU NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS YEAR? THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO FIND OUT IN COUNCIL, HAD WE BORROWED THE 28 MILLION AND STILL HAVE NO NEW REVENUE WE HAVE ADDED SO MUCH PROGRAMMING THIS YEAR WE HAVE TO DECIDE AS COUNCIL DO WE WANT ALL OF THAT NEW PROGRAMMING OR MONEY FOR ROADS?

RIGHT? >> YES, I WILL SAY YES.

>> BECAUSE WE ALMOST BORROWED THE 28 MILLION LAST YEAR AND WHATEVER THAT WOULD HAVE DONE YOU WOULDN'T DO WHAT YOU'RE DOING THIS YEAR, WHATEVER THAT IS, I DON'T KNOW.

>> THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN SOME, I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THE DEBT SERVICE TO HAVE TO TAKE UP THE INS RATE THAT LEFT THE GROWTH TO ONLY COVER MNO AND WE PROGRAMMED THAT.

THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A LITTLE BIT BUT NOT AS MUCH AS WHAT WE

HAVE PROGRAMMED RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY, SO THERE'S A HUGE EXPANSION OF SOMETHING. I WOULD KEEP THE ROAD PROJECTS ON THERE. I KNOW YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK BUT IF

WE BORROWED 28 MILLION LAST YEA- >> I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND

YOUR QUESTION -- >> LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO THIS AGAIN. LAST YEAR WE HAD THE ABILITY TO BORROW 28 MILLION AND NOT RAISE TAX IT TAXES. WE PASSED THE BUDGET 28 MILLION IN BORROWING CAPACITY WHICH WILL INCH UP THE INS RATE AND WE'RE STILL NO NEW REVENUE. WE GO IN THROUGH YEAR AND SAY WE CAN'T BORROW THAT BECAUSE WHAT THE DELTA COULD HAVE BEEN WE USED FOR MNO GAIN WHATEVER, SOMETHING IN THE MNO LINE USED UP THAT MONEY. THAT ON TOP OF THE NEW REVENUE WE HAVE COMING IN JUST FROM NEW GROWTH.

SO TO ME WE JUST HAVE TO DIG INTO THE BUDGET AND FIGURE OUT WHAT GOT ADDED PROGRAM-WISE. DO WE WANT THAT INQUIRY DO WE HAVE ANOTHER-- DO WE WANT THAT? DO WE HAVE ANOTHER YEAR OF BIG-TIME RAISES? I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW THESE THING BUT SOMEWHERE-- BECAUSE I THOUGHT LAST YEAR -- I MEAN, I'LL HAVE TO CALL DAN TOMORROW TO WALK ME THROUGH THIS. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE WENT.

HOW DO YOU GET FROM BEING ABLE TO BORROW THE MONEY TO NOT RAISE TAXES TO THAT'S GONE AND THE MNO TOOK IT ALL UP?

>> WELL, ARGUABLY, FRANKLY, WHAT IT MEANS IS FOR ME, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER WAS GIVEN, THAT DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR WHAT WE WOULD HAVE NEEDED FOR MNO IN THE FUTURE.

THAT WAS LITERALLY LIKE FREE BOARD OF NEW MONEY.

IF YOU USED ALL THE NEW MONEY FOR DEBT THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD ISSUE. THAT'S THE WAY THAT I INTERPRET IT BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY ENTIRELY THE WAY THAT IT WORKS BUT ALBERTA WOULD HAVE TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HER THINKING AND WHERE THE NUMBERS CAME FROM FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A MORE SPECIFIC ANSWER THAT THAT.

>> OKAY. I'LL WORK ON THAT.

>> GO LINE BY LINE AND SEE WHERE THE POTATO CHIP MONEY WENT.

WORK BACK FROM THERE. OKAY.

>> OKAY, SO BACK TO THIS. YOU WANT US TO LEAVE ALL THREE OF THOSE PROJECTS IN '27 SO WE'LL BORROW...

I GUESS AROUND 15 MINUS THE 5 SO ABOUT 10 MILLION IS WHAT WE'LL

NEED TO ISSUE. >> YUP.

ISSUE HALFWAY THROUGH THE YEAR SINCE IT WON'T BE READY TO GO

UNTIL TOWARDS THE END ANYWAY. >> RIGHT, BY DOING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANY INTEREST UNTIL THE NEXT YEAR.

WHICH IS THE WAY I WOULD PREFER TO DO IT.

THAT WAY YOU CAN SET WHAT YOUR RATE IS AND IT WON'T BE

AFFECTED. >> MM'HMM I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH

THAT. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON T19, THE CR-199. THAT'S IN BUDGET YEAR TWO SO I

CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT. >> NOPE.

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BUT YOU CAN PULL IT UP TO YEAR ONE THOUGH.

>> THAT'S MY POINT. IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY DESIGN THAT CAN BE PULLED IN TO YEAR ONE? OR WHAT IS THIS 19-- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT DO WE WANT TO GET DESIGN GOING NEXT YEAR SO THAT WE CAN-- THE GAINING ITEM THERE IS T04 AND THE 606 SOUTH AND 79 --

>> I THINK WE STARTED ON DESIGN BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO CAME UP AND SAID WE HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE WHOLE ROAD AND USE A FLAG GUY, 24 HOURS A DAY. BUT IT'S IN DESIGN, IS IT NOT?

>> T19 IS DESIGN. >> WE NEED TO FIX THAT THEN, KATE, BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE MONEY BUDGETED --

>> IN YEAR ONE. >> YEAR ONE.

>> 19 -- >> OR ACTUALLY IN PROJECTS UNDERWAY. WE SHOULD HAVE MONEY THERE.

>> IT'S ALL BEEN SPENT. IT WILL BE SPENT THIS YEAR AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CARRYOVER.

THIS REPORT IS JUST TRYING TO SHOW YOU WHAT PROJECTS ARE UNDERWAY THAT WE CAN'T REMOVE OR THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE. SO T19, THE DESIGN IS FINISHED.

WHAT'S OUT THERE IS THE CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS OUT IN

YEAR TWO. >> RIGHT.

>> SO -- >> WELL, THAT IS WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE DESIGN. IF THAT'S COMPLETE THEN --

>> YES, DESIGN IS COMPLETE. >> 'CAUSE THAT-- YOU KNOW, THE 1660 SOUTH AT U.S. 79 COORDINATING WITH 199 HAS TO BE KIND OF FLAWLESS FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS GETTING IN AND OUT OF THERE. THANK YOU.

>> DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES? ALL RIGHT. I GUESS WE'RE DONE WITH ROADS.

AND DRAINAGE. >> AND THERE'S WATER, WASTE WATER FOR THIS NEXT YEAR, YEAR ONE.

>> EASY PEASY. I AM HOPING THAT WE GET ENOUGH PROJECTS DESIGNED THAT WE CAN DO A BOND PACKAGE AND TO BE HONEST WITH PEOPLE AND SAY THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO GO UP AND WHEN THAT TIME COMES WE CAN THEN SAY IT WILL BE FIVE ROAD PROJECTS, THEY'RE DESIGNED AND BONDS COULD BE SOLD ON A MONDAY AND PROJECTS COULD BE STARTED THE FOLLOWING MONDAY.

YOU KNOW, NOT EXACTLY LIKE THAT BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO RAISE YOUR TAXES AND SELL BONDS AND GO OUT AND DO SOME DESIGNING AND THE LAST TIME WE DID THAT WE BLEW THROUGH $79 MILLION AND GOT NOTHING DONE BEFORE Y'ALL WERE HERE. THAT'S WHERE I HOPE TO CUT OUT OUTLINE THE YELLOW, LIKE THE POLICE STATION, TELL 'EM EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO CAST-- COST, THEY'RE DESIGNED READY TO GO AND IF YOU VOTE TODAY THEY'LL BE IN CONSTRUCTION IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE THE PLANS AND GO, I WILL VOTE FOR THAT. OTHERWISE, WE'RE GONNA PULL OUT OF HERE. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO SELL WHEN THEY'RE DONE. THAT WAS EASIER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE. I HAD IN MY NOTES, NO DURING ANO

PARK -- DURANGO PARK, CIP 19? >> I NEED YOU TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE STREETS. THAT WE'RE GONNA BORROW ABOUT 10 MILLION. THE PROJECTS ARE ABOUT 15.3 --

>> YOU GUYS NEED A MOTION FOR THAT?

>> PLEASE, SIR. >> TOGETHER: [LAUGHTER]

>> THAT WAS WORDED, I NEED A MOTION FOR YOU TO ADD $10 MILLION TO THE BUDGET FOR BORROWING.

>> TO BORROW APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION.

>> FOR T -- >> SERIES 27 COS FOR APPROXIMATELY 10 MILLION FOR STREET PROJECTS.

IF IT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIC WE'LL DO IT.

>> -- BUDGET 10 MILLION IN BORROWING FOR PROJECTS 47 AND

48. >> AND 73.

>> AND 73. >> YES, SIR.

WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON DOING IT BUT VOTING ON THE STAFF PUTTING IT IN THERE BUT WE CAN STILL CUT THE BUDGET BACK.

>> WHEN WE'RE READY TO DO THE ISSUE WE'LL BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO ISSUE THE DEBT.

>> WHEN THE ORDINANCE COMES IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT SAID IT'S ONLY FOR PROJECTS T47, 48 AND T73.

>> AND WAY LESS MONEY. >> THAT WAY THEN GO INTO THE

[02:30:02]

SLUSH ACCOUNT AND RESTRICT IT WHICH I KNOW THAT NO ONE LIKES.

>> WE'RE HAVING SLUSHIES? >> MAYOR, I HAVE NO SLUSH FUNDS.

MAKE SURE AND GET IT CLEAR, NO SLUSH FUNDS COMMUNICATIONS THAT

HAS IT. >> I'M GETTING PAID OFF RIGHT NOW FOR VOTING ON THIS ACCORDING TO SOME PEOPLE.

IT'S CRAZY. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILOR ZEPEDA.

>> AYE. >> KING.

>> AYE. >> MAYOR.

>> AYE. >> COUNCILOR MORRIS AYE.

>> COUNCILOR REYNOLDS. >> AYE.

>> PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. >> AYE.

>> PASSES 6-0. >> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU. >> WITH THAT WE MOVE TO

[ 10. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

EXECUTIVE SESSION THE TIME 9:41. RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEX GOVERNMENT CODE, AND CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE GATEWAY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND TAX REINVESTMENT ZONE.

B AND TAX SHARING AND LOCAL AGREEMENT AND PROPOSE LOCAL AGREEMENT FOR FIRE SERVICES WITH THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE. C, DISAWE LOSING OF COUNTY SERVICES-- TO TEXAS HEALTH AND CODE-- HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE CHAPTER 775, EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT, SALES TAX SELECTION TO REDUCE WILLIAMS COUNTY SALES TAX AND AN EX-ATION OF AN AREA WITHIN THE EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE.

D, ADAM ORGAIN PROJECTS C19-2024 IFB DASH 60 AND DASH 20.

ITEM 10.2, RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE ACCORDING TO CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.0 71 AND 51.087 AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO A PROJECT CORE, B PROJECT GOTHAM, C PROJECT BLUE HUB.

D PROJECT HEARTBEAT, E PROJECT AIR, F PROJECT ORCHARD, G PROJECT HULK, H

>>> ALL RIGHT, IT IS 12:13 BACK FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 11.1,

[11. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS LISTED ABOVE. AND I KNOW ONE I THINK THAT WE TALKED ABOUT I WAS GOING TO DO. AND THAT IS I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT STAFF OR THE CITY MANAGER TO TAKE A LETTER TO MICROTEC AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.

>> SECONDED. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? HEARING NONE, CALL THE VOTE.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY THAT'S FOR ITEM 10.1. D?

>> YES, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. LOOK AT THAT.

WASN'T EVEN IN THE MEETING AND KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILOR ZEPEDA. >> AYE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILOR THORE. >> AYE.

>> COUNCILOR REYNOLDS. >> AYE.

[12. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]

>> THE MOTION PASSES 6 ZERO. ANY OTHER ITEMS. 12.1. GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL? ANYTHING THERE?

>> YEAH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF GENERAL COMMENTS BUT THIS MAY LEAD INTO A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. I WAS TALKING WITH THE OWNER OF THE LAVISH BOUTIQUE THERE AT FARLEY AND E STREET NORTH OF US.

ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER. SHE WAS SEEKING INCENTIVES THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN INCENTIVE PROGRAM AND SHE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE ISSUE. IT TOOK TOO LONG.

SHE WAITED EIGHT MONTHS AND NOTHING HAPPENED.

SHE WAS TOLD IN A MEETING I GUESS SIX MONTHS AGO THAT SHE DIDN'T NEED A CERTIFICATE OF ACCESSIBILITY? NOT A CO. A CO NEXT WEEK.

>> APPROPRIATENESS. >> APPROPRIATENESS.

SHE SAID THERE WAS CERTAIN THINGS SHE WANTED TO DO SIX

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MONTHS AGO AND TOLD SHE DID NOT NEED TO DO THEM BUT WHEN IT CAME TO GETTING HER CA SHE WAS TOLD SHE HAD TO DO THESE THINGS.

NOW THIS WAS SIX MONTHS AGO AND IT WAS A TEAM OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE NEW IN DEVELOPING THIS AND I THINK MR. KUNTZ HAD ONLY BEEN HERE ONE MONTH AND IT'S NO EXCUSE OR ANYTHING BUT MAYBE THE PROCESS HAAS GOTTEN A LOT BETTED STREAMLINE THE GRANT PROGRAM WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE SO I THINK WE SHOULD TALK TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN USING THE GRANT PROGRAM.

>> SOUNDS LIKE AN AGENDA ITEM. >> YES.

JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. ANOTHER ITEM THAT THE SAME INDIVIDUAL BROUGHT UP YES, SHE WAS TOLD AND SHE TALKED TO YOU, MAYOR, ABOUT A PARKING GARAGE ACROSS FROM MARIO'S AND WE TALKED ABOUT A PLACESCAPE AND THERE WAS ACTION REVIEWING THAT POSSIBILITY BUT THERE WAS CONCERN FROM THE DOWNTOWN OWNERS THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A MULTI-STOREY GARAGE THERE.

>> AN AGENDA ITEM -- >> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM OR SOMETHING TO DISCUSS ON THE MESSAGE BOARD IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE BUT I JUST WANTED TO RELEASE STUFF THAT THE

PUBLIC IS TALKING ABOUT. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN AGENDA ITEM --

>> RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK JUST DOING-- RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST DOING GENERAL COMMENTS SO THAT'S LIKE, HEY, I WAS AT AN EVENT, BLAH, BLAH, APPRECIATE THAT, SEEN THIS, I THANK STAFF FOR THIS, I GOT A BAD HAMBURGER --

>> WHAT ABOUT A PARTY FROM A CONSTITUENT IN THE RIVER WALT NEIGHBORHOOD AND AN ISSUE THAT WE HAD WITH AN ITEM FOR THE

WASTE WATER DASHBOARD. >> IF YOU WANT ACTION ON THAT IT WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM AND NOT GENERAL --

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM WITH IT SO THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ABOUT A GENERAL COMMENT.

>> YOU CAN MAKE AN AGENDA ITEM. >> TO GIVE AN UPDATE, SO THAT

WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM. >> I'LL WAIT.

>> FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I'VE GOT A GRANT PROGRAM UPDATE ON THE RIVER WALK, WASTE WATER UPDATE.

>> JUST AN UPDATE TO THE RIVER COMMUNITY FOR THE PROCESS THERE THAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WASTE WATER PHASE 4.

>> IF YOU DON'T MIND, MAYOR, WHEN YOU ASK FOR AN AGENDA ITEM, ALWAYS SAY DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND IF YOU NEED TO TAKE ACTION YOU CAN BUT IF YOU SAY SUGGESTION THAT'S IT.

>> SO DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION.

>> YEAH. >> ANOTHER ONE.

>> ANOTHER COMMENT OR ITEM? >> ITEM.

>> OKAY. >> I WANT TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACTS THAT THE CITY GIVES DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS IN THE AREA, LOCAL AREAS THAT I'M WONDERING WHY THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN SOME OF THE BIDS AND THE PROCESS AND IN GETTING SOME OF THAT MONEY STAYING LOCAL HERE ON PROJECTS.

SO I WANTED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN CHANGE OUR BIDDING PROCESS TO WHERE X PERCENTAGE-- I'LL JUST DO IT HYPERTHREATICALLY-- 10% OF THAT CONTRACT AND HOW THAT'S DEFINED.

10% OF THAT MONEY WOULD STAY LOCAL HOWEVER LOCAL IS DEFINED AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING TO GET TRACTION HERE ON COUNCIL TO LOOK AT IS REVISING SOME OF OUR BIDDING PROCESS.

>> [INAUDIBLE] -- TO USE YOUR LOCAL

CONTRACTOR... >> YEAH, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE'S DESCRIBING, THOUGH, WHAT HE'S DESCRIBING IS THAT IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND $10 MILLION, ONE MILLION OF IT HAS TO BE LOCAL.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT IS AN EASY SOLUTION BUT WHAT WE DO HAVE IS LOCAL PREFERENCE MEANING THAT IF THE LOCAL VENDOR IS NOT THE LOW BIDDER BUT THEY'RE WITHIN A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE LOW BIDDER, WE CAN CHOOSE THEM IF EVEN THEY'RE NOT THE LOW BIDDER. THAT'S LOCAL PREFERENCE.

>> AGAIN, WHAT THE PERCENTAGE IS AND WHAT IS DEFINED LOCAL THAT'S UP FOR DEBATE, BUT YOU KNOW, IF MAYBE IT'S TIERED.

LIKE IF IT'S $50,000 WE NEED TO GIVE 10% OF THAT BUT IF IT'S

OVER 100,000 IT'S 2%. >> WE DON'T DISCUSS.

HOW ABOUT WE JUST REVIEW OUR BIDDING PROCESS.

>> YES, SIR. >> AND SEE IF THERE'S DISCUSSION

AND POSSIBLE ACTION. >> DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION.

>> THE INTENT IS TO KEEP THE LOCAL MONEY HERE AND START

PAYING OUR LOCAL PEOPLE. >> AGENDA ITEMS?

>> MAYOR, DO YOU HAVE-- DO THOSE AGENDA ITEMS HAVE TIME FRAMES?

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>> I'LL GIVE IT TO THESE GUYS TO COME UP.

WE'LL TRY AND GET THEM KNOCKED DOWN HERE THIS YEAR.

>> YEAH, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY RUSH BUT I JUST-- LOCAL SUPPLIERS AND CONTRACTORS HAVE SUGGESTED HOW DO WE GET ON TO THIS BIDDING PROCESS AND I SAID I WOULD BRING IT UP FOR COUNCIL

TO REVIEW. >> ALL RIGHT, THE ONE THAT I HAD AND I THOUGHT I BROUGHT IT UP, I THOUGHT I DID BEFORE BUT FOR THE NEXT MEETING AUGUST 6TH WE GET ALLAYMENTS FROM GARBER RELATING TO THE 132 BRIDGE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR POSSESSION AND WE REQUEST FROM GARBER ANY COMMUNICATION THEY HAVE FROM THEM TO TEXT DOT REGARDING THE 132 BRIDGE. BASICALLY I'M LOOKING FOR WHO PUSHED THE BRIDGE? ANY INFORMATION THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE THEY CAN... ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ALL RIGHT THEN WE'LL ADJOURN AT 12:21 A.M. ON FRIDAY, JULY 17TH.

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