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[Diversity and Inclusion Meeting on August 18, 2026.]

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ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER .

PRESENT.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER AINE.

PRESENT.

MR. WILLIAMSON IS ABSENT.

MR. FURY PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH IS ALSO ABSENT.

JUST EMAIL ME.

RIGHT.

UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT.

NONE.

NO.

PERFECT.

NOT PERFECT, I GUESS.

, LET'S MOVE ON.

.

THAT'S OKAY.

THANKS.

YEAH.

GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY STAFF.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE'S BEEN AWARE THAT OR NOT, BUT COMMISSIONER LEWIS HAS RESIGNED, SO, UM, WE'RE DOWN TO FIVE NOW, SO WE HAVE TWO OPEN, TWO OPEN SPOTS.

2 34.

YEAH, BUT TWO OPEN SPOTS.

UM, SO YEAH, I WOULD JUST LIKE STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF Y'ALL BEING HERE IN PERSON.

I KNOW IT'S A HASSLE, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE TO MAKE QUORUM.

UM, AND, UH, AND THEN ALSO JUST SHARING THAT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU HAVE ANY CONTACTS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS, I'M GONNA SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, TO PROMOTE IT FROM OUR SIDE TOO.

UM, BUT YEAH, JUST TRYING TO GET SOME APPLICANTS AND FILL THE SEATS ABOUT THAT.

GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES, UH, HERE.

SO ONE GENERAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS, 6.1 REVIEW AND UPDATE ON BUDGET PROGRESS TRACKER AS IT RELATES TO STRATEGIC IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.

COULD YOU BRING THAT, UH, TRACKER UP? SO I WENT AHEAD AND UPDATED BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I GOT FROM YOU AND STAN AND, UH, CHANGED UP A COUPLE THINGS WAY BACK.

I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO WE HAD DISCUSSED WHAT WE WANTED TO CHANGE.

UH, BUT HMM.

THAT'S NOT HOW THOSE LOOK IS IT WRONG? BUT I GUESS THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

IT'S NOT A, A SUPER IMPORTANT, UH, THING.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED TO KNOW IS THAT OF ALL THE ITEMS, UH, ABOUT $4,582 IS, HAS BEEN INVOICED, BUT STAN HAS NOT RECEIVED IT YET.

RIGHT.

BUT HE'LL GET IT, I'M SURE.

UM, AND ALSO THERE'S GONNA BE ABOUT 2,250 FOR THE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, UM, WHICH IS TWO CLASSES THAT HE'S GONNA DO.

ONE IN, I BELIEVE, SEPTEMBER AND ONE IN OCTOBER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

SO THAT LEAVES US WITH A GRAND TOTAL OF ABOUT $690 LEFT FROM THE BUDGET, WHICH AT THIS POINT, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD GIVE BACK OR READ.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO USE.

UH, WHAT THAT ALSO DOES IT, IT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL THE BUDGET OR THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE'RE REQUESTING ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, IS IT? RIGHT? YES.

YEAH.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO GIVE SOME BACK ALSO PUTS US IN A GOOD POSITION TO SAY, HEY, EVEN THOUGH WE REQUESTED THIS MUCH MONEY, WE'RE NOT GONNA USE IT ALL.

AND THE THING THAT WE DON'T USE, WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT BACK SO THEY DON'T GET SENSE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, GREEDY AND WE'RE JUST GONNA GO AFTER EVERY SINGLE PENNY THAT WE HAVE.

UH, HOPEFULLY THAT, THAT HELPS US, YOU KNOW, IN OUR REQUEST OUT OUTTA CURIOSITY, AND I APOLOGIZE, I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING.

UM, THE BUDGET WE HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR MM-HMM .

HOW MUCH OF A VARIANCE IS IT BETWEEN, RIGHT.

WHAT WE WOULD BE GIVING BACK TO WHAT WE WOULD BE REQUESTING? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? RIGHT.

SO TO, TO ANSWER THAT, JUST NUMBERS WISE, WE'RE GIVING BACK, WELL, WE'RE NOT USING SIX $90 FROM THIS CURRENT BUDGET, AND WE'RE GONNA REQUEST, SO IT'S NOT APPROVED, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT WE ARE REQUESTING ABOUT 11,685, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE NUMBER.

AND WE, I CAN THAT, I MEAN, YOU CAN BRING THAT UP, ABBY, IN A MOMENT,

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BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE REQUESTING THIS MEETING.

YOU KNOW, ITEM NUMBER 7.3, WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH THAT.

WE'LL BE DISCUSSING WHAT WE CAN TAKE OFF BECAUSE, OR WHAT WE CAN ADD.

IDEALLY, WE WANT IT TO BE AS LEAD AS POSSIBLE.

UH, WE DID DO A WHOLE LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, CONSULTING THIS YEAR, SO WE MAY NOT REQUIRE AS MUCH IN THE COMING YEAR.

RIGHT? SO, UH, THE IDEA IS GOING TO BE TO PRESENT A BARE BONES BUDGET TO THE COUNCIL.

UH, YOU KNOW, IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS A GROWING TOWN, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, REQUESTS FOR BUDGET FROM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, TAKING FROM WHERE IT'S NEEDED MORE.

SO ANYWAYS, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHY IT'S NOT SHOWING UP FOR YOU, ABBY.

UH, I THINK IT'S JUST PROBABLY YOU'RE USING A MACBOOK.

IT PROBABLY IS.

YEAH.

EXCEL DOESN'T LIKE ME.

I'M A WORD.

WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PULL IT UP? JUST, JUST CHECK IF THAT, OH, YOU'RE USING PHONE ON MACBOOK? UH, MY WIFE MADE ME DO IT.

, .

UM, IN SEGUEING, IF, IF I MAY, I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU.

SO IF THERE'S MORE TO SAY ABOUT THE BUDGET, THEN, OKAY.

I'M NOT A CITY PLANNER.

MM-HMM .

AND I'M NOT A FINANCE GUY, EVEN THOUGH I TAUGHT FINANCES IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING CITY, CITY TAXPAYER DOLLARS BEING USED TO FUND PROGRAMS. SO THE $690 THAT WE HAVE IN EXCESS, WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR IT TO BE USED RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GIVING IT BACK TO MY UNDERSTANDING A BUDGET TO IMAGINARY MONEY.

RIGHT? THIS ISN'T LIKE NO ONE WROTE US A CHECK FOR WHAT WE ASKED FOR, AND IT'S SITTING IN A BANK ACCOUNT.

SO WE'RE WAITING TO BE USED, RIGHT? SO THIS, THIS ISN'T, THERE'S NOTHING REALLY TO GIVE BACK.

WE'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA USE THIS MONEY WHETHER WE USE IT OR NOT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO, UM, WE'RE NOT, RIGHT NOW, THIS SIX 90 IS TASKED AND NOT BEING ASSIGNED OR USED FOR ANY PURPOSE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ONE MM-HMM .

EVEN THOUGH A CONVERSATION SHOULD BE HAD TO WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE ADDITIONAL NEED THAT'S NOT, UH, IN TRAINING, RIGHT.

WITH CONSULTING FEES, BECAUSE THE MASS, THE BULK OF OUR REQUESTED BUDGET IS FOR CONSULTING FEES, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

UM, BUT WE HAVE NEEDS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SENIOR CITIZENS AND VETERANS AND SMALL BUSINESSES THAT THIS $690 IN EXCESS COULD GO TO, THAT WE COULD USE FOR, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO, BEFORE WE MAKE ANY HARD LINE DECISIONS, WE SHOULD BE MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S NOT A NEED FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MAKING A PROMISE TO NOT USE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THIS ANYWAY.

AND GIVING IT BACK ISN'T GONNA GIVE SOMEONE EXTRA TO HAVE LEEWAY IN THE FUTURE TO ASK FOR MORE, THAT WE'RE MORE LIKELY THAN NOT.

BASED ON THE CONVERSATION WITH JIM MORRIS LAST MEETING SAID, WE PROBABLY WON'T GET IT ANYWAY.

IT SOUNDS LIKE, UH, LIKE WE SHOULD BE USING WHAT WE HAVE TO THE BEST OF THE ABILITY OF CITIZENS HERE IN THE, IN THE CITY, SO THAT WHEN THERE'S LESS, WE DON'T HAVE MORE PEOPLE ASKING FOR AND NOT ABLE TO GIVE THEM, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TASKED LESS DOLLARS.

'CAUSE I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, UH, SENIOR CITIZENS WE'RE IN GROUP RUNS A PROGRAM EVERY SINGLE WEEK, EVERY SINGLE WEEK, AND THEY COULD SURE.

USE EXTRA HELP.

UH, WHY BE UNDERSERVED? IT'S, IT'S, UH, WE SHOULD BE THROWING EVERY RESOURCE WE CAN AT OUR THREE GROUPS.

YEAH.

SO THAT, THAT WAS KIND OF WHERE MY QUESTION WAS, WAS IF, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GONNA REQUEST, WE REQUESTED, WAS IT 17,000 THIS YEAR, THIS, THIS PAST YEAR? AND IF WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR AND BE ANYWHERE IN THAT RANGE, I THINK WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO FIND THE USE FOR THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THE GOODWILL.

OH, WELL, SINCE YOU GUYS DIDN'T USE THAT AND YOU WERE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE X 690, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU, LIKE, MY EXPERIENCE WITH ANYTHING BUDGETARY IS THEY'RE LIKE, NOPE.

IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU CAN'T REQUEST THE NEXT YEAR.

YEAH.

LIKE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIND, SO I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO, TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT THAT STILL SUPPORTS, BECAUSE OUR BUDGET ALLOCATION WASN'T TOO SPECIFIC ITEMS. IT WAS MORE SO, HEY, WE'RE GIVING, GRANTED WE HAVE A PLAN FOR IT, BUT OUR COMMISSION ISN'T TASKED WITH, WELL, YOU SPENT MORE THAN $1,700 ON THE WORKING GROUPS, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR BUDGETARY REQUEST.

RIGHT.

LIKE, WE CAN KIND OF MOVE IT.

SO I, I DO THINK IT MIGHT NOT BE

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A BAD IDEA TO FIND A GOOD USE FOR IT, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA GET THAT OPPORTUNITY AGAIN.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

UH, NOTED.

AND I MEAN, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, I DO FEEL THE SAME WAY.

MY, THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT THOUGH, AND THIS IS NOT TO NEGATE ANY OF YOUR POINTS, BUT THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT IS, UM, THE, THE COMMISSION REALLY ISN'T A FUNDING SOURCE.

SO AS TO SAY FOR ANY OF THE WORKING GROUPS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT, UH, WE DON'T WANT TO ACT AS THE MONEY THAT WE GET AS A COMMISSION OR APPROVED, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CITY IS, IS GOING TO THE WORKING GROUP SPECIFICALLY, OR FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES SPECIFICALLY, WE CAN SURELY FIND A WAY, AND THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT REQUIRES, UH, A CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN HAVE RIGHT NOW.

ABSOLUTELY NOT AN ISSUE.

BUT MY PERSPECTIVE IS THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY STEWARDS OF MONEY.

UM, SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN STOCK UP ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE DID FOR, LIKE THE, THE HIPPOS THAT WE HAVE OR THE FANS AND ALL THAT.

WE COULD DO THAT.

UM, BUT WHAT'S DRIVING THAT? THAT, THAT'S WHAT I, WHERE I'M COMING FROM IS THAT, IS IT COMING FROM THE, FROM, FROM A PLACE LIKE, HEY, WE HAVE THIS, LET'S USE IT.

OR, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CYNICAL POINT IS, SINCE WE HAVE THIS MONEY, LET'S USE THIS AND MORE, THE GOODWILL POINT IS, WELL, WE WANNA HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

AND BECAUSE WE WANNA HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WE, WE HAVE THIS MONEY AND LET'S PUT IT TO, TO USE.

MY CONCERN IS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE ACTING FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF GOODWILL, WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE WANT TO HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN, SO LET'S TRY AND FIND USE FOR THIS MONEY.

WHEN I GO PRESENT TO THE COUNCIL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE THAT, HEY, WE HAVE, YOU'RE USING IT FOR GOOD ONE PURPOSES, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE OUT FUNDING ANY INDIVIDUALS, UH, GOALS.

OKAY? THESE ARE WORK GROUPS THAT WE ARE PUTTING TOGETHER TO DO THE WORK.

WE ARE A CONDUIT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING WHAT THEY NEED SO THAT WE CAN GET A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THIS CITY NEEDS TO GROW TOWARD.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT? SO IF WE ARE THE STEWARDS OF THESE WORKING GROUPS, WE'RE SPONSORS, RIGHT? SO WE'RE SPONSORING THEM TO DO SOMETHING AND THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE NEED HELP.

WE NEED A BANNER.

'CAUSE WE WANNA DO THIS.

HEY, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO A, B, OR C.

WE SHOULD BE FINDING A LEGAL WAY WITHIN OUR ABILITY OF THIS COMMISSION TO HELP MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND SOMETIMES THAT COSTS MONEY, RIGHT? IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE, HEY, SO, UH, YOU GUYS GOT A GOOD GROUP PUT TOGETHER, GOOD LUCK.

IF YOU NEED US, WE'LL BE OVER HERE.

BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME TO US AND ASK FOR HELP, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM SOMEWHERE.

AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT JUST ADVICE, RIGHT? RIGHT.

ESPECIALLY SINCE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT OUR MONEY.

IT'S, THESE ARE ACTUALLY TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT WE'RE PUTTING BACK INTO, UH, PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE SPONSORING.

RIGHT? SO, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I RESPECT YOUR DECISION.

WHATEVER IT'S, YOU WANNA DO, I'M JUST BEING A VOICE BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, I'M WITH THE SENIOR CITIZENS MOST THURSDAYS AND, UH, IN THEIR MEETING, AND THEY'RE, UH, PLANNING A RESOURCE FAIR FOR SENIORS ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, UH, FROM 9:00 AM UNTIL NOON.

AND BOY, I TELL YOU, THEY'RE MAKING DO WHAT THEY GOT, BUT THEY SURE COULD USE A LITTLE BIT OF HELP, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM .

SO, AND AS SPONSORS OF THAT PROGRAM, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE TRYING, WE SHOULD, IT SHOULD BE A FIRE SALE.

WE SHOULD BE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO HELP THESE THREE GROUPS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD SO THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PARTICIPATE SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T STRUGGLING.

BECAUSE I'LL TELL YOU, CHUCK TROOP IS USING HIS OWN MONEY MM-HMM .

TO DO THINGS FOR THE GROUP, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT IT'S LIKE, HMM.

NOT IDEAL.

I WOULDN'T IT BE NICE? YEAH.

AND I, AND I, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF IN UNCHARTED TERRITORY, SO I KNOW THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT WE'VE LIKE PLANNED OUT, BUT MM-HMM .

JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW DO THE WORKING GROUPS, IF THEY HAVE A NEED FOR RESOURCES, THAT, THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, IF, IF YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL IN THE GROUP

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WHO IS IN A POSITION TO COME OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, THAT'S GREAT.

THEY SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO.

BUT I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES THERE ARE PEOPLE, LIKE, I DON'T MIND SPENDING, YOU KNOW, X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR PIZZA OR, OR FOOD FOR THE GROUP, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

BUT WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A LIMITING FACTOR FOR ANY OF THE OTHER GROUPS THAT WE HAVE, OR IN A CERTAIN TIME OF THE YEAR OR WHATEVER.

SO I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE A WAY FOR THEM TO ESSENTIALLY PETITION OUR COMMISSION, SINCE WE'RE THE ONES WHO ARE PUTTING, WE PUT THAT GROUP TOGETHER MM-HMM .

TO SAY, HEY, WE HAVE SOMETHING TO HELP YOU.

RIGHT? AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE, WE'RE GIVING EACH WORKING GROUP A THOUSAND DOLLARS TO WORK WITH, BUT IF THEY SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO PUT THIS TOGETHER, OR TO PROVIDE THIS, OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY, DO WE HAVE, DO WE HAVE THAT TO DO THAT? YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GO TO, THEY DON'T GET TO SUBMIT A BUDGET REQUEST, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

SO I DO THINK THAT IT WOULD BE IN OUR BEST INTEREST, ESPECIALLY IF WE WANT THE WORKING GROUPS THAT CONTINUE.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I, I DON'T THINK A LACK OF RESOURCES SHOULD BE WHAT MAKES SOMEONE SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I CAN'T CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS WORKING GROUP BECAUSE I CAN'T KEEP, I CAN'T KEEP COMING OUTTA MY OWN POCKET TO DO THESE THINGS.

YOU KNOW? SO I DO THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF WE HAVE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, A DATE SEPTEMBER 15TH, THE DAY WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, THERE'S AN EVENT GOING ON.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU NEED FROM US? ANY WAY THAT YOU, WE CAN SUPPORT YOU? AND IF THEY WERE TO SAY, HEY, WELL, WE NEED THIS, HAVE THAT, I MEAN, WE CAN REIMBURSE, CAN WE REIMBURSE CITIZENS? OR SO, YOU KNOW, AND THAT COME FROM OUR COMMISSION THAT'S ALREADY ALLOCATED.

I FEEL LIKE THAT SHOULD BE PRIOR TO GIVING ANYTHING BACK.

I THINK WE SHOULD CHECK WITH THOSE GROUPS TO SEE.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT, GIVE IT BACK.

I'M NOT FOR JUST SPENDING MONEY, JUST 'CAUSE WE NEED, WE HAVE THE MONEY, RIGHT.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD KIND OF TAP INTO ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT ARE EXTENSIONS OF US AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO NEED OF IT BEFORE WE TOSS IT BACK INTO THE, THE POT.

THAT'S, I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, A BETTER USE OF THAT OR, OR A BETTER APPROACH TO THAT.

I, I MEAN, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST THAT, UH, POINT.

DO WHAT DO, WHAT DO, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? HOW IS THE COUNCIL GONNA LOOK AT IT? BECAUSE OKAY.

YEAH.

CHECK THIS OUT, BROTHER.

MM-HMM .

LET'S STOP WORRYING ABOUT OPTICS AND START WORRYING ABOUT HOW WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

RIGHT? IF WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN, WE MAKE IT HAPPEN.

IF IT CAN'T HAPPEN, THEN IT DOESN'T, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE REACHED A POINT WHERE WE, WE'VE GOTTA STOP WORRYING ABOUT HOW SOMEONE'S GONNA FEEL ABOUT SOMETHING.

PEOPLE ARE IN NEED.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW SOMEONE MIGHT PERCEIVE IT, THAT'S IRRELEVANT RIGHT NOW.

THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW IS FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS.

ABSOLUTELY.

MY CONCERN IS NOT THE OPTICS, OR, BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT THIS IS A GOOD, GOOD THING TO DO.

YES, SIR.

SO IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHERE THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS AGREEMENT NECESSARILY IS.

MY CONCERN IS MORE AROUND THE FACT THAT IS THE, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DECIDES YES.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA GET NEXT YEAR.

RIGHT? AND MY, MY CONCERN IS FROM THE POINT OF VIEW THAT, OKAY, WE CAN GET SIX 90, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THIS THING RIGHT NOW.

BUT DOES THAT MEAN THE COUNCIL DOES NOT APPROVE IT'S, OR HOW MUCH IT'S A IMAGINARY MONEY BROTHER? LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE, LIKE IF YOU GIVE IT BACK, IT, IT LITERALLY JUST STAYS WHEREVER IT IS.

THIS, THIS IS AN ALLOCATION, RIGHT? IT'S NOT SITTING IN A BANK.

WE'RE NOT GIVING SOMETHING.

ABSOLUTELY.

I, I GET THAT POINT.

I GUESS MY, MY, MY CONCERN IS THE COUNCIL, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT WE'RE TIGHT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, AS A CITY, EVERY PENNY IS GONNA BE LOOKED AT ACCOUNTED FOR FROM THEIR, FROM, FROM THE CITY.

AND THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY, HEY, I DON'T, I MEAN, I FEEL THAT IF WE RETURN SOME, SOME NOT RETURN, NOT IN THE, IN THE SENSE OF RETURNING THAT IF WE SHOW THE COUNCIL THAT, HEY, JUST BECAUSE IT'S APPROVED DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE ARE GONNA USE EVERY SINGLE PENNY OF IT.

I FEEL THAT THAT WOULD MAKE THEM INCLINED TO APPROVE OUR PROPOSED BUDGET BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO THEM EXCEEDING $10,000 WITH LIKE, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN, UH, ARBITRARY NUMBER.

BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT PROCESS.

THAT IF WE RETURN, AGAIN, WHEN I SAY RETURN, I DON'T MEAN ACTIVELY RETURNING, BUT IN A SENSE,

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RETURN THE MONEY.

IT ENABLES US, IN MY OPINION, TO GET MORE SO THAT WE CAN, UH, CONTINUE.

BECAUSE IN MY MIND, WE CAN DO SIX 90, I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

IT'S NOT MY MONEY, IT'S THE TAXPAYER'S MONEY.

AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO A GOOD CAUSE.

DOES THAT STOP US FROM DOING IT AGAIN IN THE FUTURE? THAT'S MY CONCERN.

SO I, I THINK THE PERSPECTIVE THAT I HAVE IS WHEN WE PUT THIS BUDGET IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL OF LAST YEAR, RIGHT? WE JUSTIFIED IT WITH WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO.

SO IT WAS APPROVED FOR MM-HMM .

THE LARGER PURPOSE FOR DEIB, RIGHT? RIGHT.

IF WE ARE, ARE SPENDING WHAT WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA AND PURPOSE THAT IT WAS APPROVED FOR, THERE'S NO NEED TO SCRUTINIZE IT AS WAS IT, WAS IT A GOOD SPEND OR A BAD SPEND? RIGHT? SO I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE NEXT BUDGET AND REQUEST SOMETHING SIMILAR, YOU STILL HAVE TO SAY, WELL, WAS IT, WAS IT WORTH IT? RIGHT? LIKE, WE'VE HAD THE CONSULTING EXPENSES ON IT FOR YEAR AFTER YEAR.

YOU STILL HAVE TO SAY, ARE WE GETTING WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR WITH THE CONSULTING? RIGHT.

IF WE'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE IT.

IF THE SIX 90 GETS SPENT IN A WAY THAT CITY COUNCIL SEE DEEMS IS INAPPROPRIATE OR NOT IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR COMMISSION IS TASKED FOR, THEY WON'T APPROVE IT THE NEXT TIME.

BUT IF WE'RE PRUDENT ABOUT, HEY, THIS WORKING GROUP NEEDS THE, THESE FUNDS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO, AND THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT, THERE'S NO PROBLEM COMING BACK TO THEM NEXT YEAR AND ASKING FOR IT AGAIN IF THE CITY'S TIGHT OR A FINANCIAL DECISION IS MADE.

'CAUSE THAT HAPPENS TOO, WHERE GREAT PROGRAMS GET CUT EVERY YEAR.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT? SO IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN ALWAYS ABOUT WHETHER WE DESERVE IT OR NOT.

SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FINANCIALLY WE'RE GONNA LIVE WITH THAT DECISION AS WELL.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE THE DECISION WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT BY DOING IT, IT GIVES US A GREATER CHANCE OF GETTING IT IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK THE WAY THAT WE USE THE FUNDS, THE WAY THAT WE CHOOSE TO USE THE FUNDS UNDER THE, THE UMBRELLA THAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED, ACTUALLY, IS WHAT'S GONNA GIVE US THE, THE STANDING TO COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, AND MAYBE WE DON'T NEED 690 TO HELP WITH THE WORKING GROUPS, BUT 400 WILL DO FOR NEXT YEAR.

RIGHT.

I THINK WE CAN STILL MAKE THAT DECISION WITHOUT FEELING LIKE WE HAVE TO SPEND ALL SIX 90.

BUT I DO THINK THAT HAVING A THOROUGH THOUGHT PROCESS, AND IF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, I THINK IS PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE A THOROUGH THOUGHT PROCESS THAT SAYS, WE'RE NOT SPENDING JUST SPEND, WE'RE SPENDING TO ACCOMPLISH A GOAL.

DID WE ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL WITH THE SIX 90 THAT WE SPENT, OR THE 400 OR WHATEVER? YES.

OKAY.

WE CAN ASK FOR IT.

AGAIN, IF DOING THAT DOESN'T GET US WHAT WE WANT, WE SHOULDN'T GO BACK AND ASK FOR IT AGAIN.

YEAH.

LIKE, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE SHOULDN'T KIND OF LIKE AUTOMATICALLY GO WITH THE APPROACH OF, WE DIDN'T USE IT YET, GIVE IT BACK.

AND I DO THINK THAT THERE IS A NEED SOMEWHERE.

MAYBE WE JUST HAVEN'T ASKED.

RIGHT? LIKE, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SENIOR, THE SENIOR GROUP, THE VETERAN GROUP COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S A, THERE'S STILL THAT ASPECT I THINK SHOULD BE PUT OUT AND JUST SAY, HEY, THE YEAR COMING TO A CLOSE, WHAT DO YOU STILL HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA? WHAT ARE THINGS THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO GET DONE? WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US TO HELP WITH THAT? 'CAUSE THEY MAY HAVE HAD SOME IDEAS, BUT IN THEIR MIND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.

MM-HMM .

SO THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT TO ASK.

SO I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD AT LEAST THROW IT OUT THERE, SEE WHAT THE NEED IS, AND THEN IF WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH THE SIX 90, LET'S GO FOR IT.

WE DON'T NEED TO USE ALL OF IT JUST TO USE IT.

BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD ASK THAT QUESTION FIRST.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THIS IS WHAT I'LL DO SINCE NIKKI IS LEADING THE VETERANS GROUP AND THE LIAISON OR LIAISON FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS GROUP.

WHAT, AND SINCE YOU'RE HERE, MU, WHAT DO YOU THINK, UH, WHAT WOULD, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE, WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED FOR THE NEXT EVENT OR EVENTS THAT, UH, THE SENIORS, SENIORS GROUP IS HAVING? YEAH, SO I WOULD SAY THE, THE BIGGEST EVENT THAT THEY'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS THIS SENIOR CITIZENS, UH, LIKE RESOURCE FAIR, WHICH LIKE I SAID, IS HAPPENING SEPTEMBER 17TH.

AND I SAY IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS RECORDED AND PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING AT HOME WILL HAVE AN IDEA.

IT'S GONNA BE AT THE DISCOVERY CENTER AT THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH HERE IN HU ON CHRIS KELLY.

AND, UM, IT'S SEPTEMBER 17TH FROM NINE TO NOON.

AND THE IDEA IS TO HAVE VENDORS COME IN FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MEDICAID, MEDICARE, ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF SENIORS RESOURCES.

UH, UM,

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LIKE WE DON'T HAVE A BUS SYSTEM, SO LIKE A TRANSIT SYSTEM.

THEY HELP THEM GET TO APPOINTMENTS.

ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING IN A A RP AND ALL AND SUCH.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT LIKE WE, WE SHOULD BE, I MEET WITH THEM, WE'RE MEETING EVERY THURSDAY UNTIL THE RESOURCE FAIR OCCURS, AND TO GET WITH THEM AND SEE IF THEY ARE LACKING IN ANY WAY, UM, FOR THAT RESOURCE FAIR, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG ONE FOR THE CITY.

AND THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE A LOT OF VENDORS AND, UH, AND A LOT OF SENIOR ASSISTANTS.

AND WE'RE DOING A LOT OF, UH, ADVERTISING FOR IT ON OUR OWN.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA NEED SOME HELP.

AND, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, ZEPEDA IS, IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HER BABY TOO.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION OF NEED THERE.

I SEE THEM MAKING IT WORK EVERY WEEK.

'CAUSE EVERY THURSDAY THEY DO A GAME NIGHT WHERE THAT'S GETTING BIGGER UNDER THE GUISE OF THE SENIORS, UH, WORK GROUP.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THEY'VE GOT A NEED, SO, OKAY.

YEAH.

AND I KNOW THAT MY TONE IS A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE SOMETIMES.

I'M ON YOUR SIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? .

SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT DOING, IT'S, I'M NOT, IF I'M NOT KNIFE HANDING YOU LIKE THE MARINE, I AM, YOU'RE SAFE.

I'M JUST LIKE, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A NEED AND LIKE WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO FILL THESE NEEDS.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

BUT NO, I HEAR THAT.

I'M ON YOUR, I'M ON YOUR SIDE.

I'M NOT UPSET.

MM-HMM .

I'M JUST, I JUST HAVE A DEEP FORCE AND POWER OF THE GOD'S STANDING BEHIND ME.

SO WHEN, WHEN DOES THAT, UM, EXPIRE? YEAH.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

END OF FISCAL YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE WHEN A NEW BUDGET GETS, I'VE TALKED OCTOBER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE IT GOES BACK TO THE CITY.

IT JUST DISAPPEARS.

YES.

YEAH.

YEAH.

NOT SPENT.

UM, I MEAN, AND IT GOES BACK TO THE CITY AND I MEAN, YES, IT GOES IN WHATEVER GRAND FUND, RIGHT? BUT FOR US, IT JUST GOES AWAY.

OH, YEAH.

AND FOR, AND FOR THE CITY AS IT STANDS, IT'S ASSUMED SPENT ALREADY.

YEAH.

SO, 'CAUSE IT'S FROM THE BUDGET FROM THAT WAS AGREED ON LAST YEAR.

SO GIVING IT BACK DOESN'T GIVE THEM MORE IT DOES IN A SENSE, IN A SENSE, BUT RIGHT.

YEAH.

REALISTICALLY IT JUST DISAPPEARS NET POSITIVE.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

SO, SINCE WE ARE KIND OF STARTING UP, WELL, STARTING UP THE VETERANS, UH, GROUP.

WELL, MY, MY, MY QUESTION THEN IS HOW WOULD THAT KIND OF FLOW, BECAUSE IT'S THE, THIS IS ON SEPTEMBER 17TH.

YEP.

UH, WE WANNA MAKE ALL OUR TRANSACTIONS OR INVOICING BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST.

I ASSUME, UH, YOU JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UM, MADE THE TRANSACTION AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE WHATEVER, LIKE IF YOU ORDERED SOMETHING AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT PHYSICALLY IN HAND YES.

BY THE LAST DAY OF SEPTEMBER.

UM, JUST, JUST OKAY.

JUST ENOUGH.

SO IF YOU ORDER SOMETHING, LIKE YOU CAN'T ORDER SOMETHING SEPTEMBER 30TH AND THEN CALL IT GOOD.

YEAH.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT RECEIVED.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, THE ONLY THING I'M THINKING OF IS, UH, THE VETERANS GROUP, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S IN SUCH A NASCENT STAGE, THEY'RE PROBABLY ONLY GONNA HAVE LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF SNACKS YEAH.

OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO, AND SO HERE'S THE THING.

MM-HMM .

NIKKI'S NOT HERE.

RIGHT.

NIKKI IS DUE TO HEAD UP AND HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING TO TRY AND, UH, COLLABORATE WITH, WITH, UH, THE AMERICAN LEGION AND SUCH TO GET THESE THINGS DONE, TO STAND UP TO WORKING GROUP MM-HMM .

UM, THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN WE DON'T HAVE SPACE IN THE CITY FOR PEOPLE TO MEET REGULARLY.

THE IDEA IS IF WE CAN GET EVERYTHING FLOWING, MOVING, IF THE MOMENTUM WITH THE SENIORS WORK GROUP CONTINUES MM-HMM .

THERE'S A GREAT CHANCE THAT THE SAME SPACE THAT WE HOLD EVENTS IN AT THE DISCOVERY CENTER FOR SENIORS, WE CAN START HOLDING EVENTS IN MM-HMM .

FOR VETERANS.

AND SO IT'S LIKE, I'M REALLY MOTIVATED AND EXCITED AND ENTHUSIASTIC, WHATEVER WORD YOU WANT TO THROW AT IT, ABOUT KEEPING THEM GOING.

BECAUSE OUR TEMPLATE IS EXACTLY WHAT THE SENIORS WORK GROUP IS DOING.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, THEY'RE JUST, THERE'S A PHENOMENAL GROUP OF FOLKS THERE.

I'M THERE TAKING NOTES, LEARNING, AND IT CAN BE DUPLICATED FOR ALL OUR WORK GROUPS MOVING FORWARD.

MM-HMM .

AND, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH.

UM, SO LET'S PUT MOST, UH, PUSH BEHIND THEM.

YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE, YEAH.

I FEEL LIKE IF, IF, IF, UH, IF WE'VE GOT A MODEL THAT'S WORKING WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE WORK AND, AND THEY'RE ALLOWING, THEN THEY'RE SHARING THEIR, THEIR KNOWLEDGE, RIGHT.

'CAUSE THESE ARE ALL CITIZENS.

AND IF WE CAN, IF THEY'RE ALLOWING US A PEEK BEHIND THE CURTAIN TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING IT, YEAH.

WE SHOULD BE HELPING THEM ANY WHICH WAY WE CAN, BECAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE OUR MODEL.

THE SUCCESS THAT THEY'VE HAD WEEK OVER WEEK IS IMPRESSIVE TO SAY THE LEAST.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

SO LET'S DO IT THIS WAY.

THE GENERAL BOARD SENTIMENT IS THREE OF US RIGHT NOW.

SO, BUT THE GENERAL BOARD SENTIMENT IS THAT WE SHOULD BE USING, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED

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TO THAT.

SO WHAT, WHAT WHAT I WOULD DO IS MUSA, IF YOU CAN, UH, I MEAN, WE HAVE LIKE A MONTH AND A HALF TO KIND OF PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE NEED.

YES.

SO IF YOU COULD PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE WOULD NEED FOR THE SENIORS GROUP AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND KIND OF ORDER AS MUCH AS WE CAN, OR, YOU KNOW, GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN BEFORE, UH, THE TIME, THE MONEY, OR, YOU KNOW, WELL THEY RUN OUT.

SO LET'S, LET'S, LET'S DO THAT.

UH, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FEEL IT'S GONNA FLOW.

UH, THAT THE NEEDS M AND A FROM THE GROUP, WE FIND OUT WE DIVERT WHATEVER RESOURCES WE CAN.

AND THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST.

SO, UH, IF WE HAVE, IF WE HAVE A LIST OF, UH, NEEDS, THAT'D BE GREAT.

WE, WE DON'T NEED TO VOTE ON THIS, RIGHT? NO.

RIGHT.

IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE MUCH I WOULD LIKE TO, YOU CAN WHAT, UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE THE BOOK ON THIS TOPIC, I'M GONNA MEET WITH THEM ON THURSDAY.

MM-HMM .

UH, FOR THE USE.

AND IF ANITA IS DISCOVERED ON THURSDAY, SHOULD WE TALK OFFLINE OR SHOULD I SPEAK WITH YOU AND ABBY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, OR SHOULD WE PROCEED? SHOULD WE HAVE A CONVERSATION? PROCEED AND THEN TRY AND OBTAIN REIMBURSEMENT? OKAY.

HOW DOES REIMBURSEMENT WORK? UM, SO I WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT FOR SURE.

MM-HMM .

UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE, WE HAVE A, A REIMBURSEMENT FORM THAT THEY'LL NEED TO FILL OUT.

OKAY.

AND THEN Y'ALL CAN GIVE THAT TO ME AND I'LL TURN IT INTO OUR FINANCE PEOPLE AND, UM, THEY'LL MOST LIKELY WRITE A CHECK OR I THINK THEY DO HAVE.

RIGHT.

BUT, BUT WHO CAN BE THE ONE THAT PAYS? THAT'S ANYONE.

ANYONE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN, YOU CAN ALSO PUT IT THROUGH ME TOO.

IT'S THAT, ACTUALLY, THAT MIGHT BE EASIER, BUT, UM, 'CAUSE I CAN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A CARD I CAN, ALRIGHT.

SO JUST TAKE THE CREDIT CARD INFORMATION.

YEAH, YEAH.

HOLD ON A SECOND.

LEMME YOU THE PHONE.

DON'T WANNA GET FIRED.

, I HAVE MY UNCLE HERE IN NIGERIA, BUT EITHER ONE.

SO SEE WHAT WORKS BETTER FOR THE, FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS AND, AND WE CAN DO THAT.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK, UH, THE WAY I LIKE THAT ONE, THE WAY IT WORK IS JUST IDENTIFYING IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, PLACE THE ORDER AS LONG AS IT'S WITHIN.

I MEAN, WE CAN ONLY SUPPORT UP UNTIL SIX 90, RIGHT? IT'S NOT EXACTLY SIX 90, I THINK IT'S LIKE SIX 80 SOMETHING CHANGE.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO WE CAN ONLY SUPPORT IT UNTIL THAT POINT, BUT ANYTHING UNDER THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BURN THE BULK EITHER.

LIKE, AND BE LIKE, OH YEAH, 6 80, 6 81, YOU KNOW, ADD A COUPLE KIT KATS IN THERE, .

BUT IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'RE TERRIBLE FOR THIS MANUFACTURED CHOCOLATE.

UM, ONE THING WE COULD THINK ABOUT TOO THOUGH, IS RIGHT, SO OUR, OUR WORKING GROUP, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE SENIOR WORKING GROUP IS THE ONE THAT'S KIND OF THE MOST FUNCTIONING MM-HMM .

AT THE MOST.

RIGHT.

AND WE HAVE TOTAL THREE.

RIGHT? SO IF WE USE, IF THE PLAN IS TO USE THE SENIOR GROUP AS THE MODEL, WE COULD TAKE THAT SIX 90, SEE WHAT THIS REQUEST KIND OF GENERATES, AND THEN KIND OF LOOK AT THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF CALLING CANADA SCAMS. UM, THEY WANT YOUR CREDIT CARD.

I KNOW.

CREDIT CARD AND WAS LIKE, ALRIGHT.

UM, AND SAY LIKE, COULD WE REALISTICALLY MAYBE BUDGET TO SPONSOR ONE WORKING GROUP EVENT A YEAR AND WHATEVER THIS AMOUNT IS, WE JUST MULTIPLY THAT BY THREE.

SO LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD LIKE EACH GROUP WOULD GET.

IF IT'S 150 THAT YOU END UP SPENDING, HEY, EVERY GROUP WE CAN PUT 150 TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE TO MAKE THAT USE CASE FOR THE BUDGET, IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE WOULD GO TO.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT, TO APPROACH IT.

RIGHT.

THAT WAY IT'LL KIND OF BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN OFFER EACH GROUP AS A, HEY, THIS IS ONE WAY WE CAN SUPPORT YOU.

WE CAN SUPPORT YOU UP TO $150 FOR AN EVENT THAT YOUR GROUP THROWS OR PARTICIPATES IN OR SOMETHING.

SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD WAY TO KIND OF GET A, A TEMPERATURE GAUGE.

'CAUSE AGAIN, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SPEND ALL 690.

YEAH.

BUT I THINK WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS, AND THEN SAY, HEY, LOOK, IF WE WERE TO DO THIS WITH EVERY GROUP, WE COULD KIND OF GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE COULD OFFER AND MAKE THAT KNOWN TO THE GROUP AHEAD OF TIME AS THEY, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING THROUGH.

YEAH, SURE.

I MEAN, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK ALSO ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH FLUX BETWEEN COUNCIL, UH, NOT THE COUNCIL, BUT LIKE THE WAY COUNCIL'S CHANGING THE RULES ON HOW PEOPLE COME INTO COMMISSIONS, OUR COMMISSION, IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORKING

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BARE BONES, YOU COULD SAY.

I MEAN, AT LEAST RIGHT NOW, UH, WE COULD SAY, HEY, LET'S JUST MAKE SENIORS GROUP OUR FOCUS.

SINCE IT'S WORKING, IT'S PROGRESSING AND YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS.

AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRIORITY TOO.

YEAH.

AND THAT WAY THE BULK OF THE SUPPORT FROM WHAT WE HAVE LEFT AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WILL GO TO SENIORS GROUP.

THAT WAY WE HAVE ONE PROJECT THAT'S GOING GOOD, AND THEN AS YOU KNOW, THAT MATURES BEGIN, START DIVERTING OUR FUNDS INTO THE OTHER ONES AS THEY KIND OF COME UP AS WELL.

BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SMALL BUSINESS GROUP, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING THERE.

I'M SUPPOSED TO, UH, I'M GONNA GET WITH, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPETA AND GET THAT STARTED.

UH, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE ZERO REQUESTS.

WE CAN ANTICIPATE THAT THEY, THEY WILL HAVE SOME, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, ZERO.

BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW IS SENIORS DO NEED IT.

SO WE DON'T EVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE MAY NOT EVEN NEED THREE X RIGHT.

OF THAT.

SO, ANYWAYS, UH, THAT BEING SAID, I GUESS WE CAN MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS.

UH, 7.1 DISCUSSION, UH, IMPOSSIBLE ACTION MEETING MANAGE FROM JUNE 16.

AND I BELIEVE I ALSO NEED TO SIGN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

THIS, SO YES, THIS IS THE ONE FROM JUNE.

OH, RIGHT.

I DON'T NEED TO SIGN THE PREVIOUS ONE 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, WHERE DO I SIGN AGAIN? JUST ON THAT IS FINE.

LIKE RIGHT HERE? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NEED TO VOTE.

, UH, ANYBODY HAS ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR 7.1? OH, YOU AND I WERE BOTH HERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT.

DIDN'T THINK MM-HMM .

I DO.

OKAY.

WELL, UM, I VOTE TO, WELL, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW.

CAN I VOTE? YOU MAKE A MOTION TO I MAKE A MOTION? NO.

CAN I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? I SECOND.

I SECOND.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

MOTION PASSES.

THREE.

OH.

ALL RIGHT.

ITEM NUMBER 7.2, DISCUSSION ON NEURODIVERSITY PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.

ABBY, CAN YOU BRING UP THE, THE DRAFT , TAKE IT AWAY.

WHAT AM I, WHAT AM I TAKING AWAY? THE BRIEF, THE NEURODIVERSITY PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.

YOU HAD COME UP WITH THE, LIKE A DOCUMENT FOR THAT, RIGHT? OH, YEAH.

I HAD COME UP WITH THE DOCUMENT BASICALLY ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITIES WERE DOING, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS, I WAS TASKED WITH COMING UP WITH, UH, THAT LIST.

AND SO, DO YOU WANNA TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES? TALK ABOUT THAT? IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE IN THE, IS IT ? IT'S LIKE SHOWING LIKE, IT'S LIKE A, LIKE IT'S NOT THERE.

I, I, I SAW IT YESTERDAY.

YEAH, YEAH.

NO, I, I SEE IT IN THE, UH, I SEE IT IN THE GOOGLE DRIVE, BUT IT LOOKS INVISIBLE.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE SAME THING? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

I, I SEE NEURODIVERGENCE BRIEF CITY PROGRAMS FOR NEURODIVERGENCE COMMITTEE.

YEAH, I'VE GOT IT.

OH, I'M NOT ONLINE.

.

SOMEBODY PULLED MY PLUG ALL.

HERE WE ARE.

THERE WE GO.

GOOD MORNING.

OKAY.

SO, UH, THIS IS BASICALLY, UM, A SUMMARY OF WHAT SOME OF OUR, UH, NEIGHBORING AND, AND AND, UH, BROTHER AND SISTER CITIES ARE, ARE DOING, UH, IN RELATION TO PROVIDING SPACES AND OPPORTUNITY, UM, FOR NEURODIVERGENT AND, AND THOSE, UH, CITIZENS WHO ARE ON THE SPECTRUM OF AUTISM.

RIGHT? SO, UM, MANY OF THEM HAVE, UH, THESE SUPPORTING PROGRAMS. THE DATA SHOWS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY LIKE 20 YEARS AGO OR SO, UM, ONLY 101 IN 150 PERSONS WERE BEING IDENTIFIED AS BEING ON THE SPECTRUM OF AUTISM OR, OR NEURODIVERGENT.

AND NOW IT'S MUCH LESS, RIGHT? BECAUSE WHAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS, IS WE'VE IDENTIFIED NEW WAYS TO, UH, PERFORM TESTS.

AND THE SPECTRUM

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HAS ACTUALLY GOTTEN LARGER BECAUSE OF THESE NEW WAYS.

SO MORE PEOPLE ARE BEING PROPERLY DIAGNOSED.

AND SO WITH THAT, THERE'S THIS NEED, UM, FOR CITIES TO PROVIDE FACILITIES, SPACES AND OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO FALL.

UM, WITHIN THAT, THOSE, AND SO, UM, I STARTED WITH ROUND ROCK, JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

IT'S A, I I WOULD SAY ROUND ROCK'S A PRETTY LARGE CITY.

AND CAN, CAN YOU SCROLL? OKAY, THERE YOU GO.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS ISN'T SCROLLING.

UM, AND SO, UM, WHAT ROUND ROCK HAS IS THEY'VE GOT COOKING PROGRAMS, THEY'VE GOT SUMMER PROGRAMS. OBVIOUSLY THE SUMMER JUST ENDED.

UM, THEY'VE GOT, UH, SPACES FOR PERSONS WHO, UM, NEED QUIET TIME.

SOME OF THE MOVIE THEATERS, UM, HAVE CERTAIN FILMS, SHOWINGS, RIGHT? THAT, UH, LOW LIGHT, LOW SOUND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, UM, FLU REVEAL'S PRETTY MUCH GOT SOME OF THE SAME.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS LITTLE REPORT IS TO IDENTIFY WHAT THEY'VE GOT AND HOW WE CAN START TO ADAPT AS WE GROW AS A CITY.

MM-HMM .

UM, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN EVERY DOTTED LINE AND TRYING TO DUPLICATE WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

IT'S, WHAT DO WE HAVE GOING ON ALREADY? A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING, ESPECIALLY WITH PARKS AND REC, ARE ALREADY ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE, UM, NEEDS.

UM, WE WANT TO DISCOVER NEW WAYS AS, AS THE CITY GROWS TO HELP INCORPORATE THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES, ACTIONS, AND, AND NEEDS AND NEW BUILDING.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

UM, EVERYONE'S KIND OF DOING THE SAME THING.

OBVIOUSLY AUSTIN'S GOT A LARGER BUDGET, THEIR LARGER CITY WITH MORE FUNDING, SO THEY'VE GOT A LOT MORE SPACES.

THERE ARE A LOT OF PUBLIC SPACES OR, UH, PRIVATE COMPANIES, UH, THEATER GROUPS AND THINGS DOING SIMILAR WORK.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING A, A DISCOUNT OR, OR IF IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE ON GOODWILL.

BUT WE ARE HERE IN HUDDLE A CERTIFIED AUTISM CITY, RIGHT? SO LIKE, UM, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE OF THE, THE EXACT WORD THAT THEY USE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHECKING BOXES ALREADY MM-HMM.

WHICH IS NICE.

UM, EXCUSE ME.

I DUNNO WHY THIS JUST LOADED.

IT'S LIKE, AND SO, UM, I'VE GOTTEN HERE, IT SAYS, IN TEXAS AND ACROSS THE NATION, THE NEED FROM MUNICIPAL SERVICES, NEURODIVERGENT AUTISTIC RESIDENTS IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE.

AND SO THOSE ON THE AUTISM, AUTISM SPECTRUM DISORDER, UM, IT'S GONE UP TO ONE IN 31 FROM ONE IN 50.

SO, AND THAT'S, THESE ARE OF COURSE FOLKS WHO HAVE JUST BEEN TESTED, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

SO I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT I WAS NEURODIVERGENT UNTIL I WAS 40 YEARS OLD, YOU KNOW, SO ACTUALLY, BUT IT'S BEEN SOME YEARS.

UM, I SAY HERE THAT AUTISM KNOWS NO COLOR LINE SOCIO, UH, ECONOMIC STATUS, NOR DOES IT MAKE ETHNIC ETHNICITY CONSIDERATION THAT OCCURS ACROSS ALL RACE AND BACKGROUNDS.

AND I, I WASN'T ABLE TO FIND OUT WHY, BUT IT'S MORE DIAGNOSED IN BOYS THAN IT IS IN, IN GIRLS.

UH, SO I'VE GOT HERE THE LOCAL IMPACT, UH, THE CITY OF FEDERAL POPULATION WHERE I GOT 45, BUT WE'RE WAY BIGGER THAN THAT NOW.

WE'RE CLOSER TO 50, RIGHT.

WE JUST TOOK A CENSUS THIS LAST YEAR, SO YEAH.

AND IT WAS 49.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE EVEN, WE THINK WE CRACKED 50, BUT NOW, RIGHT.

SO, UM, EIGHT TO 9,000, PROBABLY 10 TO 11,000 ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 18.

AND SO WITH THE PREVALENCE OF, UH, BY CDC WAS SAYING THAT ONE IN 31, UM, PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 ARE ON THE AUTISM SPECTRUM OR NEURODIVERGENT, UH, THERE'S THIS INCREASING NEED TO PROVIDE THESE FACILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL CAN AGREE THAT IS, IT'S IMPORTANT.

I KNOW THAT THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL AGREES THAT IT'S IMPORTANT AND OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT ON PAPER SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE NUMBERS, WHICH IS JUST BASICALLY WHAT THIS IS, THE IDEA IS THAT WE CROSS POLLINATE.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT WE, WE SAY WE'RE DOING THIS, HOW CAN THIS HELP THESE TYPES OF GROUPS, PEOPLE WHO ARE OFTEN LEFT IN THE WIN AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE NEED, AND NOW IT'S JUST ABOUT FOLLOWING UP AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, AS BEST WE CAN AS A COMMISSION, THAT WE KEEP THE DECISION

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MAKERS INFORMED.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WITH PARKS AND REC, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH JEFF WHITE, HE'S GREAT.

AND THEY'RE TACKLING A LOT OF THESE NEEDS NOW.

UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE PARKS BUDGET, THAT'S, I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY TAKING SHAPE.

SO I ACTUALLY JUST GOT, JUST TO ADD, I'VE GOT AN UPDATE FROM JEFF TODAY THAT, UM, HOW LAKE PARK IS ALMOST FINISHED AND IT'S GOT THE MOST SENSORY FRIENDLY EQUIPMENT OUT OF ALL OF OUR PARKS.

YEAH, YEAH.

LITTLE SENSORY TRAIL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE HAVE A DATE WHEN THAT'S, IT'S, I I KNOW IT'S CLOSE.

I WAS LOOKING AT THEM.

LET'S SAY YOU SAID ABOUT A MONTH OR SO, I GUESS YOU, I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY ACTUALLY DOING A LOT THAT WE JUST DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE HERE.

RIGHT.

BECAUSE RIGHT.

HAVE YOU BEEN RESPONDING WITH, UH, JEFF? I WAS AT THEIR, I WAS AT THE PARKS AND REC BOARD MEETING LAST WEEK MM-HMM .

AND WE SPOKE WITH JEFF, BASICALLY, UM, UNDER THE GUISE OF SENIOR CITIZENS.

BUT, UM, HE DID SEND ME A, AN EMAIL BASICALLY SAYING WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY DOING.

YEAH.

AND, AND, UH, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PARK BOND AND WITH HOW YOU FORWARDED ME THAT EMAIL, RIGHT? YEAH.

FROM JEFF.

SO, SO THEY, THEY OPENED SENSORY TRAIL.

YEAH.

RITZ PARK, THE CERTIFIED AUTISM CENTER.

THAT'S THE CERTIFICATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH.

THAT'S THE RIGHT, YEAH.

UM, LIKE NEW PLAYGROUND ON HU A LAKE WITH AUTISM FRIENDLY AMENITIES.

AND THEN LAST YEAR REPURPOSED THE STORAGE AREA INTO A SENSORY FREE ZONE.

I'D BE INTER, I, I'D RESPOND BACK TO HIM, UM, BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING, 'CAUSE AGAIN, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, UM, BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHERE THAT STORAGE AREA IS AND ALSO WHAT MAKES IT A SENSORY FREE ZONE.

UM, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINT, UH, COMMISSIONER FURY, I THINK THESE TYPE OF THINGS PROBABLY NEED TO BE SHARED IN A WAY, LIKE THE PUBLIC HOUSE.

YEAH.

BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE WERE AT THE, THE, UM, THAT COMMISSION THAT WASN'T ZONING, DEFINING AND ZONING CLIENT AND ZONING, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING? RIGHT.

IT'S LIKE, THIS STUFF IS GOING BACK TO 2023.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, SO IT'S LIKE, SOMETIMES I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO BE ONE OF THOSE, WE PUT A NAME ON IT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE, UH, FRITZ PARK AND THE HUDDLE LAKE PARK, UH, PLAYGROUND AS LIKE NEW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA SEE THAT AS, OH, AND IT'S AUTISM FRI YEAH.

RIGHT.

WELL, AND BECAUSE ALL OF THESE PARKS ARE ON THE PARK, IF YOU GO TO THE PARKS AND REC RIGHT.

IT'S LIKE THEY LIST YEAH.

WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND, AND, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WHEN THEY'RE ESTIMATED TO BE COMPLETE.

AND YEAH.

IF NOT FOR THIS, I WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN THOUGHT THAT.

I DON'T WANT, LOOK, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE EVENTS ALSO MAYBE DUPLICATED THIS YEAR, LIKE THE SENSORY, UH, FRIENDLY TIME AT HALLOWEEN.

YEAH.

WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE BEGAN IN 2023.

AND I MEAN, I, I'M SURE THE PAUL COULD LOVE TO DO THAT IF IT'S HAPPENING.

AGAIN.

I WAS AT THE TREE LIGHT AND I DIDN'T KNOW.

SO IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE COOL TO KIND OF PUT OUT THERE.

YEAH.

UM, ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE NOW KNOWING YEAH.

CAN, WE CAN KIND OF SHARE THAT.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

UM, I CAN COMMIT, I CAN COMMIT MY TEAM TO, TO SHARING MORE OF THAT.

WE, I, I WAS ACTUALLY JUST TALKING TO JEFF TODAY ABOUT REALLY HIGHLIGHTING THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HU TO LAKE PARK OPENING, BUT YEAH, I THINK IT'S WORTH DOING.

THESE ARE ALL THE OPTIONS THAT, THAT YOU PROVIDE.

SO I CAN PUT THAT ON MY LIST.

THANK YOU.

COOL.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS COMMISSIONER FURY FOR DOING THIS WORK.

I MEAN, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NICE TO HAVE, UH, WELL, DON'T WORRY, BUT LIKE A ADHD IS A SUPERPOWER.

I CAN'T STOP TYPING .

AND IT ALWAYS HELPS SOMEONE KIND OF JUMPING INTO THE RABBIT HOLE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE ELSE.

SO THAT'S AWESOME.

THE, UH, THING ABOUT THIS NEURODIVERSITY PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN, HERE'S MY QUESTION.

WHAT IS THE OUTCOME WE'RE LOOKING FOR AS A D THERE'S 10 THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IN 10 DIFFERENT WAYS.

THE TALKING FROM A COMMISSION POINT OF VIEW.

WHAT ARE WE THINK, WHAT DO WE WANNA DO? BECAUSE THERE'S ONE THING THAT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER NEY BROUGHT UP A FEW MONTHS AGO, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IS JUST SHINE A SPOTLIGHT.

EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING

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IN THIS REALM IN THE CITY, WHICH I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA.

SO THE QUESTION IS ABOUT OUTCOME.

WHAT, IN YOUR OPINION, DO YOU THINK WE AS A COMMISSION NEED TO DO? OR WHAT WOULD YOU THINK THAT THE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN WOULD BE A SUCCESS? OR DOES IT EVEN NEED TO BE A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN? CAN IT BE SOMETHING ELSE? SO I'M JUST LOOKING FOR YOUR THOUGHTS.

I MEAN, I THINK THE, BECAUSE ABBY, YOU RUN THE SOCIAL MEDIA, RIGHT? SO LIKE, JUST THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE, DID YOU KNOW, COMPONENT OF IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST GONNA BE LIKE, HEY, FRITZ PARK IS GONNA BE OPENING ON THIS DATE WITH THE NEW CENTURY TRAIL.

DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS MM-HMM .

ONE OF THE EFFORTS BEING PUT TOGETHER FOR NEURODIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, TO HELP SUPPORT THE AUTISM, UH, CERTIFICATION.

AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE THERE'S THINGS I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO, WE CAN ADD ONTO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ADDING THAT LAYER OF THIS IS ALSO COME UP.

YOU'RE SAME WITH THE CROSSPOLLINATION, RIGHT? LIKE, WE'RE DOING A GREAT THING HERE, BUT IT'S ALSO SERVING THIS COMMUNITY OF, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, AND THEN AGAIN, JUST THINKING ABOUT TEMPLATES, LIKE MM-HMM .

THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

GIVE US A TEMPLATE WHEN WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA COME UP THAT THE CITY MIGHT BE WORKING ON THAT ALSO SATISFIES ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ISSUE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE LIKE A, JUST A, A SOLELY NEURODIVERGENT CAMPAIGN AS MUCH AS EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY'S ACTIVELY DOING RIGHT NOW, GO BRING IT TO THE FRONT.

LIKE THIS IS PART OF THIS.

RIGHT.

UM, AND I THINK THAT WHAT THAT WILL PROBABLY DO IS GET A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING MM-HMM .

ABOUT LIKE, OH, WELL I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING.

WHAT ELSE ARE WE DOING? AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET, KIND OF LIKE IN THAT MEETING, YOU HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF STEPPING FORWARD AND COMING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT IN THAT SPACE.

MM-HMM.

SO I THINK THAT IF, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A WAY, ABBY, WHERE WE CAN, UM, KIND OF ENSURE OR ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE KIND OF MAKE THAT PART OF ANY TYPE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS OR, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY WANT TO WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TOO, IS LIKE MM-HMM .

THE EFFORTS THAT THEY'RE TAKING AND THE DIFFERENT, UH, REASONS MM-HMM .

WHILE THEY'RE TAKING THEM.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THAT WE'RE UPDATING A PARK, BUT WHEN WE UPDATE THIS PARK, WE ARE GONNA BE DOING THIS FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND WE'RE DOING THIS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

RIGHT.

SO, YEAH.

I THINK IT'S SOME, I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING FOR ME TO KEEP IN MIND THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES TO HIGHLIGHT IT, JUST, JUST CAPITALIZING ON THOSE.

UM, AND I'LL, I'LL SHARE THE SAME THING WITH JEFF.

HE ESSENTIALLY RUNS THEIR WORKS PAGE, BUT TO DO THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH.

AND THEN USING THINGS LIKE, WHEN WAS THE NEURODIVERSITY AWARENESS MONTH? THAT WAS, MAY WE PASS THAT I PASSED? UM, BUT USING THINGS LIKE THAT YEAH.

AS OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO, YEAH.

'CAUSE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A PERFECT IDEA.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN PERFECT IF MADE IT BE LIKE, HEY, RIGHT.

NEURODIVERSITY AWARENESS MONTH AND HERE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT HUDDLES DO, DOES, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL BE DOING.

YEAH.

I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ME KEEPING IT AT THE TOP OF MIND.

AND I'LL SHARE WITH MY TEAM TOO.

'CAUSE WHEN IT FALLS OUTTA MY BRAIN, IT'S ALWAYS IN THERE.

SO, UM, YEAH.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING, RIGHT? SO BASICALLY NEURODIVERGENCE AWARENESS AND THAT KIND OF SPLITS INTO GENERAL, UH, THINGS THAT HATO DOES.

AND THEN SPECIFIC THING.

SO THE GENERAL THING IS LIKE MORE OF AN ONGOING THING, LIKE, HEY, DID YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS? AND THEN SPECIFIC THINGS LIKE, HEY, THIS IS OPENING HENCE FORWARD.

SO THE TRAFFIC IS, SO THAT'S ONE THING THAT IS LIKE MORE DIGITAL AWARENESS.

UM, SO ONE THING LIKE, I, I CAN, I CAN ADD TO IT, IS MAYBE WE COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT WE COULD DO IS GET EXPERTS ON THIS.

THEY CAN KIND OF COME PRESENT US, WE AS ACCOUNT, UH, WE AS A COMMISSION KIND OF DIGEST THAT.

AND THEN WE CAN TALK WITH PARKS, WE CAN TALK WITH ENGINEERING, WE CAN TALK WITH LIBRARY, UH, OR WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THOSE, UH, BOARDS AS WELL.

KIND OF DO LIKE A JOINT THING WHEN THAT SPECIFIC GUEST MEMBER COMES IN.

THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE COULD DO.

I'M JUST TRYING TO LIST OUT AS A COMMISSION WHAT WE COULD DO.

AND THEN WE'LL FORMALIZE THAT PLAN SO THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANNA FOCUS ON OUTCOME.

SO THAT EXPERT, UH, YOU KNOW, SUBJECT MATTER

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EXPERTS.

AND I KNOW, UM, MR. HOLLINSBURG WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW, LIKE AT THE ISD FOR EXAMPLE, YEAH.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON MM-HMM .

EXPERTS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT.

SO I THINK EVEN THAT PIECE IS, YOU KNOW, CAN WE ASSIST IN SHINING A LIGHT, YOU KNOW, ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

RIGHT.

UM, GRANTED NOT EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY GOES TO, YOU KNOW, TO HUDDLE ISD, BUT I THINK KNOWING THAT, LIKE IN AN EDUCATION SPACE, BECAUSE MY KID GOES TO A DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND I'M HEARING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN HU, I MIGHT NOW BE MORE INCLINED TO ASK THAT SCHOOL DISTRICT MM-HMM .

WELL HUDDLE'S DOING THIS, SO WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING? RIGHT? LIKE, I THINK THAT MIGHT JUST BE ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL MM-HMM .

WE'RE JUST BRINGING EVERYBODY WHO'S PASSIONATE OUT OF THEIR SILO TO SAY LIKE, HEY, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HERE ARE COMMITTED TO THE SAME GOAL.

LET'S GET YOU GUYS IN A ROOM.

LET'S GET YOU TALKING.

SO MAYBE IT'S LIKE AN INVITE TO COME TO ONE OF OUR DEIB MEETINGS.

IT'S ON RECORD, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S RECORDED.

YEAH.

AND BEING ABLE TO SAY, HEY, LET'S HAVE A, THE, THE AGENDA ITEM IS THROUGH DIVERSITY, YOU KNOW, AND RIGHT.

YOU MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION THROUGH THE LAST MEETING.

RIGHT.

OF INVITING EXPERTS THAT COME TO OUR MEETINGS.

RIGHT.

GENERALLY SPEAKING.

YEAH.

BUT I GUESS THAT'S AN IDEA.

WE WANNA FIGURE OUT A PATH TO THAT IDEA AND THEN OWNERSHIP OF WHO DOES THAT.

SO, BUT FIRST WE NEED TO HAVE LISTS OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO.

UM, SO YEAH.

SO THAT'S ONE WAIT, REAL QUICK, BECAUSE, UM, SO COULD WE, COULD WE DEDICATE ONE OF OUR COMMISSION MEETINGS SPECIFICALLY TO THAT TOPIC AND THEN INVITE, 'CAUSE WITH THE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC NOTICE PRETTY MUCH SAY LIKE, HEY, THIS IS A SPACE, OR, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE THIS ROOM IS TOO SMALL, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN OPEN SPACE, BRING PEOPLE IN IN THE CHAMBER, TALK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT BECOMES THE AGENDA ITEM.

AND IT'S LITERALLY JUST THAT IN TALKING ABOUT IT, AND I DON'T KNOW IT, THAT PROBABLY DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO BE A DIB MEETING.

I, I GUESS WE CAN TALK WITH YEAH.

THE CITY AND SAY, HEY, THERE'S THIS GUEST SPEAKER YOU JUST COMING, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST COMING AND IT'S JUST A, UH, AN EVENT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE THIS MEETING.

RIGHT.

BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THIS MEETING.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT COULD ALSO BE JUST A INDEPENDENT THING BY ALL BY ITSELF.

YEAH.

THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE, AND GREAT TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY, IT'LL GIVE THEM POTENTIAL SPEAKERS AND EDUCATORS MORE FLEXIBILITY IN THEIR SCHEDULING AND SAYING WHEN THEY'RE AVAILABLE.

RIGHT.

SO, OKAY.

ANOTHER, UH, THING THAT I WAS THINKING THAT THE COMMISSION COULD DO IS, UM, UH, YOU MENTIONED LIKE, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE GO TO ANY OF THESE PARKS THAT THERE ARE THESE THINGS.

AND EVEN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE CERTIFICATION, COULD WE PETITION THE PARKS PEOPLE OR THE CITY COUNCIL, WHOEVER, TO JUST HAVE LIKE A PLAQUE MM-HMM .

AT RIGHT OUT FRONT.

LIKE, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, UH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE CERTIFICATION? WAS IT THE AUTISM? YEAH, IT'S, IT IS CERTIFIED AUTISM CENTER.

YEAH.

SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND THEN THAT WAY IT'S RIGHT UP AT THE FRONT.

ANYTIME SOMEONE WALKS INTO FRITZ PARK, THEY KNOW.

AND THEN THAT'S WHAT, 'CAUSE I WENT TO FRITZ PARK SATURDAY.

YEAH, YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL 'CAUSE IT'S CLOSED.

WELL, WELL, IT'S NOT OPEN.

WE GOT YOUR BILL .

I, I WENT TO IT.

I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS.

WE'LL PASS IT WHEN I THERE YOU, BUT I DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY, ANY SIGNS THAT SAID ACTUALLY, UH, THIS SIDEBAR, THE REASON I WENT IS 'CAUSE ON INSTAGRAM I SAW CITY OF HU HANDLE JUST SAY, HEY, WE WE'RE NOT GONNA TATTLE THIS HERE.

SO OH YEAH.

I'M GONNA TAKE YOUR WORD ON IT, .

BUT, UM, ANYWAYS, I, I DIDN'T SEE ANY, UH, ANY PLAQUE THERE OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS IS A SENSORY FRIENDLY OR THERE IS SENSORY FRIENDLY, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT THERE.

SO THAT TELLS ME THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PETITION.

LIKE, BECAUSE THAT IS A GAP THAT IS IDENTIFIED NOW.

AND THEN WE CAN PETITION TO FILL THAT GAP.

UH, AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE A PHYSICAL THING THAT THE COMMISSION COULD PURSUE.

JUST IDENTIFY PLACES WHERE THERE ARE, BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT MARKERS THERE.

IS THERE A WAY TO FIND OUT FROM PARKS, I KNOW THEY, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT RENEWING THAT CERTIFICATION.

IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE WHETHER IT'S LIKE A, A SYMBOL OR LIKE A LOGO? A LOGO OR SOMETHING THAT MAYBE COULD BE ADDED TO LIKE THE PARK SIGN

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OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT JUST KIND OF IDENTIFIES IT? YEAH, THAT IDENTIFIES LIKE, LIKE WHEN THEY GET TO THE PARK, THEY'RE LIKE, SEE THAT SIGN THAT THINK THAT THIS PARK HAS SEASON.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THAT CAN GO ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT JUST SAYS, HEY, ALL OF OUR PARKS THAT HAVE THIS SYMBOL.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT THAT MEANS.

YEAH.

I CAN TALK TO JEFF.

I'M NOT SURE.

UM, IMAGINE THEY HAVE A LOGO.

I BE, YEAH, I ACTUALLY, I GONNA CHECK.

WE DID.

I'M SURE.

WE'LL, ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S ABOUT THREE THINGS THAT I HAVE HERE.

ONE IS JUST GENERAL AWARENESS.

SECOND IS, UM, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.

AND THEN THE THIRD IS, UH, WHAT WE TALK ABOUT RIGHT NOW, JUST, UH, MARKERS TO DISPLAY.

UM, ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE CAN THINK ON.

THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE A EXHAUSTIVE LIST OR EVEN A LIST THAT WE COMPLETE TODAY.

THIS COULD BE AN ONGOING THING, BUT MY, MY PLAN IS LET'S KEEP BUILDING ON THIS AND THINKING ABOUT IT, LET'S SAY FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, AND THEN STARTING 2027, WE START LOOKING AT ACTION ITEMS THAT COME OUT OF THIS.

AND ONE POTENTIAL THING THAT COULD BE COMING OUT OF THIS IS A WORKING GROUP GIVEN, I MEAN, ASSUMING THAT WE ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, UH, GET THE OTHER TWO STANDING AS AT THAT, BY THAT POINT OF YOU FEEL CONFIDENT, UH, THAT WE COULD, UH, STAND UP ONE MORE.

UH, YEAH.

ONE MORE THING ON THIS IS THE, YOU BELONG IN HURO CAMPAIGN THAT WE'RE HAVING AS OUR KIND OF ONGOING THING.

ONE OF THE THINGS ON THAT IS WE WANNA GET KIND OF LIVE PULSE BY HAVING THESE LITTLE QUICK IN-PERSON SURVEYS THAT PEOPLE FILL OUT IN EXCHANGE FOR GOODS.

UM, OR I MEAN, THAT, THAT, THAT'S JUST LIKE THE FIRST 50.

YOU CAN STILL FILL, FILL THE SURVEYS OUT, RIGHT? BUT WE COULD HAVE OFF THE SMALL SURVEY, WE COULD HAVE LIKE A NEURODIVERGENT QUESTION IN THERE, OR QUESTION ABOUT NEURODIVERGENT.

SO WE KIND OF HAVE, UH, ONGOING THROUGH THE YEAR PULSE ON WHAT DOES IT, WHAT DOES THE CITY FEEL GENERALLY ABOUT THAT.

SO THAT WAS WHAT I WAS ALSO THINKING OF.

WE COULD HAVE SPECIFIC NEURODIVERGENCE RELATED QUESTION IN THAT SURVEY, UM, .

RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM YOU GUYS? NO, THEY DO HAVE A, UM, THERE ACTUALLY IS A, UH, IT'S KIND OF THEIR LOGO.

YEAH.

SO, WELL, YEAH.

MAYBE WE CAN PETITION JEFF AND SEE IF WE CAN GET, PROBABLY THE ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE LIKE, IF YOU LOST THE CERTIFICATION, WHAT WILL HAPPEN? MM.

I'M THINKING THEY JUST ORDERED ALL THE SIGN YEAH.

AND INSTALLED THEM.

UM, BUT YOU CAN DO, LIKE, YOU CAN DO YEAH.

THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S WAYS' SIGNAGE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND I'VE SEEN, I'VE SEEN A CAN OF SPRAY PAINT, SPRAY PAINTED TEMPLATE, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

ON, ON THE SIDEWALK, RIGHT? YEAH.

BUT I WAS GONNA SAY, AND OF COURSE JEFF WILL HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO MAKE THE CALL AS FAR AS BUDGET AND ALL THAT.

BUT, UM, I WAS GONNA SAY, Y'ALL, THE DIB COMMISSION SHOULD TAKE YOUR CREDIT FOR IT.

IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA PETITION AND BE THE ONES TO GET THIS TOGETHER AND, AND HAVE SIGNAGE, IT SHOULD SAY, I THINK IT SHOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HAVE THE LOGO, MAYBE SAY, THIS IS A SENSORY FRIENDLY, WE HAVE THESE OPTIONS HERE.

UH, I WOULD SAY BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE DAY, I'D BE, YEAH, THAT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

I WOULD SAY CHECK ABBY EXTRA CHRISTMAS COFFEE .

I MEAN, NOT BAD.

AND ALSO JUST, SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF AWARENESS TO BE HAD ABOUT THIS COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT YOU GUYS ARE HERE AND YOU'RE WORKING ON THIS STUFF, I THINK IS AN IMPORTANT THING FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW.

AND SO THEY KNOW TO COME TO YOU TOO, IF THEY HAVE ISSUES, RIGHT? UH, YEAH.

THAT'S, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THAT.

AND I, I'M SURE THAT LIKE A, A POINT LIKE THIS IS, IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH PARTS, IS GONNA GO THROUGH ENGINEERING, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA REVIEW IT ON ALL THAT.

SO, UM, I MEAN, CERTAINLY I THINK OUR JOB IS TO JUST, AT THE VERY LEAST, BRING IT UP TO THEM.

YEAH.

HEY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO.

YEAH.

UM, THAT WOULD BE CHECKING MY BOOKS.

JEFF MAKES MAGIC HAPPEN, SO HE SHOULD HEY.

SWEET.

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ALL RIGHT.

I JUST WANNA MOVE ON TO 7.3.

YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, 7.3, DISCUSS, UH, AND POSSIBLE ACTION, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON UPDATED STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, FY 2027 BUDGET.

ALL RIGHT.

ABBY, COULD YOU BRING UP, UM, I WANNA SAY IT'S VERSION TWO, WHATEVER STAN HAS MM-HMM .

THE STRATEGIC, THE UPDATED STRATEGIC.

YEAH.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S A WORD DOCUMENT, UH, IT'S EXECUTION OF THE BUDGET OR OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN THERE'S THE ACTUAL BUDGET.

SO WHAT I WANNA DO IS, UH, GO DO, BRIEFLY GO OVER WHAT STAN HAS FOR HIS, UH, EXECUTION, AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET, AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT MY CONDENSED STRATEGIC PLAN.

OKAY.

TRY TO DO IT QUICKLY.

IS LEMME JUST SHARE SO I CAN THIS ONE? NO, NO, THAT'S ALL.

THERE'S TWO OF THESE.

OH, YEAH.

WELL, YEAH.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE TWO, NOT THIS ONE.

NO.

OR IT BE THOUGH, THE UPDATES MADE FOLLOWING THE JUNE MEETING.

IF YOU SCROLL ALL THE WAY DOWN.

NO.

SO NOT THIS ONE.

I BELIEVE SO.

YEAH, IF YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN, IT WILL BE RIGHT THERE.

OKAY.

THAT'S IT.

SO, UH, WELL, THAT'S THE ONE THAT, BUT WE WANNA KIND OF LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN FIRST.

IF THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT, UH, THERE'S A WORD DOCUMENT THAT STAN HAS.

YES.

UH, AND IT IS, UH, DE YES.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE ONE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ZAPETA OVER THE WEEKEND, AND SHE HAD, YOU KNOW, SHE KINDA ADDED SOME OF HER COMMENTS IN HERE, BUT HAVE YOU GUYS SEEN THIS YET? OR IS THIS THE FIRST TIME? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN JUST GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM.

WE CAN THINK ABOUT, UH, WHETHER WE WANNA KEEP IT, CHANGE IT, OR, UH, DOUBLE DOWN.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOCUS AREA ONE, ESTABLISH AN ONGOING SUSTAINABLE STRUCTURE FOR THE CONTINUED DEI EVERYWHERE.

SO, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT IS SUPER IMPORTANT BECAUSE WHAT THAT DOES, IT, IT HEDGES AGAINST CHANGES.

SO ANYTIME SOMEONE COMES IN, COMES OUT OR GOES OUT, THERE'S A LOT OF SHIFTING.

IT MINIMIZES, WE HAVE A PROCESS.

IF WE, YOU HAVE A PLAN, IT MINIMIZES THIS.

SO DEFINITELY THIS IS, THIS SHOULD BE ONE OF FOCUS ITEMS TO KEEP THIS SUSTAINABLE, RIGHT? SO FOR ONE POINT, WE WANNA ESTABLISH A-D-E-I-V EXECUTION PLAN WITH METRICS.

THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GONNA BE.

UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

UH, UH, DO YOU MIND ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE? MM-HMM .

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S MUCH BETTER.

SO THAT'S THAT.

AND WHAT STAN PLANS ON DOING IS HE WANTS TO INTERVIEW EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER ABOUT 20 MINUTES, AND THEN COLLECT ALL THAT DA DATA AND THEN BUILD HIS CONSULTANCY AROUND THAT TO US, BASICALLY.

OR AT LEAST TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.

THERE'S 1.1, 1.2, ESTABLISHING TRAINING, AT LEAST THREE FOCUSED WORKING GROUPS.

SO WE ARE DEFINITELY KEEPING THAT ON.

AND, UH, WE HAVE THE SENIOR CITIZENS GROUP, WHICH IS GONNA KIND OF BE THE, THE MODEL THAT, THAT THE OTHER TWO MAP THEMSELVES AROUND.

AND NIKKI'S DOING, YOU KNOW, THE VETERANS GROUP AND HOPEFULLY NEXT, NEXT MEETING, UH, SHE'LL GIVE US AN UPDATE AND I'LL REACH OUT TO HER BETWEEN THAT AND, UH, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT SHE NEEDS FROM US AND, UH, HOW, HOW, HOW ELSE WE CAN HELP.

UH, AND THEN I WILL BE RELAUNCHING THE SMALL BUSINESS GROUP

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IN ABOUT A COUPLE MONTHS.

I WANT TO GET THROUGH THE BUDGET STUFF SO THAT I'M NOT SPLIT AND, YOU KNOW, STRETCHED TOO THIN.

AND SO TARGETING AROUND, UH, MAYBE END OF OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER IS WHEN I START REGROUPING, TALK TO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBERS OF BETA.

AND WE COME UP WITH A PLAN ON HOW TO COALESCE, UH, THE, THE SMALL BUSINESS BUSINESS GROUP.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, 1.3, HAVE AT LEAST 1D EIB COMMISSION MEMBER ATTEND EACH COUNCIL MEETING.

I THINK THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.

UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE WANNA BE PRESENT, UH, FOR EVERY, UH, EVERY MEETING FOR WHATEVER REASON.

IF WE ARE NOT ABLE TO BE PRESENT PHYSICALLY, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING IS LIVESTREAM.

WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WATCHING IT.

AND WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE CAN'T DO THAT EITHER.

EVERYTHING IS RECORDED.

WE CAN JUST DOWNLOAD THE TRANSCRIPT, RUN IT THROUGH CHAT, GPT, FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE STUFF THAT IS, WHAT IS STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE RELAYED TO THE COMMISSION.

MOST OF IT, I ASSUME IS NOT GONNA BE GONNA BE OF IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMISSION AT LEAST.

BUT, UH, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT COMES UP, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO CATCH IT AND DISCUSS ABOUT.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP THAT 1.4, UH, DIE FORUM WITH THE KEY STAFF, CITY STAFF LEADERS AND CITY COUNCIL INTERFACE MEET YEARLY, I THINK 1.4, 1.5.

AND THEN I, I BELIEVE IT IS 1.9, WHICH IS BASICALLY JUST MEETING WITH CITY STAFF, UH, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PRO PROVIDING A REPORT I THINK WE SHOULD DO.

AND WE, WE, WE DO THAT AT LEAST SINCE THE LAST YEAR, MEET YEARLY.

I'M GONNA BE TALKING ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, SO THAT TAKES CARE OF THIS.

BUT I THINK GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE DO WANNA KEEP THAT ON.

WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR BUDGETS ARE GOOD, IT'S TRANSPARENT, THEY KNOW WHERE WE'RE SPENDING STUFF.

UM, AND WE BRING, YOU KNOW, PUT OUT ALL OUR GRIEVANCES OR WHATEVER, UH, YOU KNOW, MATTERS THAT ARE WORTH CITY COUNCIL'S EYEBALLS ON.

WE WANNA PUT THEM IN FRONT OF THAT.

OH, 1.6 MEGA, ALL THE WORKING SESSION, RIGHT? UH, CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S WHAT, SO 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 HENRY CLUB TOGETHER, ONE SINGLE LINE ITEM IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, TAKEN CARE OF 1.8, CONSIDER AND RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL FOCUS WORKING GROUPS.

WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS ON A LOWER PRIORITY, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE IT IN.

AND WHAT THAT, TO ME, AT LEAST IN THE NEXT YEAR MEANS IS THE NEURODIVERGENCE AND OR THE YOUTH GROUP.

THAT'S THE TWO POSSIBLE THING.

BUT THEN THAT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE SUCCESS OF THE ONES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE RIGHT NOW.

1.9 ANNUAL REPORT FROM DIA COMMISSION AFTER REVIEWING PROGRESS OF INITIAL THREE WORKING GROUPS.

SO WE WANNA PUSH THIS BECAUSE WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS BEING LOOKED AT, PROGRESS IS BEING TRACKED, AND WE'RE NOT JUST DOING SOMETHING.

AND THEN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ITS OWN THING.

AND NEVER TO BE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, HERE ON FORWARD.

WE DO WANNA BE ABLE TO TOUCH BASE THE, WITH THE COMMISSION, POTENTIALLY WITH THE COUNCIL, AND JUST GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S NEEDED, WHAT CAN WE DO BETTER, AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

UH, ON A YEARLY BASIS WOULD BE GREAT.

BUT FOR, BECAUSE WE JUST STARTED THE SENIORS GROUP.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.

I THINK WE CAN PUSH THIS TO NEXT YEAR, BUT STILL HAVE IT ON.

UH, AND THIS COULD ALSO BE PART OF THE 1.4, 1.5, 1.6 THING, UH, JUST AN ANNUAL REPORT, GENERALLY SPEAKING.

AND THEN ONE POINT 10, PROPOSE AN AMBASSADOR PROGRAM AS A WAY TO KEEP FORMER COMMISSION MEMBERS AND OTHER INTERESTED CITIZEN ENGAGED.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE LIKE, UH, UH, EX COMMISSIONER BELL OR EX COMMISSIONER LEWIS, I THINK THEY WOULD BE IN A MUCH BETTER POSITION TO BE KIND OF HANDS OFF, BUT STILL BE ENGAGED IN THE DEIB COMMISSION ROLE.

SO WE CAN HAVE THAT ON, WE CAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SUGGEST THE AMBASSADOR PROGRAM.

IT, UH, WE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, GONNA HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND THINK ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS, WHAT THE SCOPE IS AND ALL THAT.

BUT I THINK JUST THE GENERAL CONCEPT IS GOOD.

SO THAT KIND OF COVERS FOCUS AREA ONE.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE THINKING? THINK IT'S SOLID.

OKAY.

UH, MOVING

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ON TO FOCUS AREA TWO, A SHORTFALL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IN DIB WORK.

ALL RIGHT.

2.1, 2.2, 2.3.

SO 2.1 OR 2.2.

STAN'S GONNA TAKE THE LEAD ON THAT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY HOLD LISTENING POSTS WITH THE, UH, WITH THE ESTABLISHED GROUPS.

UM, IF WE HAVE STAN ON, AND IF WE HAVE THE BUDGET TO KEEP STAN ON FOR THE NEXT YEAR, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HE CAN DEFINITELY CONTRIBUTE, UH, IN.

WHAT HE CAN DO IS HE CAN HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW TO TALK TO THE WORKING GROUPS, GET THE BEST INFORMATION OUT OF THAT INTERACTION, AND HELP US THINK THROUGH HOW WE WANT TO FACILITATE BETTER THESE WORKING GROUPS.

AND THE SAME WITH, UH, 2.2, WHAT STAN CAN DO IS HE CAN TAKE ALL THE ANALYSIS OF THE SURVEY, THE SURVEY THAT WE PLAN ON HAVING EVERY EVENT, THE MINI SURVEYS, AS WELL AS THE GENERAL SURVEYS.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, THE REGULAR CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE HAVE WITH THE WORKING GROUP, I THINK ALL THE FEEDBACK, ESSENTIALLY, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO STAN AND HE CAN USE THAT FEEDBACK TO FURTHER DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, BETTER WAYS OF, UH, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION.

2.3 HAVE WRITTEN AND COMMITTED DIB COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.

UM, THIS IS IMPORTANT, BUT AS FAR AS PRIORITY, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR UP AND PRIORITY IT NEEDS TO BE.

IT CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE THERE.

I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN WORK WITH YOU ON, ABBY.

YEAH.

AND YOU CAN KIND OF THINK OF WHAT THE COMMUNICATION ALL, IN MY MIND, COMMUNICATIONS PLAN ALSO WOULD BE, UH, FIGURING OUT HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITHIN THE GROUP.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS, HOW WE COMMUNICATE EVENTS AND HOW WE COMMUNICATE, UM, WITH LET'S SAY EXPERTS, OR IF WE ARE GOING TO DO PROCLAMATIONS, HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE? I THINK IF WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S JUST NOT LIKE, HEY, GO DO YOUR THING.

ALMOST ANS OP YEAH.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK.

BUT IT WOULD BE LIKE A ONE TIME THING, RIGHT? OR ONE TIME UPFRONT WORK, AND THEN THAT JUST GETS TWEAKED AS NEED NEEDS ARISE.

RIGHT? SO AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL A FOCUS AREA TOO.

THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS? QUESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, FOCUS AREA THREE, ASSURED, DIB ENGAGEMENT, ALL INTERNAL CITY PRACTICES.

UM, 3.1, HAVE CITY MANAGER REPORT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

DIB WISE, YES.

3.2.

CONTINUE HAVING CITY FUNCTIONAL AREAS ATTEND DIB COMMISSION MEETINGS.

YES.

SO THE, I I THINK THE IDEA HERE IS OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE SHOULD BE TOUCHING BASE WITH DIFFERENT CITY GROUPS, UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS.

AND THEN JUST IN MY MIND, THE VISION IS JUST, IT'S, IT'S A ONE HOUR MEETING THAT'S LIKE, HEY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO AS A COMMISSION TO HELP YOU? UM, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO HAVE, YOU NEED MORE RESOURCES TO DELEGATE A DIB RELATED TASK, OR THEY DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO THINK THROUGH A POLICY, LET'S SAY.

THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO.

AND THEN WE CAN ALSO GET THE CITY MANAGER TO REPORT.

JUST WE CAN IDENTIFY THINGS LIKE, HEY, WHAT, UH, ARE WE DOING RIGHT NOW? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? AND WHAT ARE WE ROLLING OUT? TH THOSE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN HAVE, WE CAN HAVE A LIST OF DEMANDS, UH, FROM THE CITY MANAGER AND SAY, HEY, THE, THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE COULD JUST REPLY.

AND TH THAT COULD BE IN MY MIND, JUST AN EMAIL AT THE VERY LEAST.

AND THAT STARTS OFF AS AN EMAIL, AS THE COMMISSION MATURES, IT BECOMES A YEARLY MEETING, UM, WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

THE FOCUS AREA, THREE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS.

MY, MY ONLY, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT WITH OUR COMMISSION,

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I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE ASKING WHAT'S BEING DONE AROUND DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND BELONGING, I FEEL LIKE THE SOURCE OF THAT QUESTION DOESN'T REALLY COME FROM THE CITY.

I FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC ANSWERS, RIGHT? LIKE, IT'S HARD TO, IT, IT'S HARD TO SEE YOUR OWN SHORTCOMINGS AS A CITY RIGHT? AROUND THIS.

SO IF I'M GOING TO THE CITY MANAGER, LIKE, WHAT DO YOU NEED? OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING AROUND DEIB? RIGHT? THEY MAY FEEL LIKE, OH, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING GREAT, SO THERE'S NOTHING WE NEED FROM YOU GUYS.

WE GOT IT.

WE ASK THE PUBLIC MM-HMM .

THEY'RE LIKE, THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO I, I'M ALMOST, I'M A LITTLE BIT KIND OF LIKE ON THE FENCE ABOUT WHERE THE SOURCE OF KIND OF OUR FOCUS IS, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING IT FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE ABILITY TO IMPACT IT, AS OPPOSED TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY GONNA SAY IN THE SURVEY, I DON'T FEEL LIKE ANY OF THIS IS HAPPENING.

I FEEL LIKE WE WE'RE KIND OF WORKING BACKWARDS AS FAR AS LIKE WHERE OUR INPUT IS COMING FROM.

RIGHT.

THE CITIZENS DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE JUST FOUND OUT.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO IT'S LIKE WE GOTTA BE TALKING TO THE CITY TO BE LIKE, HEY, MAN, I SEE THAT WE JUST DID ALL THESE THINGS.

OH, WHOA, WE DID THAT AT THE PARK.

OKAY, THEN WE GOTTA GO BACK AND LET THEM KNOW.

RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE, I MEAN, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF GREAT THINGS HAPPENING, AND WE'RE LIKE ALL IN THE DARK.

I CAN ONLY IMAGINE CITIZENS, RIGHT? LIKE HAVE NO RIGHT OR LITTLE IDEA, RIGHT? SO TO, TO ANSWER THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF IT, RIGHT? UH, THE OTHER PART IS I THINK THE COMMISSION IS LIKE THIS, UH, ALMOST LIKE A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT THE CITY MAY THINK THAT THEY'RE DOING GREAT, THEY'RE DOING SO AND SO, SO, AND THEY MIGHT BE BLINDSIDED BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO THE, YOU KNOW, UH, THING.

BUT THAT'S WHERE THE COMMISSION COMES IN.

LIKE, HEY, THIS IS ALL GREAT, BUT WE'VE IDENTIFIED THIS GAP AND WE WANT TO BRING IT TO YOU.

SO BLIND SPOT, RIGHT? SO WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR WE HEAR BACK, AND THAT'S WHERE WE DO THE CHECK, OKAY.

LAST YEAR, AND I SAY ONE YEAR AS JUST AN ARBITRARY NU UH, TIMEFRAME, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ASKED YOU TO DO, OR WE'VE SUGGESTED, HAS THERE BEEN ANY PROGRESS? BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, WHATEVER.

AND IT'S, IT'S, SO WITH THE CITY, AND THE FOCUS AREA IS ALL ABOUT INTERNAL CITY PRACTICES.

SO THE IDEA IS MORE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE SOME SORT OF A CHECK FOR THE STUDY PRACTICES, AT LEAST A HIGH LEVEL ONE THAT WE CAN COME IN AND SAY, HEY, I THINK THIS IS OKAY, THIS IS BAD, OR THIS IS GOOD.

AND THEN THAT, THAT WAY, UH, WE MITIGATE THE RISK OF HAVING A BLIND SPOT INTERNALLY.

AND ALSO THE, THE HELP PART IS JUST AN ADDED ON THING.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY SAY, HEY, THEY'RE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH TO THINK THROUGH THIS POLICY.

COULD YOU, YOU KNOW, MAYBE MAKE THIS AGENDA ITEM, THINK THROUGH THIS AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE US THE BULLET POINTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN, MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THIS TO THEM.

UH, BUT THAT'S NOT GONNA BE THE ONLY THING THAT WE TALK ABOUT.

SO, YEAH.

SO I, I, SOME, SOME 3.2, FOR EXAMPLE MM-HMM .

RIGHT? I THINK I'M, WHEN WHEN WE SAY DISCUSS DIB PROGRESS IN THEIR AREAS, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KIND OF LIKE A CHECKLIST OR KIND OF LIKE A MARKER, RIGHT? I STILL FEEL, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST ME, I FEEL A LITTLE IN THE DARK ABOUT WHAT ESTABLISHES THAT MARKER, RIGHT? BECAUSE I HAVE TO GIVE, I HAVE TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO STRIVE FOR, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

SO IF I'M GONNA TALK TO PARKS AND REC, THEY MAY HAVE SOME THEIR OWN SET OF THINGS LIKE, HEY, WE'RE DOING THIS TO TRY TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, SOME DIV ARE WE COMING TO THEM WITH? AND THE COMMUNITY HAS IDENTIFIED THESE ITEMS, PARKS AND RECS THAT THEY WANT TO SOMEHOW CAN ADDRESS.

SO THAT WHEN WE'RE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, IT'S LIKE, WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

LIKE, SO I GUESS IT'S LIKE MM-HMM.

WHAT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO ON YOUR OWN VERSUS WHAT ARE WE BRINGING TO YOU AS, SO I, I THINK THAT THAT, AND MAYBE THAT KIND OF GOES BACK INTO THE WORKING GROUP OR KIND OF THE LISTENING POST SPACE WHERE WE NEED TO MAYBE THINK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE SOURCE OF MM-HMM.

WHERE WE'RE FOCUSING.

SO, UH, THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT IS MORE OF, AT THE, AT ITS ABSOLUTE CORE, IT'S JUST KNOWLEDGE SHARING.

MM-HMM .

AT ITS ABSOLUTE CORE KNOWLEDGE SHARE.

THERE'S NO COMMITMENT THAT THERE'S NO OBLIGATION, RIGHT? THAT YOU NEED TO

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DO THIS, OR WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS.

IT'S JUST, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

UH, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? IS THERE A WAY TO IMPROVE OR NOT? AND IT MAY BE SO IT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY PERFECT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, OR THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE NEED.

IT'S COMPLETELY OKAY.

IT'S JUST, IT JUST GIVES US A OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE IN THE KNOW.

AND WE KNOW, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT ABOUT, ABOUT THE FRITZ PARK, ABOUT THE SENSORY OR THE, UH, CERTIFICATION.

BUT IF WE, I'M SURE IF IN IN THE CONTEXT OF DEIB, IF YOU WERE TO TALK TO JEFF, THAT'D BE LIKE THE FIRST THING THAT WOULD COME UP.

YEAH.

HEY, HEY.

AND OKAY, NOW WE KNOW.

YEAH.

COOL.

AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING MORE, RIGHT? IT CAN BE MORE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THING.

SO FOR ME, THAT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER HIGH PRIORITY, BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.

SO I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE, UH, FOCUSING A LOT OF OUR ATTENTION ON THAT OR ON THOSE LINE ITEMS OR ON THOSE, UH, SPECIFIC POINTS.

BUT I THINK WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING SOME ATTENTION OR PUTTING SOME ATTENTION.

YEAH.

THIS IS A, UM, THIS IS A, A RELATIONSHIP WHERE EVERYONE INVOLVED.

WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.

AND IF THERE'S ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE IN A RELATIONSHIP AND LIKE YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT AND IT'S LIKE YOU'RE BOTH TRYING TO SAY THE SAME THING, BUT YOU'RE SAYING IT IN A LANGUAGE, RIGHT? THAT THE OTHER PERSON, SO IT'S LIKE WE GO TO THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC SAYS, HEY, WE HAVE ALL THESE NEEDS.

AND THEN WE GO TO THE CITY AND WE SAY, HEY, THE PUBLIC SAID THEY HAD THESE NEEDS.

ARE WE DOING ANYTHING? IT COULD BE JUST LIKE THAT, RIGHT? YEAH.

RIGHT.

ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THESE? THEN WE GO, OH, WELL, DA DA.

AND NOW WE CAN, NOW WE HAVE ANSWERS.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO THAT KNOWLEDGE SHARING EXAMPLE IS PERFECT BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS, AS I'M LEARNING AS SINCE WE'RE ALL LEARNING, IS JUST WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING FOR, FOR OUR CITY, AND WE JUST DON'T.

YEAH.

WE JUST DON'T KNOW.

YOU KNOW? YEAH.

AND IT'S LIKE, HAVE A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT BOTH WANT TO LOVE MM-HMM .

WELL, I, YEAH, I, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I, I THINK THAT'S JUST THE PIECE WHERE I WOULD WANNA SAY MM-HMM .

WE HAVE, UM, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE KIND OF BRINGING TO THEM AS OPPOSED TO RELYING SOLELY ON THEM BRINGING MM-HMM .

KIND OF TELLING US, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE LIKE A WA NOT, WE'RE NOT A WATCHDOG ORGANIZATION, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S LIKE, OKAY, SO HOW ARE YOU GUYS COMPLIANT? MM-HMM .

YEAH, , WE'RE COMPLIANT.

WE'RE GOOD.

YOU KNOW? AND IT'S LIKE EVERY OFFICE YEAH.

YOU'LL GET RESISTANCE.

YEAH, GOOD POINT.

YOU'LL GET RESISTANCE.

I WANT US TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SO GREAT EXAMPLE.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY, UH, HAVE A PLAYGROUND AREA AND THEY PUT ONE OF THOSE SUNSHADES UP MM-HMM .

WHICH IS PERFECT.

'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE KIDS NEED WHEN THEY'RE OUT THERE.

HAD THEY PUT A BUNCH OF WATER FOUNTAINS, I PROBABLY WOULD'VE SAID, CAN WE GET A SUNSHADE? MM-HMM .

RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, OH, WELL, WE PUT WATER FOUNTAINS OUT.

SO THAT HELPS.

YEAH.

THAT'S NOT BAD.

BUT THE PRIORITY COULD HAVE BEEN.

SO THAT'S WHERE I FEEL LIKE OUR ROLE IS, IS TO SAY, THE PUBLIC WANTS THIS, OR THEY'RE IDENTIFYING THIS.

YOU GUYS MIGHT BE DOING THESE THINGS AND THEY MIGHT BE PARALLEL, RIGHT.

RUNNING SIDE BY SIDE, BUT IF YOU CAN GET SOME ATTENTION ON THESE ITEMS, THEY'RE GONNA FEEL IT MORE.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

YEAH.

NO, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

THE MODEL, MY VISION IS PUBLIC GIVES US AN INPUT.

WE TALK TO THE CITY, OR PETITION TO INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, UH, GROUP OR WHATEVER DEPARTMENT.

AND THAT'S HOW, KIND OF LIKE THE INFORMATION FLOWS.

SO MY QUESTION IS THAT LIKE, IF WE DON'T HAVE 3.2, LET'S SAY WE DON'T HAVE 3.2, OR WE DON'T HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEPARTMENT.

WHEN THIS MODEL MATURES, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE? SO, UH, IS IS YOUR CONCERN THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION RIGHT NOW? SO WHAT ARE YOU GONNA TALK ABOUT? SO MY, MY CONCERN IS, IT SOUNDS LIKE IN STRATEGIC PLAN, THE ONLY PLACES TO RECEIVE INFORMATION ARE FROM THE THREE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE HAVE, OR WE'RE DOING CITY SERVICE TOO.

WE'RE DOING, SO WE HAVE THE CITY SURVEY, RIGHT.

WHICH WE'LL NEED TO KIND OF DIVE INTO MORE MM-HMM .

WE HAVE THE WORKING GROUPS MM-HMM .

WE HAVE THAT YOU, YOU BELONG IN HA, ADVANCE.

AND THEN THAT'S ULTIMATELY THE, THE IN MODEL.

WE'RE RECEIVING INFORMATION

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FROM THE PUBLIC.

THAT'S THE ULTIMATE, UH, POINT OF IN MY MIND THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE REASON WHY THIS GROUP EXISTS, COMMISSION EXISTS.

SO WE START WITH THESE FEW CHANNELS THAT WE HAVE, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE STEADY, THEY'RE GOOD, THEY'RE RELIABLE, AND THEN WE CAN EXPAND.

BUT THAT, THAT THERE'S A TIME COMPONENT TO THIS MODEL.

SO WE DO HAVE FEW DEFINED CHANNELS OF INPUT RIGHT NOW, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THAT'S GOING TO GROW AS THE COMMISSION MATURES.

BUT ONCE WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION, IT ALSO NEEDS TO GO SOMEWHERE.

SO IN THE MODEL 3.2 EXISTS, IT MAY NOT BE VERY ACTIVE RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

BUT AGAIN, AS THE TIME COMPETENT, YOU KNOW, PROGRESSES, THAT'S GONNA GET MORE ACTIVE BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA HAVE A LOT MORE TO SHARE WITH THEM.

SO IN MY MIND, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO HAVE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THAT AS OF RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO WORK OR, YOU KNOW, WORK MORE ON GETTING THE INPUTS SORTED AND THE INCOMING CHANNEL SUSTAINABLE, RELIABLE, ALL THAT SORT OF THINGS.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I, AND, AND MAYBE WE, THIS MIGHT NEED TO BE KIND OF A ANOTHER RIGHT.

TOPIC OR ANOTHER, UM, AGENDA ITEM, I THINK IS REALLY, LIKE YOU SAID, THE SOURCING OF THAT INFORMATION, HOW WE'RE STORING IT, HOW WE'RE IDENTIFYING IT, UH, HOW WE'RE KIND OF ARCHIVING IT, RIGHT.

BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT THAT WILL, UH, I THINK IT'S GONNA LEAN US IN A DIRECTION.

AND I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THAT SURVEY THAT WE JUST TOOK, AND AS WE DISSECT THE DATA, AGAIN, HOW DO WE ADDRESS THE DATA THAT WE GOT MM-HMM .

FROM THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT MIGHT BE RESPONDING TO IT, IF THEY'RE NOT PART OF ONE OF THOSE WORKING GROUPS, OR IF THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE MM-HMM .

I, I STILL THINK WE NEED A WAY TO GET THAT INFORMATION FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GONNA FALL INTO ONE OF THE CATEGORIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE SET.

RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART THAT I THINK, BUT I THINK THAT 3.2 MAKES SENSE.

I THINK IT'S JUST MY QUESTION WAS MORE, SO WHERE IS OUR RECOMMENDATION COMING FROM? RIGHT.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO.

YOU, YOU, I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE IN THE FUTURE AS WE GROW, AND THIS EXPANDS, RIGHT.

MORE SOURCES OF THAT MM-HMM .

COMING IN AS WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND IDEAS AND, AND WORKING GROUPS.

RIGHT.

IT'S LIKE, YEAH.

THE IDEA WOULD BE IS, AND I THINK THE BACKING OF DEIB IS THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE'S RIGHT.

HEARD AND SEEN AND PROVIDED FOR.

SO IT'S AN AIRBAG.

YEAH.

NO ONE WANTS IT UNTIL WE NEED IT.

RIGHT.

IT'D BE BEST IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF THEM.

ALL RIGHT.

SO FOCUS AREA FOUR, PROVIDING A DEI TO FOCUS ON ECONOMIC GROWTH AND EMPOWERMENT.

THIS IS, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW THE, UH, THE LEAST PRIORITY ITEM FOR ME BECAUSE WHAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE PRIORITY ITEM IS THAT THIS BECOMES THE SMALL BUSINESS GROUP, AND THIS FOCUS AREA THEN COMES UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THAT WORKING GROUP.

AND SO IT'S NOT AN INDEPENDENT, UH, FOCUS AREA.

IT IS PART OF THE, THE SMALL BUSINESS GROUP.

SO THAT'S HOW I'M LOOKING AT THIS THOUGHTS, UM, ONCE WE GET AROUND TO IT.

SO I WON'T GET LOST IN A TALL GRASS.

WELL, ONCE WE GET AROUND TO IT, IT'S LIKE, AND I'M, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, CORINA'S A GREAT RESOURCE BECAUSE SHE'S A MEMBER OF THE CHAMPION.

RIGHT.

AND THE CHAMPION'S A GREAT RESOURCE TO FINDING OUT NEW SMALL BUSINESSES WHO MAY NEED HELP AND ASSISTANCE.

SO, NO, I LIKE IT.

IT'S GOOD.

RIGHT? SO THE, THE QUESTION WITH THIS IS, DO WE TAKE AWAY THIS FOCUS AREA COMPLETELY IN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, OR DO WE HAVE THIS FOCUS AREA STILL SHOW, BUT IT IS REPURPOSED AS SOMETHING THAT'S KIND OF CHANNELED THROUGH THE, THE SMALL BUSINESS WORKING? I THINK THAT WE COULD DO THAT, AND IT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE, RIGHT? SO WE'RE GOING TO, EVENTUALLY THERE'S GONNA, IT IS GONNA BE THERE, RIGHT? SO MM-HMM .

AND IT'S GONNA GROW, AND IT'S, UH, WE WANT THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE WE'RE A CITY THAT'S GROWING RIGHT.

CRAZY FAST.

RIGHT.

SO I, I, I WOULD KEEP IT IN AND WHETHER OR NOT WE DECIDE TO FOCUS ENERGY FUNDS AND RESOURCES ON IT NOW OR LATER, YOU KNOW MM-HMM .

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OUT AND THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND

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PUT IT BACK.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO LET'S KEEP THIS, OR NOW THAT'S, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES, SIR.

OKAY, COOL.

UH, THEN FINALLY, FOCUS AREA FI GROW, UH, CONTINUE TO GROW COMMUNI, UH, CULTURE OF COMMUNITY INCLUSION, BELONGING.

SO CONTINUE WITH THE DI WE FOCUS PROCLAMATIONS.

I THINK THESE ARE REALLY GOOD, REALLY EASY, UH, LOW HANGING FRUITS THAT WE SHOULD BE KNOCKING OUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, EVERY SINGLE MONTH.

NOT EVERY SINGLE MONTH, BUT REGULARLY IS WHAT I MEAN.

UH, 5.2, BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, ADD A FEEDBACK LINK ON A WEBSITE.

THINK IT'S A RELATIVELY LOW HANGING FRUIT AS WELL.

AND THAT, THAT FEEDBACK LINK COULD JUST GO ON THE DEIB PAGE, UH, IF IT NEEDS TO.

YES.

BUT WHAT WE KEEP RUNNING INTO IS THAT IT, THERE'S NO WAY FOR ME TO MAKE IT ANONYMOUS.

SO DOES IT HAVE TO BE ANONYMOUS? THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.

I THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS, IT DOESN'T, I MEAN, IT JUST CREATES ANOTHER CHANNEL.

AND IF YOU NEED TO CREATE AN ANONYMOUS CHANNEL, WE CAN DO THAT IN THE FUTURE.

WAIT, WAIT, ACTUALLY, WAIT.

WHY CAN'T IT BE ANONYMOUS? 'CAUSE YOU'LL HAVE TO PUT IN TO SUBMIT THE FORM, I'LL HAVE TO PUT IN AT LEAST AN EMAIL.

WHY? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S JUST HOW OUR, OUR WEBSITE IS.

OH, OKAY.

SO THERE'S NOT LIKE A CHAT, UH, MESSAGE BOARD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT YOU COULD JUST JOIN AND YOU COULD BE ANONYMOUS? NO.

SO WE WOULD HAVE TO DO LIKE, UM, UM, OKAY, SO LIKE TAKE THE CITIZEN WORKING GROUPS, FOR EXAMPLE.

UH, FIX THAT THING.

OKAY.

ANYWAY, THERE'S A FORM.

AND WHEN YOU SUBMIT A FORM, IT'S GONNA HAVE YOU, BEFORE YOU'RE ABLE TO SUBMIT, IT'S GONNA HAVE YOU PUT IT IN EMAIL AND IT WON'T LET YOU.

NO.

IS THAT, IS THAT THE SETUP OF THE FORM, OR IS IT BECAUSE WHERE, WHERE DOES IT GO TO? DOES IT GO TO MY EMAIL? WELL, IT GOES TO A, A HU COMMUNICATIONS EMAIL.

UM, I MEAN, SO AS FAR AS I THINK ABOUT, I'M COLLECTING THAT, OR, OR, YEAH, BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT LIKE SERVICES LIKE SURVEYMONKEY AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHERE IT'S LIKE, YOU DON'T NEED AN EMAIL TO SUBMIT IT, RIGHT.

YOU JUST NEED ACCESS TO THE LINK.

MM.

SO IS IT, IS IT JUST THAT THAT'S HOW HU'S PAGE IS SET UP? OR IS THERE A WAY TO MAYBE ACCESS SOME TYPE OF EXTERNAL, LIKE HYPERLINK IT, LIKE YEAH, GO HERE TO SUBMIT YOUR THING, AND THEN THAT THING IS ANONYMOUS, AND THEN YOU HAVE ACCESS TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S CONTROLLING THAT SURVEY, RIGHT? YOU HAVE ACCESS TO DATA, RECEIVING THE DATA, WHICH YOU CAN PUT INTO AN EXCEL SHEET OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO FROM THERE, RIGHT? YES, WE CAN DO THAT FOR SURE.

IT'S JUST AS FAR AS HAVING A, THIS, YEAH.

OUR WEBSITE MANAGEMENT IS CALLED CIVIC PLUS, AS FAR AS HAVING A CIVIC PLUS EMBEDDED FORM, IT'S GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANONYMOUS, BUT WE COULD PUT A BIG, BIG LINK.

MM-HMM .

I JUST PERSONALLY THINK, LIKE, FOR THIS TOPIC, BECAUSE IT IS SENSITIVE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO SUBMIT ANONYMOUSLY, AND GRANTED, WE'RE GONNA GET, I'M SURE TROLLS AND PEOPLE WHO MAYBE JUST ARE GOING TO USE THAT IN A WAY TO AIR THE GRIEVANCES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEIR VIEWPOINT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS NOT VALID.

YEAH.

UM, OR AT LEAST, UH, I IMPACTFUL FOR US TO LOOK AT.

UH, BUT I THINK YOU MIGHT GET SOME FEEDBACK THAT YOU WON'T GET MM-HMM .

YOU HAVE TO ATTACH YOUR NAME TO IT MM-HMM .

UH, WHETHER THAT'S GOOD OR BAD, SO.

RIGHT.

UM, THAT'S JUST MY, I'LL LOOK INTO, UM, I'LL PUT ON MY LIST TO LOOK INTO WHICH, WHICH ONES ARE FREE.

I THINK SURVEYMONKEY IS FREE.

UM, AND IF THERE'S GO TO MICROSOFT FORM, DOES THAT MAKE SOMEONE SIGN IN? I'M NOT SURE.

BUT, UM, I'LL LOOK AT EXTERNAL OPTIONS AND, AND YEAH.

AND IF THAT BECOMES A, AN ISSUE, YEAH.

I THINK JUST BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ABLE TO GET, MAKE IT ANONYMOUS, I MEAN, THERE'S, I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLETELY OKAY BEING KNOWN AND GIVING FEEDBACK, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WE'RE KIND OF STOPPING THEM FROM GIVING US FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO GET ANONYMOUS FEEDBACK.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, AT THE VERY LEAST WE CAN HAVE, YEAH, WE CAN GET STARTED ON THAT.

AND THEN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT'S A RELATIVELY, YOU KNOW, LOW HANGING FRUIT, WE CAN JUST TAKE THAT AND THAT, THAT, THAT TAKES CARE OF, UH, A LOT OF THINGS.

AND I THINK IF YOU GIVE THEM THE OPTION, LIKE, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO PROVIDE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, RIGHT, OR NUMBER, IF YOU, FOR US TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU MM-HMM .

GREAT.

BECAUSE

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THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE, HEY, I'D LOVE TO TALK FURTHER ABOUT THIS.

UM, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT THAT TO ME SHOULDN'T KEEP US FROM SOURCING INFORMATION, I THINK ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

AND I THINK PEOPLE CAN JUST MAKE JUNK EMAILS AS WELL, LIKE RANDOM JUNK.

I MEAN, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT DIFFICULT, RIGHT? YEAH.

IS IT? WELL, I THINK SO.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GIVE THAT MUCH FEEDBACK TO MAKE A JUNK EMAIL, THEN YEAH.

BUT I THINK I COULD, WOULD Y'ALL WANT IT SET UP TO, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE UNCOMFORTABLE, MAYBE UNCOMFORTABLE, AND YOU'RE GIVING IT TO GIVING THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITY GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YEAH.

OR YOU KNOW, FOR FEAR, THEN IT MAY BE USED INCIDENT IN SOME WAY.

MM-HMM .

SO I COULD, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE MY TAXES HIGHER.

YEAH.

, I COULD, WOULD Y'ALL RATHER ALL, ALL OF THE RESPONSES COME TO ME AND THEN I, UM, PUT THAT TOGETHER AND DELIVER IT TO YOU? OR I CAN PROBABLY, I HAVE TO SEE FOR SURE, BUT I COULD PROBABLY MAKE IT GO STRAIGHT TO ALL OF YOU.

BUT THEN FOR TURNOVER, THAT BE ISSUE.

YEAH.

I THINK, I THINK IF THERE'S A CENTRAL LOCATION, MAYBE AR COM.

YEAH.

AND THEN I'LL, I'LL PUT IT TOGETHER LIKE A, A REPORT IN.

THERE'S A WAY TO GET IT.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WOULD WORK, BUT JUST LIKE THE GOOGLE DRIVE, SOMEHOW IT, I DON'T KNOW.

IT AUTOMATICALLY CREATES LIKE AN EXCEL ENTRY AND THEN THAT GETS UPDATED IN THE GOOGLE DRIVE AND THAT'S LIKE AN EXCEL, YOU LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.

NO, YEAH.

NO, THAT YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT.

PLEASE.

LEMME KNOW THAT'S, I LIKE THAT A LOT.

NO, YES.

I'LL, I'LL GET THIS.

I CAN FIGURE THIS OUT THIS WEEK.

COOL.

UM, OKAY.

SO YEAH, I MEAN, UH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL FIND OUT SOON ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN THE FINAL, UH, PART OF THE FOCUS AREA IS REIGNITING YOU, YOU ALONG IN HU I DON'T THINK REIGNITING IS THE RIGHT WORD.

I THINK JUST CONTINUING THE, YOU BELONG IN HU CAMPAIGN AND THEME.

SO WE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, RAISING OUR BUDGET REQUEST FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY LINE ITEM THAT GOES UP IN OUR BUDGET.

UM, BUT ANYWAYS, THAT'S, AND THEN THE, YOU BELONG IN HURO IS KIND OF LIKE THE DDIB COMMISSION'S TAGLINE.

IT'S SORT OF, UH, OUR THING AS A COMMISSION.

AND SO THAT JUST, THAT THAT TAGLINE PERMEATES EVERYTHING OR SHOULD PERMEATE EVERYTHING THAT WE TOUCH, UM, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST MY THOUGHT.

UM, ANYWAYS, THAT'S THE LAST FOCUS AREA.

THOUGHTS, CONCERNS, QUESTIONS.

IF NOT, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE BUDGET.

PARDON THAT.

YEAH, THAT'S THE ONE.

AND SO, UH, THE BUDGET IS BASICALLY SPLIT INTO TWO SECTIONS.

ONE IS, ONE GOES TO CONSULTANT.

ONE IS FOR OUR KIND OF INTERNAL, UH, USE.

SO 12 HOURS THIS TIME, UH, AS OPPOSED TO 15 LAST TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S GONNA PERFORM THE DI FOCUSED ANALYSIS.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE BASED ON THE SURVEY THAT WE GET.

SO I THINK THAT SHOULD DEFINITELY STAY CONSULTANT HOLDINGS, ZOOM INTERVIEWS WITH EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, IT WOULD BE AMAZING TO HAVE THAT, I THINK, SO THAT WE CAN BE ALIGNED WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL THINK, WHAT THE MAYOR, WHAT THE MAYOR THINKS.

AND THAT WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GUARDRAILS IN PLACE THAT, AND IT'S, IT'S ALL TRANSPARENT.

SO WE'RE NOT STEPPING ON ANYBODY'S TOES.

WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT'S UNAUTHORIZED, UH, OR, YOU KNOW, ANY OF, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.

BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY COUNCIL'S GONNA PROVE TO THAT LINE ITEM SPECIFICALLY.

UH, SO I DON'T PERSONALLY KNOW IF IT MATTERS WHAT EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER THINKS.

I, I THINK THAT OUR STRATEGIC PLAN AND OUR CHARTER IS SUPPOSED TO LINE UP WITH THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO, SO REALLY WHETHER ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER HAS A CERTAIN VIEW, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE HOW WE OPERATE.

LIKE WE DON'T, THAT, THAT SHOULDN'T CHANGE WHAT WE DO.

RIGHT.

LIKE, OUR ALIGNMENT ISN'T TO BE, OUR GOAL ISN'T TO BE ALIGNED WITH COUNCIL.

OUR GOAL IS TO BE ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE CITY.

RIGHT? SO, AND I DON'T, I, I WOULD IMAGINE CITY COUNCIL WOULDN'T, LIKE, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF INTERVIEWING ME? LIKE RIGHT.

BECAUSE WHAT IF I DO DISAGREE MM-HMM .

LIKE, WHAT HAPPENS? WELL, AND THEN NOTHING.

WELL, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS' GONNA COME AND GO, WE'RE GONNA INTERVIEW THE NEW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TWO SPOTS OPEN UP IN MAY NEXT YEAR.

SO THERE'S A, IT'S AN

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ELECTION YEAR.

YEAH.

SO, RIGHT.

SO IS THAT, THAT WAS THE ONE POINT THAT I'M HAVING.

LIKE, I HAD A, HAD SOME I WAS STRUGGLING WITH TO REALLY JUSTIFY, AND THAT'S WHY THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THAT I THINK THAT THAT CAN GO, WE WOULD BE SPENDING MONEY ON.

RIGHT.

AND I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T THINK THAT YES.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME IN AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT REALLY ACHIEVE? UH, AGAIN, I, IF WE HAD INFINITE MONEY, I THINK THAT THAT STAYS ON.

BUT IF I HAD LIKE A FREE COUPON, MAYBE YEAH.

I JUST, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF THAT, I, I JUST, I GUESS WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THE END GOAL OF THAT INTERVIEW DOES, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

SO IF THERE WAS SOME ACTION TO BE TAKEN MM-HMM .

BECAUSE I GET, I GET INTERVIEWING SOMEONE FOR A JOB MM-HMM .

AND SAYING, HEY, IS THIS ALIGNED WITH THIS? BUT THEY WERE ELECTED, THEY'RE ELECTED.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS HOPEFULLY DURING LIKE A FORUM MM-HMM .

OR THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

SO AFTER THEY'VE GOTTEN THEIR CITY COUNCIL POSITION, I DON'T KNOW WHAT , I THINK ALL THE CITY COUNCILS, THEY'LL GIVE LIKE MULTIPLE INTERVIEWS.

SO WE JUST NEED TO GET STAN ALL THE INTERVIEWS.

YEAH.

I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING THEY'D LIKE TO SEE BE DONE, THEY'LL LET YOU KNOW .

SO, OKAY.

YEAH.

I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF OUR TOUCH POINT.

YES.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE SPEND ON THAT IS, SO THAT GETS TAKEN AWAY.

SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE CUTTING IT DOWN BY ABOUT ANOTHER THOUSAND BUCKS OR, OR REALLOCATED IT.

UH, SURE.

BUT AGAIN, I MEAN, UH, WE HAD JIM LAST TIME AND HE WAS NOT VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT A NUMBER THAT BIG IS GONNA THE 11.

YEAH.

OH, OKAY.

SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I'M THINKING WHAT'S THE MOST BARE BONES NUMBER THAT WE CAN GIVE THEM THAT TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO ACHIEVE IN THIS YEAR? AT THE SAME TIME, UH, IT DOES NOT SPOOK THE COUNCIL.

I MEAN YEAH.

I MEAN 11 VERSUS 17.

SO WE'RE ALREADY, WE'RE ALREADY GOING DOWN.

YEAH.

SO, AND ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GONNA PITCH IN MY PITCH, UH, ON SEPTEMBER 3RD IS GONNA BE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DOWNWARD TREND AS THE, AS THE GROUP MATURES, BECAUSE WE ARE GONNA HAVE LESS AND LESS CONSULTANT, UH, INTERACTION.

AND THE ONLY LINE ITEM THAT WOULD REALLY GO UP OR COULD GO UP IS THE YOU BELONGING HU CAMPAIGN.

AND EVEN THEN IT'S REALLY GONNA BE, SO THE YOU BELONGING HU IS AN UMBRELLA THING FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION DOES.

AND MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK INTO KIND OF PUTTING THAT IN A MORE DETAILED FORMAT.

BUT YOU BELONG IN HURO IS ALSO WHERE THE WORKING GROUPS WOULD BE SUPPORTED.

THAT THAT PART IS WHAT IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE WORKING GROUPS AS WELL.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE THE, THE PITCH AS WELL, THAT, HEY, AS THE GROUP MATURES, AS THE COMMISSION MATURES, WE WILL SLOWLY SEE A DROP IN THE BUDGET REQUEST BECAUSE WE'LL BE MOVING AWAY FROM USING A CONSULTANT THAT EXTENSIVELY.

YEAH, I'M, I'M FINE WITH STRIKING THAT FROM THE THING.

MM-HMM .

COOL.

AND THEN, UH, PROVIDING TRAINING, HOLDING THREE LISTENING POSTS, UH, WORKING WITH THE IB COMMISSION ON INVOLVING THE DIB PLAN, THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT I THINK, UH, WE WILL GET PUSHBACK ON FROM THE COUNCIL.

I WAS OUTTA THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE HOLDING OFF ON LISTENING POSTS UNTIL WE WERE STOOD UP ON ALL THE SMALL WORKING GROUPS.

RIGHT.

SO THAT IS CONT YEAH.

THAT IS CONTINGENT ON WHETHER WE HAVE THE WORKING GROUPS UP AND RUNNING MM-HMM .

UM, BUT IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE DO HAVE THEM RUNNING, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME ALLOCATED MONEY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, STAN CAN HOLD DIESEL SLEEP POSTS.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS ONE BIG ONE AS WELL, UH, THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK AT, UH, KIND OF, UH, PUSHING DOWN.

SO MAYBE WE COULD DO HOLDING ONE LISTING POST AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BRING THE AMOUNT DOWN BY TWO THIRDS.

YEAH.

WELL, WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE GROUP STOOD UP RIGHT NOW, SO.

RIGHT.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUSHING BACK SMALL BUSINESS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND WE DON'T, AND THE STANDING OF A VETERAN SMALL GROUP IS UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME.

I MEAN, YEAH.

AND THEN WOULD IT BE THE SAME INDIVIDUALS ATTENDING THE TRAINING?

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UH, WHICH PART? WHICH, WELL, I'M SAYING LIKE, YOU'RE PROVIDING TRAINING.

OH, RIGHT.

SO FOR THE WORKING GROUP, IF THE SENIOR WORKING GROUP ALREADY WENT THROUGH THAT TRAINING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I'M NOT SURE.

GOTTA, I'LL, I'LL CHECK IN WITH STAN.

WHAT, BECAUSE I GET, IF IT'S LIKE NEW MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, BUT IF THE, IF THE PRESENTATION OF THE INFORMATION IS THE SAME AS WHAT THEY GOT WHEN WE STOOD IT UP MM-HMM .

WITH THEY, UH, YEAH.

I MEAN, UNLESS IT'S LIKE A PRESSURE THING, UH YEP.

ASK ABOUT TRAINING.

YEP.

SO AS A GROUP, HOW MUCH DO WE WANNA SUPPORT THAT? I I THINK WE CAN PUSH IT DOWN TO A THOUSAND THAT, YOU KNOW, TAKES CARE OF A LISTENING POST AND HAS A CUSHION IN CASE THERE'S ONE MORE OR HAS A CUSHION FOR LIKE, EXTRA TRAINING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR ANY OTHER WORKING GROUP THAT COULD COMES UP.

WAIT, CAN I, SO HOW IS THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT FACTORED THOUGH, RIGHT? IS THAT LIKE A HOURLY RATE IS YES, HE DID, UH, HE DID SEND ME THAT, LET ME, LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IT REAL QUICK.

SO HE DID SEND ME A, UH, KIND OF A BREAKDOWN ON HOW HE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER.

AND THEN IS THAT ALSO THE TRAVEL COST? SO THE TRAVEL COST IS SEPARATE.

I ITEM ALTOGETHER.

SO, BUT THE, THE TRAINING FOR THAT IS THAT IN PERSON, UH, UH, THE LISTING POST WOULD BE IN PERSON.

SO I ASSUME THE TRAINING WOULD BE TACKED ON TO THAT.

SO THE, THAT 1550 IS THE TRAVEL COST FOR RIGHT.

EVERYTHING IN THAT FIRST CONSULTANT BOX AS WELL AS, AM I READING THAT RIGHT? I'M SORRY.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? YEAH.

SO IN THAT ONE TRIP UHHUH, THEY'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING IN THAT FIRST BOX.

STAN WILL ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING IN THAT FIRST BOX IN ONE TRIP.

THE, THE 12 HOURS.

A GENERAL CONSULTANT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CONSULTANTING IN PERSON.

SO REALLY THEN IT'S JUST THE TRAINING AND LISTENING POST IS THE TRAVEL COST, BASICALLY.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK THAT IF WE'RE REALLY ONLY DOING ONE WORKING GROUP, WELL, WE WANNA BE THE ON THE OPTIMISTIC, AND WE ARE DOING FOUR WORKING GROUPS.

HOW MANY LISTENING POSTS DID WE DO THIS YEAR? RIGHT? IT'S LIKE, AND DEIB TRAINING WHEN, WHEN WE ALL DID THE TRAINING WITH STAN, HE, HE WENT OVER HOW TO HOLD A LISTENING POST.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

REALISTICALLY, I MEAN, AND MAYBE THIS IS JUST THE, JUST ME, BUT WE SHOULD BE TEACHING OUR SMALL GROUPS THAT WE SPONSOR HOW TO HOLD THE LISTENING POSTS LIKE A TRAIN THE TRAINER.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

WE GOT TRAINED HOW TO DO SOMETHING.

SO WE SHOULD BE RELAYING THAT INFORMATION.

AND WE STILL HAVE THE TOOLS FROM THE DEIB TRAINING, THE HANDOUTS THAT WE PAID FOR, RIGHT.

TO TEACH HOW TO HOLD THE LISTENING POSTS.

I MEAN, DO WE HAVE A DIGITAL COPY OF THE HANDOUTS? YEAH, THERE WE GO.

BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK, I, I, I THINK THE GOAL OF THIS IS THERE'S A LEVEL OF INDEPENDENCE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE AT SOME POINT.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT? LIKE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, TRAIN THE TRAINER IS LIKE THE PERFECT, THE PERFECT APPROACH.

WHERE AS A COMMISSION, I THINK IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF CONVERSATION WITH THE GROUPS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, NOT THAT IT TAKES AWAY FROM LIKE THE VALIDITY OF IT, BUT IT'S LIKE, THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING TO GET TO.

UM, BECAUSE WE MAY NOT ALWAYS HAVE THAT RESOURCE AT OUR, AT OUR EXPENSE.

MM-HMM .

SO WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE WORKING GROUP THAT WE HAVE ALREADY STOOD UP, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS HEARING THE SAME INFORMATION THE SECOND TIME? IS IT A REFRESHER? IS IT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE LISTENING GROUPS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE, OR MORE LISTENING POSTS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE WORKING GROUPS SET UP YET.

SO I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHICH IS LIKE, WE WANT TO KIND OF HAVE IT EARMARKED IN CASE WE'RE ABLE TO GET TO IT, BUT REALISTICALLY, IF WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS NUMBER DOWN TO SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE QUESTION IF I WAS ON THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, I WOULD ASK MM-HMM .

IS LIKE, THIS IS A SIMILAR LINE ITEM TO LAST YEAR.

DID WE NOT GET IT DONE LAST YEAR MM-HMM .

AND IF WE DIDN'T GET IT DONE LAST YEAR, HOW DO WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA GET IT DONE THIS YEAR? RIGHT.

SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WOULD THINK ABOUT.

BUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF LIKE THE, HOW WE GET TO THE 2150.

RIGHT.

THAT'S THE ONLY PIECE THAT I, SO, SO BASICALLY, UM, LOOKING AT STANCE

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EMAIL AND WHAT HE'S DONE IS, UM, HE IS APPROXIMATED IT TO ABOUT 10 HOURS OF CONSULTING TIME, AND HE'S PUT HIS HOURLY RATE AT ABOUT TWO 15 AN HOUR.

SO THAT'S HOW HE'S COMING UP AT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE NUMBERS.

UH, YEAH.

THE, THE, THE FIRST NUMBER IS 12 HOURS, SECOND NUMBER IS, UH, 4.5 HOURS, THIRD NUMBER FOUR HOURS, OR SECOND NUMBER IS FOUR HOURS, THIRD NUMBER IS 4.5, AND THE FOURTH NUMBER IS UH, 10.

AND THEN, UH, THE TRAVEL EXPENSE IS BASICALLY BASED ON, UH, THE THREE TIMES THAT HE TRAVELED IN PAST YEAR IS KIND OF BASING THAT OFF OF THAT.

I FEEL LIKE THOSE THREE, THE SAME POSTS THAT I, I'M A LITTLE SKEPTICAL JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE AS A COMMISSION WE'VE BEEN TRAINED ON HOW TO DO THAT AND WE, WE SHOULD BE PRESSING THAT TRAINING TO OUR GROUPS.

OKAY.

I, I, I SEE THE VALUE IN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I THINK THERE'S TWO MAJOR QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ANSWER.

OKAY.

ONE, DO WE FEEL THAT THERE IS TANGIBLE BENEFIT JUSTIFIABLE TANGIBLE BENEFIT OF STAND COMING HERE? BECAUSE IF HE'S NOT HERE THOUGH, 1500 JUST GOES AWAY.

RIGHT? SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A MASSIVE, UH, UH, WAY WE COULD POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE BUDGET.

SO HIM BEING HERE HAS TO HAVE ENOUGH VALUE FOR US TO SAY, HEY, NO, I THINK WE SHOULD BE PAYING HIM.

YES, SIR.

1500.

SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE QUESTION.

THE SECOND QUESTION IS, IF WE ARE THINKING OF TRAINING TRAINER, KIND OF A THOUGHT PROCESS, WOULD IT BE BETTER TO THEN, INSTEAD OF HAVING HIM BE HERE, WOULD IT BE BETTER TO JUST, INSTEAD OF 12 HOURS, LET'S KEEP IT 15 HOURS, BUT THAT'S IT.

SO HE'S ACCESSIBLE A LITTLE BIT MORE IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR HIM, BUT HE JUST WON'T BE HERE IN PERSON.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ANSWER.

MM-HMM .

WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS SAYING? SO, UH, MAY, MAYBE I CAN START, GET THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT.

YEAH.

SO, SO, SO LIKE, FOR, FOR ME, THIS COMMISSION, WE, WE SHOULD BE SMALL UNION LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.

SO IT'S LIKE WE SHOULD BE IMPLEMENTING WAYS TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANT COME OUT ALL THE TIME.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE, FOR ME, I'M ASKING HIM SAYING, WHO IS HE SPEAKING TO, AND HOW DO WE GET THEM ALL IN THE SAME PLACE? BECAUSE HE'S NOT TRAINING US.

WE'VE BEEN TRAINED.

HE'S DONE THE DIB TRAINING, WHICH SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED LISTENING POSTS, INFORMATION AND TRAINING WITH CITY COUNCIL.

SO IS HE COMING TO DO LISTENING POSTS FOR CITIZENS? AND IF SO, WHERE ARE WE ALL MEETING? HOW ARE WE GETTING INFORMATION TO THEM? HOW ARE WE ORGANIZING AND GETTING THESE PEOPLE IN ONE SPACE TO GET THIS INFORMATION? AND THEN WHAT DO THEY DO WITH IT? WHEREAS IF WE JUST SAY, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION, 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN TRAINED BY STAN, AND NOW WE HAVE THE TIME, OPPORTUNITY, AND SPACE TO FACILITATE AS WE'RE WORKING WITH THESE SMALL WORKING GROUPS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND AND, AND LEARN WHAT WE'VE OBTAINED THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WE GOT FROM OUR TRAINING, AND THEN THEY CAN PUT IT OUT AND, AND HOLD THEIR LISTENING POSTS.

IDEALISTICALLY AS, AS YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER, IT'S LIKE, WE WANT TO BE AS INDEPENDENT FROM THE SMALL WORKING GROUPS AND JUST KIND OF BE BACK SHADOWING, RIGHT.

AND THEY'RE, WHEN THEY NEED US, AND IT JUST, IN MY BRAIN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HOLD THREE LISTENING POSTS WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THREE GROUPS.

ONE, TWO, WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO FACILITATE HIM SPEAKING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN TRAINED.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND PUTTING A BOOKMARK THERE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IN CASE WE NEED IT.

WELL, HERE, HERE'S, HERE'S ONE MORE ASPECT TO THAT.

YES.

WE'VE BEEN TRAINED, WHAT IF I MOVE, YOU GUYS MOVE AND WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE COME IN, OR FOR SOME REASON YOU CAN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, LIAISON WITH THE SENIOR WORKING GROUP.

SOMEONE ELSE HAS TO COME IN.

WE HAVE TWO WEEK SLOT, ONE OF THEM JOINS, AND THEN THEY, SO IT GOES FROM STAND, UH, TRAINED US.

SO WE TRAIN THE NEW PERSON AND A NEW PER PERSON TRAINS THE GROUP OR WHATEVER.

MY POINT IS, UH, WE MAY RUN INTO AN ISSUE WHERE IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE ONE BENCHMARK PERSON THAT'S THERE TO PROVIDE THAT.

SURE.

BUT THIS IS SAYING HOLDING THREE LISTENING POSTS, RIGHT? SO LISTENING POSTS IS PART OF THE DEIB TRAINING THAT WE ALL, ALL COMMISSIONERS MM-HMM .

ARE GETTING, RIGHT.

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SO I FEEL LIKE IF THIS IS SOMETHING SEPARATE THAN THE TRAINING THAT WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF REINVENTED.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REPEATING MM-HMM .

RIGHT? SO I UNDERSTAND LIKE, LIKE WE'VE GOT TWO, TWO VACANCIES, RIGHT? THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE TRAINED IF THEY GET FILLED IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

BUT IT'S LIKE THE LISTENING POST TRAINING IS PART OF THE DEIB TRAINING WITH STAND.

SO I, I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING SEPARATE TO, TO GIVE INFORMATION OR TO HOLD LISTENING POSTS FOR CITIZENS AND SMALL WORKING GROUPS.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S UNNECESSARY BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE HANDLING THAT.

NOW, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S TRAINING FOR NEW COMMISSIONERS WHO MIGHT COME ON, THEN THE, YEAH.

IT'S, IT'S RELEVANT, RIGHT? LIKE YOU SAID, WHAT IF SOMEONE MOVES OR LEAVES OR WHATEVER.

BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S ONE THING AND NOT THE OTHER, I MEAN, OR WE SPEND 2150 FROM TO DO THAT, THAT'S, YEAH.

I THINK THE PRIORITY, WHAT I'M HEARING IS THAT THE PRIORITY WOULD BE TO TRAIN THE COMMISSION MM-HMM .

SO THE COMMISSION CAN ALWAYS BE IN A POSITION TO FACILITATE THOSE TYPE OF LISTS POST MEETINGS.

AND I THINK THAT EVEN WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE TIMING OF THAT, IF WE, IF IF HIS TRIP, IF HIS TRIP TO HUDU IS EARLY 2027, WE DON'T GET THESE POSITIONS FILLED UNTIL MM-HMM .

MAY.

SO NOW WHAT HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, IS IT, IS IT PUSHED, IS IT EFFECTIVE? IT WOULD BE PUSHED.

I MEAN, THIS IS NOT SET IN STONE WHEN IS GONNA COME.

SO LIKE, I, I THINK PART OF WHAT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE REALISTIC ABOUT IS THE SUSTAINABILITY.

SO AT SOME POINT YOU NEED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF ARE THE, ARE THE TRAINING MATERIALS GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO US TO, TO USE ON OUR OWN? AND HE SAID THAT THEY ARE, RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE, EVEN WHEN HE DID TRAINING WITH CITY COUNCIL LAST MONTH, WE WERE ALLOWED TO RECORD IT.

HE, HE PROVIDED THE INFORMATION SO IT'S REPEATABLE, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.

OR, HEY, WATCH THIS VIDEO ON THIS.

RIGHT.

OR, HEY, WATCH THIS SECTION ON THIS.

SO MAYBE THE CONVERSATION NEEDS TO BE HAD LESS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN PERSON AS OPPOSED TO CAN YOU CREATE A FORMAT TO TRAIN THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE YOU TO BE HERE.

RIGHT.

AND IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT PRICE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM .

THE FIRST INITIAL UPFRONT.

BUT IF WE HAVE SOMETHING KIND OF IN PERPETUITY THAT WE CAN HAVE EVERYONE SIT DOWN AND WATCH, AND WE CAN DO IT WHENEVER SOMEONE COMES ON BOARD AND NOT HAVE TO BE, BECAUSE I THINK I DID MY TRAINING MONTHS AFTER MM-HMM .

I HAD ALREADY BEEN ON THE COMMISSION, WHICH RIGHT.

IN THEORY, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE GOT THAT MY FIRST BEFORE.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SO IT'S LIKE YEAH.

THE TIMING OF IT, I THINK WE LOSE THE ABILITY TO HAVE IMPACTFUL TIMING RIGHT.

WHEN WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE, LIKE, WE CAN ONLY DO THIS WHEN YOU'RE HERE.

SO MAYBE THAT'S THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS.

AND I, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK, UH, I THINK THE BETTER SOLUTION HERE IS THAT WE INCREASE THE TIME THAT WE USE HIM, LIKE THE GENERAL CONSULTING SERVICES, BUT THERE REALLY ISN'T, UH, A NEED IDENTIFIED RIGHT NOW, AT LEAST IN THE NEXT YEAR FOR HIM TO PHYSICALLY BE HERE.

RIGHT.

AND OVER THE COURSE OF NEXT YEAR, IF YOU THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE STAND BACK, HEY, WE CAN, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD THAT TO THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET MM-HMM .

AND THEN BRING THAT IN.

BUT WHAT I'M THINKING IS 12 HOURS IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH IF WE'RE WANTING HIM TO DO THE TRAINING OR, OR ANYTHING OF THAT SORT MM-HMM .

UM, IF HE'S NOT HERE.

SO I WOULD RECOMMEND, IN MY MIND, I THINK KEEP IT, HE, HE WAS, UH, DOING 15 LAST, LAST YEAR.

LET'S KEEP IT 15 AGAIN.

AND THAT WOULD BE JUST THE 15 HOURS OVER THE COURSE OF YEAR THAT HE'S ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE WE CAN, WE CAN ASK HIM TO DO RUN RESEARCH.

MM-HMM .

DO ANALYSIS.

YEAH.

WE CAN THINK THROUGH A PLAN THAT WE DEVELOPED WITH HIM.

AND I THINK HIS INPUT IS VALUABLE.

UM, BUT AS LONG AS HE'S DOING IT ONLINE, WE DON'T NEED HIM TO COME HERE AND, OR NEXT YEAR WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED ANY REQUIREMENTS.

SO LINE ITEM BASICALLY THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE, WHICH IS THE ZOOM INTERVIEWS WITH EVERY COUNCIL, AND THEN PROVIDE TRAINING IN ONE LISTENING POST, AND THEN TRAVEL EXPENSES.

ALL THOSE KIND OF GET CLUBBED AND GO AWAY.

WE CAN AT LEAST, UH, PIVOT THAT.

EVERYONE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT ABBY? AGREE.

COULD WE DO THAT? THAT'S PERFECT INVESTIGATION.

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ALRIGHT.

WITH THAT, TAKING CARE OF THE FINAL ONE IS, UH, YOU BELONG IN HURO.

NOW THAT NUMBER IS, IS IS SORT OF ARBITRARY.

UH, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THOUGHT BEHIND IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, UM, WE'RE THINKING SIX EVENTS.

SO THAT'S $500 PER EVENT AND THEN ABOUT $200, UH, PER EVENT.

PER WORKING GROUP.

OH, NO, I'M SORRY.

NOT PER WORKING GROUP PER EVENT.

THAT GOES TO THE WORKING GROUPS.

THOSE NUMBERS ARE KIND OF ARBITRARY, BUT THAT, THAT'S KIND OF BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE SPEND THIS YEAR ON.

UH, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND ABOUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS ON GIVEAWAYS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S, AND WE, WE PUT THAT OVER TWO EVENTS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE 500 COMES FROM.

MM-HMM .

AND THEN, UH, THE 200, THAT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN 200.

I THINK IT'S LIKE 1 91 90 TIMES SIX.

SO THAT'S ALSO JUST LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE TO COVER THE FOOD FOR, YOU KNOW, EVENTS THAT WE HAVE.

AND THEN THAT CAN ALSO GO TO, BECAUSE I THINK WE SPENT ABOUT A THOUSAND, NOT EXACTLY LESS THAN A THOUSAND, BUT ABOUT 900 MAYBE WHERE'S LESS THAN I WANNA PUT, I WANNA PUT IT AT LIKE SEVEN.

I MEAN, I, IT IT, IT'S, IT'S RECORDED THERE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IF YOU GO TO THE BUDGET AND IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND SHEET, IT, I HOPE IT'S THERE.

YOU SHOULD SEE THE DIB DINNER.

UH, UH, THE, THE, THE SPREADSHEET.

YEAH, THE TRACK SPREADSHEET.

IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND SHEET, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? UH, OH, YES.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MERGE.

YEAH, THE BANNER WAS $60.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 2 50, 400, 5 50.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, ABOUT $600 FOR, UH, FOOD.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME CUSHION THERE.

AND THEN ALSO FOR RESOURCE, UH, FOR WORKING GROUPS.

BUT WHAT I'M THINKING, AND YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD TODAY, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE GETTING RID OF WHAT, UH, CLAIM, YOU KNOW, PLANNING TO GET RID OF 1, 2, 3, 4, ALMOST $5,000, I THINK WE CAN, CAN PUT THAT UP AND SAY, HEY, SENIOR CITIZENS GET ABOUT 1500, UH, VETERANS GET ABOUT A THOUSAND SMALL BUSINESS, GET ABOUT A THOUSAND.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE CONTINGENCY, UH, FOR WORKING.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE, WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN THERE BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A, THERE'S NO PROGRESS FOR THAT.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S GONNA FLY WITH THE COUNCIL, BUT, UM, 1,504 WORKING GROUP, SENIOR WORKING GROUP THOUSAND FOUR VETERANS, AND THEN A THOUSAND FOR SMALL BUSINESS AS AN EXTRA, UH, THAT, THAT GETS ON, ON THAT LIST.

DO WE NEED TO LINE ITEM, ITEM THEM OR NO? 'CAUSE REMEMBER IT'S ALL GENERAL ANYWAY.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK KIND OF, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT ONE OF THE FEEDBACKS THAT WAS RECEIVED LAST TIME WHEN COMMISSIONER, UH, WELL, WHEN COMMISSIONER, COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA WAS THE COMMISSIONER, UH, THE I COMMISSIONER WAS THAT THE COUNCIL REALLY APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT WE HAD IT DOWN TO THE DETAIL AND SPLIT BY, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL LINE ITEMS. SO I THINK IN THE SAME SPIRIT, IF WE DO THAT THIS YEAR, AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE MORE AMENABLE.

SO IF, IF WE DO THAT, THEN WHAT I WOULD, I WOULD THINK WOULD, I THINK IT SHOULD LOOK EVEN THEN.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I THINK MY QUESTION WOULD BE OBVIOUSLY WHY DOES ONE GET MORE THAN THE OTHER? YEAH.

BUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO CHANGE, LIKE LET'S JUST SAY WE GET THE VETERAN, UH, WORKING GROUP UP AND GOING AND IT TAKES OFF MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE TO, TO BE ABLE TO MOVE STUFF IN AN EQUAL FASHION THAN TO SAY LIKE, WELL, BY THE, BY HOW WE ALLOCATED THE SENIOR GROUP SHOULD ALWAYS GET MORE, RIGHT? LIKE, THAT'S HOW IT'S GONNA LOOK ON PAPER.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST KEEP IT EVEN SPLITTING POINT EVENLY BETWEEN ALL THE GROUPS.

SO 1250, I MEAN, THEN, THEN WE HAVE TO KIND OF JUST GET DOWN TO A NUMBER YEAH.

DO 1200 ACROSS THE BOARD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THEN IF, IF ONE USES MORE, ONE USES LESS, WE ADJUST THAT WAY.

BUT, ALL RIGHT.

SO LET ME THEN RUN THE NUMBERS, NUMBERS, SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

SO YOU GOT TWO 15 TIMES 15

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PLUS EIGHT 60 PLUS, UH, PLUS OFF TO CHIEF FINANCE, LIKE FIRST THING THEY DO, UM, FINANCE AND THEN 500 PER EVENT.

I NEVER HAVE TO LOOK AT, WELL, I LOOK AT PERCENTAGES ALL THE TIME.

THE NEXT PERSON THAT SAYS STATE TO THE RIGHT OF THE Z SCORE OR Z SCORE AND RIGHT OF CENTERS PROGRESS.

YEAH.

AND PLUS, LET'S SAY A THOUSAND OR JUST LIKE WOODEN AND KIND OF PRETTY COUNT MORE MORE THAN WHAT I'M SHOWING YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, 15 TIMES TWO, 15 PLUS EIGHT 60 PLUS THREE TIMES 12, 15.

OH, I THINK I PUT IN YEAH, 3000.

3000 FOR, FOR EVENTS AND THEN A THOUSAND FOR JUST LIKE MISCELLANEOUS FOOD AND ALL THAT.

SO I COME UP TO LIKE 11,835.

SO, UH, MAX TO SQUARE ONE.

.

YEAH.

WELL, RIGHT NOW I THINK THAT WE, WE PROBABLY WANNA REDUCE THE, UH, PER EVENT NUMBER FOR, FOR YOU BELONG IN HU SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S AT 500 RIGHT NOW, MAYBE IS THAT 500 PERMIT? PERMIT? AND ABOUT SIX EVENTS A YEAR.

SO IT'S 3000.

SO WE HAVE, SO WE ALREADY MADE ONE PURCHASE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

CORRECT.

AND HOW MUCH OF IT WAS, UH, ABOUT 900 FOR THE GIVEAWAYS? WE DIDN'T GIVE EVERYTHING AWAY.

WE DID NOT.

WE HAVE QUITE A FEW COOZIES AND ALL OF THE HIPPOS.

YEAH.

IT'S ASSUME THOUGH, AFTER THIS NEXT EVENT, THE ONE 50 YES.

I WOULD ASSUME NOT GONE.

GONE.

OKAY.

UNLESS Y'ALL CHOOSE NOT TO.

I MEAN, YOU CAN.

WELL, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF LIKE, THAT KIND OF PROJECTS INTO THAT SO WE CAN KIND OF TAKE A LITTLE BIT AWAY THINKING.

I MEAN, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT YOU'VE USED TO BASE IT OFF, RIGHT? SO LIKE A THOUSAND DOLLARS OR TWO EVENTS.

YEAH.

UM, AND, AND THE O THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I CAN THINK OF IS, UH, WE KIND OF CUT STAND DOWN TO 12 HOURS.

UH, THAT TAKES ABOUT 16, AND THEN WE DO A THOUSAND PER WORKING GROUP.

SO THAT TAKES OFF $600.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT'S OKAY.

MM-HMM .

BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET THE GROUP, LIKE RIGHT, THE GROUPS GOING.

RIGHT.

SO, SO 12 TIMES, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S 12 BY 80 PLUS EIGHT 60 PLUS 3000 FOR THE WORKING GROUPS, PLUS 3000 FOR THE EVENTS, PLUS A THOUSAND FOR GENERAL STUFF.

WE GET DOWN TO 10 44 40.

YEAH.

I THINK THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH TO FOUR DIGIT FIGURE THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO, 'CAUSE WE ARE, WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE, UH, FROM THE SENIOR CITIZEN WORKING GROUP AT THE EXCLUSIVE WORK SESSION, AND THEY'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE GROUP ITSELF.

AND SO THAT SHOULD MAKE AN IMPACT.

AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNCIL'S CONVINCED THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF SUPPORT THEM.

YEAH.

WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS GET, IS FILL SEATS AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH SOME OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS.

RIGHT.

AND SO, UH, THE NEXT GAMES, I BELIEVE ON THURSDAY MM-HMM .

UM, THAT'S GONNA BE A TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WITH, WITH THE SENIORS, SO RIGHT.

BY GIVING THEM IN AND EXPRESSING NEED.

'CAUSE I MEAN, THEY, THEY ARE A VOTING BLOCK.

MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE MO AND FOR ALL YOUR WORKING GROUPS, OUR, OUR COUNCIL DOES TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT SERIOUSLY INTO CONSIDERATION.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM, EVEN IF IT'S NOT, YOU'RE NOT EVEN NECESSARILY ASKING FOR SOMETHING, BUT JUST TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF THINGS THEY REALLY APPRECIATE WHEN PEOPLE COME UP AND ACTUALLY GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO YEAH, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOUR GROUPS TO DO THEM, FOR SURE.

OKAY.

SO I THINK, UH, WE HAVE A GOOD NUMBER

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TEN FOUR, FOUR ZERO.

RIGHT? THAT LOOKS GOOD TO EVERYONE.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH.

A WHILE.

SO GOOD JOB.

UH, RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

BUT YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S, UH, INPUT.

IT'S, IT'S, UH, REALLY DIFFICULT JUST COMING UP WITH NUMBERS AND THINKING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT MAKES SENSE, WHAT'S NOT.

AND A LOT OF IT, UH, IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE, I DEAL WITH, UH, NUMBERS THAT ARE RIDICULOUS MM-HMM.

BECAUSE IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

AND SO I, I FOUND IT REALLY DIFFICULT.

SO IT'S LIKE, HUH, HOW DO WE GO THROUGH, YOU KNOW, FOUR FIGURE NUMBERS? SO, THANKS.

UM, I HAVE ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO SHOW YOU GUYS.

AND THAT IS THE, THE, MY, UH, KIND OF LEAN STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS, UH, THE IV STRATEGIC PLAN PN, AND I THINK IT'S THAT ONE.

YEAH, THAT ONE.

I THINK IT'S THAT ONE.

AND IT'S JUST CONSOLIDATED.

UH, SO THE ONLY REAL CHANGES THAT INSTEAD OF HAVING 10 ITEMS FOR FOCUS AREA ONE, I HAVE FIVE, UH, AND FOCUS AREA FOUR, INSTEAD OF IT BEING, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH, UH, EDC AND, UH, THE CHAMBER, IT JUST IDENTIFY ROOM BEAR FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.

THAT'S, UH, COMING STRAIGHT FROM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS OF PTA'S, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMENT.

BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS BASICALLY THE SAME.

UM, SO YEAH.

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? GO.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO BASED ON THIS, MY PLAN IS TO COME UP WITH A SCHEDULE, LIKE A YEARLY SCHEDULE.

AND, UH, PART OF THAT IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE SECOND EXCEL SPREADSHEET.

SO I'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU A QUICK YEAH.

DUTY SCHEDULER.

THAT'S RIGHT.

SO KIND OF PUT TOGETHER, UH, SPREADSHEET, AND I PUT IN SOME NUMBERS THERE.

SO IF YOU GO TO SCHEDULE, UH, TAB, OH, SORRY.

NO.

UH, BY MEETING DAY.

YEAH.

THE, THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS, IS A LITTLE COMPLICATED ON THE BACKEND.

SO THIS IS NOT FULLY DONE, BUT THIS BASICALLY SHOWS THAT EVERYONE, YOU KNOW, VISITS ONE, UH, COUNCIL ATTENDS ONE COUNCIL MEETING, UH, SORRY, THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS OVER THE YEAR.

AND I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS IS UP UNTIL, OH, IT'S JUNE.

MY BAD.

I THOUGHT IT WAS JANUARY.

UH, SO THAT'S ABOUT A YEAR FROM NOW.

AND SO EVERYONE DOES THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS, AND THEN THERE'S A PROCLAMATIONS TAB.

UH, WE AS A COMMISSION WANT TO TARGET ABOUT SEVEN ONE PER SEAT PROCLAMATION EVERY YEAR.

UH, AGAIN, THAT'S AN ARBITRARY NUMBER WE CAN DO MORE OR LESS, BUT I THINK THE AIM SHOULD BE TO DO ABOUT SEVEN.

AND THEN, SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT TELLS EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER WHICH SEAT OR WHICH, UH, COUNCIL MEETING THAT EVERY COMMISSIONER, WHICH COUNCIL MEETING THAT THEY NEED TO GO TO.

UH, AND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A PLACEHOLDER.

SO LIKE MUSA, IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT FREE ON ONE OF THEM, YOU CAN SAY, HEY, BOOK.

OKAY.

DO YOU MIND SWAPPING OR EVEN TAKING OVER? OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

MM-HMM .

UH, IT'S ALL GOOD.

IT'S JUST A SKELETON, AND WE CAN KIND OF MOVE THINGS AROUND AS WE NEED TO.

YEAH.

AND THEN AS WE ADD PROCLAMATIONS AND THEIR DATES, THAT WILL SHOW UP.

THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO JUST COME UP WITH A CALENDAR THAT IS D-E-I-D-D SPECIFIC.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'LL WORK ON, AND IT'LL HOPEFULLY BE SOMETHING THAT'S NICE, BUT I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE ROSTER, SO THIS IS WHERE EVERYTHING'S INPUT AND BASED, EVERYTHING IS BASED OFF OF THE SEAT.

SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PEGGED TO THE NAME, IT'S PEGGED TO THE SEAT.

SO I COULD BE REPLACED AND THE NEW PERSON WILL JUST

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ASSUME THE DUTIES OF SEAT NUMBER ONE.

SO THERE IS A CONTINUITY THAT'S BASED ON THE SEATS.

UM, AND THEN THE, THE REASON WHY THE ROLES ARE THERE IS BECAUSE IF THERE'S ONE VACANCY, THEN THAT VACANCY GOES TO THE CHAIR.

IF THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES, THAT VACANCY GETS PICKED, UH, UP BY THE CO-CHAIR.

AND THEN IF THERE'S THE THIRD VACANCY, THAT'S, THAT TRIGGERS THE BOARD, THAT, THAT TRIGGERS THE BOARD DISCUSSION BASICALLY.

AND HOW WE WANNA DO THIS, DO WE WANNA ROLL BACK ON, YOU KNOW, ATTENDANCE ON THE COUNCIL MEETINGS OR, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA SEE IF SOMEONE'S UP, UP TO TAKE THAT, UH, ROLE EXTRA UP AS WELL? UM, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT'S IN THE SETTINGS, BUT I MEAN, IT'S NOT REALLY, OH, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE WAY I'M KIND OF STRUCTURING IT.

IT'S SET UP IN TRIMESTER.

SO THAT'S ALSO THE IDEA IS NOT EVERYONE JUST DOES THE SUMMERS, ATTENDS THE COUNCIL MEETING IN THE SUMMERS OR WHATEVER.

THEY'RE NOT FIXED.

THEY KIND OF, KIND OF MOVE AROUND.

SO THERE'S SOME FLAVOR.

YEAH.

ANYWAYS, THAT'S, UH, WITHOUT GETTING TOO MUCH INTO THE, THE, THE LOGIC BEHIND IT, THAT'S WHERE THE TRIMESTER PART COMES AT.

BUT, UH, ANYHOW, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND THE ULTIMATE, WITH THE ULTIMATE IDEA OF COMING UP WITH A CALENDAR THAT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR US, SO THAT WE CAN JUST GO INTO THE, INTO THE GOOGLE DRIVE, LIKE SEE, HEY, FOR THE NEXT YEAR, THIS IS WHAT I'M PICKING UP.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M GONNA PUT THAT ON MY PERSONAL CALIBER.

SO WE ALL KNOW, ESSENTIALLY, OH, THIS IS HELPFUL.

YEAH.

I LIKE THE SALON.

RIGHT.

AND, UH, ONE FINAL THING ON THE PROCLAMATIONS, I DO PLAN ON DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHERE EVERYONE'S ASSIGNED SOMETHING AND I ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE LIKE A LIST OF, HEY, THESE ARE PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE COULD BE DOING.

I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? PROCLAMATIONS? I, I, I ACTUALLY WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE, I, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE OUR PROCLAMATIONS FOR THE YEAR SET.

RIGHT.

I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD KNOW WHICH MONTHS WE'RE GONNA DO.

I MEAN, WE CAN GET THOSE PRE-WRITTEN MM-HMM.

SO THAT WE'RE NOT KIND OF, 'CAUSE I KNOW FOR ME, I'LL BE ON LIKE A DEADLINE, LIKE, OH SHOOT, I WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND THAT IN BY, YOU KNOW MM-HMM .

SO I THINK, LIKE EVEN FOR YOU, ABBY, IF WE WERE ABLE TO, FROM AN ACTION ITEM, JUST SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA PICK THE SEVEN THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS YEAR, GET THEM SUBMITTED.

YOU CAN HAVE THEM IN THE TUCK SO THAT YOU COULD JUST MM-HMM .

THEY WILL BE THE CITY SECRETARY OF STATE.

YEAH.

AND THEN IF SOMEONE LEAVES, THEY JUST ASSUME YOU, WE ALREADY HAVE THE PROCLAMATIONS KIND OF ALREADY, OR SOMEONE STEPS IN AND ALREADY KNOWS, OKAY, I'M GONNA DO THIS ONE.

SO I LIKE THAT.

I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR US TO GET ORGANIZED, A GREAT WAY FOR US TO FOCUS.

UM, AND IF SOMETHING COMES UP WHERE IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T HAVE A PROCLAMATION PLAN FOR THIS MONTH, BUT SOMETHING COMES UP IN THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM .

WE CAN STEP UP AND DO ONE, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT, THAT'S EXACTLY THE THOUGHT BEHIND THIS.

AND, AND THEN I, I WANNA KEEP IT AS OPEN THE PROCLAMATIONS PART AT LEAST THAT WE CAN JUST COME AND ADD MORE.

OR IF WE DON'T HIT SEVEN ONE YEAR, THAT'S OKAY.

SO, WE'LL, WE'LL, BUT I, I LIKE THAT IDEA.

I THINK WE CAN JUST SET THAT, YOU KNOW, SEVEN FOR THE YEAR OR THE EIGHT OR WHATEVER.

AND SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK NEXT MEETING AND JUST FINALIZE FOR THE NEXT, UH, 12 MONTHS.

COOL.

THAT'S ALL FROM ME ON THIS SOLID WORK.

OKAY.

THANKS.

YEAH.

SOLID WORK.

DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO, WE SETTLE.

I THINK THIS IS JUST A DISCUSSION FOR, WE'RE ON SEVEN THREE, RIGHT? YEAH.

7.3.

UM, YOU COULD MAKE, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND BUDGET, UH, WITH THE CHANGES DISCUSSED TONIGHT, IF THAT'S HELPFUL.

IF Y'ALL WANNA GO AHEAD.

YEAH, THANKS.

THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.

YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

LET'S, LET'S MOVE ON.

SO, UH, I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND BUDGET AS DISCUSSED, UH, TONIGHT, 24 FOR APPROVAL.

I'LL SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

YOU PASSES THREE.

OH, ALRIGHT.

WE LIKE A LOT OF THE 7.4 AND 7.5 DISCUSSION ALREADY HAPPENED, BUT WE'LL STILL KIND OF RUN THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION OF CITIZEN WORKING GROUP REGARD IMPROVEMENT, PURPOSE, SUPPORT, AND TRAINING.

UH, ANYBODY YOU WANNA START US OFF? THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE JUST HAVE ON THERE FOR GENERAL DISCUSSION

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ABOUT WORKING GROUPS AND HOW THAT GOING.

YEAH, I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE BEAT THAT ONE A BIT.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD.

I THINK THE ONLY THING, I THINK JUST TO RECAP, WE HAVE, UH, THE CITIZENS WORKING GROUP THAT'S GOING STRONG.

ON, UH, COMMISSIONER FURY ON TOP OF IT.

UH, UM, AND, UH, I WILL REACH OUT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSON, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT MEETING AND I'LL REACH OUT AND ASK IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEW REQUIREMENT OR, UH, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, UH, THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE VETERANS AND THEN THE SMALL BUSINESSES, ONE THAT'S GONNA GET FORMULATED.

I'M GONNA MEET WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS BETA, UH, IN ABOUT A COUPLE MONTHS AND WE'RE GONNA FORMULATE A PLAN, UH, TO START FROM THE NEXT YEAR.

UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO DISCUSS? UH, THIS IS WORKING GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO, OH, OKAY.

ONE THING, UM, HOW DO YOU PLAN ON, UM, COMMUNICATING THE, THE NEEDS? 'CAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED RIGHT NOW FOR THE SENIORS WORKING GROUP.

YEAH.

AFTER, AFTER WE MEET ON THURSDAY.

UHHUH .

SO WHAT I'LL DO IS, AS WE DISCUSS IS GET WITH ABBY, LET THEM KNOW.

BUT I CAN ALSO GET WITH YOU SO THAT YOU'RE NOT IN THE BOND EITHER.

YEAH.

I MEAN, IF YOU CAN JUST PUT ME IN THE CC YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'D BE .

UM, HOW ARE WE ALL COMMUNICATING OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS? 'CAUSE I THINK I'VE GOT YOU ON, WHAT IS IT, ONE OF THOSE ON WHATSAPP? YEAH.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER TALKED.

I THINK WE TALKED ONCE WITH MORGAN ON A GROUP.

YEP.

AND SO IT ADDED YOU TO MY WHATSAPP.

RIGHT.

SO, OKAY.

BUT, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, LIKE YOU AND I WON'T CHANGE.

YEAH.

YOU AND I WON'T CHANGE YOUR INFORMATION BECAUSE YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WE ARE NOT RELYING ON SOCIALS, AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THAT INFORMATION TOO.

SO.

YEAH.

AND I, I MEAN, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S A YEAH.

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE PROCESS IS.

SO I THINK AS LONG AS YOU CAN GET, UH, THE THINGS THAT YOU NEED ORDER AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SEND THAT INFORMATION OVER TO ABBY, I'M HAPPY.

IF YOU COULD KEEP ME, KEEP ME IN THE LOOP, THAT'D BE GREAT.

YEAH.

UH, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, ANY, DO WE NEED TO PASS MOTION ON THAT? NO.

OKAY.

7.5, THEN.

DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION AND PROCLAMATION.

SPONSORSHIP.

WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE THAT.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL JUST, UH, ADD THAT ON TO LINE ITEM 7.6, OPEN DISCUSSION ITEM FOR SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 MEETING.

SO I THINK THE ONLY THING IS, UH, UH, I THINK WHAT, WHAT COMMISSIONER FURY COULD POTENTIALLY DO WITH ALL THE, WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSON AS WELL IS JUST EVERY MEETING JUST PROVIDE A BRIEF OR EVERY QUARTERLY JUST PROVIDE A BRIEF, UH, INPUT ON HOW THE WORKING GROUPS ARE DOING, I GUESS COM.

UH, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSON SHOULD DEFINITELY TELL US ABOUT WHERE THE VETERANS GROUP IS, TALK ABOUT WHAT WHATNOT.

BUT, UH, IF EVERYTHING'S GOING SMOOTH, I THINK WITH THE SENIORS GROUP, IT COULD BE A QUARTERLY THING.

LET'S, THAT'S TOTALLY OKAY.

UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROCLAMATIONS.

ANYTHING ELSE? WE WANNA, UH, I THINK, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE NEURODIVERGENCE OR THE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.

I THINK THAT CAN BE AN ONGOING ITEM JUST FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS AT LEAST.

SO WE, WE TOUCH BASE ON THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME.

BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, UH, I CAN DO A QUICK REPORT ON HOW THE MEETING WITH COUNCIL, COUNCIL WENT ABOUT THE BUDGET.

UH, SO IS IT EXPECTED TO BE VOTED ON OR IS IT NEXT MEETING COUNCIL MEETING'S? JUST A, A PRESENTATION? IT'S JUST A PRESENTATION AND BUDGET GETS APPROVED WHEN THAT'S OKAY.

SO THE WORK SESSIONS, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE'S A WORK SESSION THE HOUR BEFORE AND THEY'RE HELD IN HERE.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO PUBLIC.

UM, AND SO HE'LL BE PRESENTING AT THE WORK SESSION BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING, AND THEN IT'S, IT SHOULD BE APPROVED AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AFTERWARDS.

IF IT'S NOT, IT'LL GO TO, THAT'S ON SEPTEMBER 3RD.

IF IT'S NOT, IT'LL GO TO A SPECIAL MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 10TH.

AND IT HAS TO BE, THE BUDGET HAS TO BE ADOPTED BY THAT DATE, SO.

OKAY.

BUT THEY'RE EXPECTED TO, UM, UM, LIKE WHATEVER ADOPTED ON THE THIRD.

OKAY.

UM, AND THEN I HAD AN ITEM TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY

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DOING TO GATHER INPUT AND MAYBE TALK ABOUT IDEAS.

YOU MENTIONED YOU WANTED TO JUST, JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING MAYBE.

YEAH.

JUST LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING AND MAYBE HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR YEAH, I THINK THAT THESE MEETINGS IS WHY THE DAY BEFORE I MAKE DINNER FOR TONIGHT.

'CAUSE I'LL TELL YOU WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING IS MY WIFE IS NOT HUNGRY, SO MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

IT'S SAFE TO GO HOME.

MM-HMM .

.

WELL, I HAVE BOYS HAVE A FOOTBALL PRACTICE, SO I HAD TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING KIND COOK.

AND YOU DO.

WE WE EAT WHEN WE GET BACK FROM PRACTICE.

YEAH.

AND LET ME GO AHEAD AND MAKE EVERYTHING ALL SAME FOR MY WIFE TO WORRY ABOUT.

YEAH.

HOW MANY, HOW MANY GETS YOU THREE BOYS? NO, TWO BOYS AND GIRL.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD.

YEAH.

YOU GOT A GIRL IN THERE? YEAH, SHE'S THE OLDEST.

SO SHE'S, DID SHE RESPONSIBLE? YEAH.

YEAH.

SHE IS THE OLDEST, MEANING SHE'S 11.

SO SHE THINKS SHE'S, SHE THINKS SHE THINKS SHE'S KNOW OLDER THAN THAT.

YOU GOT, YOU HAVE THREE BOYS.

WELL, JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T END.

I KNOW BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER'S 23 AND SHE THINKS SHE'S LIKE 40.

YEAH.

AND SHE'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE SHE WAS 16.

YEAH.

I'VE HAD TO TELL HER.

I SAID, I ANSWERED TO ONE WOMAN IN THIS HOUSE.

AND THAT'S YOUR MOM, NOT YOU.

OKAY.

ADJOURN.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, IT IS DAY 33 AND I ALL ADJOURN.

WORK.

GOOD WORK EVERYONE.

GOOD WORK, ABBY.

THANK YOU.

INTENSE.