8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.

[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]

ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS AND REMOVALS TO CITY BOARD AND TASK FORCES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT BOARDS AND AREA

GOVERNMENT BOARD APPOINTMENTS. >> AS COUNCILMAN PLACE THREE I'M REASONABLE IF ALL OF SEAT THREE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SO ON BUILDING AND STANDARDS WE HAVE A POSITION OR SEAT THREE IS VACANT AT THIS TIME AND I WOULD LIKE TO YES, VACANT AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE DANA LIVELY FOR THAT POSITION.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.

PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>>>> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KING? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? >> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER SNYDER?

>> AYE. .

MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> ONE LAST ONE.

AGAIN THIS IS ON THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.

I BELIEVE 6, 2 AND 4 BUT WE DO HAVE THREE ALTERNATE POSITIONS ALL VACANT AND SO I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DANA LIVELY FOR ALTERNATE. ON THE ZONING BOARD OF

ADJUSTMENTS. >> WE HAVE A SECOND.

>> SECONDED BY MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?

>> JIM SHE DOESN'T SERVE ON OTHER BOARDS, RIGHT?

>> CORRECT. THERE ARE TWO.

>> ALRIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS?

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>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD?

>> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA?

>> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KING? >> AYE.

. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOMINATING POSITIONS.

I DO WANT TO CLEAN UP HOUSEKEEPING ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL

THAT'S ON THREE BOARDS. >> I HAVE ONE.

>> OKAY. >> THERE IS THE VACANCY ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD FOR PLACE FOUR AND I'D LIKE TO PUT FORTH A NOMINATE MS. JACQUELINE COLEMAN ON THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS.

THAT WAS LIBRARY ADVISORY. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER KING? >> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA? >> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER SNYDER?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS?

>> AYE.. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> I HAVE A FEW. NOMINATE FOR SEAT SIX FOR ZONING BOARDS OF ADJUSTMENT WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT ED PRIDE.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KING AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN AMMEND IT AND IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE YOU CAN JUST SAY WHO THEY ARE AND WE COCAN DO IT ALL AT ONCE OR INDIVIDUALLY.

>> WE'LL JUST GO ONE-BY-ONE IF THAT'S OKAY.

>> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD?

>> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER SNYDER? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA? >> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER KING?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS?

>> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. .

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> NEXT PERSON I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE TO FILL SEAT SIX IN DEI B IS EBONY ADAMS.

>> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KING AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA.

ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> KING COUNCIL MEMBER KING

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD?

>> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER SNYDER? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS? >> AYE..

>> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> AND LASTLY, TO FILL SEAT SIX ON BUILDING AND STANDARD COMMISSION I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE NICOLE BOINTON. B O YTO N.

>> SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KING AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS.

ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA?

>> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS?

>> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON?

>> AYE. >> COUNCILMEMBER PORTERFIELD?

>> AYE.>> COUNCIL MEMBER KING? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SNYDER? >> AYE.

. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0.

>> ALRIGHT BACK TO YOUR HOUSEKEEPING?

>> THANK YOU. GERALD DO YOU HAVE ANY? RICK HUDSON BROUGHT IT TO MY ATTENTION AND I'M THE ONE THAT APPOINTED HIM. HE'S ON THREE BOARDS AT THIS TIME AND HE IS REQUESTED HE WANTS TO STAY ON PLANNING AND ZONING AND HE'S ALSO ON TOURIST THREE.

HE'S ON ONE AND THREE. THANK YOU.

SO WE WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVING HIM FROM, HE IS IN PLACE FOUR.

SO I AM NOT GOING TO, HE'S WILLING TO REMAIN ON THERE UNTIL WE APPOINT SOMEONE AND OUR LAWS ALLOW THAT BUT I WANT IT KNOWN THAT RICK HUDSON IS RETIRING FROM NUMBER ONE SEAT FOUR AND I'LL GET THE DATABASE REFLECTED ON THAT.

>> IS HE E-MAILING THAT IN OR TELLING YOU?

>> E-MAILED IT TO ME AND I CAN FORWARD IT.

I ASKED HIM. >> PEOPLE RESIGN THEY NEED TO BE

SEE THE SECRETARY. >> I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHAT HE WANTED BECAUSE HE WAS ON FOUR AND WE DIDN'T RENEW HIM ON ONE AND I PUT HIM BACK ON YOU RISK AND THAT WAS AN OVERSIGHT OF

MINE. >> ALRIGHT.

>> THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANYTHING ELSE FOR 81.

[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, Fire Safety, CIP). (Part 1 of 2)]

82 CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION FOR CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES. FIRE SAFETY WAS CANCELLED AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO RESCHEDULE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE

ANYTHING FOR CIP. >> NOT YET.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THERE.

MAYOR? I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE ITEM THAT WE CAN DO, BUT GERALD AND I WENT TO THEE SD

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NUMBER THREE MEETING AT NOON ON - 27TH I BELIEVE.

WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION FROM THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A THE POINT IN TIME WE CAN SHARE THAT.

>> IT'S BEEN PART OF THE FIRE SAFETY COMMITTEE.

>> I'M NOT. >> THEN YEAH.

FEEL FREE. >> WELL, I THINK IT WENT VERY WELL. THEY SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR IN NORMAL SESSION AND THEN THEY WERE PROBABLY TWO, OR A LONGER THAN THAT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T COME BACK UNTIL ALMOST 3:00 SO I DID NOT, GERALD AND I WERE NOT THERE WHEN THEY CAME OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION BUT IT ALL WENT WELL, AND I THINK THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THE CITY OF HUTTO BEING THERE AND APPRECIATED TWO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING THERE. AFTER THEY DID AGREE TO PAY THE CITY OF HUT SHUT THE JUNE AND JULY 6040 SALES TAX.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT. FOR SOME REASON THE COMPTROLLER DOES NOT HAVE THAT SALES TAX AGREEMENT AND THEREFORE, THEY ARE NOT ENFORCING IT.

>> MAKE SURE THEY WERE ASSESSING IT CORRECTLY AND THEN THEY WENT

BACK. >> SORRY.

THEN ALBERTA MIGHT EXPLAIN THIS BETTER.

THAT THE COMPTROLLER WENT BACK AND DID JUNE AND JULY AND WHAT THEY PAID WAS ACTUALLY ACCURATE THAT THE COMPTROLLER.

IS THAT CORRECT? N

NO? >> SO YOU ARE SAYING?

>> THEY ARE PAYING JUNE AND JULY.

THEY SAID THERE'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE AN AUGUST PAYMENT AND I SAW SOME E-MAIL COMMUNICATION THAT WAS COPIED THAT THEY ARE ASKING, I THINK PART OF IT IN THEIR MEETING GERALD PIPE IN

ANYTIME. >> HE CAN'T.

HE'S NOT PART OF IT. >> THEY HAVE MADE A REQUEST TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> ALBERTA BARRETT IF I NOONS DIRECTOR.

THE COMPTROLLER HAS GIVEN US WHAT THE JUNE AND JULY PAYMENTS WERE AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE USED TO CALCULATE THE INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO THEE SD NUMBER THREE WHICH I HEAR THEY AGREE TO PAY. THE COMPTROLLERS'S OFFICE SAID THEY WOULD START GIVING US THE ALLOCATION THAT WE'RE DUE WITH THE AUGUST PAYMENT AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE THAT IS HAPPENING AND WE'RE GETTING CONFIRMATION FROM THE COMPTROLLER.

WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS ARE AND YOU KNOW, SOME OTHER DETAILS ON THE AMOUNTS TO HAVE A CLEAR ANSWER TO YOU, BUT WE SEE THAT THE TRANSACTION IS HAPPENING IN AUGUST.

>> THEY'VE AGREED TO PAY THE SALES TAX SPLIT AS REQUIRED BY THE AGREEMENT? OKAY.

SO WE'RE NOT LIKE WE WERE BEFORE?

>> NO. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE

DELAYED. >> DOESN'T APPEAR.

>> I DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS ANYTHING WRONG BUT THEY AGREED TO PAY THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER AFTER EXECUTIVE SESSION THEY WERE CONTINUING TO REVIEW THE ILA, FIRE CHIEF WAS TASKED WITH PROVIDING CITY IMAGE WEAR THE RESPONSE TO THE THREE OPTION THAT'S THE CITY HAS PROVIDED.

OH AND THEY AUTHORIZE THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO REENGAGE WITH THE CITY OF HUTTO FIRE SUBCOMMITTEE.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. >> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANT TO CLEAR UP THAT THE INFORMATION WE GAVE TO THE COMPTROLLER, THEY FINALLY HAVE IT SO WE WILL GET OUR SPLIT FROM THE COMPTROLLER. IT WON'T GO TO THEM AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GIVE IT TO US SO STARTING IN AUGUST.

>> OKAY. COOL.

>> THANK YOU. >> IF IT'S OKAY I'D LIKE TO MOVE 11-1 UP NEXT BEFORE WE HIT THE PUBLIC.

[11.1. Discussion and possible action regarding the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging Commission. (Mayor Snyder)]

ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE NEXT ITEM DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DYE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND BELONGING COMMISSION.

>> NO PUBLIC COMMENT, MAYOR. >> WE HAVE ONE.

THANK YOU. HOW QUICKLY I RUN A FOUL.

WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT. BRANDON DE LEON?

>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS A MINORITY I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE DEI-B WITHIN THE CITY

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OF HUTTO. LET ME MAKE SOMETHING VERY CLEAR. I BELIEVE EVERY RESIDENT OF HUTTO SHOULD BE TREATED WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT AND FAIRNESS AND I BELIEVE DISCRIMINATION IS I DON'T THINK AND GOVERNMENT SHOULD TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY UNDER THE LAW.

BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHY I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT INSTITUTIONALIZING OR CONTINUING TO INSTITUTIONALIZE DEI.

THE QUESTION WE SHOULD ASK IS NOT WHETHER DIVERSITY OR INCLUSION ARE GOOD THINGS, OF COURSE THEY ARE THE QUESTION IS WHAT SPECIFIC GOVERNMENT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE THAT ISN'T BEING ADDRESSED. WE ALREADY HAVE CITY DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND CHURCHES AND NON-PROFITS AND VETERAN ORGANIZATIONS, SENIOR ORGANIZATIONS AND SMALL BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS AND RESIDENTS WHO SERVE DIFFERENT PARTS OF OUR COMMUNITY. SO WHAT EXACTLY WOULD A GOVERNMENT DEI STRUCTURE DO THAT'S NOT ALREADY BEING DONE? IF THIS IS ABOARD AND GROUP ARE TO SUPPORT OR REPRESENT SEEN SCORES AND VETERANS AND SMALL BUSINESSES AND OTHER COMMUNITIES WE NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY THOSE NEED TO BE INSTITUTIONALIZED BY CITY GOVERNMENT RATHER THAN SUPPORTED THROUGH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY EXIST.

THERE IS AN ISSUE THAT I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE SERIOUSLY.

GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS DON'T ALWAYS REMAIN UNDER THE SAME LEADERSHIP OR THE INTERPRETATION THAT CREATED THEM.

WHAT STARTS TO DAY AS A WELL INTENTIONED EFFORT CAN BE INTERPRETED DIFFERENTIALLY BY A DIFFERENT COUNCIL.

A FUTURE COUNCIL COULD POTENTIALLY USE THE SAME STRUCTURE TO DETERMINE WHICH GROUPS RECEIVE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT AND ACCESS AND WHICH BUSINESSES ARE CONSIDERED FOR OPPORTUNITIES OR WHICH VIEWPOINTS ARE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE. THAT IS WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY THESE STRUCTURES CAN BE WEAPONIZED.

WE SHOULD NOT CREATE GOVERNMENT INFRASTRUCTURE TODAY AND SIMPLY ASSUME EVERY FUTURE ADMINISTRATION WILL USE THE EXACTLY AS INTENDED. AND JUST A LITTLE TIDBIT.

THIS CAN BE SAID ABOUT THE USE OF FLOCK CAMERAS, RIGHT? WE ALSO SEEN OTHER TEXAS CITIES RECONSIDER DEI INITIATIVES.

DALLAS AND FORT WORTH MOVE AWAY FROM MUNICIPAL DEI PROGRAMS IN 2025. WHILE RACE CONTRACT PROGRAMS IN HOUSTON HAVE PAID SERIOUS CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGES.

THOSE EXAMPLES SHOULD CAUSE US TO PAUSE AND ASK WHETHER HUTTO NEEDS TO GO DOWN THIS PATH. OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALREADY, I'M WAY OVER. IS IT ALREADY OVER?

MY A BAD. >> THAT'S ALRIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. >> ALRIGHT.

JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S INFORMATION SOMEONE THAT WATCHED WE HAD A WORKSESSION INVOLVING THE DEI-B COMMISSION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS THERE AND I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP.

JUST TALKED ABOUT IT 15 MINUTES AGO TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE IT AND GET MORE INPUT FROM THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE REASON I HAD THIS ON HERE AND I THINK THE PRESENTATION WAS A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION. THE CHAIR PUT ON AND I APPRECIATE THE BOARD BEING THERE AND THE INPUT.

I THINK THEY ARE DOING GOOD WORK BUT ONE CONCERN IS DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING DEI WORK. WE'RE DOING SOMETHING ELSE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME OF THAT IS BUT IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT.

THEY DID BRING UP GOOD POINTS THAT SOME PEOPLE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE, LIKE SEVERAL OF US A GOOD VIEW OF ELECTED PEOPLE SO THEY WANT TO REACH OUT TO A NEIGHBOR OR SOMEONE THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH. SO I DO SEE AN IMPORTANCE IN THAT. THE LIBRARY IS ALSO KIND OF BEEN DOING MORE, SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING MORE OF THE DEI TYPE STUFF AND HAD MORE PROGRAMMING THAT IS KIND OF I THINK ALONG THE LINES OF DEI WORK, SO BEFORE OUR WORKSESSION, QUITE HONESTLY WAS TO DO WAY WITH D EI-B AS A BOARD BECAUSE IT SEEMED IT SERVED IT'S PURPOSE AND THEN AFTER THE WORKSESSION MY VIEWPOINTS CHANGED A BIT. I STILL THINK WE NEED TO DO AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW THE LIBRARY IS DOING IT AND WE CAN PUT MORE FOCUS WITH THE LIBRARY AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH BUT THEN I THINK THE PEOPLE CURRENTLY ON THE DEI-B, WORKING GROUP. WE DETERMINE WHAT WORK GROUPS WE WANT THEM TO WORK ON BECAUSE AS COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS BROUGHT UP THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO US AND THEN WE KIND OF TASK THEM WITH THINGS TO DO AND NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN,

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I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVING AS MUCH DIRECTION SO THEY HAVE BEEN FILLING GAPS AND LOOKING FOR GAPS TO FILL SO I THINK THAT THEY HAVE SOME GOOD STARTS TO THINGS.

SOME THINGS I ADMIT OVERLAPS. BUT IF WE WORK AS A COUNCIL TO DIRECT THEM IN CERTAIN AREAS THEY CAN STILL BRING BACK RECOMMENDATIONS ON HEY, HAVE YOU LOOKEDAT THIS ISSUE OR THIS AND WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK ON THIS, AND IF WE TASK THEM WITH GIVING US FEEDBACK MORE TIMELY INSTEAD OF ONCE A YEAR WE CAN DIRECT THEM AT YES, GOT TO WORK ON THIS GROUP AND HERE'S MONEY FOR SOME PROGRAMMING OR NO WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT FRM THE THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION AND WE'RE GOING TO PASS IT TO THE CHAMBER AND ASK THEM TO DO THAT. I WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT BECAUSE IN MY MIND AGAIN I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, I SEE DEI-B SERVE IT'S COURSE IN HUTTO BUT I THINK WHAT THE D EI-B HAS DONE IS UNCOVERED GAPS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY WHAT WE INITIALLY HAD DEI BE AND WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK OF IT AS, AND WE CAN UTILIZE SOME OF THAT IN THE LIBRARY AND WORK TO COME UP WITH DIFFERENT COMMUNITY BOARD. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WANTED TO GET YOUR INPUT AND THOUGHTS AND FEEL FREE TO YELL AT ME OR WHATEVER.

THROW STUFF, WHATEVER >> THANK YOU FOR THAT MAYOR AND I DO THINK AS A COUNCIL WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE MORE CONNECTED AND INVOLVED, AND I THANK COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS FOR BEING MORE PRESENT AT SOME OF THE COMMISSION MEETINGS.

I KNOW THE CHAIR DID TAKE A STEP BACK TO GET US BETTER ORIENTED AND MAKE SPACE FOR THEIR VISION AND LEADERSHIP AND BETTER IDEAS.

I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE BUDGET REDUCTION THEY REDUCED IT QUITE A BIT AND HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN LAWN TOUCHING GROUPS AND MADE AN EXCELLENT POINT ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY.

COLLABORATIVELY WE DO WORK WITH THE D I.V. COMMISSION WITH OTHER CITY ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDING THE LIBRARY BECAUSE IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCESS AND THE LIBRARY IS A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.

I AM A LIBRARY MEMBER AND IT'S GREAT FOR THE GROUPS THAT AND THE PROGRAMS THEY PUT ON BUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND THE DE EI B COMMISSION IS THEY ARE GOING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THAT IN ITSELF BREEDS MORE ACCESS AND EVEN JUST LEARN ABOUT THE THINGS THAT LIBRARY DOES. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP TO OUR SMALL WORKING GROUP THAT I REMEMBER THE LAY BRIAR SAYING, IF YOU HAVE A LIBRARY CARD YOU CAN ACCESS LINKED IN LEARNING AND THEY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT BUT THAT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND SOME OF THAT INFORMATION GETS SHARED THROUGH GROUPS LIKE THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER ABOUT THESE KIND OF ORGANIZATIONS NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR IS IT'S OFFERING MORE ENTRY POINTS FOR MORE PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE INFORMATION AND THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY, THROUGH THE LIBRARY, THROUGH THE CHAMBER. IT'S NEVER MEANT TO BE COMPETITIVE. BUT DIFFERENT ENTRY POINT AND MORE FACE-TO-FACE AND ACCESS INTO THE COMMUNITY.

THE SENIOR CITIZEN RESOURCE CENTER WORKING GROUP MAY HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE ALMOST 40 VENDORS.

34 VENDORS ALREADY SIGNED UP AT NO COST TO GIVE ACCESS TO SENIORS ON HOW TO GET THEIR HOMES REPAIRED TO HEALTHCARE AND FUNDING IS GOING TO BE THERE TO REPRESENT AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S AVAILABLE TO THEM. IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER AS A COUNCIL THE GREAT WORK WE DO AS A CITY AND THE INFORMATION THEY PUT OUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER JUST BECAUSE INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE OR A PROGRAM OR RESOURCE IS AVAILABLE AND WE'RE PUTTING IT OUT THERE THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM, WE SHOULDN'T ALWAYS ASSUME THE TARGET AUDIENCE WILL BE RECEIVING THE INFORMATION IN THE WAY WE INTEND AND WE CAN SEE THAT IN THE RISING NUMBER OF PARTICIPATION IN OUR WORKING GROUPS AND INCLUDING THE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN PUTTING TOGETHER AN AGENDA AND ORGANIZING THEMSELVES AND DOING THINGS OUT OF THEIR POCKET BECAUSE IT'S NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR AND WE'RE SEEING THE GAPS MET IN A WAY

THAT WASN'T MET BEFORE >> FIRST OFF THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT INSTEAD OF SENDING YOU GUYS OUT AND THEN ONCE A YEAR COMING IN AND SAYING HOW DID YOU DO, I DEFINITELY THINK IT SHOULD BE MORE.

IF THAT'S ONCE A QUARTER, IF IT'S EVERY OTHER MONTH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO YOU CAN GIVE MORE DIRECTION FOR YOU GUYS TO SAY THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON.

PUBLIC INFORMATION I ASKED THE BOARD OR THE COMMISSION REDI B IF YOU TOOK OUT THE THREE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE OVERLAPPING

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WHICH YOUR VETERANS AND SENIORS AND SMALL BUSINESSES I SAID WHAT IS THIS AND WHAT IS THE PURPOSE, RIGHT? AND IT INVOLVES WITH BELONGING AND THEN THEY HIT ME WITH AND I TOLD THEM THEY PULLED ON MY HEART STRIPS IS WORKING WITH NEURO DIVERGENCE AND WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT.

WE HAVE KIDS, I FORGET THE ACTUAL NUMBER THAT YOU GUYS SAID. THE PERCENTAGE WAS UNDER 18.

SO 15 PERCENT OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN HUTTO ALONE FOR KIDS UNDERNEATH 18 YEARS OF AGE AND SO WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS CREATING INITIATIVE TO CREATE MORE AWARENESS IN BUSINESSES AND MAYBE THAT'S THROUGH SCHOOLS OR MAYBE THAT'S THROUGH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND JUST MUCH LIKE THE PARK MAKING SURE THERE ARE SENSORY PRODUCTS THERE AVAILABLE FOR KIDS, AND SO THAT WAS KIND OF FOR ME THE MEAT OF OUR DIB. EVERYONE BELONGING AND IT MEANT A LOT TO ME. I HAVE A DAUGHTER ON THE SPECTRUM, AS WELL SO TO MAKE SURE THAT'S A FAR AS NEURO DIVERGENT TO RAISE AWARENESS WITHIN IT, AND IF WE CAN HELP YOU WITH DIRECTION MAYBE IT IS ONCE A QUARTER TO SAY LET'S FOCUS HERE AND KIND OF GIVE THEM MORE DIRECTION SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE HEADED AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION I HOPE WE'RE

HEADED. >> THOUGHTS ON THAT?

>> BASED ON THE WORKSESSION THAT WE HAD, THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL. IT REALLY BROADENED MY PERSPECTIVE FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND IT'S NOT ONE GROUP COMPETING AGAINST ANOTHER GROUP.

IT IS, AS YOU SAID, YOU ARE A CONDUIT FOR HOW YOU CAN BRING THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY TOGETHER WHO MAY NOT HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE OF WHERE TO GO OR WHO TO CONNECT WITH WITH.

SO I DO HAVE A BROADER VIEW OF WHAT THE GROUP DOES AND I THINK YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB AND I ALSO AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS AND THE MAYOR THAT MAYBE COMING TOGETHER ONCE A QUARTER, SO WE CAN COLLABORATE TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO REACH OUR COMMUNITY AND BE EXAMPLES THAT YOU GAVE OF HOW WHEN CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO, YOU BEING ABLE TO BE THAT VOICE FOR THEM AND POINT THEM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. NOT ONLY THAT, BUT TO EMPOWER THEM TO WITH A DIFFERENT GROUPS WHETHER IT'S THE VETERANS OR THE SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, HOW TO BRING THEM TOGETHER TO COLLABORATE TOGETHER TO GIVE THEM A FRAMEWORK AND FOUNDATION TO WHERE THEY CAN START SUPPORTING THEMSELVES.

FANTASTIC JOB. >> YEAH.

APOLOGY FIRST FOR THE DUPLICATION.

I'M SURE SOME OF THE THINGS I BROUGHT UP IS I ALSO TOO THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MORE UPDATES. IT WAS A QUALITY UPDATE.

WHATEVER THAT FREQUENCY IS BUT MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR SO AT LEAST TWICE A YEAR. I LOOK AT MY PERSONAL VIEWPOINT OF DEI-B AND HUTTO IS NOT DEI LIKE THE HR DEI AND WHAT THE COUNTRY AND POLITICALLY DIVISIVE STUFF IS.

IT'S NOT THAT AT ALL IN MY PERSONAL OPINION EVEN BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL. TO ME, ONE OF THE AND I'M SAYING THIS TO BE DONE BUT DETERMINING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WHAT GROUPS ARE UNDER REPRESENT REPRESENTED AND UNACKNOWLEDGED? ARE THEY EVEN HERE? MAYOR BROUGHT UP THAT WE HAVE 54 LANGUAGES SPOKEN IN THIS COMMUNITY. I LIKE THE FIRST LETTER OF DEI-B AND THE LAST. LIKE BRINGING BELONG TOGETHER THE DIVERSE AND SOMEONE SPOKE UP, NOT LEFT BEHIND.

THERE IS A MISSION STATEMENT ON THE BOARD AND COMMISSION AND THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT CREATES THIS.

IT'S ON 668 OF THE PACKET AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND COUNCIL AND ON BOARD AND COMMISSIONS TO REVIEW THAT BECAUSE I THINK DEI-B AS HUTTO, IN HUTTO CAN STILL EXIST.

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I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD THROW EVERYTHING OUT.

I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN REDIRECT AND YOU KNOW I'M NOT SAYING ANYONE ON THE COUNCIL SAID THIS OR ANYONE THAT I TALKED WITH ON THE REDI B COMMISSION HAS BUT I THINK BETTER DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AND OR STAFF AND OR INDIVIDUALS AND AGAIN I'M NOT, JACQUELINE TO MS. COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA AND NOW HIS TEAM OF PEOPLE HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.

JUST MAYBE WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE TOO DILUTE AND FOCUS MORE ON WHAT ARE THE GAP IF WE TOOK DIB OUT THAT WOULD CREATE A GAP SO I DON'T WANT TO RECREATE BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND ALL THE NEW GAPS HERE. WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE? I AM NOT HERE TO DEFINE THAT BUT I THINK THE CITY COUNCIL ALONG WITH CITY STAFF SHOULD DEFINITELY REVIEW THE ORDINANCE AND THE MISSION AND GOALS AND VISION, PURPOSE AND MIX STATEMENTS THAT WE HAVE AND, THEN AND THEN AND THEN HAVE THE COUNCIL GIVE BETTER DIRECTION IN COLLABORATION WITH THE BOARD AND COMMISSION AND THINK IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.

THIS MAY TAKE SIX TO 12 MONTH BUT WHAT DO WE FOCUS ON RIGHT NOW? I'M NOT TRYING TO DEFINE THOSE BUT LET'S RE-PRIORITIZE WHAT WE NEED TO GO AFTER, AND THEN COUNCIL AND STAFF PROVIDE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE DIB, JUST TELL

ME TO SHUT UP. >> BELL.

>> SORRY. AND REFOCUS THE GROUP INTO WHAT WE NEED TO DO BEST FOR RIGHT NOW, SO I SUPPORT YOU 100% BUT MAYBE NOT IN THE WAY WE ALL PERCEIVE IT NOW.

WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE ACCURATE.

>> I'M THINKING WE MAKE A MOTION IF I GET A SECOND I'LL EXPLAIN IT BUT MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CHANGE THE NAME TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION AND CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE TONIGHT OF THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE PART OF THAT TO WORK WITH THEM, THEY ALSO BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE WORK GROUPS THAT THEY WANT TO FOCUS ON NEXT YEAR.

AND IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL IN AN UPCOMING MEETING CHANGES THE CHARGE OF THE LIBRARY TO ADD IN SOME OF THE DEI WORK THAT WE FEEL NEEDS TO BE HAPPENING AND TO THAT SINCE WE KNOW THAT.

>> COULD YOU SAY THE NAME AGAIN? >> COMMUNITY SERVICES

COMMISSION. >> COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION. WELL I'LL SECOND IT TO SEE

WHAT'S GOING ON. >> OKAY

>> BECAUSE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE AND I DO AGREE THERE ARE GAP AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY NECESSARILY NEED TO FILL THEM AS MUCH AS RECOGNIZE THEM AND BRING THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE DOWN SOINL HOW TO FILL THE GAPS WHETHER THROUGH THEM OR ANOTHER ORGANIZATION OR THE STANDING UP OF ANOTHER ORGANIZATION BUT I THINK A SUBCOMMITTEE OF I WOULD SAY THE MAYOR PRO-TEM AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE PART OF THAT, MEET WITH THEM TO REALLY RECOGNIZE THE WORK GROUPS AND HAVE, INSTEAD OF THEM WORKING UP-AND-COMING UP WITH THINGS TO DO WE NEED BACK AND FORTH.

WHETHER THEY DECIDE THIS NEEDS TO BE QUARTERLY OR WHATEVER IT IS, WE WOULD DO THAT TO HAVE WORKING GROUPS AND THEN WE CAN HAVE PLANNING AND RESOURCES ALLOCATED TO, OR NEXT TIME WE HAVE THE AMERICAN LEAGUE ON COME UP OR ONE OF OUR OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, TALK TO THEM ON HEY, THESE ARE GAPS WE'RE SEEING AND HOW ARE YOU WORKING TO FIX THEM AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SUBCOMMITTEE IF THIS PASSES TO WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE ON HOW DO WE FILL THE GAP OF PEOPLE FROM ALL THESE COUNTRIES SPEAKING 54 LANGUAGES AND EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING IS GREAT BUT THE PERSON THAT, I MEAN WHEN WE THINK OF ESL WE THINK OF PEOPLE THAT SPEAK SPANISH NOT PEOPLE THAT SPEAK FAR SIAKIM SO HOW DOES SOMEONE THAT SPEAKS THAT INTEGRATE INTO A SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT'S CONCENTRATED ON ENGLISH AND SPANISH BUT NOBODY IS WORKING ON KOREAN OR MANDARIN.

I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU HAVE A WORKING GROUP REALLY ON HOW DO WE INTEGRATE 54 LANE IMMIGRATION GAS TO COME IN SO THEY COME INTO CITY HALL AND THEY WANT TO ATTEND AND THING LIKE THAT.

NOT SAYING THE OTHER GROUPS SHOULDN'T HAVE FOCUS TOO BUT IN MY FIND WE TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE SMALL BUSINESS AND START PUSHING THAT ON THE CHAMBER AND WE WOULD TAKE THE VETERANS ISSUE AND FIND OUT WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO JOIN THE AMERICAN LEGION. DO THEY NOT KNOW IT.

SOME DIDN'T THINK THEY COULD BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT IN ACTIVE

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THEATRE AND REALIZED YOU ARE A VETERAN AND A VETERAN IS A VETERAN. SO WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS AND THEN ANYTHING THAT BECOMES A SEPARATE THING FROM THE COUNCIL IS TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THE LIBRARY BECAUSE JUST LIKE THIS GROUP, TO ME THE LIBRARY IS KIND OF GONE BEYOND CHECKING OUT BOOKS AND READING MATERIAL AND GONE THROUGH DIVERSITY THINGS AND MAKE SURE THAT'S WHERE THEY ARE ALREADY KIND OF INTO THAT AND MAYBE WE CAN PUSH THINGS WE SEE AS AN ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO WORK ON, WE CAN CHARGE THEM WITH THAT AND THAT WAY WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSION. IT WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE THAT I'VE EVER HEARD OF BUT REALLY TASKED WITH HELPING TO GET ALL THESE PEOPLE INTO THE CITY TO ACTUALLY REALLY FIND THE GAPS AND FILL THEM AND THEN REALLY FOCUS YOU GUYS ON LET IT BE THREE OR FOUR GROUPS BUT FOCUS ON THAT AND THAT WAY WE KNOW AND YOU GUYS ARE MEETING QUARTERLY AND THAT WAY WE CAN SUBCOMMITTEES ARE BRILLIANT IN TERMS OF GETTING THINGS TO MOVE FASTER. WHAT'S TERRIBLE IS WHEN YOU HAVE TO COME UP AND MEET IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AND WE HAVE TO DO ALL THIS AND YOU DO THAT QUARTERLY OR YEARLY.

THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M THINKING.

OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND AS WE BRING THIS UP I'M THINKING WE WORK ON THE MESSAGE BOARD IN TERMS OF HOW WE REWRITE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE GROUP AND WE DO THE TRANSITION THAT WAY IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY WILL FILL A BUNCH OF NEED AND GAPS AND

IDENTIFY THEM. >> THAT'S MY CURIOSITY IS THAT WE DO HAVE AN ORDINANCE. THAT SAYS THIS IS HERE BY CREATED DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COMMISSION OF THE CITY SO WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE CREATING SOMETHING.

CAN WE RENAME IT? >> ESSENTIALLY WE'D DO AWAY WITH

THIS AND THEN CREATING SERVICES. >> WE HAVE TO RESCIND IT OR

MODIFY AND CREATE A NEW ONE? >> YES.

>> IS I DON'T KNOW IS THIS A QUESTION FOR LEGAL.

WE NEED A VOTE TO CREATE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMISSION AFTER THAT VOTE DO WE THEN MAKE A MOTION FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WE WANT FOR SAYING THERE'S THREE OR IS THAT A PART OF THIS.

WILL THERE BE A NOMINATION FOR THREE?

>> HOW THE SUBCOMMITTEES WORK IS, I SAY HEY, WE NEED A SUBCOMMITTEE AND THEN GERALD WILL YOU DO IT OR DOES ANYONE WANT TO DO IT AND THE FIRST THREE UNLESS WE HAVE TO ARM WRESTLE THE FIRST THREE, WOULD BE THE PEOPLE ON IT.

>> TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. >> YES.

>> WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MOVE ON IT TONIGHT?

>> TONIGHT. >> SUBCOMMITTEES ARE APPOINTED

BY MAYOR. >> NO BUT I CAN ASK.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO. VERY RARELY DO WE HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE RAISE THEIR HANDS THAT WANT TO.

>> I WANT TO. >> I WOULD NOMINATE.

>> SUBCOMMITTEE. >> SAME.

SO FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO BE PART OF THE COMMITTEE.

I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE D EI-B COMMISSION FOR A VERY LONG TIME SO I WANT TO STAY AND CONTINUE TO DO IT WORK AND TO DO IT INTENTIONALLY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER ADDS MORE TO THIS AND ACCOUNTABILITY ON MY PART TO STAY CONNECTED WITH THEIR WORK AND SUPPORT THEM. I HAVE QUESTIONS.

ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IS EXPLAIN WHY YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME.

NOW YOU SAY YOU THINK THAT THE D EI-B WORK IS BEING DONE AND I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC. THERE IS MORE THAN ONE GROUP LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION AND THE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSE POPULATION THAT MUST BE INCLUDED TO HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO RESOURCES SO WE CREATE A SENSE OF BELONGING. THE YOU BELONG IN HUTTO, THEY TALKED ABOUT IT WHEN THEY SHOWED THE BIG SIGN IN DOWNTOWN WAS YOU BELONG IN HUTTO. I WOULD CAUTION THIS COUNCIL TO NOT BE SO QUICK TO DISMISS OR BE SHY OF THE TERMS DEI JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A POLITICAL TENSION AROUND IT, I THINK AS A CITY WE'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB OF MAINTAINING COMMISSION THAT IS FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE PEOPLE FEEL INCLUDED AND COMPLETELY KEEPING THE POLITICS OUT OF IT. I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN PEOPLE AND MY NEIGHBORS HAVE NOT BEEN AFFECTED BY NOT BEING PART OF WHAT'S CONSIDERED A DIVERSE GROUP IT'S VERY EASILY TO DISMISS IT AS SOMETHING THREATENING OR FOR SOMEONE THAT'S NEVER PARTICIPATED TO ALSO DISMISS IT AS BEING SOMETHING KIND OF NEFARIOUS OR DYE DIVIDING WHEN IF ANYBODY WILL COME TO THEIR MEETINGS THEY WOULD SEE THE OPPOSITE.

IT'S VERY INCLUSIVE AND OPEN AND WELCOMING SO PEOPLE DO FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING IN THE CITY OF HUTTO SO I CAUTION THE

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COUNCIL TO NOT BE SO QUICK TO DO AWAY WITH THE TERMS. YOU HAVE A SENSE OF BELONGING HERE IN HUTTO SO I DON'T HAVE A STRONG OBJECTION TO CHANGING IT TO COMMUNITY SERVICES AS LONG AS THE OPERATIONAL ASPECT AND THE PURPOSE STAYS IN TACT WHICH IS WHY I VOLUNTEER TO HELP BUT I WANT TO BRING THAT UP AS A POINT. TO NOT BE SO EASILY SWAYED BY THE POLITICS AROUND THE TERM AND REALLY THINK WHY WE CREATED IT THAT WAY IN THE FIRST PLACE AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VERY CONSCIOUS OF NOT TRYING TO FUNNEL ALL THE SERVICES INTO THESE SMALL AREAS. I UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR'S POINT THAT THEY ARE ALREADY DOING SOME OF THIS BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING THE COMMISSION IS TO ALLOW MORE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS RESOURCE, SO IF WE TRY TO MAKE THIS COMMISSION'S POINT TO FUNNEL THOSE SERVICE TO ONLY PRIMARY THE LIBRARY OR ONLY PRIMARILY THE CHAMBER WHETHER WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE PURPOSE OF THE GROUP. WE'RE HINDERING ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES, INFORMATION AND SERVICES THAT THE ORGANIZATIONS ARE MEANT TO DELIVER AND IT TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHICH IS TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE

>> I DON'T WANT TO STEER THINGS JUST TO THE LIBRARY.

THAT'S MORE IF THERE IS DEI IF WE'RE HONEST WITH OURSELVES.

WHAT PERCENT OF THE POPULATION IS 100 PERCENT TRIGGERED BY DEI?

>> VERY POLITICAL CALL. WOULD IT BE 30 PERCENT OF

PEOPLE? >> IS THERE A SURVEY SOMEWHERE?

>> HERE'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. IF WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION CALLED D E LY AND 40% OF THE PEOPLE ARE DEAD SET AGAINST IT BUT THEY ARE NOT DOING DEI WORK BUT THEY ARE WORKING WITH VETERANS AND SMALL BUSINESSES, THEN REALLY WE'RE TURNING OFF 40% OF THE POPULATION SAYING DEI, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR SMALL BUSINESS WHEN IN REALITY THEY ARE NOT DOING

DEI WORK. >> THAT'S THE DEFINITION.

>> NOT ACCORDING TO THE COMMISSION WE SET UP.

IT DEALS WITH RACE, RELIGION, ETHNICITY AND THAT'S NOT, WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE. NOW WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FILLING BIGGER GAPS OF DIFFERENT THINGS WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT AND THAT'S WHY I SAY THE NAME WOULD IT BE 30 OR 40% OF THE PEOPLE.

THERE WAS A BOARD MEMBER I PUSHED TO PUT ON THERE BECAUSE SHE HAD A VIEW THAT WAS CONTRARY.

IT CAUSED A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ON THE COMMISSION TO QUIT AND THE REASON I WANTED HER ON THERE WAS BECAUSE I TOLD HER, YOU REPRESENT 30, 40% OF THE PEOPLE WHATEVER IT WAS, AND IF YOU GET ON THERE THEN YOU CAN SHARE YOUR VIEWS AND LEARN FROM OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE CAN LEARN FROM YOU AND REALIZE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DISAGREEMENTS. WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO AGREE BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE EVERYONE BAD PEOPLE AND WE GOT TO GET TO A POINT IN THIS COMMUNITY IN MY OPINION TO NOT LOOK AT PEOPLE DIFFERENT BY THE WAY THEY LOOK OR THEY, THEIR FEELINGS OR THE POLITICAL THING BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS KICKED UP IS POLITICAL DISCRIMINATION, AND IF YOU PUT A TRUMP SIGN IN YOUR YARD THAT MAY MAKE YOU A TERRIBLE PERSON TO SOME PEOPLE AND OTHER PEOPLE, YOU JUST HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS THAT PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH AND WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE WAY IT USED TO BE WHERE WHOEVER YOU SUPPORT IS WHO YOU SUPPORT BUT SOMETHING HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST TEN OR SO YEARS WHERE NOW WE'RE PUTTING PEOPLE IN THESE GROUPS AND NOW WE HAVE OTHER GROUPS POPPING UP AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERIENCE OF THAT GROUP TO BE PART OF THAT GROUP OTHERWISE, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THERE.

WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENED IS WE'RE ALMOST SEGREGATING OUR SOCIETY MORE AND I THOUGHT THE INTENT WAS TO NOT HAVE ALL THE GROUPS BUT IF WE HAVE A WORKING GROUP CALLED SMALL BUSINESS I DON'T SEE THAT'S A SEGREGATION. THAT'S JUST A DIFFERENT GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALL DIVERSE AND HOW DO WE HELP THEM AND GET THE 30 TO 40% TURNED OFF RIGHTLY OR WRONGLY BY DEI.

I'VE SUPPORTED IT SINCE WE HAD IT AND PART OF THE COMMISSION WANTED TO DISBAND IT AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WANTED TO DO AWAY WITH IT. I THOUGHT I WISH HE WOULD SUE BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IS TO ME WE'RE NOT DOING THE D EI WORK SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN.

SINCE THE LIBRARY HAS ALREADY ENGAGED IN THE WORK.

I TALKED TO THE CITY MANAGER. WHAT IS GOING ON WHY IS THE LIBRARY INVOLVED IN THIS. I THINK WE CAN DO THINGS THERE AND EMPOWER THIS COMMISSION WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE TO WHERE IT'S ALMOST MORE POWERFUL. AND GET THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY ARE AFRAID TO TALK TO US UP HERE TO GO, YOU ARE A SIMPLE MINDED PERSON? HE MAY DRIVE A CRAZY LOOKING TRUCK, NOW HE'S A NORMAL GUY. GET TO KNOW HIM AND YOU'LL FIND

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OUT HEY, OVER HERE THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT THAT BAD AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF US DISLIKE THE GOVERNMENT JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE BUT WE CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF IT WE NEED AND DON'T.

THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING. I DON'T WANT TO PUSH THING OFF BUT I DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE AND WE HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE GROUP AND THE BOARD AND THE OTHER GROUPS IN THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE FEELS INCLUDED.

I JUST WANT TO PUSH OUT THE LIBRARY.

>> I THINK FOR ME, YOU BELONG IS STILL THE SLOGAN.

THAT'S EVERYONE. THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE SO SOMEONE MAY BE BIGGER AS FAR AS HIPPOS GO.

THE WAY I SEE THIS AND WHAT MY HOPE IS AND THINKING SIMPLE MINDED BUT BIG PICTURE THE GROUP ITSELF MAY BE LIMITED A SMALLER SUBGROUP IF IT'S IN DEI AND THIS GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO SPREAD YOUR LEGS AND RUN AND GO. YOU KNOW, JUST GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO STRETCH THEM OUT AND REACH OUT TO OTHER AREAS AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT COMING BACK AND SAYING WORKING WITH VETERAN AND THERE'S OVER LAP AND SENIOR AND THERE'S OVER LAP AND THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. SEEING HOW WE CAN WORK WITH NEURO DIVERGENT. GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO SAY, WELL NOW YOU ARE SUBJECT MATTER MATERIAL UNDER EXPERTS.

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK AND ALRIGHT IF THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, GO GET IT AND THIS GIVES THE ABILITY TO SAY YOU ARE NO LONGER BOUND TO THIS ORDINANCE OF WHAT ONCE WAS ONLY THROUGH LIKE RACE INCLUSION AND ALL THAT.

NOW IT'S EVERYTHING. IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO THESE FOLKS OVER HERE ARE NOT INCLUDED AND WE WANT TO GET THEM IN THE GROUP. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EQUALITY OR IT BUT EVERYTHING DO WITH THESE PEOPLE ARE HUTTO CITIZENS.

LET'S HELP THEM OUT. MAKE THE GROUP BIGGER.

THIS WILL BE A LARGER SCHEME AND YOU ARE TAKING POLITICAL THEATRE

FROM IT. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I DID WANT TO ANSWER ONE POINT TO THE MAYOR ABOUT THE WORKING GROUPS BEING CALLED VETERANS AND SMALL BUSINESSES AND SENIORS BUT I WAS PART OF THE WORK OF DETERMINING WHY THOSE GROUPS WERE CATEGORIZED THAT WAY AND IT WAS FOR THE REASON YOU SAID TO STAY AWAY FROM CATEGORIZING PEOPLE FROM RACE, COLOR OR RELIGION OR POLITICS AND WE CHOSE AGREE GROUPS THAT ARE OFFER A DEGREE OF INTERSECTIONALITY OF PEOPLE.

IF YOU ARE A VETERAN YOU MIGHT ALSO BE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER OR ALSO BE PART OF A CERTAIN TYPE OF CHURCH.

YOU MAY BE A CERTAIN RACE OR PART OF ANOTHER GROUP THAT'S JUST FOR PEOPLE FROM THAT BACKGROUND BUT THERE IS A LOT OF INTERSECTIONALITY THERE. IF YOU ARE A MALL BUSINESS OWNER IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR SKIN COLOR OR POLITICS ARE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR AGE IS, WHAT MATTERS YOU A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HUTTO AND GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH OTHER PEOPLE TO CHALLENGE YOU TO HAVE MORE CONNECTIVITY IN THE CITY SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE PUT THAT OUT THERE THAT THE GROUPS ARE FORMED THAT WAY BECAUSE IT TOUCHES A LARGE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN HUTTO. THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR OF THIS COMBHIKS, COMMISSION PUTTING TOGETHER GREAT BUDGET AND REDUCING THE COST WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE STATED CONTINUE TO REDUCE THE COST OF US IS STAINING THE COMMISSION WHICH I THINK IS BRILLIANT THAT ALLOWS THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION AND BELONGING AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO RESOURCES WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I WANT TO ANSWER WHY THEY ARE NOT DIVIDED THAT WAY AND THERE ARE OTHER GROUPS THAT A LINE IN OTHER WAY AND THAT'S FINE TOO AND THEY MAY BE SENIORS OR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OR VETERAN BUT

THEY WERE FORMED THAT WAY. >> YEAH.

AS IT IS RIGHT NOW I WOULD NOT VOTE FOR THIS MOTION.

I THINK WE ALL INCLUDING MYSELF PRIMARILY IS THAT WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HAVE READ THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.

IT'S AN ORDINANCE 202002-102.1. WHAT IS STILL APPLICABLE IN THIS ORDINANCE? WHAT IS NOT? WHAT NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED UPON? WHAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED SO I'M ALL FOR A SUBCOMMITTEE AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE REVIEWING THIS AND SEE WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE IT IN ANOTHER DIRECTION AND AGAIN I'M NOT, IT'S NOT, DEMERIT ON ANYONE INVOLVED IN THIS.

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STAFF, CITY COUNCIL, PAST, PRESENT FUTURE AND BOARDS AND CHAIRS OF BOARDS. I THINK WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE WANT TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR EVERY CITIZEN IN HUTTO AND THAT'S YOUR THING. WE WANT TO BELONG.

SO WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE? I THINK WE NEED TO READ THE ORDINANCE BEFORE WE START MAKING, TO ME THE NAME IS A NAME AND WE HAVE CHANGED IT THREE TIMES.

GOING FOR FOURTH TIME AND DECIDED NOT TO AND THAT BECAME OUR SLOGAN AND NOW WE'RE TALKING A FIFTH TIME SO I'M NOT CAUGHT UP IN THE NAMES. I'M A DIFFERENT PERSON.

I MEAN ALL PEOPLE ARE ALL EQUAL PEOPLE PERIOD.

I WAS BROUGHT UP THAT WAY AND MY FAMILY AND NOT SAYING ANYONE ELSE ISN'T HERE, BUT I DON'T MIND COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMITTEE AS A NAME BUT IS CHANGING THE NAME WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR OR ARE WE TRYING TO REDIRECT THE COMMISSION?

>> I'M INTENDING TO REWRITE THE ORDINANCE AND REDIRECT THE COMMISSION BASED ON THE SUBCOMMITTEES COLLABORATION WITH

THE GROUP. >> I MISUNDERSTOOD.

>> IT IS A NAME CHANGE AND A DIRECTION CHANGE BASED ON WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING WITH THE PEOPLE COME BACK ON.

>> OKAY. >> IF IT DOES PASS, RIGHT? THE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOARD GET TO CONTINUE TO

STAY ON THEIR BOARD? >> I DON'T KNOW WHY NOT.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST A NAME CHANGE BUT DOING AWAY WITH ONE AND CREATING NEW ONE. LAST TIME WE NEVER COLLABORATED BEFORE WE JUST KIND OF DID IT AND NOW THIS IS MORE, HERE'S THE BEGINNING OF A NEW CHANGE AND NOW SUBCOMMITTEE WORK WITH THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND WHAT THE WORKING GROUPS ARE STARTING OFF AND TO WORK THAT WAY TO WHERE WE DON'T

LOSE MOMENTUM. >> YOU HAVE LIMITING YOUR ABILITIES TO HELP MORE PEOPLE, THE NEW ORDINANCE WILL HELP

MORE? >> THIS IS DOT 207 THAT SAYS, COMMISSION COMES ONE IDEAS AND COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTS YOU HOW TO ACTION ON THAT.

THAT'S HOW I READ THIS AS A NON-LEGAL PERSON.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S HAPPENING WAY WE THINK IT WILL HAPPEN.

I THINK IT HAPPENS MORE IMPLICITLY.

WE BOUNCE THINGS OFF HERE AND THERE BUT DO WE GOAT A FORMAL UNDERSTANDING BY CITY COUNCIL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND DOES THAT ALIGN WITH THE MISSION AND THE PURPOSE AND THE GOALS AND THE ORDINANCE? AND THEN HOW DO WE BEST DO THAT? HOW DOES CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF GIVE THE BEST RESOURCES TO GET THAT ACCOMPLISHED AND WE NEED TO REWRITE AND REVIEW THIS ORDINANCE AND THE WEB PAGE FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE GOAL OF THE

MISSION >> SO I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION THE WAY IT'S STATED AT ALL.

I DO THINK THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY MEET QUARTERLY AT LEAST, AND IF THERE IS A SUBCOMMITTEE I'D LIKE TO BE ON IT. AS FAR AS HELPING TO ALTER THE DIRECTION IF THERE ARE THINGS WE WANT TO CHANGE, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. IF WE WANTED TO ADJUST THINGS BUT I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE APPROVED THE STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THIS COMMISSION. IT INCLUDES THE WORKING GROUPS.

SO THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO AND WE'RE SEEING RESULTS NOW AND SOME RESULTS THAT WE THEY ARE MAYBE SOME DUPLICATION AND MAYBE SOME BETTER COORDINATION IS POSSIBLE.

AVOIDING DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS ARE DEFINITELY WORTH LOOKING INTO AND TRYING TO FIX, SO I'M NOT SAYING KEEP EVERYTHING THE WAY IT IS, I'M SAYING WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT HOW TO ADDRESS THIS AND MAKE IT BETTER AND HOW DO WE, IF WE SEE GAPS NOT ADDRESSED, HOW DO WE GET THE COMMISSION TO START WORKING ON THOSE GAPS. IF THERE ARE THINGS THEY ARE DOING THAT WE THINK THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING AND WE WANT TO DIRECT THEM TO STOP, THAT'S WITHIN OUR ABILITY TO ASK THEM TO STOP WORKING IN THOSE AREAS. I DON'T WANT US TO JUST ABRUPTLY STOP BUT TO MAKE SURE IF WE'RE STOPPING SOMETHING IT'S FOR A REASON. WE IDENTIFIED THEY ARE DUPLICATING SOMEBODY ELSE'S WORK.

WE'RE FINDING A WAY TO STILL MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE BEING SERVED. BUT YEAH, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING TO ADJUST AND TO KEEP FINE TUBING AS WE GO.

I DON'T THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO THROW OUT AND START OVER SO I'M NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

>> I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON.

I MEAN, I BELIEVE WE SHOULD REVIEW AND A LOT OF TIMES IN THE

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BOARD AND COMMISSIONS COUNCIL SHOULD DIRECT STAFF AND THE BOARDS TO KIND OF REVIEW THE PURPOSE OF THE GOALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO TO ME THAT'S ON COUNCIL AND MYSELF AND PAST AND PRESENT AND FUTURE. SO I'M ALL FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND I'D LOVE TO BE ON THERE. I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DIB FOR MOST OF THIS YEAR PROBABLY HITTING AT LEAST EVERY OTHER MEETING BUT LATELY MORE THAN THAT, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO BE

VOTING FOR THIS. >> YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON, ALSO REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT NOT ONLY HAS THE COMMISSION ACCOMPLISHED WHAT THEY SAID THEY WOULD AND WHAT WAS APPROVED THEY WERE INTENTION TOLL MAKE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE LINE ITEM THEY ARE ASKING SUPPORT ON IS TIED BACK TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH IS TIED BACK TO THE CITY'S OVERALL PLAN SO THEY ARE VERY INTENTIONAL TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALIGNED AS A CITY WHAT WE HAVE AGREEED IS IMPORTANT MATTERS TO OUR RESIDENT, SO THERE'S NO SEPARATION THERE.

THEY ARE DO DOING THE WORK WE FORMED AND EXPECTED THEM TO DO.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DISRUPTIVE RIGHT NOW.

NOW TO BE MORE FAIR, WE WOULD START THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND START WITH THE MORE FREQUENT REPORTING AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA THAT WAY WE HAVE MORE ACCOUNTABILITY TO SUPPORT THEM AND THEIR WORK, BUT REDOING THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE MORE DISRUPTIVE THAN HELPFUL, AND IF WE WANT TO BE REALLY BALANCED WITH IT WE SAY, LET'S GET THIS GOING AND IN A YEAR WE COME BACK AND REVIEW AND DO CHECK AND BALANCES ON WHETHER THE CHANGES OF ADDING THE MORE INTENTIONAL ORGANIZATION AND MORE STRU TO OURED WAY OF COMMUNICATING AS THE INTENTION OR HAS THE THING

ACCOMPLISHED WE INTENDED. >> IS IT THE PURPOSE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO HELP DIB OR THE PURPOSE OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO HELP AND JOIN WITH THE BOARD. IT WILL BE TWO SEPARATE?

>> SUBCOMMITTEE, MAKE NO MISTAKE.

WE'RE NOT DOING DEI WORK SO I'M LOOKING AT NOT DOING THAT.

THIS BOARD IS THEY WANT TO FOCUS ON THESE WORKING GROUPS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN ADD THEM AND THEN CALL IT DEI WORK WHEN YOU ARE MISSING OUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED THAT ARE BEING LEFT OUT. AND SO TO ME THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS THERE TO HELP ORGANIZE A DIFFERENT BOARD AND TO BRING BACK THE CHANGES TO THE COUNCIL OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE SEATS LOOK LIKE. IF WE GO, I MEAN IF WE GO A DIFFERENT ROUTE ALL WE'LL DO IS SAY WE HAVE A DEI DOING NON D EI WORK LEAVING PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO ADOPT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET AROUND.

WE'RE HITTING THE BIG GROUPS AND TO ME THERE'S A LOT OF OVER LAP AND I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING THOSE BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ASK AMERICAN LEGION HOW CAN WE HELP YOU SOLVE THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE BEING LEFT OUT.

GO TO A SCHOOL AND I MEAN HOW MANY KIDS ARE NOT ABLE TO EVEN, I MEAN HOW THEY PASS AN ENGLISH CLASS IS WHEN THE TEACHERS DON'T KNOW THE LANGUAGE THE KIDS SPEAK AND MY KIDS CAN COME HOME AND ASK FOR HELP BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT THESE KIDS COME HOME AND THEIR PARENTS ARE STRUGGLING AND THEY ARE ON THEIR OWN AND MAYBE WHY OUR TEST SCORES AS A DISTRICT ARE LOWER BECAUSE WE'RE SO FOCUSED ON SPANISH AND E SL SPANISH TO ENGLISH WE FORGET THERE'S 53 OTHER LANGUAGE THAT NOBODY IS REACHING OUT SAYING HEY, HERE'S WHAT OUR SUNSET BASH IS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS BECAUSE WHERE THEY COME FROM THAT'S NOT SOME THING THEY DO.

THAT'S DEI WORK AND THE LIBRARY IS DOING A LOT OF TO THAT I'M HOPING THE SUBCOMMITTEE DOES WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING.

WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE HERE, THIS BOARD BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING GOOD WORK AND HERE'S THE CHANGES.

BECAUSE IF THE SEVEN OF US TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE CHANGE ON OUR OWN IT WILL TAKE THREE YEARS TO GET IT DONE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET PAST THE THING AND TO ME WE JUST NEED TO HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE GO OKAY WE WANT TO DO WORKING GROUP AND ADD IN OTHER ONE AND HERE'S THE FOCUS OF THE WORKING GROUP AND HERE'S WHAT WE THINK THE COUNCIL SHOULD SUPPORT.

THEY ASKED FOR $1250 FOR EACH WORKING GROUP BUT DO WE WANT THE MONEY SPENT ON THAT OR JUST THE IDEA AND GO TO THE AMERICAN LEGION OR GO TO THE CHAMBER. AND THEN IS THERE A WORKING GROUP THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND TALKING TO THEM IS LIKE THIS IS ACTUALLY A MORE IMPORTANT PRESSING ISSUE, WHICH MAY BE THE

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NEURO DIVERGENCE ISSUE. SO THAT SHOULD BE A WORKING GROUP AND HOW DO WE DO THAT OR WHATEVER, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU GOT TO GET ON TO THE PUBLIC AND FIND OUT BUT THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE SUBCOMMITTEE WILL DO IF THIS PASSES IS TO WORK ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN UP HERE LONG ENOUGH.

WE WON'T GET ANYTHING DONE IF WE INDIVIDUALLY TRY TO PIECE THIS TOGETHER OR BAND-AID ON AN EXISTING ORDINANCE MEANT FOR DIVERSITY AND DEI AND THEN TRY TO CHANGE THAT SO SOMETHING ELSE. I GUESS IN WAY DO WHAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WORK ON THE BIGGER THINGS IN WORKING GROUPS AND GO DO THAT. AND NOT GIVE UP ON D EI BUT SAY THE LIBRARY IS ALREADY DOING THIS AND HAVE PROGRAMS AND SPEAKERS THAT COME IN AND LOSE SOME OF THAT TO THAT GROUP SO YOU ARE NOT GIVING UP ANYTHING, YOU ARE JUST KIND OF PRIORITIZING AND LIKE YOU SAID, EXPANDING WHAT WE ARE DOING.

WHEN JIM READS THE ORDINANCE WE ARE WAY OUTSIDE THE ORDINANCE.

WE'RE JUST WAY OUTSIDE IT SO WE CAN DO ONE OF TWO THING AND SAY STOP DOING ALL THE WORKING GROUPS AND STICK TO THE ORDINANCE. OR WE CAN SAY HOW DO WE ADDRESS DEI ISSUES IN OUR CITY? DO WE HAVE THOSE THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND WHAT ARE THEY AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THOSE, AND HAVE A DIFFERENT GROUP THAT WILL WORK ON THE WORKING GROUPS IS

WHERE I REALLY THINK. >> JUST TO CLARIFY.

WE DON'T NEED A MOTION TO CREATE A SUBCOMMITTEE.

WE CAN STILL DO THAT AND THE MAYOR PROVIDES THAT OR VOLUNTEERS BUT THAT GETS CREATED AND I ENVISION THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WORKING IN WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, WHAT THE COMMISSION THE INFORMATION THEY HAVE PROVIDED AND THEN THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL UNDERSTANDING WHAT THEY WANT AND WORKING WITH THE CITY STAFF. THAT IS THE SUBCOMMITTEE.

HOW DO WE PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE.

I'M CONCERNED AS COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON SAYS I DON'T WANT TO START FROM SCRATCH. THAT'S WHAT CONCERNS ME AND THAT'S WHERE I SAY I'M LEANING AGAINST.

>> YOU CAN DUPLICATE THINGS. SUBCOMMITTEE IS ONLY PART OF THE MOTION TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THE PURPOSE IS.

WHAT MY WHOLE THING HERE IS BUT I THINK SUBCOMMITTEE WILL COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT PARTS NEED TO STAY AND WHAT DON'T.

OTHERWISE, BUT I DO THINK THE D EI PART GOES AWAY AS THIS BOARD.

THERE WOULD BE DEI WORK IN THERE BECAUSE THERE WILL BE OTHER WORKING GROUPS LIKE THE NEURO DIVERGENCE WOULD BE SOMEWHAT OF A DEI THING. SAY WE'RE WORKING WITH A SMALL BUSINESS WE HAVE TO BE THE ONLY DEI COMMISSION THAT INCLUDES SMALL BUSINESS AND NETWORKING AND THINGS.

THAT'S NOT DEI WORK. THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE AND THAT'S WHY CHAT GPT WHAT CAN YOU COME UP WITH.

COMMUNITY SERVICES. THAT WOULD BE A COMMUNITY SERVICE THING SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A COMPLETE THROW AWAY BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP PARTS OF IT, WHOEVER IS ON THE, WELL THE SUBCOMMITTEE, BUT ASSUMING WE GET TO THAT POINT.

>> WELL, AS I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSION AND CONVERSATION GOING ON, I DON'T SEE THAT THE CHANGING OF THE NAME TO COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION AS SAYING, THROW EVERYTHING OUT, THROW EVERYTHING AWAY AND START OVER.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING. WHAT I'M HEARING IS IF WE RENAME IT TO THE COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION, IT TAKES AWAY THE POLITICAL STING OF DEI-B AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE THERE ARE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT YOU EVEN MENTION IT AND THEY GET FIRED UP.

JUST WITH SAYING DEI-B. THIS COMMISSION IS NOT DOING WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THEY'VE BEEN GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AND BEING ALL INCLUSIVE. YOU KNOW SO MY PERSPECTIVE ON THIS IS ISN'T TO THROW EVERYTHING AWAY OR TO REWRITE EVERYTHING, BUT TO TAKE THE STIGMA OUT OF DEI-B OUT BY SAYING COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION.

>> AND EXPAND ON WHAT'S ALREADY CURRENTLY THERE.

>> EXACTLY. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL MEMBER KING. I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU SAID THERE IS A LARGE POPULATION THAT'S VERY ANTI-WORD DEI BUT EQUALLY LARGE PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT IS NOT TRIGGERED BY

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THOSE WORDS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY MEAN BY DIVERSITY AND EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND HAVING DIVERSE AND EQUITABLE COMMUNITIES IS NOT TAKING FROM ONE GROUP TO ANOTHER AND THAT'S WHERE WE RUN INTO THE STAYING MA.

SOME PEOPLE FEEL IF YOU TALK ABOUT DEI SOMEBODY LOSES OUT AND THAT'S A FALSE POSITION TO TAKE ON THE PURPOSE OF DIVERSITY IS TO CLOSE SERVICES AND REPRESENTATION FOR GROUPS UNDER REPRESENTED IN THE PAST. I DON'T WANT TO DELINGER THE POINT. I'M NOT TIED TO THE NAME BUT I CAUTION THE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE SAY WE REMOVE THE STIGMA THAT WE AGREE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH D EI SO I WARRANT TO TAKE THAT PRECAUTION THAT I THINK DON'T THINK THAT THE RIGHT MOVE.

MAKING SURE THE WORK IS PRESERVED AND NOT DISRUPTED, THAT THIS SUBCOMMITTEE WILL HELP THEM CONTINUE TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN THEIR WORK AND THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE REASON WE FORMED GENERAL GROUPS WHICH IS WORKING GROUPS WHICH IS SENIOR CITIZENS AND SMALL BUSINESSES WAS FOR THAT REASON IS TO REMOVE THE STIGMA OF DEI INSTEAD OF CALLING IT FOR ONE RELIGION OR RACE OR ONE GROUP.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE STAYED A WAY WITH, WITH THE WAY WE FORMED IT IS MORE INCLUSIVE AND INTERSECTIONALITY THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS AND RELIGIONS TO BE PART OF IT.

THAT'S WHY WE DID IT. THAT IS WHY IT WAS FORMED THAT WAY IN THE TIME I WAS ON THE DIB COMMISSION AND SO AS LONG AS WE'RE ABLE TO PRESERVE THE WORK THEY ARE DOING AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK THEY HAVE DONE, AS FAR AS BUDGET GOES I WOULD LIKE TO SAY MORE, I KNOW SENIOR CITIZENS IS THE MOST, WELL FORMED GROUP WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THEIR MONEY BUT IN THE SMALL BUSINESS WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR MONEY AND MAYBE THAT WOULD MAKE SOMEONE HAPPY WE CUT THAT OUT. THAT'S OKAY.

WE'VE DONE GOOD WITHOUT IT HOWEVER KEEPING THE WORK AND THE SPIRIT OF THE COMMISSION, KEEPING THEM INFORMED AND PEOPLE ARE SO SENSITIVE ABOUT THE NAME AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT TO PRESERVE THE WORK AND PURPOSE, THAT'S OKAY.

I'M OKAY WITH THAT SO THAT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.

>> THAT'S MY HOPE THAT WE DO THAT.

>> KEEP THE WORK AND THE PURPOSE.

AND YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME? I'M OKAY.

I CAN COMPROMISE ON THE NAME. >> I CAN GET BEHIND THAT.

>> ALRIGHT. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD >> NO..

COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA? >> RESTATE THE WAY THE MOTION IS. WE GOT OFF ON SO MANY DIFFERENT

TOPICS. >> COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION. THERE'S A SUBCOMMITTEE FORMED AFTER THE VOTE THAT THEN WORKS WITH THE COMMISSION AND GETS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE THAT WE WORK ON FOCUSING ON THE WORKING GROUPS. THE COUNCIL WILL CHARGE THEM WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR WORKING GROUPS AND I HOPE WE INCLUDE SOMETHING WITH THE REST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING IN HERE AND THAT THE COUNCIL WORKS WITH THE LIBRARY TO CHANGE THEIR ORDINANCE TO ADD SOME OF THE CHARGE TO THEM TO EXPAND BECAUSE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS KIND OF OUTSIDE OF THEIR SCOPE AND TO ADD RESPONSIBILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES ON THEIR SIDE.

>> THAT WAS A LOT. >> CHANGING THE NAME.

KEEPING THE WORK. KEEPING THE OPERATIONAL WORK OF IT, REDOING SOME OF THE ORDINANCES TO PUT SOME MORE STUFF ON THE LIBRARY AND THEN FOR THE DIB?

>> THE SUBCOMMITTEE OF COUNCIL IS WORKING WITH THIS GROUP TO THEN COME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CHANGES OF THE ORDINANCE AND WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO FOCUS ON WHICH WORKING GROUP AND HOW THAT'S SET UP AND REWRITE THAT ORDINANCE.

>> WOULD IT BE IN COMPLIANCE IF THERE ARE NOT BIG CHANGES DONE AFTER THE SUBCOMMITTEES MEET WITH THEM?

OR WOULD THAT DO? >> AS LONG AS THE CHANGES ARE MADE. SOMETHING HAS TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE THE WORK THEY ARE DOING IS NOT THE WORK OF THE ORDINANCE SO THE WORK HAS TO CHANGE OR THE NAME HAS TO CHANGE.

BECAUSE THE ORDINANCE IS STRICTLY DEI HAS A NATIONAL PEOPLE LOOK AT DEI. THAT'S HOW THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING IS NOT FOR THE MOST PART NOT TO THE WAY WE WROTE THE ORDINANCE.

TO ME THAT HAS TO CHANGE OR THE WORK HAS TO CHANGE.

WHAT I'M HOPING IS WE CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO DO THEIR WORK AND MOVE THE PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE WE DID LIKE MOVE THAT TO THE LIBRARY SINCE THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING ON DEI PROGRAM AND

EVENTS. >> THROUGH THE ADVICE OF THE COUNCIL OR THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE BOARD, THERE IS AN EXPANSION

OF THE ORDINANCE? >> THAT'S RIGHT

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>> I'M SORRY. I'M STRUGGLING WITH UNDERSTANDING WHAT WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF THE WORK THEY ARE DOING AND THE WAY THAT ORDINANCE IS TO ME BECAUSE I'VE DONE THE WORK NOTHING WOULD CHANGE.

>> POINT OF ORDER? DID THE DISCUSSION AND NOW WE'RE CALLING THE VOTE. SO WE STILL DISCUSSING OR ARE WE

CALLING THE VOTE? >> POINT OF ORDER IS TO BE RULED ON BY THE MAYOR BUT THE POINT OF ORDER IS CORRECT THAT YOU ARE NOT REALLY CALLING THE VOTE. YOU ARE DISCUSSING.

WHILE YOU ARE TRYING TO CALL THE VOTE.

>> POINT WELL TAKEN. >> WE JUST HAVE TO VOTE.

>> OKAY SO WHERE ARE WE WRIGHT RIGHT NOW?

THE DISCUSSION OR VOTING? >> SECOND VOTE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I'M CLARIFYING, WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR OR

AGAINST. >> WHEN YOU CLARIFY THE VOTE YOU ASK THE SECRETARY TO READ BACK THE MOTION.

>> THANK YOU. >> THE MAYOR HAS PROVIDED THE

MOTION. >> OH.

>> HE JUST DID. >> ARE WE WAITING ON HIM TO

PROVIDE IT? >> IT'S YOUR VOTE.

>> OH. NO I CAN'T SUPPORT CHANGING IT ROOT NOW.

>>>> COUNCIL MEMBER KING? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SNYDER? >> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS? >> AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON? >> N EY.

>> STATED AYE. >> PASSES 4-3.

[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, Fire Safety, CIP). (Part 2 of 2)]

ALRIGHT THEN I'D LIKE TO RECALL ITEM 8-2.

REGARDING RECOMMENDATION OF CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES AND SUBCOMMITTEE BUT I'LL DO IT HERE.

I'D LIKE TO DO ASK IF THERE ARE VOLUNTEERS.

THAT WANT TO BE PART OF IT? KATE MORIARTY.

>> AND ME. >> AND THORNTON.

ANYBODY OBJECT TO THOSE THREE. NOT THAT IT MATTERS.

BUT OKAY. SO OUR COMMUNITY SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE WILL BE COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA AND COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS AND COUNCIL MEMBER THOR

THORNTON. >> ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR HAVING A VERY I WOULD SAY PROFESSIONAL CONVERSATION WITHOUT LETTING, I ALREADY TOLD CITY MANAGER I SAID THERE WILL BE ONE ITEM THAT WILL GET PEOPLE FIRED UP AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN SO WE HAVE GROWN A LOT THAT WE HAVE TOUGH DISCUSSIONS, LISTEN TO EVERYONE'S OPINION AND DISAGREE BUDDIES AGREE IN A MANNER THAT DOESN'T GET US ON THE NEWS.

[9.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-172 approving the Municipal Services Agreement by and between the City of Hutto and Limmer CO 132 Real Estate, LLC related to the development known as Hutto Limmer Retail. (Howard Koontz)]

>> ALRIGHT. WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO 9.1.

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON R-2026172.

APPROVING THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES BY THE CITY OF HUTTO AND HUTTO LIMMER RETAIL 132 REAL ESTATE RELATED TO THE DEVELOP KNOWN AS

HUTTO LIMMER RETAIL. >> GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD. HOWARD KOONTZ DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR. AS YOU ALREADY INTRODUCED THE SO HERE IS FOR COUNTY ROAD REFERRING TO THE LOCATION OF IT.

THIS IS ONE OF TWO ITEMS ABOUT THE SAME PROPERTY ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THIS IS THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE FOR ANNEXATION. IT'S FOR AND CHANGE ACRES.

I PUSHED THE BIG BUTTON. I DON'T THINK, THERE YOU GO.

>> AS YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION IS AT THE CORNER OF LIMMER AND 132. SORT OF A TRIANGLE THERE BETWEEN THEM BUT WE CAN SEE IT FOUR ACRES AND CHANGE IN THREE SEPARATE LOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE ETJ.

IN FACT, THE PARCEL TO THE SOUTH, AS WELL AS SOUTHEAST IS ALL UNINCORPORATED WILLIAMSON COUNTY.

THEY WILL BUILD A GAS STATION, CONVENIENCE STORE AND THEN A SEPARATE RETAIL BUILDING, AS WELL ON THE SITE SO TWO BUILDINGS AND THE FUELLING STATION AND YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE NEXT ONE. THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE AGREEMENT IS PRETTY CUSTOMARY FOR ALL OF OUR ANNEXATION.

FIRST SLIDE WE TALK ABOUT WHAT WILL NOT CHANGE AS A FUNCTION OF ANNEXATION SO THERE THEE SD AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT ARE STILL WITHIN WILLIAMSON COUNTY JURISDICTION BUT THE NEXT SLIDESHOWS WHAT WILL BE INITIATED AS A FUNCTION OF, ANNEXATION AND IT'S A REASONABLY LONG LIST SO THAT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING INVOLVED AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE

MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?

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WAIT A MINUTE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

NO WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN UP ON THIS.

IT'S UNDER THEIRS. >> QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? I GET NOT COMMENT BUT QUESTION AND THEN WE CAN OPEN UP A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R-26172 AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND. >> AND THEN ANY DISCUSSION ON

THE MOTION? >> I WOULD JUST SAY THIS.

I'M LOOKING TO MAKE SURE I SAY THIS CORRECTLY HERE BUT I BELIEVE AT 4.72 ACRES, WILL BE ANNEXING PROPERTY AND PROVIDING ALL THESE SERVICES, POLICE AND WE'LL RECEIVE 0 SALES TAX FROM THIS PROPERTY AS IT DEVELOPS. PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEE SD HAS DONE THEIR AGREEMENTS AND ANYTHING UNDER FIVE ACRES WHICH IS MOST RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY AND ANYTHING UNDER FIVE ACRES IS NOT PART OF THE SHARING AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE.

>> MAYOR THAT'S A VALID POINT. YOU CAN REQUIRE THEM TO GO FIND THE OTHER 2.8 ACRES AND COME BACK WITH 5.1 ACRES WHATEVER.

>> I DON'T WANT TO PUT THAT ON THEM BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHY WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION AS ALL THE RETAIL USE TRADITIONALLY IS MORE OF POLICE SERVICES THAN NON-RETAIL, SHOPLIFTING, HIT CARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO WE'RE ADDING THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE MORE CITY SERVICES WHERE TYPICALLY THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF SALES TAX BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE CONTRARY TO WHAT SOME ARE SAYING WE'RE NOT GETTING ANYTHING, AND IF YOU GIVE ME ONE MORE MINUTE I'LL FIND THE EXACT SECTION TO MAKE SURE I'M SAYING THIS CORRECTLY.

YEAH. SECTION 2A PAGE THREE OF THE AGREEMENT SAYS WILLIAMSON COUNTY SHALL MAINTAIN THE 40% FOR SOLE USE FOR TEN YEARS AT THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS AGREEMENT WITH AUTORENEWAL UNLESS TERMINATEED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 4 AND THIS IS A SENTENCE THAT'S KILLING US ON EVERY FAST FOOD PLACE THAT COMES IN FOREVER AND COMMISSIONER EVANS THE BUILD OUT OF THE NEXT 80 PERCENT OF OUR CITY FOR PURPOSES OF THIS AGREEMENT UNDER DEVELOPED LAND MEANS WITHOUT ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SUBDIVIDED TO LOTSLESS LESS THAN FIVE ACRES IN SIZE SO .8 ACRES BUT I DON'T THINK THAT SHOULD NOT BE A PENALTY TO THE DEVELOPER AND SOMETHING THE COUNCIL IS ALREADY WORKING ON. WE RECOGNIZE IT'S AN ISSUE AND I WANT TO BRING THEM UP THAT THIS IS ANOTHER ONE WE CAN'T GET

SALES TAX OUT OF. >> I JUST CITY MANAGER, I DID, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE LOT.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT. SO I HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT

YOUR SUGGESTION? >> SURE.

WHAT I WAS REFERENCING WAS THE CODE OR THE PART OF THE AGREEMENT FROM THEE SD THAT SAYS PARCELS UNDER FIVE ACRES WILL NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE SALES TAX SHARE SO SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE A GAS STATION YOU KNOW IT WILL GENERATE SALES TAX.

ALTERNATIVELY, WE COULD SAY TO THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WE'LL ONLY ANNEX YOU IF YOU REACH 5 .01 SO THAT WE RECEIVED THE SALES TAX, PROBLEM THAN JUST AN INDIVIDUAL

ANNEXATION. >> THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO OUT

AND BUY THAT INCREMENTAL DUTCH. >> IT IS NOT VOLUNTARY -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO ANNEX YOU UNLESS YOU VOLUNTARILY GO OUT --

>> BUT THAT WOULD CHANGE THE -- SO WHAT CITY MANAGER SAID, YOU WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO DO? THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY IS BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH SALES REVENUE.

AND IF WE CAN CAPTURE THAT AS WE PURSUE MAKING THESE CHANGES, WITH THE ESD, WHERE WE HAVE MORE CONCERN, THE MORE ACCESS AND RELIABLE ACCESS TO THOSE ESD CURRENTLY SALES TAX MONEY I THINK MY QUESTION -- I JUST DIDN'T THINK OF IT IN THE WAY THAT THE CITY MANAGER FRAMED IT WHY WOULD WE NOT I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE SHOULD. WHY WOULD WE NOT -- WHAT WOULD BE THE BENEFITS OF THE, OR THE DOWNSIDE OF ASKING FOR THAT

PARCEL TO BE BIGGER? >> IN ORDER TO FIT IT INTO THE LAW, YOU WOULD HAVE ANNEXATION POLICY WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE

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VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION -- GOING TO HAVE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATIONS OF 5 ACRES OR MORE TO TRY TO SHOEHORN IT INTO --

>> AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT TO PURSUE?

>> I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO. THEN THEY'LL DO SEND A BILL 2038 AND THEY'LL SAY, WE JUST THE ANNEX OUT OF YOUR LAND BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS WATER, AND SO NOW THAT'S THE ONE THING WE CAN HOLD PEOPLE ON SO THEN OR IS IT CITY -- IS IT JONAH? ON THE SOUTH SIDE. SO SHORT OF A WATER ISSUE, THEY GET PASSED WATER ISSUE. THEY COULD DO SUBJECT THAT I DON'T THINK WE WANT SEPTIC IF WE -- I MEAN, WE HAVE 6 MILLION-GALLON STATION COMING ON ON BOARD THAT WE NEED SOMEONE TO BE PUMPING INTO IT. IT'S JUST AN UNFORTUNATE THING THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH BECAUSE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY MAY STILL HAVE TO ANNEX TO GET THE WATER.

IF THEY WERE IN JONAH, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF OUR CITY, THEY WOULD JUST BE ANNEXED AND WE WOULD HAVE POCKETS OF LAND.

THAT'S NOT IN OUR ETJ THAT IS NOW OPERATING UNDER COUNTY CODE, WHICH THEN YOU COULD DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DO.

WE HAVE A GREAT -- I'M NOT TOTALLY CRAZY.

I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

BUT SO YOU COULD I JUST HATE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HORRIFIC. BUT ANYWAY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE.

6-0. >> WENT TO THE RESTROOM.

[9.2. Conduct a public hearing and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-043 approving the Annexation of the Hutto Limmer Retail Annexation tract, 4.173 acres, more or less, of land located at the south-east corner of Limmer Loop and CR 132 and the southwest corner of Limmer Loop and Mager Lane and to Establish the Base Zoning of B-2 (General Commercial) zoning district. (Howard Koontz)]

>> OKAY. ON THAT ONE.

NEXT ITEM NINE TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION IN ORDINANCE NUMBER -- APPROVE THE ANNEXATION OF THE HUDDLE NUMBER RETAIL ANNEXATION TRACK 4.1 MORE OR LESS OF LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE LOOP.

AND CR 132. AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LOOP AND MIDDLE LANE, AND TO ESTABLISH THE BASIS OF THE TWO GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.

SO AS THE PROPERTY WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING.

NEXT IS THE CITY WE ASSIGNED TO A ZONING CATEGORY COMMENSURATE WITH THE EXPECTATION OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.

SO WE HAVE THE NEXT MAP. THANK YOU.

THE NEXT MAP SHOWS THAT THE EXPECTATION FOR THIS IS, I BELIEVE YEAH, COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.

AND THE APPLICANT IS AGREES TO THE ASSIGNMENT OF B2, WHICH IS COMMENSURATE WITH COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, AND THAT WILL ALLOW THEIR LAND USE TO GO FORWARD. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF

THIS ASSIGNMENT AS WELL. >> WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING THIS ZONING AND B2 FOR THIS LAND? SEEING NO ONE RUSHING UP HERE. OH -- 8:34 P.M.

AND I'LL MOVE TO QUESTIONS OR ACTIONS FROM COUNSEL ON THE

ORDINANCE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE IS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> SECOND QUOTE. >> MOTION BY PORTERFIELD AND REYNOLDS. ANY DISCUSSION QUESTION MARKS HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.3. Conduct a public hearing and related items in consideration and possible action to approve Ordinance No. O-2026-044 of the City of Hutto, Texas approving and adopting a budget for the City of Hutto for the Fiscal Year beginning October 1, 2026 and ending September 30, 2027 for the City of Hutto, Texas. (Alberta Barrett)]

TO ZERO WE HAVE ITEM 93, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND RELATED ITEMS OF CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE THE CITY OF TEXAS APPROVING AND ADOPTING A BUDGET FOR THE CITY FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027 FOR THE CITY OF TEXAS.

>> YOU NEED A LOUNGE CHAIR? ARE YOU EXPECTING TO BE THERE?

>> THAT'S -- YOU ALL DECIDE THAT ONE.

>> I KNOW, IT'S NOT MY FAULT. [LAUGHTER]

>> OKAY. OKAY, YOU.

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THANK YOU. SORRY FOR THE DELAY.

SO FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO START WITH ON OUR BUDGET IS FIRST TALKING ABOUT C I P AND THE FIVE YEAR BUDGET.

WITH I GUESS THE FOCUS, ESPECIALLY ON NEXT YEAR, 27.

SO THE FIRST ONE UP THERE THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT'S A CHANGE SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT WE MET AND DISCUSSED IT WITH F2, WHICH IS THAT JUSTICE CENTER. SO WHAT WE HAVE THERE IS WE'VE ADDED THE AMOUNT THAT WILL NEED TO DO FUNDING FOR.

RES 248 MILLION FROM 42. MOVING TO THE NEXT SECTION, THE NEXT PAGE IS PARKS. BUT WE'VE ADDED HERE IS THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS MAINTENANCE FOR THE PUDDLE LAKE PARK.

AND THAT'S 55,000 THAT WE HAVE FUNDING FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, FUND 60. SO THAT'S THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE THERE. MOVING TO STREET.

>> SORRY ON THAT CAN THOSE MONEYS NOT COME FROM THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND? I THINK THERE WAS A MILLION THAT WAS THERE A MILLION. THREE THAT WAS THAT WAS

UNALLOCATED? >> THERE IS SOME -- LET ME GET THE EXACT AMOUNT. BUT WITH WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED THERE, WITH THE 88 PLANTS FOR PARKS, THEY WON'T HAVE THAT MUCH OVER THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS.

SO AT THE END OF 27, WE'RE PROJECTING THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND TO HAVE 958,000. FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS THEY HAVE 88 PLANS FOR PARKS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH WILL CONSUME ALL OF THAT, AND THEN SOME.

>> WHY NOT JUST USE THE MONEY NOW? MIGHT USE THAT WHY NOT USE THE MONEY NOW?

>> YOU COULD EITHER WAY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THE THIRD YEAR A.D.A. PLAN AS IT IS.

SO THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T STRESS IT ANY MORE 525,000 OPERATING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND COULD HANDLE THAT.

IT HAS 120,000 IN THERE, AND ANYTHING OBLIGATED FROM IT.

>> WHAT WE HAVEN'T IMPROVED THE PARKS AND TRAILS A.D.A. PLAN THAT I KNOW OF. SO WE'RE BASICALLY NOT SPENDING MONEY SAVING FOR SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T EVEN APPROVED THAT WE WANT TO DO. SO WE MAY, AND SAY WE DON'T WANT THAT DONE IN THREE YEARS, BUT WE MAY WANT THAT DONE IN FOUR.

OR SOME BIG DEVELOPMENT MAY -- I MEAN, THAT FUND IS FUNDED BY IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION. SO LET'S SAY A BIG DEVELOPMENT COMES INTO TOWN. THE MAIN PROJECT, BLUE HUB OR SOMETHING. AND THEY HAVE TO PAY IN LIEU OF DEDICATION. AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE TO FIND THAT. SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDS THAT WE SEEM LIKE WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY IN. I'M SURE WE HAVE A PLAN DOWN THE ROAD, BUT BUT I'M LIKE, LET'S SPEND IT TODAY, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW. JUST CURIOUS.

>> SURE. AS A NOTE, LAST OCTOBER, KILLING HORNE CAME AND PRESENTED THE A.D.A. TRANSITION PLAN, WHICH WE ACCEPTED I BELIEVE IT WAS THE THREE YEAR TRANSITIONAL.

SO FISCAL YEAR 27 WILL BE THE FIRST YEAR THAT THE T ONE, WHICH IS THE -- HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN RECURRING EVERY FISCAL YEAR SIDEWALK FUNDING WILL STRICTLY BE FOR A.D.A.

IMPROVEMENTS, A LOT OF WHICH IS SIDEWALK.

BUT THAT'S THE PART OF THIS INTENTION HERE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: RIGHT, SO I AGREE, WE AGREE TO THIS OVERALL THING, BUT WHAT WE HAVEN'T AGREED TO IS WHAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS LOOK LIKE TO WHERE -- BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS, I REMEMBER RIGHT, WE'RE LIKE, OKAY, WE ALREADY SPENT $500,000 ON THE SIDEWALK, SO WE'LL JUST DO 500,000 A YEAR ON 88, AND THEN FOR IF WE'RE GOING TO DO TRAILS, I MENTIONED THE SAME THING WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO DO HALF A MILLION IN TRAILS, AND THEN ANOTHER QUARTER MILLION IN A.D.A. TRAILS.

WE'LL JUST TRAIL MONEY. BUT WE JUST HAVEN'T MADE THAT CHOICE YET. BUT --

>> AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT EFFECTIVELY ANY DOLLAR THAT'S SPENT ON BUILDING A SIDEWALK, AND ADA ACCESSIBLE TRAIL, REPAIRING THE SIDEWALK. , REPAIRING AN A.D.A. ACCESSIBLE TRAIL, THOSE ARE ADA DOLLARS TICKET BECAUSE EVERY SIDEWALK IS ADA, EVERY SIDEWALK. IT'S CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE, NEW CONSTRUCTION, TRAILS MAY OR MAY NOT BE DEPENDING ON WHAT CONDITION THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN. SO YOU MAY BE GOING IN RETROFITTING AN EXISTING TRAIL TO MAKE IT ADA COMPLIANT.

BUT IF YOU'RE BUILDING A NEW TRAIL, THEN YOU'D BE BUILDING ADA COMPLIANT. AT THAT POINT IS IS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A BUCKET TO WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE OH, WE HAVE TO GO

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HAVE A BUCKET FOR SIDEWALKS. AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE A BUCKET FOR A.D.A. IMPROVEMENTS. BASICALLY, IT'S THE EXACT SAME BUCKET. NOW, THERE ARE NON-TRAIL ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE DONE. PERFECT CASE IN POINT IS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MORIARTY HAD POINTED OUT THAT THE A.D.A.

INSPECTION AT HARROW LAKE PARK HAD FAILED AS RETURNED TO GET THAT PROJECT FINISHED. HAD FAILED BECAUSE OF THE RESTROOMS NOT BEING ADA COMPLIANT WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT. SO NOW, BEFORE WE CAN GET THE A.D.A. CERTIFICATION, WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND RETROFIT THE RESTROOMS TO MAKE THEM ADA COMPLIANT.

SO THERE ARE NON-TRAIL EXPONENTIATES THAT WE NEED TO DO. WE DO NOT NEED TO DO THE ENTIRE A.D.A. PLAN IN THREE YEARS WE NEED TO BE MAKING PROGRESS TOWARD IT. SO --

>> AND WE COULD USE PARK IMPROVEMENT DOLLARS FOR ALL OF

THAT. >> I DON'T SEE ANY REASON YOU CAN'T SO LONG AS YOU'RE STAYING IN PART BECAUSE ALMOST EVERY PROJECT IMPROVEMENT IS EFFECTIVELY AN A.D.A.

CONSIDERATION. >> FOR THE COUNCIL'S KNOWLEDGE.

SO WE HAD THIS I THINK YOU REMEMBER WE HAD THIS DEBATE, IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD DEBATE TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.

I THINK WE SAW THE POLICY SET UP TO WHERE WE WOULD USE PARK IMPROVEMENT KNOWLEDGE TO GO DO SOMETHING THAT, AS WE BORROWED MONEY, WE WOULD REPLENISH THE FUND.

AND SO THE DEBATE WAS FOR ME, IT WAS MY SIDE.

I THINK WHAT WOULD WE GO BORROW MONEY TO THEN GO PARK MONEY INTO THE ACCOUNT THE PARK IMPROVEMENT DOLLARS ARE.

AND SO WE SHOULD JUST SPEND THOSE AND NOT BE BORROWING MONEY AND NOT HAVE THIS MONEY. ALWAYS SITTING THERE.

SO THAT'S WHERE I'M THINKING HERE.

SPEND THAT MONEY SO YOU CAN INCREASE OUR RESERVES BY 35,000 OR 288,000, WHATEVER IT IS. BUT TO ME, HAVING A MILLION DOLLARS SITTING IN PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND AND THEN WE'RE USING BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T SEE WHY WE USE A GENERAL REVENUE DOLLARS FOR PRODUCT STUFF, UNLESS THERE'S NO MONEY IN THE PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND, WHEN THAT'S PARTICULARLY TAPPED, THEN I THINK WE GO TO GENERAL REVENUE AND OTHERWISE EVERYBODY'S GOT THIS IDEA OF, IF YOU'VE GOT A MILLION DOLLARS, WE

CAN SPEND WHEN WE JUST -- >> AND YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO REPLENISH THE PARKS IMPROVEMENT

FUND. >> MAYOR SNYDER: YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAD IT, AND IT'S A PRETTY HIGH ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S A PARKING FEE IN LIEU OF DEDICATION AND AS YOU BUILD OUT, YOU HAVE TO DEDICATE LAND TO THE PARK SYSTEM.

MOST DEVELOPERS IF YOU SAY C MERGES.

MOST DEVELOPERS JUST CHECK THE BOX AND ASK, HOW MUCH DO I WRITE THAT CHECK FOR, AND THEN THEY DEVELOP DURING THE ENTIRE --

>> THOSE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD: DO NATE FLOOD PLAIN AND SIDES INHALED, AND THAT SORT OF STUFF.

AND THAT THEY CUT US A CHECK. AND TO THE MAYOR'S POINT, THE SPECIFIC EXAMPLE THAT HE'S REFERRING TO, IT WAS -- IF I RECALL, IT WAS FOR STARTING DESIGN ON FRITZ PARK.

AND THE REASON THAT WE HAD SUGGESTED ABOUT TO REIMBURSE IT IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO ISSUE THAT TO REIMBURSE IT WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS A LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY THAT WAS BEING TAKEN OUT TO GO DO DESIGN, ARGUABLY, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR LOTS OF OTHER LITTLE PROJECTS TO IMPROVE THE PARKS.

SO WE JUST GAVE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO DECIDE, DO YOU WANT TO USE THIS MONEY AS A LUMP SUM FOR A DESIGN OR WOULD YOU RATHER BECAUSE YOU CAN ISSUE DEBT TO REPLACE THAT AND TO THE FENCE SO YOU COULD GO DO LOTS OF OTHER SMALLER PROJECTS, AND THEN THE COUNCIL DECIDED, NO, DON'T ISSUE THE DEBT. USE THAT MONEY.

THAT'S -- >> OKAY.

>> EXCEPT I THINK THE COUNCIL SAID NO BECAUSE WE WANT THE OPTION BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD

BORROW MONEY. >> WE ISSUE THE DEAD AND REPLACE THE FUNDS BACK INTO THE FUND.

>> WE HAD THE OPTION. >> THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION.

>> I CAN MOVE IT FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OPERATING

FUND TO PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND. >> DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ISSUE

WITH THAT? >> COULD WE -- DO WE NEED A

MOTION ON THAT OR. >> I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF YOU COLLECT THEM ALL AND THEN DO A MOTION AT THE END.

>> THAT'S FINE. IT'S PERFECT.

IT'S PERFECT. >> WELL THEN --

>> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S ON MAINTENANCE AND A.D.A. PLAN. IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YOU NEED TO FEED HIM EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT THE BUDGET TO BE.

>> YES, SO IT'S -- I'M SORRY. I'M A LITTLE BEHIND YOU THERE, SORRY, MAYOR. 55,000 FOR POND MAINTENANCE FOR THE HUDDLE LAKE PARK MOVE FROM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT OPERATING

FUND TO PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND. >> AND THE 288 FOR THE PARKS AND

TRAIL 88 PLAN RIGHT? >> I ALREADY HAVE THAT IN THE

PARK PLAN. >> OKAY, SO JUST A 55.

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>> IT'S THE ONLY ONE. >> WHAT I'M.

THIS IS 93. >> 93.

>> SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE THE 55,000 POND MAINTENANCE

FROM CIP TO FUND. >> SECOND.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT COME HERE, PLEASE CALL

THE VOTE. >> WAS THE SECOND MORRIS?

>> YES.

THE MOTION PASSES, 7-0. NOW MOVING --

>> MAYOR SNYDER: PAGE OUT OF 500, AND 20 PAGE.

>> WHAT PAGE NOW? >> 199.

>> I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.

>> MOVING TWO STREETS. T FOR.

SO HERE, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE HAD AN ESTIMATE FOR CONSTRUCTION AT A LITTLE OVER 3.3 MILLION. SO BASED ON SOME LATEST ESTIMATES THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE CONSULTANT, THAT PROJECT IS GOING TO BE CLOSER TO 5.3 MILLION.

SO SO THAT FUNDING WAS GOING TO COME FROM A REMAINING -- FROM THE 20 TO GEO FOR A MILLION 150 TO HELP MAKE UP THAT DIFFERENCE.

SO THAT WILL HAVE TO BE PUT BACK TO THE 20 TO GEOS.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO USE IT BECAUSE I'M GOING TO NEED THAT MONEY FOR THAT TIF PROJECT, WHICH IS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FUNDING WAS FOR THAT PROJECT. OKAY? IS FOR ALL THE FM 1560 PROJECTS. SO THAT 150 WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO BE USED FOR THE SERIES 27 REDUCTION.

MOVING TO T 15, -- >> I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT

PROJECT NUMBER? >> T FOR THE FM --

>> MAYOR SNYDER: SO THAT'S GONE UP TO $2 MILLION?

>> YES. >> MAYOR SNYDER: BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING THAT WAS A MUST HAVE LOCKBOX MONEY DUE TO --

>> SHE'S SAYING THAT SHE'S MOVING THE MONEY BACK INTO THERE TO COVER THAT PROJECT, WHICH WILL THEN NOT MAKE IT ELIGIBLE FOR US TO USE AGAINST WHAT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO ISSUE IN

27. >> EXACTLY.

OKAY. >> MAYOR SNYDER: BECAUSE THAT HAS TO BE SPENT ON THAT PROJECT, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY MISSPENT THAT MONEY ONCE AND WENT TO A GOT PERMISSION, GOT OUT OFD SAID, OKAY, WE LOST THAT MONEY TO THE SIDE.

WE PROMISED WE WILL DO THIS ROUTE.

>> YES, IT IS THE, WITH 2 MILLION PART THAT'S TRIPPING ME UP BECAUSE THAT PROJECT WILL BE FUNDED WITH THESE DOLLARS.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: WE WANT TO COME UP WITH TWO MEN IF WE WANT TO --

WE NEED 2 MILLION MORE. >> IT'S MORE THAN 2 MILLION.

THE TOTAL THAT -- I MEAN, SHE'S WORKED IT DOWN.

BUT IS STILL MORE THAN 2 MILLION.

BUT YES. THAT'S A MILLION 1/2 THAT WAS GOING TO BE PULLING DOWN TO 27 ISSUANCE.

THAT NOW IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE. >> SO MAYBE JUST TO HELP CLARIFY, IN THE SPREADSHEET, THAT -- IT'S NOT THERE.

NEVER MIND IN THE SUMMARY THAT I SENT YOU THAT SHOWED HOW MUCH FUNDING WE HAD, WE WERE GOING TO USE IN THE SECOND, THE FUNDING SOURCES, IT SAYS SERIES 22 GOES WE WERE GOING TO USE 1,150,000 FROM THAT FUNDING SOURCE. I'M SAYING WE CAN'T USE IT LIKE JAMES SAID. IT HAS TO STAY WITH THAT T FOR PROJECT. SO WE'RE SHORT THAT ALMOST 2,000,001,000,150 IS GOING TO GO TO OFFSET THAT.

SO I'M NOT SURE 2 MILLION BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT MONEY AND PUT IT BACK TO T FOR. OKAY? SO I CAN'T USE IT TO REDUCE THE BORROWING WE NEED FOR THE 27 ISSUE. OKAY?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: SO HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO COME UP WITH THIS ON THIS PAGE HERE HOW MUCH DO WE NEED TO COME UP TO KEEP EVERYTHING EXACTLY LIKE WE HAD IN LAST MEETING? SO WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS EVERY TIME THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE ROAD PROJECT, WE EITHER GOT TO BORROW MORE OR SPEND LESS,

RIGHT? >> AND I'M FIXING TO GO THROUGH SOME MORE TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND LESS.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: OH, OKAY, I WAS GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE I THINK ON THE LIVE OAK AND LIVE D INTERSECTION RECONSTRUCTION, SOME OF THAT INCLUDE THE LIVE OAK EDGE, SCHMITT INTERSECTION

WITH THE SIGNAL, WHICH. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: I'M NOT ENTIRELY SURE WHICH PROJECT IT IS.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: 10. >> THAT WOULD INCLUDE LIVE OAK COMMUNITY -- SO T10 THE EDGE RECONSTRUCTION.

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THAT'S -- YOU'RE ASKING IF THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE SIGNAL

IMPROVEMENTS? >> MAYOR SNYDER: ALL RIGHT, FOR

THE -- >> NO, NOT FOR THAT INTERSECTION. THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE WITH A DIFFERENT CIP PROJECT NUMBER. THAT IS 346 AND T 79.

>> WHAT I'M JUMPING AHEAD, NOT ON THIS PAGE.

>> CORRECT. >> MAYOR SNYDER: I APOLOGIZE, I'M JUST -- I'M JUST EXCITED FOR THE BUDGET.

>> OKAY, SO THE NEXT ONE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS T 15, WHICH IS THE INTERSECTION AT LIVE OAK AND EXCHANGE.

SO THERE FROM THE LAST TIME WE TALKED.

INSTEAD OF BORROWING THAT MONEY THROUGH THAT SERIES OF 27, C OS, WE'RE GOING TO USE THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUND.

SO THAT 3,187,600 WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THERE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: AND, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IF THE TOURIST BOARD DECIDES TO INCLUDE THAT PROJECT INTO THAT TOURS, WE CAN THEN REFUND THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE WE'RE MEETING WITH THOSE GUYS TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS BOOMING.

THERE'S SO MUCH MONEY THAT I'D HATE TO HAVE HER JOB BECAUSE IT'S LIKE. OKAY, DON'T FORGET THIS BOARD VOTES TO DO THIS. HERE IN LIKE THREE YEARS WE WANT TO REIMBURSE THIS PROJECT. WE DID TWO YEARS AGO.

AND SO SOMEONE IN THE FUTURE IS GOING TO HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL THIS STUFF BECAUSE THERE SHOULD BE A LOT OF MONEY THAT COMES IN FROM ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT. THAT WE KIND OF BEEN STRUCTURED IT. YOU JUST HAVE TO -- WE GOT TO KEEP THE GROWTH KIND OF INCHING ALONG.

AND CROSS YOUR FINGERS THAT IT GENERATES THAT REVENUE NEEDED TO

PAY IT ALL BACK. >> OKAY.

TRAN19 IS THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS COUNTY ROAD 199 RECONSTRUCTION.

HERE, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN 28, WE HAVE A FUTURE BORROWING OF ABOUT 19.4 MILLION. THAT LATEST ESTIMATE WE HAVE ON THAT IS AROUND 14.6 MILLION. SO THAT'S DROPPED QUITE A BIT.

OF COURSE, THAT DOESN'T HELP US WITH THE 27 ISSUE.

THAT'S WITH THE 28. BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CONSULTANTS TO GET THE BEST ESTIMATES WE CAN ON ALL OUR PROJECTS BEFORE WE GO OUT FOR AN ISSUANCE. T 21 IS THE ALLIANCE EXPANSION.

THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE BROKEN UP INTO TWO PROJECTS, AND THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE IT, IT'S GOING TO BE T 21 A, WHICH IS GOING TO BE PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE 2,000,250 HOOKER, THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADD PHASE TWO, WHICH IS GOING TO BE T21B, AND IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT A MILLION 570. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT PHASE WILL HIT IN 27. THERE WILL BE LATER.

A LATER YEAR. IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO JUST WIDEN

UP TO -- >> WITH THE YMCA, BASICALLY.

>> OKAY. >> AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, I THINK THAT THAT WIDENING IS EFFECTIVELY JUST THREE LANES.

IT'S JUST GOING TO ADD A TURN LANE.

>> THAT'S WHAT I HAD THOUGHT ORIGINALLY, BUT IT IS COMPREHENSIVE. IT IS AN EXPANSION.

IT'S GOING TO BE A FULL PROJECT BUILD.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: I THINK IT'S GOING TO -- YES.

>> AND THEN I WANT TO KNOW THAT AT SOME POINT WE'LL NEED TO TALK ABOUT T 26, WHICH IS STATE HIGHWAY 130 NORTHBOUND FREDERICK FROM 79 TO. AGAIN, THIS IS A 28 BORROWING AT 9.9 MILLION BUT WE'LL BE ADDING T 27, WHICH IS STATE HIGH 130 SOUTHBOUND. SO AT SOME POINT, WE'LL HAVE SOME NUMBERS THAT WE'LL NEED TO BRING TO YOU TO INCLUDE THAT.

>> WHICH I BELIEVE KATE HAS GOOD NEWS ON THAT ONE, RIGHT? T 27? TELL US --

>> NOT RIGHT NOW. >> WE GOT THE EMAIL, AND?

>> WE DON'T HAVE GOOD NEWS UNTIL WE HAVE A VARIETY, MAYOR.

THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE GOOD NEWS. >> MAYOR SNYDER: CONCEPTUALLY,

WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? >> THE NO NEED TO COMPLETE A REVENUE STUDY, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT I'M HOPING?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: NO, THE -- AUTHORITY SAID WE DON'T NEED TO DO REVENUE STUDY, BUT WITH THE WIDENING OF 130, THEY'RE LOOKING VERBALLY TO GO AHEAD AND BUILD THAT SOUTHBOUND --

>> THAT IS WHAT FINISH HAD TOLD US, AND THEN WHEN WE MET WITH TEXDOT, THAT WAS NOT THEIR INTENTION.

THE CLARIFICATION THAT THEY PROVIDED WAS, WE HAVE A PROJECT LETTING IN JANUARY, AND IF YOU ALL WANT TO PIGGYBACK ONTO IT, AND YOU HAVE THE FUNDING READY, THEN WE CAN GET GOING AND THAT WAS VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THAT CONVERSATION HAD BEEN WITH VIGHNESH. SUCH AS THE CONSULTANT.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: SOMETHING MILLION, AND WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BECAUSE I. OKAY, IF YOU ADD A PROJECT BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE INTEREST IN THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S

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ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE THAT WE CAN MAYBE FIND A WAY TO FUND, NOW AND THEN USE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT KNOWLEDGE TO PAY IT BACK.

YEAH. THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T GET THE EMAIL SENT TO US. OKAY.

I HADN'T SLEPT IN LIKE TWO WEEKS BECAUSE I WAS SO EXCITED THAT -- NOW I CAN SLEEP EASY TONIGHT KNOWING THAT WE STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. [LAUGHTER]

>> OKAY. SO YOU CAN SLEEP ON THIS ONE, MAY. T 46 AND T 79, WE HAD HABITUALLY THOUGHT THAT COST ESTIMATE WOULD BE ABOUT 7.9 IS WHAT WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET. WE WERE FIGHTING THREE-POINT TO MILLION FROM TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUNDS.

WHICH LEFT US THAT 4.6 THAT WE NEED TO BORROW FOR SERIES 27.

BUT WE'VE GOTTEN A REVISED COST ESTIMATE.

SO INSTEAD OF 7.9, IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO FOUR.

SO YOU HAVE A SAVINGS OF ABOUT 3.9.

SO WITH ALL THAT SAID, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO NEED TO BORROW 4.6 MILLION RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT 2.8.

SO DRASTIC DOWNWARD MOTION. BUT WE STILL HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS TO CONTINUE FINALIZING WHAT THOSE ESTIMATES ARE.

SO SOME COULD GO DOWN. BUT SOME COULD ALSO GO UP.

SO WE'LL BE CONTINUALLY WORKING ON THAT OVER THE NEXT MONTH TO GET THE MOST ACCURATE NUMBERS WE CAN BEFORE WE GO OUT WITH AN

ISSUANCE. >> MAYOR SNYDER: ALREADY, AND T 46, T 79, THAT'S ALSO A PROJECT THAT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO BUILD IT, SO WE'RE GOING TO -- THE IDEA IS WE'LL BUILD IT.

A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY, ENFORCE THEM TO PAY US BACK BEFORE THEY

CAN UTILIZE IT, RIGHT? >> YES, CORRECT, AND THEN THAT'S THE FOURTH JOINT PROJECT WITH THE EDC AS WELL.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: IF THE EDC FUNDS THAT WHOLLY, THEN POTENTIALLY WE WON'T NEED TO BORROW ANY MONEY NEXT YEAR?

>> THAT WOULD BE TRUE UNLESS SOME OTHER PROJECTS CAME IN WAY OVER WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY BUDGETED.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: OKAY, SO DON'T GO OVER BUDGET WE TRIED TO TALK TO EDC INTO FUNDING THIS ROAD AND GET REIMBURSED LATER, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A BOND ISSUE, NEXT YEAR?

>> VERY POSSIBLY I'M NOT GOING TO SAY YES.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: THIS IS GOOD NEWS BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF WHITTLING IT DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE, TO ME, IT BRINGS US

OPTIONS OF MAYBE NOT BORROWING. >> YEAH, OR.

I AGREE. >> MAYOR SNYDER: AWESOME.

>> OKAY, AND THEN T 73 WAS ALSO ONE THAT WE HAD AS A BORROWING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO USE 24 GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT ISSUANCE FUNDS FOR THAT. WE MAY MADE NO CHANGES TO THE BROADER WATER SECTION. SO IF YOU COULD MOVE TO THE NEXT PAGE. DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT NEEDED A MOTION FOR THE TRANSPORTATION?

>> YES, THANK YOU. SO --

>> WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES BECAUSE.

>> DO YOU NEED ME TO TELL YOU WHAT THAT IS?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: YES. >> OKAY, SO WE NEED TO MAKE THAT MOTION THAT T FOUR, WERE NOT GOING TO MOVE THAT 1,150,002 SERIES 27. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT IN SERIES 24 GOES FOR THE T FOUR FM 1660S SOUTH US 79 PROJECT.

SO THAT'S ONE. DO YOU WANT TO READ THEM ALL

OFF? >> WE CAN DO ALL STREETS

TOGETHER. >> MAYOR SNYDER: SO THERE'S

THAT ONE. >> THEN THE OTHER ONE IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE T 21 A FOR THE ALLIANCE EXPANSION PHASE ONE, WHICH IS THE 2,000,250 IN 2027. AND THAT'S IN THE BUDGET.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD. T 27.

OH, I'M SORRY, I'M JUMPING. PHASE TWO OF ALLIANCE FOR A

MILLION 570. >> MAYOR SNYDER: T 20 WILL BE --

>> YES, T21BI SAID IT WRONG. WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT? A MILLION 570. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE LIKE, HOT, 28? SHOULD WE PUT IT THERE NOW?

>> I'D PROBABLY PUT IT IN 2030. >> OKAY.

I LIKE THAT BETTER. OKAY.

>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW THE NEXT ONE IS WE WILL BE ADDING T 27, WHICH IS STATE HIGHWAY 130 SOUTHBOUND.

AND I DON'T HAVE A PRICE ON THAT YET.

BUT THAT IS A PROJECT WE WILL BE ADDING -- OKAY.

>> OKAY. >> OKAY.

>> IN A YEAR. >> NOW.

>> I'D SAY -- >> 2027.

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>> I'LL SAY 2028 ON THAT ONE. THAT MEANS YOU WON'T START UNTIL

2028. >> MAYOR SNYDER: I THOUGHT THEY WERE DESIGNING A. WE HAVE TO DO DESIGN WORK, TOO?

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: I DON'T THINK THEY'RE DOING IT TOGETHER.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: 22. >> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: IS --

>> OKAY. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: IT'S ACTUALLY AN ITEM THAT'S ON THERE.

>> THEN THE LAST ONE IS T 46, T 79.

SO REDUCING THE COST FROM 7.9 MILLION TO 4 MILLION IS AN ESTIMATE. AND THAT'S THE INTERSECTION AT

EDGE TO THE END OF LIVE OAK. >> MAYOR SNYDER: IT, MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MAYOR SNYDER: ALL RIGHT ANY

OTHER DISCUSSION? >> YOU MENTIONED T 173 BUT

THERE'S NO CHANGE THEIR. >> YEAH, THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE, DO YOU WANT TO. YOUR 28 FOR THE REVISED COST WE HAVE THERE? OR DO YOU JUST WANT ME TO MAKE THAT CHANGE AND TALK ABOUT IT IN A FUTURE -- OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? WE GOT ALL THAT?

>> I'M READY. >> MAYOR SNYDER: OKAY, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: YOU GUYS, THANKS.

THIS IS REAL BUDGETING. THE OLD DAYS, WE KEPT SAYING YES, YES, YES. THAT WE EITHER DIDN'T DO THE PROJECT OR TRY TO GO OUT AND BOTHER 70, $80 MILLION AT ONCE.

THIS IS A WHOLE LOT BETTER. >> SO NO CHANGES TO WATER.

SO IF WE COULD MOVE TO WASTEWATER.

HERE, WASTEWATER 16, WHICH IS CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS ORIGINALLY EXPANSION PHASE ONE.

IT IS NOW CHANGE IN SCOPE WHERE IT IS THE BYPASS.

SO WHAT YOU HAD SEEN IN MAY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE UTILITY FUND AND IMPACT FEE FUND, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT NEED TO BORROW 29.1 MILLION. SO WITH THIS REVISED SCOPE, THAT COST IS NOW 12 MILLION TO 83. SO THAT'S A BIG SAVINGS IN THE

UTILITY FUND. >> AND MAYBE CITY MANAGER OR THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS CAN HELP ME SHED SOME LIGHT ON THE TIMING OF WHEN THE SCOPE WAS CHANGED.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS FOR SOME TIME, IT'S BEEN LABELED IN YOUR CIP PRESENTATION. AND ON THIS SEAT, BACKS SHEET AS A TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION. BUT PREVIOUSLY THERE HAD BEEN DIRECTION TO EFFECTIVELY HOLD OFF ON THE INVESTMENT TO EXPAND THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND CONSTRUCT A BYPASS AND DO A REWRITE STUDY WITH TCEQ TO EFFECTIVELY ALLOW FOR MORE FLOW TO OPERATE THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AT THE CAPACITY IT'S CURRENTLY TREATING.

SO THIS IS EFFECTIVELY DOING A MORE EFFICIENT FINANCIAL IMPROVEMENT. AND BYPASSING THE FLOWS TO THE SOUTH WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT FOR THE TIME BEING.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'S A LITTLE THAT HOPEFULLY THAT'S HELPFUL.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: IT'S SO YOU NEED A MOTION APPROVING THE

CHANGE TO W? >> RIGHT.

I THINK OF TWO PARTS. ONE, THAT'S IT'S NO LONGER AN EXPANSION THE SCOPE IS CHANGED TO A BYPASS.

AND THAT THE AMOUNT OF BORROWING FOR 2027 WOULD BE FROM 29.1 MILLION TO 12 MILLION TO 83.

>> SECOND. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL, I THINK, IN OUR CALCULATIONS ON RACE GOING FORWARD WITH HOUR IMPACT FEES AND ALL THAT DOWN.

>> YES, WE HAVE THAT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: WE'D. ALL RIGHT.

ANY DISCUSSION AND MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE

VOTE. >> ALBERTA, WAS THERE A YEAR

CHANGE OR JUST? >> I'M SORRY.

>> WAS THERE A YEAR CHANGE OR JUST? THANK YOU.

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>> MAYOR SNYDER: FOR THE MOTION PASSES, 7-0.

>> OKAY, SO THAT CONCLUDES THE CIP -- YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING. KEEP GOING.

THERE WE GO. WHOOPS, TOO FAR.

THERE. SO IN THE CITIZEN SURVEY, THE TOP THREE HIGHEST RANKING VERY HIGH PRIORITIES WAS STREET CONSTRUCTION, STREET MAINTENANCE, AND UTILITIES.

SO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS JUST ILLUSTRATING THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING.

SO WHAT WE HAVE FOR STREET AND DRAINAGE CONSTRUCTION NEXT YEAR IS ALMOST 40 MILLION. IT'S 39,769,006, 29.

FOR THOSE STREET AND DRAINAGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.

MAINTENANCE STREET DRAINAGE AND SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, WE HAVE WHETHER IT BE STREETS, SIDEWALKS, DRAINAGE, TRAFFIC, IMPACT OR SIGNAL REPAIR, I SHOULD SAY.

AND THEN UTILITIES, WATER AND WASTEWATER.

AGAIN, OF COURSE, NO RATE INCREASE FOR UTILITY OPERATIONS IN THE BUDGET. AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, WE'RE AT OVER 132 MILLION. SO ALL THREE OF THOSE TOGETHER IS ALMOST $175 MILLION WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE PROJECTS RELATED TO THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES THAT CITIZENS WANT TO SEE. AND EVERYTHING IN HERE IS GETTING STARTED. THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR?

>> YES. >> MAYOR SNYDER: SOMETIMES.

WE DO A $400 MILLION BUDGET, BUT WE'RE REALLY THAT WE DON'T GET

IT GOING, THESE ARE ALL -- >> SOME OF THEM ARE ALREADY

STARTED COMING TO. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: YEAH, THERE'S QUITE A FEW THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY.

SO THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK IS DESIGNED --

>> YES, IT'S DESIGNED. IT'S THE WATER TRANSMISSION MAIN. THAT'S PART OF THE PROJECT.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: SO THAT'S A BIG DOLLAR PURCHASE, BUT THE ELEVATED STORAGE TANK TAKES A WHILE TO BUILD.

BUT THEY'RE DESIGNED. SO YEAH.

THIS SHOULD BE CONSTRUCTION -- >> MAYOR SNYDER: AND ALL THE

ROAD ONES ARE GOING TO BE READY? >> CITY MANAGER EARP: I CAN'T SEE THAT THIS. 24 -- THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HIT

ANOTHER SPRING TO THE SUMMER. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: RIGHT.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: T FIVE IS IN CONSTRUCTION.

>> THE ONLY ONE UP THERE THAT DOES NOT CONSTRUCTION SPECIFIC IS T 20 TO, WHICH IS THE INNOVATION EXPANSION, AND THAT IS TO START DESIGNING. EVERYTHING ELSE UP THERE, EXCUSE ME, EXCEPT FOR T 47 AND T 48, THOSE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT'S FINISHING OUT DESIGN. THEY'RE DOING THEIR ANALYZES RIGHT NOW. AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: NEW AT WILL BE READY?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO BRING UP IS -- THERE WILL BE $6 MILLION WE SPENT, I THINK IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE'VE ONLY STARTED OUR DRAINAGE.

IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, ONLY BRINGS IN THREE OR 400,000 A YEAR TO.

AND SO I THINK AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE ALL THAT ISSUES IN RIGHT NOW. WE ARE ONLY HITTING ONE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE FUND THAT PROVIDES LESS THAN HALF A MILLION A YEAR. IT'S TWO DOLLARS OR THREE DOLLARS A MONTH. SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING -- PEOPLE'S RATES, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO FIX DRAINAGE ISSUES, I THINK AT SOME POINT, WE BROUGHT THIS UP A YEAR OR TWO AGO THAT SOME CITIES KEEP A LOWER TAX RATE ON THERE PROPERTY TAX, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND THAT'S ADDED.

AND SO WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT POLITICALLY.

WE JUST SAY OUR TAX RATE IS X. WE GO TO OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE A LOWER TAX RATE AND THEY HAVE A DRAINAGE FEE FUND HAVE A ROAD FUND ALL THOSE MONIES ARE DEDICATED TO THOSE FUNDS WE'RE JUST COLLECTING OUR PROPERTY TAX AND THEN WE'RE -- ARGUING WHERE TO SPEND IT EACH YEAR. BUT AT SOME POINT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN CONTINUE TO SPEND 4 MILLION A YEAR ON STUFF THAT'S ONLY GENERATING HALF A MILLION I'M NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO MAKE THE DRAINAGE EQUAL WHAT WE SPEND.

BUT -- >> CITY MANAGER EARP: AND JUST TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THOSE FEES ARE COLLECTED ON THE UTILITY BILL.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: YES, SO AND WE TALKED ONCE BEFORE ABOUT DROPPING THE TAX RATE BEHIND A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND THEN INCREASING THAT BILL TO WHERE IT WOULD OFFSET TO WHERE THE MONEY WAS MORE DEDICATED. WHY NOT.

WE COULD DO ALL THIS WORK, AND THE COUNCIL NEXT YEAR, THE FOLLOWING YEAR COULD RIVAL EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE.

AND SPEND THE MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE.

AND WE'RE SPENDING 2.9-2.2 MILLION ON ROAD MAINTENANCE.

WHAT WAS THAT THREE YEARS AGO? WE DIDN'T SPEND A DOLLAR.

>> THREE YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS LIKE 150 -- FOUR YEARS AGO.

IT WAS $150,000 PER. >> MAYOR SNYDER: SO WE LASER MAPPED EVERY ROAD IN THE CITY, NOW THE PLAN.

YOU'RE ONLY ONE COUNCIL VOTE AWAY FROM COMPLETELY ROBBING THE

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TWO-POINT TO MILLION FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

SO AT SOME POINT, I'D LIKE TO SEE US GO TO A ROAD MAINTENANCE FUND. JUMP TO PEOPLE'S TAXES DOWN TO OFFSET, TO WHERE WE'RE RAISING TAXES, BUT YOU'RE ALMOST LOCKED INTO THE MONEY WHERE IT HAS TO GO TO ROAD MAINTENANCE, WHEREAS NOW -- IT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE. OFFERING TO DO IT OR PROBABLY NEXT YEAR. ANYWAY.

I GUESS NEXT SLIDE. >> SO WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT UPDATES SO ON MAY 7TH, WE HAD A WORKSHOP WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE UTILITY FUND LONG RANGE ANDE UTILITY IMPACT FEE FUND.

AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT THOSE LONG-TERM PROJECTIONS WERE.

SO WHAT WE -- WHAT I DID HERE WAS TAKE THAT SAME PRESENTATION AND JUST KIND OF REDLINE IT SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT CHANGES AND WHAT THOSE EFFECTS WERE. SO HERE WE DID REVISED ASSUMPTIONS WE DID THIS SCENARIO THAT WAS APPROVED ON MAY 7TH, AND THEN WE ADDED A NEW SCENARIO AS OF TODAY.

SO ALL THE REVISIONS ARE IN RED. THE ASSUMPTIONS ARE THERE.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE. AND WE DID BASICALLY SCENARIO ONE IS GONE. SO ON THIS SLIDE, THE BIGGEST IMPACT IS WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WITH WATER 16 THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT DIVISION. WHICH IS A BYPASS.

IT'S NO LONGER AN EXPANSION. AND WE HAD INCLUDED IN THE LONG-RANGE PLAN THAT WE'D NEED TO BORROW.

29.1 MILLION IN 27. THAT'S NOW LOWERED TO 12.3 MILLION IN 2027. NO CHANGES TO YEAR 2028 AND 2029. SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THOSE ISSUANCES IN THE LONG-RANGE PLAN.

SO NO CHANGE HERE FOR DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION.

SO IN 2027, WE STILL HAVE BUDGETED THE MILLION 885400 FOR THE MEADOWBROOK LINE, AND THEN THE THREE PROJECTS IN 2028.

IN UTILITY, NO CHANGES IN THE OPERATING.

WE LEFT. THE BIGGEST ONE WITH 27 IS THE RECHARGE INCREASE EXPANSION, WHICH PICKS UP A FULL YEAR OF EXPENDITURES, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER 2.6 MILLION IN 2027.

WE HAVE NOT ADDED ANY NEW FTES AT THIS POINT, THOUGH WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT THAT IN THE 2029, OR MAYBE EVEN 30 YEAR TIME FRAME. OKAY.

THE GROWTH RATE FOR THE IMPACT FEE, WE, AGAIN, HAD LOWERED THOSE INCREASES FROM 5.4% TO 3.3 IN WATER AND 4.2 IN WASTEWATER.

WE STILL KEPT THAT SCENARIO. BUT WHAT WE DID WAS WE REVISED THE 26TH PROJECTED REVENUES THIS YEAR BECAUSE THEY AREN'T THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THEIR BUDGETS. SO WE REDUCED THOSE AND PROJECTED THEM TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY RECEIVING. AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE IS THE FUND BALANCE. SO THE IMPACT FEE FUND, WE START IN -- WITH 21,914,293. FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

TRANSFERS JUST GO THROUGH THESE REAL QUICK.

ORIGINALLY WE WERE GOING TO TRANSFER FROM IMPACT FEE FUND TO THE UTILITY FUND PICK FOR INTEREST PAYMENTS.

IN 2027. ORIGINALLY IT WAS 4 1/2 MILLION.

WE'VE LOWERED IT TO 3 MILLION. SAME IN 2028.

IT WAS 5 MILLION. WE LOWERED IT TO THREE.

IMPACT FEE FUND BECAME NEGATIVE IN 2029 IN THE FIRST SCENARIO.

THAT PUSHED IT OUT A YEAR OR TWO TO YEAR 2030, AND THAT UTILITY FUND IS REIMBURSING THE IMPACT FEE FUND, WHICH LI 20.5 MILLION WILL BE 11 MILLION IN THE YEARS 2029 THROUGH 2032, IN THIS SCENARIO, UTILITY FUND IS NOT TRANSFERRING ANY MONEY TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS IN THIS TIME FRAME.

BUT SHORTLY THEREAFTER, IT WILL. SO JUST SHOWING YOU HERE WHERE WE REDUCED ELIMINATED SCENARIO ONE, BECAUSE THAT WASN'T REALISTIC. WHAT WE USED AND THAT WAS APPROVED ON MAY 7TH WAS FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO REIMBURSE FOR ITEMS RELATED TO THE MEGASITE.

SO IN 2027, THE UTILITY FUND IS GOING TO HAVE A LUMP SUM REIMBURSEMENT FROM EDC FOR THE EXPENSES RELATED TO THE EAST WEST BOND ROAD OF 4.5 MILLION. THEN IT'S GOING TO ALSO REIMBURSE THE UTILITY FUND FOR DEBT ISSUANCES PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST FOR THE MEGA WATER AND WASTEWATER.

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IT WILL ALSO REIMBURSE THE DEBT SERVICE FUND FOR THE EAST WEST SPINE ROAD. THE ISSUANCE RELATED TO THAT.

PROJECT. SO THOSE ARE STILL THE SAME AND ARE CALCULATED IN BOTH THE IMPACT FEE AND THE UTILITY FUND.

OR JUST THE UTILITY FUND. I'M SORRY?

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: THE TOP IS A ONE-TIME EXPENSE THE BOTTOM IS

ANNUAL. >> , THAT 1.5 IS A ONE-TIME LUMP SUM. THAT REOCCURRING AT THE ANNUAL REIMBURSES FOR THE -- FOR THE ONE LINE, THE WASTEWATER LINE AND THE STREAM. OKAY.

SO THE NEXT HERE ARE NO CHANGES. JUST TO GO BACK THROUGH IT AGAIN. EDC IN THE LONG-RANGE, IT'S GOING TO REIMBURSE FROM 28 THROUGH 32 AND OUT THROUGH YEARS -- BASED ON THE DEBT, BUT IT'S ABOUT 2 MILLION OR TWO-POINT ALMOST TWO-POINT TO MILLION A YEAR FOR THAT.

THAT WAS THE SAME AS WHAT WE LOOKED AT ON MAY 7TH.

JUST REAL QUICK. THESE ARE TRANSFERS.

YOU SEE THE BIG DIFFERENCE WHERE WE'RE TRANSFERRING 7 MILLION.

WE'VE REDUCED IT TO 5 1/2 FROM THE IMPACT FEE FUND TO THE UTILITY FUND. SAME UTILITY FUND REIMBURSEMENT IMPACT FEE IS REDUCED FROM 17 1/2 TO 11.

AND THEN WE'RE NOT DOING THE -- THAT'S OKAY, GO AHEAD.

SO IN SUMMARY, EVERYTHING OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IS NUMBER ONE, WE'VE REVISED OUR REVENUES FOR THE IMPACT FEES.

IN 2026. SO THAT'S START YOUR BEGINNING NUMBER MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY PROJECTED TO CARRY OUT. THERE'S FOR THE CIP PROJECT WAS CHANGED TO. SO THEREFORE WE REDUCED OUR 2027 BORROWING FROM 29.1 TO 12.3. AND SO THE EFFECTS OF THAT SHOW YOU THIS REVISED SCENARIO FOR SEPTEMBER TODAY THAT WE WOULD NOT NEED A RATE INCREASE UNTIL 2031 AND WHERE WE ORIGINALLY WOULD HAVE A 12% INCREASE OVER SIX YEARS, IT WOULD BE A 2% RATE

INCREASE. >> I LOVE IT.

>> THAT MEANS WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TO -- YEAH.

>> SO YOU SEE THERE IN 2029, WHERE WE WERE PROPOSING 5% TO ZERO AND YEAR 30 FROM 15% TO ZERO.

AND IN 2031, WE WILL NEED TO DO A 2% INCREASE.

AND THEN HERE'S JUST THE SCENARIO COMPARISON SHOWING WHAT WE APPROVED ON MAY 7TH AND THEN THE LAST COLUMN, WHAT WE'RE

PROPOSING TODAY. >> YEAH.

AND WE SHOULD NOTE, TWO, THAT THIS IS BASED ON REDUCED GROWTH RATES AT ANY POINT IN TIME, BUT I THINK WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THE SITUATION WE HAVE IS WE'RE ALMOST COMPLETELY FILLING UP THE WASTEWATER NETWORK AND WATER. SO AT ANY POINT IN TIME, ANY GROWTH AFTER WE'VE BUILT THIS OUT, THAT'S ABOVE YOUR ESTIMATES, THAT'S JUST MONEY IN THE BANK BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY PUT ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN. AND NOW WE'RE REDUCING THE GROWTH. SO UNLESS IT STAYS AT 3% GROWTH, WHICH I FIND HARD TO BELIEVE, FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, I DO THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A TIME WHEN IT DOES.

AND TO ME, THIS GETS EVEN BETTER.

BUT I THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING BY BEING CONSERVATIVE WITH OUR BUDGETING BECAUSE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO NOT RAISE PEOPLE'S RATES AND LOWER THEM IN THE FUTURE THAN IT IS TO PROMISE THEM, NO, RATE, BECAUSE THEY'LL SEE IT AS A PROMISE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN HIT THEM WITH A 10% INCREASE.

I DON'T THINK MERCEDES ARE SET UP AS WELL AS WE ARE RIGHT NOW.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: NO, I DON'T COME, AND I WILL SAY THIS AND I KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO ARTICULATE WILL MAKE SENSE.

FROM A PRACTITIONER AND ADMINISTRATIVELY WILL NOT MAKE SENSE POLITICALLY. BUT EVERY YEAR THAT WE DON'T INCREASE RATES IS ACTUALLY A RATE DECREASE.

EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT -- EVEN THOUGH THE PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING MUCH LESS MONEY, WE ARE ACTUALLY BECAUSE WE HAVE INCREASED COSTS, WATER, CHEMICALS, ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.

SO EVERY YEAR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE A WEIGHT INCREASE OF, 3% TO COVER INFLATION, THAT'S ACTUALLY TECHNICALLY A DECREASED.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: THAT'S RIGHT. I DON'T GO AHEAD AND TELL PEOPLE THAT BY NOT MAKING IT VULNERABLE GO UP --

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: I KNOW IT DOESN'T SOUND GOOD, BUT IT ACTUALLY IS TRUE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT OUT. I DON'T THINK ANYONE ELSE IS SET UP AS GOOD AS THIS. I DO THINK WHENEVER WE START

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TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECT WITH MANVILLE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S

BUILT INTO THESE -- >> IT IS.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: OKAY, WILL, THAT WOULD BE MY ONE AREA TO FLAG AS A POSSIBLE CONCERN. BUT IF THAT'S ALREADY IN HERE, THEN THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE ECONOMY WILL GO, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL GO, SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO UNLESS WE SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERESTIMATE WHAT GROWTH HAPPENS, THAT WOULD BE THE CRITICAL. WE ALREADY HAVE THAT DOWN VERY

LOW. >> MAYOR SNYDER: WE MIGHT HAVE

TO GO NEGATIVE AT THIS POINT. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: ALMOST.

WE'RE ONLY PROJECTING A COUPLE PERCENTAGE OF GROWTH.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: YOU GUYS ARE DOING AWESOME.

I THINK YOU GUYS KNOW WE'VE CANCELED MEETINGS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES AND THINGS AND ALSO WE PASSED RESOLUTIONS. I TOLD -- PASSED THE RESOLUTION AND WE'VE GOT VERY SMART PEOPLE AND THEY'LL KEEP WORKING ON IT, AND THEN WE'LL KEEP WORKING ON HOUR SIDE ON APPROVING DEVELOPMENT. AND I'M CONFIDENT WE WILL GET TO WE'RE NOT RAISING WATER RATES ANYMORE.

AND -- SO I TOLD YOU. SMART PEOPLE AND YOU GUYS ARE PROVING IT. AND NOW YOU'VE GIVEN US A TASK.

WE'VE GOT FOUR YEARS TO EITHER FIND A WAY TO DEVELOP JUST A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN 3.3%, WHATEVER IT WAS.

OR TO FIND A WAY TO SQUEEZE OUT 2% TO WHERE MY HOPE IS WE NEVER RAISE MONEY AGAIN. WE JUST KEEP IT THE SAME, AND YEARS FROM NOW, MAYBE WE HAVE SOME KIND OF INCREASED.

BUT -- >> CITY MANAGER EARP: IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY POSSIBLE ALSO BECAUSE OF THE EDC REIMBURSING THE PROJECTS THAT WERE ON THE TAXPAYER TO HELP COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS. WHEN THOSE HORRIBLE PEOPLE ON

THE EDC HELPED DO THIS. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: YES.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: DON'T LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THAT.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: EDC DID WHAT IT SHOULD DO.

>> THEN ALSO OUR GOAL IS TO TRANSITION FROM EDC TO THE TOURS THREE TO REIMBURSE THOSE. BUT IT'S NOT A POSITION TO DO THAT TODAY. BUT THAT'S THE LONG-RANGE GOAL.

AND THEN JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY REVIEWING OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND EXPENDITURES SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY BE AS ACCURATE AS POSSIBLE.

I THINK THAT'S THE PART THAT GETS COMPLICATED, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND YET ALL THESE TOURS, DISTRICTS AND ALL THESE THINGS WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND MONEY TODAY TO GET MONEY LATER. AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE MOVING ALL OF THIS AROUND TO WHERE THE MONEY COMES IN LATER, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A WINDFALL FOR JAMES TO GO BUY NEW CARS.

IT'S GOING TO BE REIMBURSING SOME OF THESE THINGS TO WHERE WE BASICALLY KEEP THE BALL ROLLING, AND THEN WE HAVE MORE MONEY TO REINVEST MAYBE THE EDC IS INVESTED IN A PARK NEXT TIME BECAUSE THAT'S AN ALLOWED EXPENSE.

BUT WE'RE GETTING TO MEET GETTING THE NECESSITIES DONE FIRST AND THE PRIORITIES, AND THEN ONCE THE MEGASITE AREA DEVELOPMENTS AND THOSE THINGS, IN THREE OR FOUR YEARS FROM NOW, WHOEVER'S UP HERE IS GOING TO HAVE A FUN TIME BECAUSE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SQUEEZE EVERY PENNY, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SPEND IT ALL. SO IT'S GOING TO BE NICE.

>> SO MYRA, I GET A MOTION AND APPROVAL OF THE UTILITY FUND AND IMPACT FEE FUND LONG-RANGE BUDGET?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: IT AS PRESENTED.

>> AS PRESENTED, MAYOR. >> WE HAVE TO GIVE SOMEBODY AN

OPPORTUNITY. >> THIS IS HIS --

>> THIS IS HIS THING. >> CAN I DO THAT?

>> I'LL BE QUIET. >> WE'LL CALL IT THE -- THE SHORT UTILITY FUND PRESENTED AND AS APPROVED.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? ALL RIGHT, HEARING NONE, PLEASE

CALL THE VOTE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION.

THE -- WHICH REQUIRED A PUBLIC HEARING DO WE NEED TO OPEN THE

PUBLIC HEARING FIRST BEFORE ANY >> MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD: T

AX BASE. >> CITY ATTORNEY PALUMBO: I

THINK THAT'S AFTER THE BUDGET. >> BECAUSE THESE ARE AMENDMENTS TO THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW. THESE ARE GETTING THE FINAL BUDGET THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON.

THAT'S HOW I WOULD LOOK AT IT. >> YEAH.

AND CYP. THE CIP IS PART OF THE OVERALL BUDGET. BUT WE'RE NOW GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT THE OPERATING FUNDS.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CLARIFIES IT OR NOT.

>> OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING? >> WELL, JUST SEE IF ONE OF THE TWO PEOPLE HERE WANT TO SPEAK.

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>> MAYOR SNYDER: IF IT. MOTION PASSES, 7-0.

OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING. 9:26 P.M.

IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COME UP AND STUMPY ASKING FOR

INCREASES. >> I'M HERE.

IF YOU DON'T MIND. [LAUGHTER]

>> THIS IS OVER THE BUDGET. ONE THING I'LL SAY PLEASE LOOK THE -- THAT'S WHERE WE REVIEW THAT.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN A HOT TOPIC LATELY.

ONE THING I'LL SAY IS I'M NOT A STATUTORY -- AGENCIES ARE ABLE TO ACCESS WITHOUT A WARRANT. AND SO IT'S A LITTLE DISTURBING AND KIND OF INFRINGES ON A LOT OF PEOPLE RIGHTS.

SO SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. ALSO, TWO, I ATTENDED THE WORK SESSION. WAS ABLE TO PRESENT FUNDS.

ONE THING I'LL SAY, I KNOW HOWARD WAS UP HERE, A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO ASKING FOR AID IN CONFERENCE FUNDS AND FOR PNC AND ONE THING I'LL SAY IS WE HAVE A LOT OF GRANT BOARD MEMBERS AND A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY HAS BEEN LOST THROUGH SOME OF TURNOVER AS WE WARNED. AND AS WE ARE IN A CRITICAL TIME DOING AMENDMENTS FOR THE EDC AND SEVERAL BIG DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH HIS PROPERTY. GOOD THAT WE LOOK AT SOME -- FOR PNC AND BECAUSE I MEAN, IF THERE'S AT LEAST ONE GOOD DEVELOPMENT, I THINK THAT COMES OUT OF IT, THAT COULD SAVE THE CITY OVER THE AMOUNT OF THE CONFERENCE ITSELF.

SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. I THINK THIS IS CONFERENCE THIS IN OCTOBER 16TH. SO WE'RE PROBABLY CUTTING IT CLOSE IN THE FISCAL YEAR. AND SO SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.

IT'S ABOUT THOUSAND HUNDRED DOLLARS.

I'LL PACK MY OWN SANDWICHES. IDLE SNACKS OR ANYTHING.

AND I'LL FIND MY OWN HOTEL. I DO THINK THAT SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT WE CAN BRING INTO HUTTO FOR ZONING.

AND I'LL TAKE A TEST. I DON'T CARE.

AND I'LL DO WHATEVER IS REQUIRED TO GET THAT DONE.

SO JUST WANT TO COME BACK AND SAY THOSE THINGS.

AS WE CONSIDER THE BUDGET FOR 2027.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: IF YOU GO EMPTY, PAY FOR YOUR TICKET AND WE QUIZ YOU AND YOU DON'T PASS, WILL YOU PASS BACK?

>> 100%. I'LL PUT THAT IN WRITING.

I DON'T MIND. [LAUGHTER]

>> ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE TURNOVER AND KNOWLEDGE LEAVING, AND THANK YOU FOR VOLUNTEERING TO GO BECAUSE THEY COULD BE A BEAST AND BEING WILLING TO DO THAT AND BRING THAT BACK BECAUSE YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN PEOPLE MOVE ON, THAT KNOWLEDGE IS LOST.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO STEP UP, AND LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I WAS IN FAVOR OF PEOPLE GOING TO TRAINING, AND IF YOU CAN CAPTURE WHATEVER YOU BRING BACK AND CODIFY IT IN YOUR LEARNING AND PASS IT ON COME ON THEN.

THAT'S A REALLY GOOD USE OF OUR DOLLARS.

>> YEAH, NOT YOUR PROBLEM. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT. I THINK RIGHT NOW IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT A WHILE, AND THEN ALSO, TO, IS THAT YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, IT'S KIND OF GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF NEW WORK WITH THESE CITIES ARE NOT USED TO, AND SO IT'S GOOD TO KIND OF CATCH THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. NOT YOU.

[LAUGHTER] >> AWESOME.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: I ASSUME THAT WE'RE SETTING OUR EMPLOYEES TO THESE CONFERENCES IS THAT A FAIR ASSUMPTION?

>> I BELIEVE THERE IS TRAINING DOLLARS FOR THE ONE SINGLE STAFF MEMBER. I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THEM ARE GLAD YOU DID TRAINING HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN VERY

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UNDER A LOT OF SCRUTINY. SO WE HAVE REALLY REDUCED HOUR TRAINING EXPENSE AND EXPENDITURES.

SO I CAN VALIDATE THAT ALL PLANNING STAFF ARE GOING TO THE

CONFERENCE. >> IS A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION, IF WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE GOING TO THESE TRAINING CONFERENCES, THEN CAN THEY BRING BACK THAT INFORMATION AND DO TRAINING IN-HOUSE? AND IS THAT A GOOD ECONOMICAL RESOURCE FOR THAT PERSON BECAUSE THAT ENGINEERING EARTH STAFF PEOPLE AND IF THEY DO, THEY ALREADY HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT COULD BE USED TO TRAIN AIR NEW INCOMING PNC PEOPLE?

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: I WOULD SAY OUR STAFF DEFINITELY HAS KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY CAN TRAIN ON.

I WOULD SAY EVERYONE KNOWS THIS I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF GOING TO THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT STAFF PERSONALLY TO COOK THE WHOLE I GO AND THEN COME BACK AND TRY TO TEACH OTHER PEOPLE IS NOT USUALLY HAVE -- BECAUSE HE WENT AND HEARD SOMEONE TALK.

THAT'S USUALLY MORE ABOUT WELL, IT WASN'T THAT CPS AND ATTORNEYS HAVE CONTINUING EDUCATION. ASSISTANT OF CONCEPT.

AND I THINK IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BECAUSE ARGUABLY THEY TOUCH EVERYTHING THAT IS DEVELOPMENT THAT ROLLS THROUGH THE CITY, THAT NEEDS TO BE PLOTTED OR SOLD. SO I DO THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE ROYALS VERY WELL, AND THEY UNDERSTAND HOW TO I WOULD SAY ADJUDICATE MAYBE IS THE RIGHT WORD, BUT HOW TO MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT COMES BEFORE THEM.

>> COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS: AND I KNOW THE DYNAMICS OF THE LEGISLATIVE STATE, BUT HOW -- AND EVERYTHING.

BUT SOME OF THAT BASIC KNOWLEDGE WE COULD CREATE MATERIAL EITHER VIDEOS OR WEBINAR MATERIALS, OR EVEN HAVE AN IN-HOUSE WORKSHOP WHERE IT'S JUST THE BASIC THINGS ABOUT HOW THE PLANNING PROCESS OR -- YOU KNOW, . JUST GETTING THOSE BASIC THINGS FOR PEOPLE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE

GOING TO BE -- OKAY, NEVER MIND. >> HERE'S WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT TRAINING FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. IF YOU TAKE -- AND MAYBE YOU GOT TO GO TO DALLAS. I THINK SOMETIMES IT HELPS IF EVERYBODY GOES, SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T.

SO IF THEY TEACH A CLASS ON RECENT LAW CHANGES THAT WILL, NEXT YEAR, AND THE CITY ATTORNEY GOES, SHE CAN GO THROUGH AND TAKE HER OWN NOTES AND SHE UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN RELAY IT BACK TO US, IN A MEMO.

AND TO ME, THAT'S A GOOD USE. BAD USE IS ALL SEVEN OF US GO UP THERE AND GET HOTEL ROOMS AND THEN THE EXACT SAME INFORMATION SHE'S LEARNING. NOW, IN MY MIND, THERE IS SOME CONTINUING EDUCATION THAT'S IMPORTANT.

THEN ANYBODY WHO'S BEEN IN ANY KIND OF BUSINESS -- KNOWS THAT THERE'S CONFERENCES THAT ARE WORTH GOING TO, AND THERE ARE CONFERENCES THAT AREN'T. SO IN REAL ESTATE, YOU CAN GO TO ALL THESE REAL ESTATE CLASSES AND LEARN HOW TO NEGOTIATE BETTER BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE ART OF NEGOTIATION HAS NEVER CHANGED, AND SO YOU GO TO EAT AND WINE AND DINE.

YOU MEET WITH PEOPLE AND IT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS FOR A LOT OF TIMES. SO TO BECOME A POLICE, I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO TRAIN. THE MINUTE WE HAVE AN INCIDENT, THE FIRST THING I ALWAYS TELL THE CITY MANAGERS, THE FIRST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY OR THE PLAINTIFF'S GOING TO COME UP, AND THEY HAVE BEEN TRAINED IN YOUR EARS. THAT'S WHY EVEN THOUGH THE GUY WAS ON METH AND FOUGHT BACK, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED, AND THEY'RE GOING TO BLAME THE POLICE FOR LACK OF TRAINING, BUT IF DADDY'S GOT -- IF SHE'S A CITY EMPLOYEE AND WE SENT HER EVERY YEAR TO GET CONTINUING EDUCATION, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SHE'S LEARNING BECAUSE UNLESS THE LAWS CHANGE AND IT'S AN OFF-YEAR, SHE IS JUST GOING TO GO.

AND SO ALL THESE ORGANIZATIONS HAVE THINGS.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE SCRUTINIZE A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN ALSO TO KEEP THE EMPLOYEES MORE SOMETIMES SOME OF THEM ARE GONE BETWEEN THE DAYS OF ON HOLIDAYS AND THE SICK DAYS AND A CONFERENCE DAYS. IT'S LIKE A THIRD OF THE YEAR.

A COUPLE OF THEM WEREN'T EVEN AT WORK.

THEY WERE OUT. AND SO IT WAS LIKE, HOW DO WE GET MORE STUFF DONE, AND THEN WHEN WE READ, AND SO WE HAVE TO WITH REALLY TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONES YOU REALLY, REALLY HAVE TO GO TO AND YOU SHOULD GO TO. AND THE REST OF THEM, LIKE US GOING TO TML TO LEARN ABOUT LAUNCH AGES, DADDY CAN DO THAT BECAUSE ALL OF US JUST PAY OUT OF HOUR POCKET TO GO.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE CHANGES NOT THAT IT WAS ABUSED BEFORE.

BUT SCRUTINIZE EVERY SINGLE NICKEL TO GET OUT OF THIS RAFT.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: AND ARGUABLY THAT'S WHAT THE PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD BE BEFORE YOU HAS.

THERE IS ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP JUST BECAUSE I'M WATCHING THE CHANNEL HERE, COMES THE STAFF CHATTING.

ON THE FLOCK. WE DO HAVE NON LICENSE PLATE

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READER, FLOCK BRANDED SECURITY CAMERAS.

THAT WE HAVE PURCHASED AND THAT WE USE AND IT'S PREDOMINANTLY IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND WE KNOW THAT PAKISTAN STATS.

PUBLIC WORKS IS GOING TO GET ONE TO PUT UP ON A WATER TOWER, AND I STOPPED THAT PURCHASE RIGHT NOW UNTIL COUNCIL DECIDES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO I DO KNOW THAT IT IS BRANDED FLOCK.

BUT IF WE THROW OUT FLOCK, YOU MIGHT BE THROWING UP.

MAYBE THE FAST WATER FOR THE SECURITY CAMERAS BECAUSE WE BOUGHT THOSE AND WE WOULD HAVE TO BASICALLY PULL THEM ALL DOWN AND GO BUY SOMETHING ELSE TO REPLACE THEM.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: WHAT IT JUST BE MORE SPECIFIC WHEN WE GET INTO THAT CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: CORRECT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT DO YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE BUDGET? NO? [LAUGHTER] WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 9:37.

P.M. THAT'S A GOOD PRESENTATION, ONLY HAD ONE SPEAKER AND HE LEFT. SO --

>> OKAY, SO WE'LL MOVE TO THE OPERATING FUNDS.

SO THE FIRST ONE BIG ONE GENERAL FUND.

SO JUST IN SUMMARY, THE TOTAL REVENUES ARE STILL THE SAME AS YOU LAST SAW. NO CHANGE.

SO THEY'RE AT 37,301,126. TOTAL EXPENDITURES ARE AT $37,300,032. ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT DOES INCLUDE TWO CHANGES OF CARRY OR WHAT? OH, I DON'T HAVE A POWERPOINT FOR IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE POWERPOINTS.

>> WHERE POINTS? >> DIRECTOR BARRETT: NO.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: I'LL PAY ATTENTION MA.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: OKAY, SO SORRY.

YES YEAH, I INCLUDE THE SUMMARIES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PACKET. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE.

SO THAT CHANGE HERE FROM LAST TIME YOU SAW IT IS TWO MINOR ITEMS. ONE IN STREET WE CARRIED OVER A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR $5,000 INTO 2027.

AND AN ENGINEERING WE HAD TO CARRY OVER OF 8,000 IN PROFESSIONAL FEES. THAT WAS ABOUT 3,013,000 TOTAL OF THOSE TWO ITEMS. SO WHERE WE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A AN ATTITUDE FUND BALANCE OF ABOUT 13,000 BASED ON THE LATEST SCENARIO, WE'RE ADDING 1,100 OR $1,094 TO FUND BALANCE. THAT BRINGS YOUR FUND BALANCE TO 11,090,550. RESERVED FOR OF 25% IS 9,188,577 AND YOUR FUND BALANCE PERCENTAGE FOR 2027 WOULD BE AT 30%.

>> SWEET. >> DIRECTOR BARRETT: OKAY.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT GENERAL FUND? ANYTHING YOU WANT ME TO GO INTO FURTHER?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: NO, I'VE GONE THROUGH SOME I TALKED TO JAMES ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF IT. OVERALL, I'VE TRIED TO GET -- ♪ REVENUE AND THERE'S NOTHING CRAZY, THEN I DON'T DIG IN ON LINE BY LINE AS I PROMISED, I MADE TO JAMES A COUPLE YEARS AGO. SO AS , IN THE OLD DAYS OF STUDYING HERE UNTIL 4:00 IN THE MORNING.

GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE LINE BECAUSE I THINK FOR ME, ONE THING YOU GUYS -- LEFT EAR. I DIDN'T SEE IT THIS YEAR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID IT. BUT LAST YEAR, I FORGOT WHAT YOU CALLED IT. BUT YOU HAD A LITTLE COMMITTEE INSIDE CITY HALL. THE.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: THE SUNSET.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: THE SUNSET. OKAY, SO THAT TO ME IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I FIGURE IF WE TELL YOU AS A COUNCIL, WE KEEP SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO RAISE TAXES TO FIGURE IT OUT.

THEN THAT FORCES YOU ALL TO GO TO EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD AND GO, OKAY, LOOK, WHAT ARE YOU SPENDING MONEY ON THAT YOU REALLY DON'T NEED? BECAUSE YOU GOT THESE ONES AND WE CAN'T FUND THEM. AND WHAT I KEEP SEEING YOU GUYS DOING IS ENDING THINGS AND STARTING NEW THINGS THAT MAY BE MORE EFFICIENT, QUICKER, AND SO AS I SEE THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO DO, TO GO, NOT AS MUCH OVERSIGHT BECAUSE WE STAY IN OUR LITTLE WINDOW OF MONEY AND WE GET TO SPEND IT HOW WE WANT TO, KNOWING THAT YOU GUYS GO OUTSIDE OF THAT THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'RE NOT RAISING TAXES AND NO ONE'S GETTING RAISES AND ALL THAT OTHER STUFF.

SO I THINK YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT ON THAT.

AND YOU GUYS DON'T SEEM UPSET THAT WE'VE KIND OF TEST YOU WITH THAT. IN FACT, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE YOU GUYS -- SUNSET COMMITTEE AND OTHER STUFF, BECAUSE YOU GUYS LAST YEAR, I THINK ELIMINATED CELL PHONES FROM EMPLOYEES, ALLOWANCES, WHICH YEARS BEFORE WE TRIED TO DO THAT, IT WAS LIKE A WAR UP HERE TO TRY TO DO THAT, AND YOU GUYS -- SO I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME THINGS THAT WILL.

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OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO THAT ARE MINOR.

I DON'T THINK THAT ANYTHING THAT'S MAJOR THAT IS GOING TO MAKE YOUR LIFE HELL FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND IT'LL BE REALLY EASY FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: AND YOU CAN JUST ASK DEPARTMENT HEADS, TWO, BECAUSE I'M ALWAYS CALLING THEM TO GET -- SEE WHERE WE CAN.

SO YEAH. THAT HELPS.

>> ANYTIME YOU GOT A CFO, PEOPLE ARE LIKE.

OH, OH MY GOD, WHY IS SHE CALLING ME.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: I'M THE LEAST FAVORITE PERSON AROUND.

IT'S OKAY. >> MAYOR SNYDER: IT'S NOT THAT BAD TO BE A LITTLE BIT DISLIKED. I KIND OF LIKE IT.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: I'M USED TO IT.

IT'S OKAY. THERE YOU GO.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: SO ONE THING I WANTED TO CLARIFY JUST I GUESS FOR MY PURPOSES AND ANYBODY ELSE ON THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING, I KNOW THAT YOU ALL APPROVED THAT, AND I THINK .

SO CAN WE JUST RUN THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE IT ON RECORD AND I HAVE IT STRAIGHT?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: YEAH, SO I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A COUPLE PEOPLE WITH HRC AND PHILOSOPHICALLY, NOBODY CONCEPTUALLY, NOBODY'S AGAINST THE IDEA OF.

BUT THEY HAVEN'T MET YET ABOUT --

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: OKAY. >> MAYOR SNYDER: SO I THINK AS LONG AS WE DON'T SPEND THE MONEY, WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THINGS. IF THEY DON'T MEET OR GIVE US A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: SO I GUESS MAYBE JUST TO CLARIFY OUR COMMENTS, SO WE'LL DO THE RESOURCE CENTER LIKE YOU PROPOSED, AND WE WILL JUST SEND THAT MONEY ASIDE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. AND THEN ON SACRED HEART, WE ARE FUNDING THAT ONE FOR THE 11 FOR 43.

SO WHEN YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, YOU'LL BE AT THE 210,000 FOR 43 THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: OKAY, NOW, WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR THAT SACRED

HEART YET. >> DIRECTOR BARRETT: DO WE WANT TO DO THAT TONIGHT THAN SO THAT WE CAN START WITH THAT PROCESS,

THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR OR -- >> MAYOR SNYDER: YEAH, BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE 16,000 -- BUILDING FUND.

AND WE STILL HAVE 50,000. OR DOES THAT GO TO 40?

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: IT WAS 240.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: NO, YEAH. MAYBE I MISSED THE EMAIL.

DID WE GET THE MORE INFORMATION ON THE SACRED HEART?

>> GOT DISTRIBUTED. THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY COMMITTED ORIGINALLY PROVIDED A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THEY HAD ORIGINALLY PROPOSED.

THE ONE THING THAT WAS MISSING FOR ME, I MEAN, THEY HAD A PRETTY GOOD PROPOSAL AND I WOULD SUPPORT IT, THE ONE THING THAT WAS MISSING IS I ASKED THEM SPECIFICALLY IF THEY HAD THE CAPACITY TO MEET THEIR GOAL OF THE INCREASED NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT THEY WANTED -- BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS A BIG STICKING POINT FOR COUNCIL WAS HOW MANY RESIDENTS WERE BEING IMPACTED FROM THE WAY THAT. MR. RIVERA EXPLAINED, THE WAY THAT THEY FUNCTION AND THE WAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN SET UP AND THE INCREASES THEY'VE HAD OVER THE YEAR, I WOULD LEAN MORE ON CONFIDENT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO HIT THOSE GOALS AND PHILOSOPHICALLY, I WAS IN FAVOR OF IF WE HAVE THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO MEET A NEED LIKE A SERVICES LIKE HEALTH CARE, WITHIN THE CITY, THROUGH A GROUP LIKE THAT, AND THEN STRENGTHEN THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO SERVE A BIT MORE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S ALWAYS THE WAY THAT THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD INVESTMENT OF MONEY THAT WE SET ASIDE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE DID A COUPLE OF OTHER GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS.

SO WE WOULD HAVE HAD THAT FUND. >> IS THAT THE EMAIL THAT THE

THE I WAS ALSO COPIED ON? >> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: NO, I SENT IT ONLY AND LAURA DISTRIBUTED IT TO COUNCIL.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: SEPTEMBER 1ST? OUR COMMISSIONS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT GROUP, TWO, RIGHT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: NO, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT CAME UP IS THAT THEY WERE INVITED TO BE PART OF THE RESOURCE FAIR.

>> YEAH, IT SAYS CONFIRMED PARTICIPATION IN THE RESOURCE

FAIR SEPTEMBER 17TH. >> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: YEAH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE ONE OF THE VENDORS.

YEAH. >> MAYOR SNYDER: SEPTEMBER 1ST

OR THE 31ST? >> SEPTEMBER 1ST.

>> TUESDAY. >> MAYOR SNYDER: IT WAS TUESDAY? SEPTEMBER -- SEPTEMBER 1ST. OKAY, SORRY.

OKAY. >> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: AND ALSO, HOW WAS THE CONVERSATION? HOW DID IT GO WITH HRC?

>> MAYOR SNYDER: THEY'RE GOING TO MEET.

NO ONE CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID NO.

>> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: WILL THEY WORK FOR THEM OR NOT?

>> YOU SAID THAT INCOME ELIGIBILITY --

>> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: YEAH, IS THAT FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.

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SO YOU HAD TO MAKE THAT MUCH FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.

LAST YEAR THEY SERVED 30 RESIDENTS.

47 SO FAR THIS YEAR, AND THEY HOPE TO GET TO 60.

>> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: THAT'S THEIR GOAL.

THEIR BIGGEST FEAR IS JUST HAVING A CONSISTENT SPACE TO

DELIVER SERVICES. >> THEY SAID TRANSPORTATION.

SO WHERE DO PEOPLE GO TO GET HELP AT?

>> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY SET UP LAST YEAR OR THE PREVIOUS YEARS.

UNITED METHODIST ALWAYS OFFERS. THE RELATIONSHIP WAS THERE.

SO I'M GLAD THAT THEY'RE ATTENDING THE RESOURCE FAIR TO COVER MORE SERVICES.

WHAT ARE WE DOING? >> MAYOR SNYDER: WE CAN, TAKE ACTION OR WE CAN MOVE ON. HOW IS THAT PUSH?

>> HORRY SUPPOSED TO -- ORDINANCE HERE.

>> WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? >> OH, YES.

>> AND NOW INDIVIDUAL SIGNATURES.

WELL, SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE, WHICH WE DO -- TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED. AND THEN THAT MOVES YOU INTO THE

TAX RATE ITEM, WHICH IS UP NEXT. >> MAYOR SNYDER: WHICH IS 9-4.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: CORRECT. >> AND THE LANGUAGE IS IN YOUR

AGENDA, SHEET. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: IT DOES

REQUIRE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. >> MAYOR SNYDER: I'M JUST SAYING THAT 9.3 AGENDA ITEM THIS INDIVIDUAL SIGNATURES BY COUNCIL MEMBERS ON PAGE 137. AND THAT'S THE ORDINANCE.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: YES, THAT'S THE BUDGET ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE REPORTED OUT, EACH COUNCIL MEMBER VOTED IN THE ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET.

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE BUDGET AS PROVIDED BY

THE FINANCE DIRECTOR. >> SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 106, DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THAT YOU NEED TO READ INTO THE RECORD.

>> INTO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

>> WHICH PAGE? >> DIRECTOR BARRETT: 106.

>> I'VE SEEN THAT MOTION I MOVED TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 0-2026 --

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: 8044. >> 044 OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, ADOPTING THE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2026-2027 BEGINNING OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH,

2027 FOR THE CITY OF. >> MAYOR SNYDER: WELL, TEXAS.

>> SECOND. >> I THINK WE CAN STOP MOTION.

IT'S NOT FUNDING SACRED HEART, I THINK WE CAN GO BACK AND FUND THEM. BUT I STILL HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR THEM IN TERMS OF IF THEY'RE MEETING THE CAMERA.

I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SPENT BECAUSE IF THEY'RE MEETING, THERE'S ANOTHER ORGANIZATION THAT I THINK DOES THE SAME THING BUT IF THEY'RE COMING HERE AND THEY'RE MEETING IN SPACE IN A CHURCH AND THEY'RE SPENDING $15,000 FOR 16 PRESIDENT. TO MEET, IT SEEMS AWFULLY HIGH.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE, ARE THE DOCTORS GETTING PAID TO COME HERE AND ARE THEY VOLUNTEERING? WHERE IS THAT MONEY ACTUALLY GOING TO? THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF SERVICES FOR 15 GRAND. I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT ALL THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE IN THIS, IT SEEMS LIKE MORE LIKE THERE

WAS -- >> THERE WAS ALSO A FOLLOW UP EMAIL FROM SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD ASKED HIM THAT HE

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NEEDED TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION ON.

THAT WAS MY RECAP OF OUR CONVERSATION.

BUT THEN HE FOLLOWED UP THAT HE SENT DOCUMENTATION AND THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND SAID THAT WAS THE FOLLOW UP EMAIL

FROM HIM. >> MAYOR SNYDER: DID HE RESPOND?

>> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA: ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS --

>> ARE CONTEMPLATING THIS AND I DON'T MEAN TO GIVE YOU AN OUTPUT, BUT WE REALLY NEED FOR OUR BUDGETING PURPOSES IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING AND THEN HOW YOU ALL DIVVY IT UP, AND YOU CAN STILL MAKE THAT DECISION.

HOPEFULLY, NOW. >> MAYOR SNYDER: THAT'S WHAT I MEAN. WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW.

THAT'S WHY I SAY SECOND, THIS MOTION BECAUSE WE CAN KEEP EVERYTHING LIKE IT IS. WE STILL HAVE 50,000 TO DECIDE.

WE CAN STILL MOVE IT AROUND LATER ON, BUT WE CAN MOVE IT

AFTER AFTER OCTOBER 1ST. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: WELL, ONCE, OCTOBER 1ST HITS, WE ENTER INTO THE AGREEMENT AND THEN THE

MONEY GETS LOCKED IN. >> MAYOR SNYDER: RIGHT, BUT IF THERE'S A 50,000 SETTING UP IN THE FUND, WE COULD MAKE IT 40 OR

30. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: YOU CAN ALWAYS PUT MORE MONEY IN THAN WHAT YOU BUDGETED TO BY DOING A BUDGET AMENDMENT, WHICH YOU CAN DO ARGUABLY IS --

>> MAYOR SNYDER: YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY FROM SOMEBODY.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: YOU CAN'T TAKE IT AWAY ONCE WE GET INTO

THE CONTRACT. >> THEN WHAT WAS ASKED REQUESTED

ANYWAY? >> DIRECTOR BARRETT: SO MAY WE COME AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO FINISH THIS MOTION TO GET THE BUDGET ADOPTED AND APPROVED, I HAVE ONE MORE AREA I NEED TO TALK FIRST, AND THAT'S THE HOTEL MOTEL FUND.

SO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT FROM THE LAST MEETING, THERE'S NOT BEEN ANYTHING APPROVED, NO EVENTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE HEART FUNDS. SO --

>> FOR ME, I'M STILL WAITING ON STAFF TO BRING BACK WHAT I REMEMBER WAS WAS A PRESENTATION. WHAT EVERYONE WANTED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON AND WE KIND OF PUSHED BACK AND SAID BRING SOMETHING ELSE BACK. SO --

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: OKAY, SO MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.

SO I APOLOGIZE. SO THEN I GUESS WE CAN APPROVE IT AS IT IS, AND THEN WE'LL NEED TO BRING BACK THE HEART FUNDS AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT. YEAH, FOLLOWING DIRECTION.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: YEAH, SO I MEAN, BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE LIKE, NOT PICKING ON ABBY, BUT I THINK SHE WANTED LIKE 15 GRAND FOR THREE OR FOUR CONCERTS. AND WE WERE LIKE, HEY, COME AND BRING US BACK SOME SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THE 68 GRANTS FOR ROADS, AND WE WERE LIKE, CAN YOU GUYS NOT DO $50.

SO I THINK WE'RE WAITING ON ALL THAT BEFORE WE APPROVE IT.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: OKAY. MY BAD, SORRY.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: SO WE MAY SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: WILL YOU PLEASE CONTINUE WITH YOUR MOTION THEN. [LAUGHTER]

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET THEN?

>> TO MAKE IT CLEAR IN THE RECORD THESE MOTIONS THAT YOU VOTED ON CAN CHANGE THE BUDGET TO PICK UP.

SO IT'S THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED AND AMENDED.

YEAH. ARE YOU CLEAR WITH THAT QUESTION I'M WITH THAT, AS AMENDED. SPINNAKER AS SUBMITTED AND

PRESENTED TODAY. >> YEAH.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

ALL VERY MUCH. >> MAYOR SNYDER: THANK YOU.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: Y'ALL ARE? [LAUGHTER]

>> MAYOR SNYDER: OKAY. >> WE HAVE TWO MORE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: THAT WAS ITEM 9.4 WE'RE.

[9.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-173 ratifying the property tax increase reflected in the City of Hutto Fiscal Year 2026-2027 operating budget. (Alberta Barrett)]

>> THAT WAS 9.3. >> WE'RE NOW DOING 9.3.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: OKAY. >> TAX INCREASE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: TRANSLATION. AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF RESOLUTION RATIFYING THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN THE CITY OF HUTTO FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO 2027, OPERATING BUDGET.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ALBERTA BARRETT, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD, AGAIN, THE BUDGET THAT YOU JUST APPROVED WAS INCLUDING THE -- OR THE TAX RATE OF 0.397011, WHICH IS A NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS THE GENERAL FUND WOULD RECEIVE 16,348,414 THAT SERVE INTERESTED IN SEEING WOULD RECEIVE 6,080,574 TOTAL TAXES OF 23,152,988. SO WITH THAT, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, THE MOTION IS THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE FOR THIS

ITEM. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

IT'S A WEIRD WORDING THAT SAYING IT'S A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE ON NO NEW REVENUE. BUT -- AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE PROPOSAL FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

BUT IF I UNDERSTAND THE POTENTIAL OF, YOU CAN'T RAISE YOUR TAXES MORE THAN THAT LESS AMOUNT OF INFLATION OR 3.5%.

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THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO BELOW REVENUE THIS YEAR, RED.

THIS IS A 4.33% INCREASE. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: IT DEPENDS ON HOW IT ENDS UP BEING MURDERED, BECAUSE IT COULD BE THAT IT'S NOT THE TAX DOLLARS. IT'S ON THE TAX RATE IT JUST DEPENDS. BUT IF IT WAS ON DOLLARS, THEN YES, IT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO INCREASE EVEN LOWER.

THAT'S WHY I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HARD WORK BECAUSE THEY STARTED PUSHING THIS AND STARTED COMING OUT.

THERE WAS SOME CITIES OUT THERE THAT WERE CROSSING THEIR FINGERS AND HOPING SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS, AND THEY'RE RAISING TAXES AND HIRING PEOPLE. AND WE'RE KEEPING THE PEOPLE WE GOT AND HELPING THEM BE WELL, AND KNOWING THAT POTENTIALLY.

IT'S AMAZING THAT A NO NEW REVENUE YEAR COULD BE TOO HIGH GOING FORWARD. BUT THIS IS STILL GENERATES A NO NEW REVENUE GENERATES 1.35 MILLION IN MORE MONEY.

>> NEW PROPERTIES. >> MAYOR SNYDER: AND STUFF.

SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN WHAT IT HAS BEEN USUALLY IT'S A MILLION FIVE I WANT TO SAY A MILLION SEVEN.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: YEAH, I THINK LAST YEAR WAS A MILLION

SEVEN. >> MAYOR SNYDER: I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO SEE A TAX INCREASES AND GO, I KNEW YOU GUYS WERE RAISING TAXES. IT'S STILL ON REVENUE.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: BUT THAT IS THAT REQUIRED WORDING AS WELL.

12 WHEN THEY YOU, EITHER WAY YOU DO IT.

ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS OR 1202 INCREASE

TAXES? >> YOU'RE FUNNY.

[LAUGHTER] >> MAYOR SNYDER: ALL RIGHT.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: THAT MAXIMUM TAX RATE AND LAST GO ROUND. YOU'D HAVE TO DO LIKE A RECALL THAT MOTION AND BOTH TO RESCIND IT REDOING THAT MOTION.

SO I THINK YOU'RE ACTUALLY PIG. >> MAYOR SNYDER: AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THAT REVENUE RATE CAN GO UP FOR 10 YEARS AND SEVEN YEARS NOW, I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE RATE OF PAY ATTENTION TO THE -- ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE MOVE TO RATIFY THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE REFLECTED IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO 2027 THE

CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION, QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[9.5. Conduct a public hearing and related items in consideration and possible action to approve Ordinance No. O-2026-045 of the City of Hutto, Texas, levying Ad Valorem Taxes for the use and support of the municipal government for the City of Hutto for the Fiscal Year 2026-2027. (Alberta Barrett)]

THIS IS THE FINAL ONE HERE AT. 9.5 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND RELATED ITEMS IN CONSIDERATION. POSSIBLE ACTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 0--- 045. OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, LIVING AT TEXAS FOR THE USE IN SUPPORT OF THE MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE CITY OF HUNTER THE FISCAL YEAR 2026 TO

2027. >> DIRECTOR BARRETT: FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. SO REQUIRED BY THE TEXAS TAX CODE, SECTION 26 TO HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ON THE TAX RATE BEFORE THE ADOPTION.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO OPEN IT FIRST AND THEN -- OR DO YOU WANT ME TO -- ANY WEIGH, IT'S 39.397011, WHICH IS NEW REVENUE RATE AND THAT THE MOTION IS THERE EXPLAINING WHAT THE INCREASE IS. I WILL PUT IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING AT 959 P.M. ONE PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THE TAX RATE? I'LL. CLOSING THE HEARING AT 959 P.M.

AND MY QUESTION IS COMING. OKAY, WE'RE PASSING REVENUE.

THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO SEE $13.37 INCREASE.

PER $100,000. AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS GOES BACK TO SOMETHING DAN OR COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON BROUGHT UP A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOR THAT REASON, AN AVERAGE HOMEOWNER IS GOING TO SEE PROBABLY A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE, LET'S SAY. I'M ASSUMING THAT REASON IS BECAUSE WHEN VALUES DROPPED COMMERCIAL USED TO BE A BIGGER PART OF THE PIE THE RESIDENTIAL AND BECAUSE COMMERCIAL HAS DROPPED MORE THAN RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S CAUSED THE PIE TO SHIFT OVER TO THE RESIDENTIAL PIECE WHERE COLLECTIVELY WE'RE ALL GOING TO PAY THE SAME AMOUNT OF TAXES, BUT THE RESIDENTIAL SHARE IS BIGGER THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE.

IS THAT ROUGHLY ABOUT CORRECT? >> I'M LOOKING AT YOU.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: OH, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME.

THAT'S HOW I WOULD INTERPRET IT. >> MAYOR SNYDER: BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO GO DOWN WITH THE COMMERCIAL SHOT UP BY 40% A YEAR. AND THE RESIDENTIAL WAS CAPPED AT 10%. THAT CAUSED THE BALLOON TO GO OVER TO THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WHICH FOR A WHILE GOT SOME CITIES I WON'T NAME THEM FOUND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND THEN NOW IT'S A PROPERTY, VALUES HAVE MODERATED AND COME DOWN NOW THEY ARE DEALING WITH MASSIVE INCREASES RIGHT NOW.

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BUT WE'RE JUST SEEING SMALL INCREASES BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE

100% OF IT. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS: I WANT TO FIND THE SHEET REAL QUICK. PREVIOUS ITEM.

WHICH WAS THE IMPACT -- >> THE IMPACT.

>> COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS: IF YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTIES THAT'S IN THAT, YOU GET TO IT.

>> AND RECOLLECTING HOW YOU CAME >> COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON: YEAH YEAH. THAT'S THE WAY I REMEMBER IT.

YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE 2526 TAX YEAR, THAT MEDIAN VALUE HOMESTEAD WAS -- FOR 2026/2027, THAT NUMBER HAS DROPPED DOWN TO 329,770. SO THERE IS A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE NO NEW REVENUE IS THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM THE SAME PROPERTIES. SO -- BUT IT'S HOW YOUR PROPERTY IS IN RELATION TO OTHER PROPERTIES, HOW YOUR INDIVIDUALLY IMPACTED. SO COMMERCIAL DROPPING IN VALUE WOULD MEAN THAT THOSE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.

IF YOU SQUEEZE THIS PART OF THE BALLOON BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN SMALLER AND THIS PART OF THE BALLOON HAS TO GET BIGGER.

AND THAT COULD CAUSE OVERALL DOLLARS DOLLARS TO GO UP.

THE OTHER THING THAT CAN MAKE VALUES GO UP IS THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME GOES DOWN. AND NOW YOU'RE PAYING A HIGHER

MULTIPLIER. >> THAT RATE GOES UP IN THAT

SCENARIO. >> IT'S THE SAME HERE.

>> YOU'RE NOT MOVING IT BACK AND FORTH.

SO THAT MAKES GOING UP IS BECAUSE ARGUABLY THAT CAME DOWN.

NOW COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ALSO SHRANK IN GALATIANS TIE.

THAT'S WHY WE END UP WITH PROPERTY OWNERS.

HAVING TO PAY A LITTLE MORE OUT OF POCKET WITH NO NEW REVENUE,

IN DECLINING VALUATION. >> MAYOR SNYDER: AND THIS TIME NEXT YEAR NONE OF THIS WILL MAKE SENSE BECAUSE --

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: WE'LL HAVE A NEW LAW IN THE BOOK.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: WE'LL HAVE SIGNIFICANT DATA CENTER MONEY AT THAT POINT, WHICH WILL MAKE THIS --

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: COUNT MY CHICKENS OUT OF THAT HATCH.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: THAT CREATES ALREADY THERE.

>> CITY MANAGER EARP: AS JANUARS THEN ALL --

>> I'M WITH YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO 195.

AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED ACTION.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND THAT THAT TAX RATE WILL RAISE MORE TAXES FOR MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS IN LAST YEAR'S TAX WITH THE TAX RATE WILL EVENTUALLY BE INCREASED BY 5.09%. AND WILL INCREASE TAXES FOR MINUTES AND OPERATIONS ON $100,000 HOME BY APPROXIMATELY

13,057 CENTS. >> AND CAN YOU ADD TO IT TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE NUMBER BECAUSE THERE IS THE ORDINANCE

THAT ACTUALLY LEVIES THE RATE. >> MAYOR SNYDER: AND TO APPROVE

THE ORDINANCE. >> SECOND.

>> THAT'S OKAY. >> MAYOR SNYDER: ANY OTHER

DISCUSSION? >> A TYPO ON THE TAX IN THE DESCRIPTION, IT SAYS TIF, TIFF, NUMBER ONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PARTNER OR NOT.

>> THAT'S JUST THE BACKUP MATERIAL.

>> WE WERE SHOWING YOU THE INFORMATION THAT WAS ON TIFF ONE. IT WAS ON TIF TWO AND THREE AS

WELL. >> NO PROBLEM.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

>> DIRECTOR BARRETT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

GREAT TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. >> A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.

THANK YOU. WITH ME.

[10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]

THE BOY SCOUTS WOULD DO THIS. >> MAYOR SNYDER: WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. WE HAVE ITEM 10, ONE THROUGH 109 UP FOR 10 SURE. ANY THAT YOU WISH TO VOTE OTHERWISE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

>> YEAH. I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT -- 10.

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>> WE TEND TO PULL THE REMAINDER.

>> MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING.

>> A SECOND. >> MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEMS.

>> A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER. COUNCIL MEMBER RANDALLS.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL.

[10.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-175 authorizing the City Manager to execute Individual Project Order (IPO) #2 with WSB, in the amount of $162,000, for Owner's Representative services to support construction project management for City Capital Improvement Program (CIP) projects. (Kate Moriarty)]

7-0. ITEM 10-2 CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ON OUR -- 26175 AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT ORDER IPO NUMBER TWO WITH WSB IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,602,000 FOR OWNERS REPRESENTATION.

REPRESENTATIVE SERVICES TO SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGEMENT FOR CITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM CIP

PROJECTS. >> SO THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS UP IS I LIKE WHAT WOULD I'VE READ.

WHAT WSB IS DOING AND I THINK WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS A GOOD JOB AS FAR AS MANAGING THE PROJECTS, HAVING ME -- CONSISTENT MEETINGS, SUPPORTING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT'S ALL GREAT.

MY QUESTION IS, I ASSUME THAT WE ARE STILL ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR SOMEONE AND WHERE ARE WE AT IN THAT PROCESS?

>> SO HAVING CONFERRED WITH OUR -- KATE MORIANI EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE SERVICES. I HAVE NOT CONFIRMED WITH OUR HR DIRECTOR, BUT WE WERE ATTENDING AN OFFICE TO THE PROJECT MANAGER AND THEN ALSO A COP ENGINEER. SO PENDING THAT RESULTS AND ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE BACKGROUND CHECKS, ETC., THOSE SHOULD BE HOPEFULLY FILLED BY THE END OF THE MONTH.

AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME RELIEF ON THAT REGION, PROBABLY THE WHOLE AMOUNT OF THESE FUNDS AS THAT ON AS THE CIP ENGINEER ON BOARDS, THEY WOULD TAKE SOME OF THE PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE LINE TO START FISCAL YEAR 2027.

AND ALLOW EVENTUALLY THE OWNERS UP TO STEP BACK IN THAT CAPACITY

THAT THEY'RE SERVING. >> MAYOR SNYDER: IN BECAUSE WSB IS DOING SUCH A PHENOMENAL JOB FROM I MEAN, TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY AT THAT CALIBER WHO BIG SHOES TO FILL.

HOW DO YOU VET THOSE PEOPLE? >> ASSISTANT MORIARTY: SO WE WORK VERY CONSIDERATE IN THE CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE FOR CIP ENGINEER IN THE PROJECT MANAGER THE PROJECT MANAGER CANDIDATE WE WENT WITH IS NOT SOMEBODY THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE AN INVESTMENT IN TERMS OF TRAINING AND WHILE THAT ISN'T NECESSARILY A BAD THING, A LOT OF THAT TIME, IT'S NOT WHERE THE ORGANIZATION IS AT RIGHT NOW TO INVEST THOSE RESOURCES.

THE CANDIDATE THAT WE HAVE SELECTED HAS A LONG HISTORY IN DEVELOPMENT, WORKING FOR DEVELOPERS AND THEY ARE READY, HELP US BASICALLY HOLD CONTRACTORS ACCOUNTABLE AND THEY'RE READY TO HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, AS FOR CIP ENGINEER.

I BELIEVE I CAN SAY THIS THIS PERSON DID APPLY FOR A CITY ENGINEER AND WE'VE DISCUSSED KIND OF WHAT THIS OPPORTUNITY WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED.

AND THEY HAVE PRIOR CITY ENGINEERING EXPERIENCE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: OKAY. APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT THANK

YOU. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: I DO THINK THAT WSB PARTICULARLY THIS PARTICULAR EMPLOYEE OF WSB, WILL STAY ON OUR THIRD PARTY AVAILABILITY LIST, THAT SORT OF STUFF. SO JUST LIKE IN BUILDING INSPECTIONS, WHEN WE HAVE TOO MUCH WORK, WE ALL -- WE OUTSOURCE DATS I EXPECT THIS TO BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME TYPE OF OUTLET FOR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION FOR C.

I, AND PUBLIC-PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT BECOMES PUBLIC.

OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU. SO I MOVE TO APPROVE A 10.2 AS

PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: MOTION AND A SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[10.7. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-033 adopting the Second Amendment to the Stromberg Planned Unit Development (PUD) Zoning ordinance adopted by ordinance no. 0-2025-047, by allowing for residential, commercial and industrial uses by adding the First Amended development plan with the additional plan labeled as exhibit "B" with an expiration date of January 1, 2030, for the uses allowed by Exhibit "B". (Legal)]

[03:10:14]

CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-2026-033, ADOPTING THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE STRONG PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ZONING ORDINANCE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-2025-047 BY ALLOWING FOR RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES BY ADDING THE FIRST AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH THE ADDITIONAL PLAN LABELED AS EXHIBIT B WITH AN EXPIRATION DATE OF JANUARY 1ST, 2030, FOR THAT USES ALLOWED BY EXHIBIT B.

>> SO THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS ONE UP IS, AS I WAS READING THROUGH IT, LOOKING THROUGH IT, THERE WAS -- WERE STILL TO MY INTERPRETATION, WE'RE STILL SHOWING THREE SCENARIOS.

THE FISCAL ANALYSIS. BUT THE ORDINANCE WE'RE VOTING ON SEEMS TO BE ONLY DEALING WITH SCENARIOS ONE AND TWO.

>> BEING THAT 9010 AND TWO BEING THAT 50/50.

WHEN I WAS ORIGINALLY SPEAKING ABOUT THIS, I WAS LOOKING AT IT.

I SAID, IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN ANY ONE OF THE THREE, I'D GO 50, 50. AND THAT'S BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO KEEP A HAPPY MEDIUM. AS I WAS REFLECTING AND REVIEWING AND READING, I BEGAN TO SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE 100% INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THAT PUTS THE CITY IN A VERY STRONG FINANCIAL POSITION FOR TAX REVENUE GENERATING REVENUE. AND NOT PUTTING IT UNNECESSARY TAX BURDEN ON THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE.

ANYWAY, SO THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP IS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF WHOEVER CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO ME, WHY WE'RE SHOWING THREE SCENARIOS IN THE FISCAL ANALYSIS, BUT THE ORDINANCE VOTING ON ONLY SEEMS TO BE DEALING WITH SCENARIOS ONE

AND TWO. >> MAYOR SNYDER: SO COUNCILMEMBER -- SO COUNCIL MEMBER, FOR THE RECORD, UM, JAMES, CITY MANAGER. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THERE ATTACHMENT IN THE ACTUAL PUD AND GO TO SCENARIO TWO SCENARIO TWO IS AN HYBRID SCENARIO. THAT SAYS 50/50 AND ON THE 50 INDUSTRIAL IT SAYS, OR UP TO 100.

SO IT HAS THE UP TO 100 BEGIN TO OFFICIAL SCENARIO TWO BUT WE ARE CALLING IT SCENARIO THREE BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE SNEAKY OTHERWISE, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ALLOW 100% INDUSTRIAL, YOU WOULD HAVE TO STRIP THAT PART OUT, WHICH IS

BIG DENT TO SCENARIO TWO. >> COUNCILMEMBER KING: OKAY.

THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, THAT MAKES SENSE.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. >> CITY MANAGER EARP: YES, SIR.

>> COUNCILMEMBER KING: , SO I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA

ITEM 10.7 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: A MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER KING.

A SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.

[10.8. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-180 approving a negotiated settlement between ATMOS Cities Steering Committee and Atmos Energy Corp., Mid-Tex Division. (David Amsler)]

>> MAYOR SNYDER: FOR THE MOTION PASSES, 7-0.

WE HAVE ITEM 10.8 RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2027.180 APPROVING A NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT BETWEEN ATMOS CITIES STEERING COMMITTEE AND ATMOS ENERGY CORPORATION, MID TEXT DIVISION.

>> THE REASON I'M BRINGING THIS ONE UP IS BECAUSE AS A COUNCIL, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AS A COUNCIL WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT TRYING TO BURDEN OUR RESIDENTS WITH INCREASED TAXES OR RATES. AND WHEN THIS COMES UP IN THE FUTURE ABOUT OUR RATES GOING UP, I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT ATMOS IS THE ONES WHO ARE PUSHING FOR RATE INCREASE.

ATMOS INITIALLY REQUESTED ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

BUT AFTER THE CITY'S STEERING COMMITTEES AND THEIR CONSULTANTS

[03:15:04]

WENT THROUGH THE NUMBERS THEY CAME UP WITH $253.4 MILLION BETWEEN THE NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE COMMITTEE AND ATMOS.

THE SETTLEMENT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS $260.5 MILLION.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ROUGHLY LIKE -- IF I'M READING THIS RIGHT, 14% A LITTLE MORE THAN 14% INCREASE OR $13.37 A MONTH INCREASE. BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THIS UP SO THAT WE COULD LET HUTTO KNOW THAT WE ARE COGNIZANT ABOUT NOT RAISING RATES. THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO ENSURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.

BUT WE'VE NEGOTIATED WITH ATMOS. THEY'VE KIND OF TRIED TO WORK THEIR BEST WITH US TO DROP THAT BUT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

IT'S GOING TO COME UP. JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE IN THE OPEN. ANYWAY.

I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM 10.8 AS

PRESENTED. >> NOT TO SHARE WITH YOU -- THERE IS A DEAL ABOUT HEALTH CARE THAT FEEDS INTO THIS A LOT. IF YOU ARE ATMOS IF YOU WANT A CERTAIN RATE INCREASE THEN YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE PUSHING YOU DOWN. WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU ANSWER KNOWING IT'S GOING TO COME DOWN.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE LOOKED INTO THE HEALTH CARE IS THE SAME EXACT WAY NEGOTIATING RATES.

WE DON'T PAY $1000 THIS GROUP, $1500.

THERE'S THIS ONE AND THEN THERE'S ONE FOR ENCORE.

I THINK I TYPICALLY VOTE AGAINST THEM.

IT'S NOT THAT MUCH MONEY BUT ALL THE CITIES AROUND HERE ARE NOT PART OF THIS GROUP. I'VE WONDERED WHAT'S THE RATE INCREASE THAT THEY'RE GETTING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A PART OF THIS. AND SOMETIMES ARE WE HURTING OURSELVES BY DOING THIS KNOWING THERE'S GOING TO BE DRAG OUTS.

IT'S ALMOST KIND OF WHEN YOU'RE NEGOTIATING WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY, YOU ASK FOR EVERYTHING. YOU REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU WANT.

>> I CAN ANSWER THAT FROM EXPERIENCE.

IF YOU'RE IN AN AREA THAT HAS CERTAIN VOLATILITY THEY PUT IN A RATE CHANGE REQUEST. IF YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THE CITIES THAT USE YOUR ORIGINAL JURISDICTION AND NEGOTIATE YOU JUST GET THE RATE THAT THEY PUT IN.

SO EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS WILL BE PAYING WHAT THEIR ORIGINAL RATES WERE.

>> MAYOR SNYDER: I ASKED SOMEONE WHAT THAT WAS BECAUSE SINCE I'VE RETIRED -- THAT'S THE ONE TO VERIFY.

MOVING FROM INSURANCE TO COBRA. WE HAD A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT AND WE ARE LIKE LOOK, THE DEDUCTIBLE JUST SAY WE DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE.

GOING TO BE A 76% SAVINGS ON THAT BILL.

WHAT'S GOING TO BE $1200 WITH INSURANCE IS $300 WITHOUT INSURANCE. I HAVE A DEDUCTIBLE.

SO I'M LIKE WAIT A MINUTE. WHY DO I TELL PEOPLE I HAVE INSURANCE. I HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET MOST TIME ANYWAY. THAT'S WHY ALL THESE THINGS I HAVE TO WONDER. FOR ALL I. KNOW THEY WENT TO ROUND ROCK AND THEY ASKED AND ROUND ROCK IS PAYING MORE.

BECAUSE THEY KNOW WE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY THEY ASKED FOR HIGHER KNOWING WE ARE GOING TO FIGHT THEM POTENTIALLY.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AS BAD AS THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY.

>> I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY THEY USE SEPARATE RATE MAKING REQUESTS FOR AREAS THAT ARE IN A PARTICULAR.

>> THEY SURE AS HECK DON'T HAVE A FAVORITE NATION FOR THE GUY WHO GETS THE LOWEST RATE. ANYWAY.

IT'S LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE IN MY MIND.

EVERY TIME SOMEONE TELLS YOU I DID A GOOD JOB.

YOU DON'T KNOW UNLESS YOU TOOK ONE BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IT YET.

>> I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THERE WERE TIMES WHERE UTILITY SET A RATE AND AS A CITY WE USED OUR ORIGINAL JURISDICTION TO SUSPEND

[03:20:05]

THAT RATE AND GO THROUGH THE CONTESTED HEARING TYPE STUFF.

WE GOT A LOWER RATE. EVERYONE WHO'S NOT IN THE CONTESTED CASE GOT THE ORIGINAL RATES.

NOT THE BENEFIT OF A NEGOTIATION.

THEY HAD SPECIAL EVERYBODY THAT WAS IN THAT AND THEY COULD SEE THE MATH AND IT WAS LIKE THIS LITTLE POCKETS OF PLACES THAT HAD JOINED IN ON THE APPEAL IF YOU WANTED TO CALL IT THAT.

THOSE FOLKS GOT IN ON A LOWER RATE IN THOSE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES BUT EVERYBODY IS PAYING WHAT THEY ORIGINALLY ASKED FOR BECAUSE THEY ASKED ORIGINALLY.

>> DON'T KNOW IF YOU DON'T ASK. >> THAT'S THE THING BECAUSE EVEN AFTERWARD TO THE MAYOR'S POINT THEY ARE STILL INCREASING THEIR RATES BY 14%. CHANCES ARE THE ONES OUTSIDE OF THAT WERE PROBABLY 19-20% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OVERALL THEY ARE SITTING HAPPY. IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU USE THIS TO TRY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER KING IS SAYING. WATCH OUT FOR CITIZENS AND GET THE BEST RATES THAT WE CAN. BUT YEAH I DO THINK IT'S A BIT

OF A GAME. >> AT MISS WILL GO TO THE RAILROAD COMMISSION TO INCREASE THE RATES.

OUR GROUP NEGOTIATES TO GET THE RATE DOWN.

ROUND ROCK MIGHT JUST TAKE THE INCREASE.

>> I THINK THEY'RE PART OF A DIFFERENT GROUP.

>> PROBABLY. >> JUST LIKE THE PERSON SELLING CARS AT 0% INTEREST. THEY ARE BUT WE JUST PAID AN EXTRA $5000 ON A CAR. THERE'S NOTHING FREE.

I'M JUST SAYING I. KNOW WE KEEP GETTING SCREWED BUT TO YOUR POINT IT'S NOT US. IT'S ATMOS.

BUT WE DIDN'T RAISE A LOT THIS YEAR.

>> MAYOR SCHNEIDER.

[11.2. Discussion and possible action on updating the structure, rules and expectations of City Council sub-committees. (Councilmember Zepeda)]

ORDER FAILED. >> MAYOR SNYDER: DIES 11-2.

POSSIBLE DISCUSSION ON RULES AND EXPECTATIONS OF CITY COUNCIL

SUBCOMMITTEES. >> I ADDED THIS BECAUSE WE BROUGHT UP BEFORE IS IN OUR CITY COUNCIL PROTOCOLS THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF CLEAR GUARDRAILS EXPECTATIONS OUTLINED FOR COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES AND I'VE DRAFTED UP -- I'VE CREATED A DRAFT FOR SOME OF THE SUGGESTED PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES I'D LIKE TO ADD. I'M GOING TO BE POSTING IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD SO WE CAN HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION SO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN REVIEW AND EDIT AND MAKE YOU KNOW, HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE SUGGESTED ITEMS I'VE ADDED AND ALSO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE.

FOR NOW I HAVEN'T PROPOSED IT BECAUSE NO ONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THEM. AFTER MEETING WITH CITY MANAGER ERB THERE'S AT LEAST ONE EDIT I WANT TO MAKE TO ONE OF THE SUGGESTED ITEMS IN HOW WE RESTRUCTURE OR REFORM OUR CITY SUBCOMMITTEES. THAT'S ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE FOR THAT RIGHT NOW BUT IT'LL BE ON OUR A FUTURE AGENDA AFTER

WE'VE HAD TIME TO DISCUSS IT. >> MAYOR SNYDER: ALL RIGHT.

[11.3. Discussion and update on the requested cost forecast for running a city-owned fire department. (Councilmember Zepeda)]

THANK YOU. SUBTITLE 11.3 DISCUSSION AND UPDATE ON THE REQUESTED COST FORECAST FOR RUNNING A CITY

OWNED FIRE DEPARTMENT. >> YEAH, ITEM 11.3 IS JUST WE WANT TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE REQUEST THAT CAME A MONTH BEFORE LAST TO SEE. I KNOW WE DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A CONSULTANT THROUGH THE HEDC TO COME UP WITH THOSE COSTS. AS LONG AS WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH A FIRE STATION WE SHOULD GET AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE BEFORE WE HAVE ANY MORE PERMANENT PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RUNNING A CITY OWNED FIRE STATION WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST US OVER THE

LONG TERM. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCILOR, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD.

MY INTENTION IS TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE NEXT HED MEETING AND WORK WITH THE CONSULTANTS THAT THEY'VE WORKED.

TO BEGIN GETTING A PRELIMINARY COST ESTIMATE OF WHAT IT COST TO RUN ONE FIRE STATION, TWO FIRE STATIONS, AND THEN THE ENTIRE SERVICE AREA. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

ONCE THAT MEETING CONCLUDES ON SEPTEMBER 14TH FOR US TO THEN BRING BACK AN ITEM SEPTEMBER 17TH TO BEGIN HAVING THE DISCUSSION ON PRELIMINARY NUMBERS IN AN OPEN SETTING.

>> IT'S A MULTI-YEAR FORECAST CURRENT.

SO SEPTEMBER 14TH IS WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO MEET?

>> , SEPTEMBER 14TH IS THE HEDC MEETING AND THEN SEPTEMBER 17TH

WOULD BE THE COUNCIL MEETING. >> I BELIEVE THE FIRST

[03:25:07]

CONSULTANT WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND WE HAD TO MEET AGAIN WITH A DIFFERENT CONSULTANT. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MEMBERS BACK BY THE 14TH.

DO YOU REMEMBER IT THAT WAY? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.

[12. EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. >> MAYOR SNYDER: LET'S MOVE ON TO EXECUTIVE SESSIONS ITEMS 12.1.

RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071. TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING SALES TAX SHARING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AND PROPOSED INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR FIRE SERVICES WITH THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE.

B, ADAM OR GAIN RESTROOM PROJECT DEFECTS.

C, BLUE HUB TAX ABATEMENT AGREEMENTS AND PROCESS.

D, LOCAL OPTION LIQUOR ELECTIONS.

E LEGISLATIVE ISSUES FOR THE TEXAS 90TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION AFFECTING THE CITY OF HUTTO. 12.2.

CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO THE SENATE BILL 2038 PETITIONS, SEEKING RELEASE FROM THE CITY OF HUDDLE'S EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION BY 1AAA STORAGE GADDIS SCHOOL LLC FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4400 PRIUM LANE, PFLUGERVILLE, TEXAS, AND BY TWO KEN FISHER PARTNER OF FREY LLC FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 204 BONELLI DRIVE HUTTO, TEXAS, 78634. AND ITEM 12.3 RECEIVED LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.072 REAL PROPERTY 551.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS RELATED TO PENDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OR THE CITY OF HUTTO, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PROJECT, PROJECT CRAWFORD, PROJECT ORCHARD, PROJECT CALLED, AND PROJECT

[13. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]

>> OKAY, IT'S 12:08 WE ARE BACK FROM THE EXECUTIVE SESSION AND NO ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN. WE HAVE ACTION RELATIVE TO

[14. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]

EXECUTIVE SESSION CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ABOVE.

14.2, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. >> I WANT TO BRING BACK THE AGENDA ITEM WE ARE GOING TO -- I'M GOING TO BE PUTTING THE DASH I'M TIRED. PUTTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOWARD REFORM OUR CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES TO BE CONSIDERED IN THE NEXT MEETING. SO BETWEEN NOW AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TIME TO REVIEW AND LOOK AT THEM ON THE MESSAGE BOARDS AND ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE CONSIDERATION AND TAKE A VOTE ONTO THE NEXT ONE.

NEXT MEETING. >> MAYOR SNYDER: ANY OTHERS?

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.

1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER

5.1. Library Card Sign-Up Month (Kristin Phillips)

6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS

7. PUBLIC COMMENT

8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.

8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, Fire Safety, CIP). (Part 1 of 2)

11.1. Discussion and possible action regarding the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging Commission. (Mayor Snyder)

8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, Fire Safety, CIP). (Part 2 of 2)

9.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-172 approving the Municipal Services Agreement by and between the City of Hutto and Limmer CO 132 Real Estate, LLC related to the development known as Hutto Limmer Retail. (Howard Koontz)

9.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-173 ratifying the property tax increase reflected in the City of Hutto Fiscal Year 2026-2027 operating budget. (Alberta Barrett)

9.5. Conduct a public hearing and related items in consideration and possible action to approve Ordinance No. O-2026-045 of the City of Hutto, Texas, levying Ad Valorem Taxes for the use and support of the municipal government for the City of Hutto for the Fiscal Year 2026-2027. (Alberta Barrett)

10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS

10.8. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-180 approving a negotiated settlement between ATMOS Cities Steering Committee and Atmos Energy Corp., Mid-Tex Division. (David Amsler)

11.2. Discussion and possible action on updating the structure, rules and expectations of City Council sub-committees. (Councilmember Zepeda)

11.3. Discussion and update on the requested cost forecast for running a city-owned fire department. (Councilmember Zepeda)

12. EXECUTIVE SESSION

13. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION

14. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS

Sep 03, 2026 City Council

1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER

5.1. Library Card Sign-Up Month (Kristin Phillips)

6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS

7. PUBLIC COMMENT

8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.

8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, Fire Safety, CIP). (Part 1 of 2)

11.1. Discussion and possible action regarding the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging Commission. (Mayor Snyder)

8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, Fire Safety, CIP). (Part 2 of 2)

9.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-172 approving the Municipal Services Agreement by and between the City of Hutto and Limmer CO 132 Real Estate, LLC related to the development known as Hutto Limmer Retail. (Howard Koontz)

9.4. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-173 ratifying the property tax increase reflected in the City of Hutto Fiscal Year 2026-2027 operating budget. (Alberta Barrett)

9.5. Conduct a public hearing and related items in consideration and possible action to approve Ordinance No. O-2026-045 of the City of Hutto, Texas, levying Ad Valorem Taxes for the use and support of the municipal government for the City of Hutto for the Fiscal Year 2026-2027. (Alberta Barrett)

10. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS

10.8. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-180 approving a negotiated settlement between ATMOS Cities Steering Committee and Atmos Energy Corp., Mid-Tex Division. (David Amsler)

11.2. Discussion and possible action on updating the structure, rules and expectations of City Council sub-committees. (Councilmember Zepeda)

11.3. Discussion and update on the requested cost forecast for running a city-owned fire department. (Councilmember Zepeda)

12. EXECUTIVE SESSION

13. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION

14. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS

Sep 03, 2026 City Council

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