* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [Diversity and Inclusion Meeting on September 15, 2026.] [00:00:04] ALL RIGHT. IT IS, UH, 6 0 2, CALLING THE SESSION TO ORDER. ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER . PRESENT. COMMISSIONER FURY. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSON PRESENT. COMMISSIONER WILL, WILL BE PRESENT. UH, COMMISSIONER HOLLINGSWORTH. UH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT? WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS PRESENT AND STAFF PRESENT. ABBY FENTON. ALL RIGHT. UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? WHAT, SO LET'S MOVE ON. GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY STAFF. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY. I'M SURE SOMETHING WILL COME UP, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY. UM, GENERAL COMMENTS? GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES? JIM, YOU GOT ANYTHING FOR ME? PROVIDE RESOURCES. YOU BRING THE BELL, BING, OR YOU CAN START TALKING. ALRIGHT. GENERAL COMMENTS FROM PERMISSION MEMBERS. 6.1 REVIEW AND UPDATE ON BUDGET PROGRESS TRACKER AS IT RELATES TO STRATEGIC IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. UH, THERE HAS BEEN NO UPDATES. I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN, OH, THERE HAS BEEN THE INVOICING OF THE SENIOR CITIZENS, UH, GROUP. RIGHT. UH, I, I HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE FORMS FROM TWO OF THEM AND, BUT LINDA'S REIMBURSEMENT IS IN PROCESS. OKAY. SO YOU NEED VETS AND THEN, YES. SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO UPDATE THAT PART, BUT, UH, YEAH, I'LL DO THAT. MAKE SURE TO DO THAT. UM, ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW, SEPTEMBER IS WHEN, DO YOU KNOW WHEN STAN'S GOING TO INVOICE HIS PART FOR THE TRAINING? I DON'T, BUT KRISTEN MAY KNOW. I CAN FIND OUT. YEAH, BECAUSE HE NEEDS TO DO IT IN THE NEXT RIGHT. WEEK OR SO. RIGHT, RIGHT. OKAY. SO THEN THAT WILL KIND OF WRAP UP THE ENTIRE, UM, BUDGET. ENTIRE NICE LITTLE ON THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING SO I CAN PRESENT THAT. SOUNDS GOOD. ANY COMMENTS? YES. SO I DID REACH OUT TO, UM, AMERICAN LEISURE. I THINK WHAT I'M RUNNING INTO IS, UM, 'CAUSE I DID TRY TO HAVE A MEETING FROM THREE TO FIVE, BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL WORKING, SO THAT'S WHY THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP. SO I'M RUNNING INTO TRYING TO FIND A SPACE AFTER LIKE AROUND SIX O'CLOCK. I DID ASK, UM, THE, UM, FOR, SHE'S IN MY PHONE, BUT AT THE AMERICAN LEGION IF WE COULD USE THAT SPACE. AND SHE SAID THAT SHE WILL CHECK AND LET ME KNOW IT WAS LAST WEEK. BUT I THINK WHAT I'LL, WHAT MY NEXT STEP WOULD HAVE TO DO IS TO TRY TO SEE IF A COUPLE OF THE AREA, UM, RESTAURANTS WILL ALLOW IF THE BACKSPACE. MM-HMM. AND IF THAT MEANS THAT I, UM, YOU TO BUY, YOU KNOW, QUESO AND DIP AND REFRESHMENTS FOR EVERYBODY, THEN THAT'S FINE. I JUST WANNA LIKE, YOU KNOW, GET IT UP AND RUNNING. AND ALSO TOO, I HAVE BEEN ENGAGING ON, ON FACEBOOK ONLINE WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE. UM, THERE WAS A COMMENT, THERE WAS A COMMENT, UM, THAT I WAS, UM, WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE VETERANS WORKING GROUP AS A RESOURCE, SOMEBODY HAD COMMENTED THAT, UM, I WAS JUST TRYING TO PATCH MY RESUME AND, UM, I USED IT FOR SOME NEFARIOUS OTHER REASON. SO BASICALLY I CHOSE TO SPEAK PROFESSIONALLY, OF COURSE. AND I JUST TOLD THEM THAT I'M . ARE YOU EBONY? HI, I'M EBO. HELLO, EBONY. HEY, HOW ARE YOU? HI, NICE TO MEET YOU. TO, UM, AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS MY GENERAL COMMENT. THIS IS OUR NEW COMMISSIONER, EBONY. UM, WELCOME, WELCOME. I TOTALLY DROPPED THE BALL AND DID NOT COORDINATE OUR CITY SECRETARY TO SWEAR YOU IN TODAY. SO NO, YOU CAN STAY. PLEASE STAY. NO . UM, PLEASE STAY. AND YOU'RE WELCOME TO, UM, ENGAGE IN THE DISCUSSION. I JUST CAN'T HAVE YOU TECHNICALLY VOTE STAND, BUT I WILL WE GET YOU SWORN IN AT THE NEXT MEETING. NO ONE CAN TECHNICALLY VOTE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. DO THREE IN PERSON. I THOUGHT IT WAS FIVE. I MEAN, SEVEN IN THE GROUP. WE HAVE SEVEN POSITIONS. WHERE A QUORUM? WE, NO, WE HAVE THREE. AND THE ORDINANCE. OH, LEFT. THE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN CHANGED. OKAY. I DID THAT. I JUST WATCHED THE TRAINING AND HOWEVER MANY SEATS IT IS. I THINK IT'S . OH. [00:05:01] BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY THREE, FOUR. SO THIS IN THE, UM, THE EIBI THINK SO. ME AND CHRISTIE LOOKED AT IT. I'LL LOOK AT THIS UP, Y'ALL. THIS IS FROM 2020 THOUGH. LET'S CONTINUE. OKAY. . SORRY. SO, UM, I BASICALLY WAS, YOU KNOW, LETTING 'EM KNOW THAT WE'RE A BRIDGE TO THE COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, UH, OFTENTIMES PEOPLE, EVEN YOUNGER VETERANS DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING TO PLACES LIKE THE AMERICAN LEGION OR TO VFW. AND WE'RE JUST ANOTHER RESOURCE THAT AFTER THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE, THAT'S A STEP IN STONE. WE ARE, WE'RE HERE FOR ALL OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. AND THEN, UM, WITH THE MAYOR, UM, ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE, UM, THE NAME CHANGE, UM, FOR THE GROUP. UM, THAT WAS ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT, UH, THAT I HAD. AND, UM, SOME PEOPLE, UM, AND I, I GET IT, ARE UPSET ABOUT THE NAME CHANGE, BUT I'LL LET THEM KNOW THAT OUR FOCUS HAS NOT CHANGED AND OUR VISION FOR, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS NOT CHANGED ONLY THE NAME AND IT EMBODIES THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY. SO, UM, THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS, UH, HAVING ON, UH, THE FACEBOOK GROUP ON, UM, THE VETERANS WORKING GROUP AND, UH, UH, ON ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, UH, FACEBOOK GROUPS AND ALSO ON THE MAYORS PLATFORM AS WELL. AWESOME. WELL, FIRST OF ALL, NIKKI, UH, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THE VETERANS WORKING GROUP. AND, UH, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND, UH, GRATITUDE FOR THAT. AND, UH, IF YOU NEED ANY HELP, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FRESHMEN, I'M NOT SURE WHEN YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO, UH, BE DOING THAT. I DON'T, I DON'T HEAR A DATE IN THERE, BUT, UH, WE HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS LEFT IN THE BUDGET AND WE COULD HELP AS LONG AS IT ALL GOES IN BEFORE OCTOBER ONE. OCTOBER ONE, SO SEPTEMBER 30TH. OKAY. I'LL TRY , I'LL TRY. IF NOT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IF NOT, JUST LET ME KNOW. I'D BE HAPPY, HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE. ABSOLUTELY NO ISSUES. THANK YOU. UM, SO THAT'S GREAT. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE NOISE. THERE'S ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE WITH ALL SORTS OF OPINIONS, SO APPRECIATE YOU, YOU KNOW, TAKING IT IN, IN STRIDE AND, UH, RESPONDING ACCORDINGLY. SO THAT'S GREAT. AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING WITH ENGAGING THE, THE FOLKS. MM-HMM . UH, YEAH, ABOUT THE NAME CHANGE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME POINT TODAY. SO, UH, I THINK ANYTHING ELSE COMMERS YOUR GENERAL COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER MEMBERS. SO IF NOT, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS ITEM NUMBER 7.1, DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 18TH, 2026. I HAVE NO COMMENTS. ANYBODY, ANYTHING Y WANNA MENTION? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED, ACTUALLY I DID NOT INCLUDE THIS IN MY EMAIL, BUT I HAVE ADDED THE FEEDBACK FORM TO THE DIB PAGE. OKAY. UM, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT, UM, IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE'S A LINK AND IT'S BASICALLY A LINK TO A, UM, A GOOGLE FORM WITH A PARAGRAPH THAT THEY CAN PUT ANYTHING THEY WANT AND IT, IT SHOULD COME THROUGH ANONYMOUSLY. UM, AND SO YEAH, I'LL HAVE Y'ALL TRY THAT OUT AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, GET THE WORD OUT THAT IT'S THERE. HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY YET? NO, I JUST PUT IT ON YESTERDAY. DOING FANTASTIC. UH, WHERE DO I SIGN ON THIS? JUST ANYWHERE ON THE HONOR YOUR PERSONAL . THANK YOU. OKAY. IF IT WORKS, UM, YES. I GUESS LET'S GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE AND THEN IF I HAVE, IF I NEED TO INVALIDATE IT LATER, I CAN OH, RIGHT. YEAH. TO MOVE POINT. YES. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAVE FOUR HERE. YEAH. BUT, BUT THE QUORUM IS THREE ON ORDINANCE. AND I MIGHT, I'M SORRY. I, I MISSPOKE. I THINK THAT WHETHER YOU HAVE OR NOT, I THINK YOU ALWAYS TAKE A VOTE AND IF IT SOMETIMES TURNS OUT YEAH. ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE, THEY WANT Y'ALL JUST COME BACK THE NEXT MEETING AND [00:10:01] REDO THE OH YEAH. SO I, I'LL BE QUIET FOR, IT'S ALL GOOD. JIM, YOU APPRECIATE YOUR VOICE IN HERE. ALRIGHT. SO YOU'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MEETING. MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT IT. ACCEPT THE MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 18TH, 2020 SIXTH, SECOND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, NUMBER 7.2, DISCUSSION ON CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION. HOLD ON. I'M SO SORRY. YEAH, LET ME DO THE CALL VOTE. OH, SORRY. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY. FOR MOTION PASSES FOR, OH, SORRY. ALL RIGHT. UH, ITEM 7.2, DISCUSSION ON CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MEETING DECISIONS. ALL RIGHT. I CAN, I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT EXPOUNDING ON SITUATIONS, BUT I'LL SAY I THINK IT WENT WELL. UH, I THINK THE PRESENTATION WENT WELL. I APPRECIATE MUSA FOR CHIPPING IN AND BEING A VERY STRONG VOICE IN OUR BOX, IN OUR RING. UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE, THE, THE COMMISSION IS GOING TO PROCEED AS FAR AS WHEN I STILL SEE DEIB WRITTEN ON TOP HERE. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, THAT'S GONNA REQUIRE ANY SORT OF, UH, DECISION FROM THE COMMISSION ITSELF. BUT, UH, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT WENT WELL. UH, I GUESS SOME PEOPLE, EVERYONE MAY HAVE SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT IT. UM, PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THE DEIV NAME CHANGE WAS THAT, UH, IMPORTANT TO HAVE HAPPENED, UH, GIVEN THE HISTORY THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS GONE THROUGH MULTIPLE NAME CHANGES IN ITSELF. SO TO ME, IT JUST FEELS LIKE ANOTHER NAME CHANGE THAT OKAY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UM, IT, IT FEELS A LITTLE SUPERFICIAL, BUT THAT BEING SAID, UH, AS LONG AS WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT, THE NATURE OF THE WORK IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE AND THE GOOD WORK THAT WE DO HERE IN THE COMMISSION CONTINUES, I THINK THAT'S THE CORE THING THAT NEEDS TO BE PRESERVED. AND AS LONG AS THAT'S PRESERVED, I'M RELATIVELY OKAY, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE NEED CHANGE. BUT WHAT WAS THE NAME CHANGE DEAL? I'M SORRY. UH, COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMISSION. OH, I'M GET MORE, I HAVE, I HAVE A COMMENT, MAN. COULD EXPLAIN TO FINISH IT WAS, IT WAS BASED ON, I GUESS, HOLD ON SECOND PLEASE. I'M SORRY. DID YOU HAVE, OKAY. IT MAY SEEM SUPERFICIAL AND IN MANY WAYS WE CAN SAY YES, IT'S SUPERFICIAL. WHEN FOLKS SEE DEI OR DEI BEING IN OUR CASE, THEY FEEL WELCOME AND ACCEPTED. SO I BELIEVE, OR SHOULD I SAY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHATEVER OUR NEW NAME, AGENDA, UM, IDEALS BE, IT SHOULD, IT SHOULD MAKE, WE, WE, WE SHOULD BE SURE TO, TO, TO, TO PRESENT THAT IN A WAY AND DO OUR WORK IN A WAY AND, AND PRESENT IT TO THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY TO WHERE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT IT'S NOT JUST A NAME CHANGE, THAT WE'RE STILL DOING THE SAME WORK. BECAUSE, I MEAN, COMMUNITY SERVICES SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE OUT RAKING LEAVES AND MOWING LAWNS. RIGHT? OKAY. AND SO IT'S LIKE, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SHOUT INCLUSIVITY. AND, YOU KNOW, I JOINED THE COMMISSION BECAUSE I WANT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING TO HELP PEOPLE FEEL INCLUDED, BECAUSE BROWN PEOPLE AREN'T REALLY REPRESENTED IN MOST PLACES. AND, AND DEI IS LIKE, IT, IT SCREAMS, THIS IS A SAFE SPACE FOR YOU TO BE YOU. SO WHATEVER HAPPENS, IN ANY CASE, IT GOTTA SHOUT. YOU ARE, IT'S OKAY TO BE HERE. AND THAT IT WORKED FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST COMMUNITY SERVICES. YOU CALL AND YOU NEED HELP. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SERVING EVERYONE. DEI IS ABOUT ACCESS. MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE ACCESS THAT THEY NEED FOR THEM. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS. YEAH. AND JUST TO, WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY, WHEN I SAY IT'S, UH, IT'S SUPERFICIAL AND THAT, UH, MY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE CHANGED. THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY, BY WHEN I SAY IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SUPERFICIAL THAT FROM POINT OF VIEW OF CO THE COUNCIL, I THINK THAT THEY'RE JUST TRYING [00:15:01] TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE COVER OF A, UH, BOX AND LIKE PRESENT IT, UH, AS THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN MAKING MYSELF CLEAR, BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I MEANT ANYWAYS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. SO, JUST IN, AGAIN, I'M JUST KIND OF TYING IN. SO AS FAR AS THE NAME CHANGE OR THE PROCESS FOR THE NAME CHANGE OR AGREEMENT ON THE NAME CHANGE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO EFFECTIVELY, LIKE, IS THAT SET IN STONE? IS THERE ANY OTHER IT WAS VOTED ON. IT WAS VOTED ON. IT WAS VOTED ON AT THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING. AND SO LET, LET ME JUST TOUCH REAL QUICK ON IT, BECAUSE WE WERE THERE. IT'S LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING OR THE WORK SECTION? THE CITY, THE CITY, THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING. OH, OKAY. SO, YOU KNOW, APPARENTLY THE NAME DEIB TRIGGERS SOME PEOPLE. SO WE ARE BENDING TO THEIR WILL AND CHANGING THE NAME TO A MORE KINDER, FRIENDLIER NAME FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHILE COMPLETELY DISREGARDING WHAT IT DID FOR THE OTHER PEOPLE. SO THERE IS NO MORE DEI. SO, SO THEN AS FAR AS THE, THE COMMISSION'S CHARTER, IT'S AN ORDINANCE. IT'S GOTTA BE CHANGED OR CANCELED. SO WHAT CAME OUT OF THE, WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THE COUNCIL VOTED ON WHATEVER YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME. AND WITH THAT, THE ORDINANCE AND FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE. SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE, I, UH, JIM, CAN YOU, UH, TELL ME IF THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS BEEN FORMED OR IT IS IN THE PROCESS OF FORMING? WE HAVE THREE APPOINTED MEMBERS. OKAY. , DAN GORDON. OKAY. WE HAVE NOT MET YET. RIGHT. SO THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAS BEEN FORMED, AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE COMMITTEE WILL NOW INTERACT, I BELIEVE, WITH THE NEW COMMISSION. AND PART OF THAT CHANGE IS GONNA BE LOOKING AT HOW TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, AS I UNDERSTAND. AND POTENTIALLY THE PURPOSE AND POTENTIALLY THE PURPOSE. OKAY. SO I, THIS PROBABLY ISN'T A PLACE TO WORK THEN, BUT I MEAN, IF, IF, IF THAT DECISION HAS BEEN MADE, UM, MAY I RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY? UH, I DISAGREE WITH YOUR ANSWER, AND THAT'S FINE. THAT, LET ME FINISH. UH, I DISAGREE IN THAT NOTHING'S IN STONE. THAT'S WHY WE FORMED THE, THE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE. 'CAUSE MY PURPOSE, AND I'M ACTUALLY, I RE RE-LISTENED TO 11.1 AND WHAT THE, 'CAUSE THE MAYOR CAME OUT AND SAID, AND, AND TAPPED THE BRACE ON ME AT ANY TIME. 'CAUSE THIS IS Y'ALL'S MEETING AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OVER BY ANY MEANS. I JUST WENT OFF OUR RESOURCES. UH, HE SAID THAT HE WAS ALL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CHANGING COMPLETELY. AND HE SAYS OUTTA THE WORKSHOP, AND YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING AT THE WORKSHOP. HE SAID HE, HE CHANGED HIS, MODIFIED HIS OPINION. HE CAME UP WITH A NAME. UH, I KIND OF SAY THE COMMUNITY SERVICE. YEAH. WE'RE NOT BREAKING RES. I JUST MADE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME, UH, UH, TRUTH TO THAT. SO I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. SO I DON'T THINK THE NAME, I MEAN, I'M ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE. I DON'T, I'M SAYING IT'S NOT BEEN NAMED STONE, JUST 'CAUSE WE PASSED SOMETHING, THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT ALL ANY TIME. IT'S A, IT'S AN ORDINANCE. WE CAN CHANGE THE NAME ANYWAY. UM, BUT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, I, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST RE-LISTENING TO THAT DISCUSSION BETWEEN I THINK MYSELF AND, AND MAYOR AND, UM, MAYBE CORINA. BUT I THINK LISTENING TO WHAT WE ALL HAD TO SAY, I GIVE THIS MORE UNDERSTANDING ON WHAT I BELIEVE, WHAT I UNDERSTAND TO BE THE GOALS OF THIS. AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE GOALS, THE OUTCOME, AND NOT THE PURPOSE, BUT I THINK THEY'RE A LITTLE NEBULOUS RIGHT NOW. WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE CITY, THE DEIB COMMISSION. I WILL CONTINUE TO USE THAT NAME. UNTIL ME, THE SUBCOMMITTEE RESULTS ARE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I HAVE TALKED TO RESOURCES AND CONSULTANTS, AND THEY'RE ALL FINE WITH ANY NAME CHANGE, AS LONG AS THE HEART, MY WORDS, WE ALL BELONG. AND WE GO BACK TO, YOU BELONG IN HUDDLE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS LONG AS WE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT SAME COMMITMENT OF, UH, OF INCLUSION AND, AND BELONG, WELL, BELONGING AND INCLUDING ALL THE DIVERSE, IT'S JUST NOT A SKIN COLOR. IT'S, IT COULD BE SHORT PEOPLE OR TALL PEOPLE, , I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN, THERE IS A, AND I, I'M SORRY I'M MAKING LIGHT OF THIS AND I SHOULDN'T, BUT TO ME, IT'S, IT IS, UH, IS WHAT IS THE DIVERSITY IN THIS COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE DEIB OR WHATEVER NAME WE CALL THAT IS SUCH A, A EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PURPOSE IS TO, IS TO SEEK OUT THOSE NEEDS. 'CAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T KNOW, COUNCIL DOESN'T KNOW. YOU GUYS KNOW, UM, Y'ALL ARE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK AS Y'ALL, UH, UH, [00:20:01] EXPAND IN MORE THINGS TO SEE, WELL, THERE IS THIS NEED HERE, BUT THEN THIS THING IS, IS THAT MAYBE THERE'S, MAYBE THERE'S 2% OF, UH, UH, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY, THEY REPRESENT 2% OF THE COMMUNITY. LET'S SAY WE HAVE 20, WELL, THAT'S 40% OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT Y'ALL CAN'T TACKLE 20 WORK GROUPS, WHATEVER AT ONE TIME. BUT COMING BACK TO THE CITY AND THEN, UH, UH, WONDERING OUT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE RESOURCES BEST TO USE THAT WE PROVIDE TO THIS GROUP, UH, UH, ANY DIRECTION, AN ALIGNMENT WITH, UH, UH, MAYBE OTHER NONPROFIT GROUPS OR WHATEVER, UH, TO WORK TOGETHER OR A COMMON SOLUTION. AND ALSO KEEPING YOUR THUMB ON THE PULSE IS THAT MAYBE THIS 2% GROUP NOW IS AN EIGHT TO 10% GROUP, YOU KNOW, REALLY OVER OVERNIGHT, ONE OR TWO YEARS. SO THAT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US. AND YES, WE HAVE OUR CITY STUDIES THAT LOOK AT THAT, BUT I THINK IN Y'ALL'S ACTIVITIES AND IN THE COMMUNITY, Y'ALL HAVE A BETTER, YOU KNOW, PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT'S GOING ON THAN THE, THE AVERAGE ROAD. 'CAUSE THAT'S YOUR CHARTER. SO I, I LOVE THAT CHARTER. I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT AT ALL. SO, I'M SORRY, I'M RAMBLING HERE. UH, 'CAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT. IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME. I HAVE A LOT OF PASSION FOR THIS. WHO GETS TO DECIDE IF THAT CHANGES? THE CHARTER CITY COUNCIL IS THE ULTIMATE SIDER OF THE CHARTER. OKAY. NOW A CHARTER AMENDMENT. NOW THIS IS NOT A CHARTER, THIS IS AN, AN ORDINANCE. BUT YOUR QUESTION WAS CHARTER, A CHARTER'S VOTER BOND BY THE CITIZENS. BUT THE COUNCIL DECIDES WHAT IS ON A CHARTER VOTE. AND WE HAVE A CHARTER COMMISSION. WE CAN'T DO IT MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR, BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT BY STATE LAW EVERY FOUR YEARS. SO WE'RE DOING IT ABOUT EVERY 18 TO 24 MONTHS, TRY TO KEEP ABREAST OF THINGS. UM, BUT THE ORG HAS CHANGE CAN BE DONE AT ANY TIME. SO, SO THEN WHAT I'LL, WHAT I'LL SAY IS, I, I THINK THAT AS A COMMISSION, I FEEL LIKE THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE DO PROBABLY NEED TO TALK MORE ABOUT. UM, AND, AND WITHOUT ME HERE, I DON'T NO, NO. I, I DON'T, I DON'T MIND ME NOT BEING NO, NO, NO. I'M, I'M FINE WITH ANYONE BEING HERE WHO WANTS TO SAY, I, I THINK WHAT MY CON MY CONCERN, AND MAYBE THIS IS KIND OF WHERE, UH, COMMISSIONER FURY'S COMING FROM, WHICH IS IF THE DECISION, YOU KNOW, NAMES ARE IMPORTANT, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE ALL HAVE THE NAMES THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT? NAMES ARE PICKED, THEY'RE CHOSEN, THEY'RE DELIBERATE. BUT DON'T THINK THERE'S JUST, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ARBITRARY, I DON'T THINK IT'S ARBITRARY. SO WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THE DECISION TO CHANGE THE NAME OF A COMMISSION WITHOUT CONSULTING THE COMMISSION TO ME, SAYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THE VOICE OF THAT COMMISSION ACTUALLY FEELS TO YEAH. THE DECISION MAKERS. BECAUSE I THINK THAT HAD THAT CONVERSATION COME UP MAY MAYBE THERE, MAYBE THERE IS MORE. UH, I AGREE THAT, UH, A MORE COMPREHENSIVE WAY TO STATE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, RIGHT? BECAUSE AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THOSE FOUR LETTERS TRIGGER SOME PEOPLE. BUT I THINK THE POINT OF THIS COMMISSION IS NOT NECESSARILY TO MAKE EVERYONE FEEL COMFORTABLE ACKNOWLEDGING HARD TRUTH ABOUT THE COMMUNITY. I THINK THE POINT OF THE COMMISSION IS TO BRING STUFF TO LIFE AND GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIND COMMON GROUND. SO IF I, IF I WERE LIVING IN THIS CITY AND I SAW COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMISSION, I'M NOT LOOKING TWICE AT IT THE WAY THAT MAYBE IF MY PASSION IS IN DEIB, NOT REAL KEEN ON THE NAME IS NO, NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING STILL THE NAME IS, THE NAME WAS PICKED. SO I FEEL LIKE IF, IF THERE WAS A PURPOSE FOR CHANGING THE NAME AND ENOUGH THOUGHT, ENOUGH THOUGHT WENT INTO CHANGING THE NAME, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT, JUST LIKE YOU'RE HERE TODAY, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT AT LEAST THAT CONVERSATION WOULD'VE COME UP. LIKE, HEY, WE'RE CONSIDERING CHANGING THE NAME. WE WANT YOUR INPUT ON WHAT THAT NAME COULD LOOK LIKE BEFORE IT'S JUST RUBBER STAMP. BECAUSE RIGHT. EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE MIGHT HAVE A, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE CHARTER. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE PURPOSE THAT COULD COME UP IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING VOTED ON. AND THEN WE HAVE NO RECOURSE TO EVEN, YOU KNOW, HAVE INPUT ON IT. SO I DO THINK THAT AS A COMMISSION, WE SHOULD FURTHER THIS CONVERSATION HERE AND SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE. BECAUSE IF THAT NAME'S NOT SET IN STONE, I THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT THAT THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE CHANGED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. I WILL BRING UP A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY IS THAT THIS NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED. WELL, ATTEMPTED FIVE TIMES. I KNOW. AND THEN JACQUELINE'S THE ONE THAT WANTED REMOVED DIV COMPLETE. YEAH. REMOVED COMPLETELY. AND, AND BE, WE ALL BELONG. IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? I'M, NO, I DON'T KNOW WHO JACQUELINE IS. SO SHE, OKAY, SO SHE'S NOT EVEN HERE ANYMORE. NO. WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HER THEN. WELL, 'CAUSE I AM. OKAY. WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO ASK. UM, SO WHAT HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO THE COMMITTEE? NO, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DID. NO, YOU'RE STARING AT ME. SO I'M GIVING YOU MY ATTENTION. I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. WHAT I, WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS, CAN, [00:25:02] CAN WE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? AND ASK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BY SURVEY, WHAT DO THEY THINK? BECAUSE WE'RE REPRESENTING THEM. SO I THINK I, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY THE QUESTION WAS PUT, AND I, I DID DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THE FOCUS AND THE VISION IS NOT GONNA CHANGE. BUT I THINK THAT IF WE LET THEM ALSO HAVE A VOICE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE REPRESENT AND HAVE A SURVEY, I THINK THAT WE WOULD FIND THAT THERE'S PROBABLY FEWER PEOPLE THAT ARE TRIGGERED AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ARE WELCOME TO IT, BECAUSE THEY DO FEEL LIKE IT, IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF EVERYBODY. SO EVEN IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN SWAY THOSE WHO ARE TRIGGERED TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT EVERYBODY, THEN MAYBE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO BE COMFORTABLE. THAT'S JUST, WELL, I THINK IT'S A MISNOMER TO SAY THAT THIS IS ABOUT PEOPLE BEING TRIGGERED. THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE AT ALL. PEOPLE MAY HAVE OPINIONS OF THAT. AND, AND, AND, AND MAYBE A COUNCIL MEMBER SAID SOMETHING. BUT I, I AGREE WITH YOU. THE POPULATION THAT ARE TRIGGERED IS, IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT IN, IN IMPORTANCE. IT'S INS IN NUMBERS. I, I AGREE WITH THAT. AND I'M AN OLDER WHITE GUY, APOLOGIZE, USING MY RIGHT AND MY AGE. AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T UNDER, I DON'T SEE THAT AT ALL. UH, I, I DO BELIEVE GOING BACK TO THAT, THE NAME IS, IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT'S BEING DONE. THAT'S, I THINK WHAT COUNSEL HAS LOOKED AT LOOKING AT THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN, THE DE DEID STRATEGIC PLAN OR ORDINANCE. THERE'S NO WORDS IN THE CHARTER ABOUT DEID, JUST ETHICS AND PLANNING AND ZONING. AND SO, AND THEN WE LOOK AT OUR WEBSITE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE, GOALS, VISION, MISSION, STUFF LIKE THAT. ALL GREAT STATEMENTS. I'M NOT TRYING TO CRITICIZE ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS. THEY'RE NOT IN ALIGNMENT. SO THE, THE, WHAT TRADITIONALLY IS LOOKED AT AS A-D-E-I-B OR DEI, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT DEI, THIS IS NOT AN HR ISSUE. THESE ARE, THESE ARE, THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH HEARTS AND CHILDREN'S AND SALARIES AND, AND, AND HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, GOOSEBUMPS STUFF. TO ME, THIS IS NOTHING ABOUT, AND, AND, AND IT, AND I, I REALLY DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, BROWN PEOPLE DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE. AND NOW BROWN PEOPLE DO KILL, COMFORTABLE. WE HAVE A THOUSAND MORE, A MILLION MORE DIMENSIONS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAN IF SOMEONE'S BROWN OR NOT. UH, I KNOW THAT'S EASY FOR ME TO SAY. AGAIN, I'LL USE THAT IN MY OLD WHITE GUY THING. BUT I GREW UP IN CENTRAL TEXAS AND, AND I WAS ABOUT THE MOST LIBERAL PERSON YOU'LL EVER MEET IN MY AGE GROUP. AND, UH, STRONG SOCIAL SUPPORT. UM, I, I GREW UP WITH TONS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL SORTS OF CULTURES AND, AND ON MY ENTIRE LIFE. UM, SO I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE AND VERY STRONG, VERY PASSIONATE FOR AT LEAST 3, 4, 5 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN, I HAVE APPLIED FOR THE D-E-I-D-I GOT PUT ON A DIFFERENT PLACE. UM, THAT'S FINE. SO THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING FOR A LONG TIME, AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME. BUT AS, AS THEY JUST BROUGHT UP, WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE TRYING TO REPRESENT? WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEEDS FOR? AND, AND, AND LET, LET THEM HAVE A SAY. BUT I, I WILL SAY, AND IT, IT ISN'T A, A, A, A MOOT POINT THAT, THAT THIS NAME HAS BEEN CHANGED MANY, MANY TIMES. AND THE LAST ONE IS TO BE DITCHED. AND THE CITY COUNCIL PUSHED IT BACK. WE SAID, NO, WE'VE HAD ENOUGH. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE, IN SOME WAYS YOUR, SOME OF THE ARGUMENT HERE IS THAT ARE WE MISREPRESENTING WHAT OUR PURPOSE IS? YOU KNOW? UM, BUT WE ALL BELONG. SO IT WAS THOUGHT OF AND, AND, UH, AND SUGGESTED BACK TO THE DID COMMISSION AT THE TIME. LET'S MAKE THAT A SLOGAN. AND YOU GUYS APPROVED THAT. UH, BUT AT THE TIME, NOT YOU SPECIFICALLY, YOU GUYS APPROVED ALL THIS. AND THAT BECAME THE SLOGAN. SO I TALKED TO OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS, OUTSIDE RESOURCES, AND NO ONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THE NAME CHANGE. AND I'M NOT TRYING TO ADMIT, DISMISS ANYONE'S CONCERNS HERE. 'CAUSE THERE ARE VALID CONCERNS. I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR CONCERNS ARE, WE'RE NOT OUTBREAKING LEAVES AND THINGS. I'M NOT TOO KEEN ON THE NAME WHEN IT FIRST CAME UP. BUT TO ME, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO, TO DIMINISH ANYONE'S CONCERNS OR PASSION TOWARD THIS, TO ME, THERE'S SOMETHING MORE CRITICAL ABOUT THIS. WHAT'S THE HEART OF THIS GROUP? WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH? WHAT HAVE WE BEEN ACCOMPLISHING? AND HOW DO WE PRO CONTINUE THAT ACCOMPLISHMENT AND WITH BETTER DIRECTION, BETTER RESOURCES AND BETTER STRENGTH AND, AND, AND BROAD. SO THAT'S MY FEELING OF WHAT THIS SUBCOMMITTEE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, FACT FINDING AND THINGS. MY THING I'VE BEEN DOING IS I'VE JUST BEEN RESEARCHING THIS AS AN INDIVIDUAL SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBER RESEARCHING EVERYTHING. BUT I THINK NIKKI'S PUT THIS OUT TO THE, TO THE FOLKS AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ON A NAME CHANGE. OR [00:30:01] HAS SOMETHING THAT SHE WANTED TO SAY. SHE HAD HER HAND LEFT. I'M SORRY, EBO. NO, YOU, I CAN'T SEE WITH THE SUN BEHIND YOU. . I SO APOLOGIZE. UM, CAN I SAY MY OPINION? IS THAT YES. OKAY. YEAH. SORRY. THAT'S WHAT YOUR HAIR OF ME. UM, I, I I DO DISAGREE WITH THE NAME CHANGE. I'M TRIGGERED IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. RIGHT? UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO BE ON THE COMMISSION WAS BECAUSE I DID THINK THAT WE'RE NOT MAKING EVERYONE INCLUDED AND HUDDLE UP. AND I WANTED TO BE A PART OF HELPING WITH THAT. UM, IF WE CHANGE IT TO CUSTOMER, NO, SORRY, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE, COMMUNITY SERVICE. COMMUNITY SERVICE. HONESTLY, I WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN READ THE DEFINITION TO KNOW WHAT THE COMMISSION DID. UM, JUST BECAUSE I WOULD'VE ASSUMED IT WAS COMMUNITY SERVICE, RIGHT? I WOULD'VE PROBABLY DID SOME VOLUNTEER WORK OR SOMETHING. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASSUME, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST ME. UM, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO ISN'T ON THE BOARD OR ISN'T INVOLVED WITH CITI EVERY DAY, THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE. I QUESTION SINCE YOU SAID THAT Y'ALL DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A SAY IN THE NAME CHANGE, WHICH I FELT CRAZY. UM, IF ASKING THE PEOPLE WILL MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE, IF WE ASK THE PEOPLE AND THEY SAY, ABSOLUTELY NOT, WE DON'T AGREE. UM, WILL, WILL ANYTHING HAPPEN WITH THAT? I ACTUALLY THINK YOU'RE AWESOME, BY THE WAY, , YOU'RE MY FAVORITE. UM, BIG . BUT, UM, I, I, I, I, I DON'T KNOW. I QUESTION IF THAT'S GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING. IF, IF THE CITY COUNCIL, AND IT'S INTERESTING, WHEN I FIRST MET YOU GUYS IN THE INTERVIEW, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I TOLD YOU. UM, BUT I, I WAS LIKE, ARE YOU GUYS THE DIVERSE STATE COUNCIL? I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THE CITY COUNCIL AT ALL. AND THEY WERE LIKE, NO. AND I WAS LIKE, OH, GOOD. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT DIVERSE . UM, SO, BUT ANYWAYS, UM, SO YEAH, I I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THE WILL COUNCIL HERE THAT SAY SOMETHING'S VERY DIVERSE. UM, I, I'M SORRY. I I ONLY HEARD ABOUT IT NOW. SO MY PROCESSING IS, YEAH. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. NEW, UM, ANYWAYS, I, I, I JUST QUESTION IF IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF WE TALK TO THE PEOPLE OR NOT. UM, AND, AND I DO ALSO QUESTION WHAT OUR GOALS ARE. UM, IF THE GOAL OF DDIV OR COMMUNITY SERVICE TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE DIVERSE, FEEL INCLUDED. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASSUME, RIGHT? UM, I, I'M, WHY WOULD ANYONE NOT FEEL LIKE THEY BELONG IF THEY HEAR DEIB INCLUSION AND BELONGING, RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW. BUT MY WHOLE GOAL IS, IS THE POINT TO HELP PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE NOT A PART OF, UM, THE COMMUNITY FEEL INCLUDED, RIGHT? THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DIVERSE OR, OR A MINORITIES, RIGHT? OR IS IT REALLY TO JUST BE A PLACE WHERE ANYBODY IN HUDDLE CAN COME AND HAVE FUN OR, OR BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF THAT IS THE GOAL, THEN THE NAME CHANGE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. SAY THAT AGAIN, THE LAST PART. UM, LIKE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT CHANGE TO COMMUNITY SERVICE, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF THE GOAL IS FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY TO COME AND FEEL INCLUDED IN THE CITY, RIGHT? RIGHT. LIKE, COME AND DO SOMETHING WITH US. COME AND RIGHT. BE A PART OF THE CITY. YOU, YOU BELONG. I DO. LIKE, YOU BELONG AS PART OF THE, THE SLOGAN FOR THE ACTUAL DIV. I THINK THAT'S REALLY NICE. BUT, UM, IF LIKE, WHEN YOU SEE DEIV AS A PERSON, WOMAN NEURODIVERSE BLACK, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, THAT'S A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN GO AND FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE YOU OR PEOPLE OR PROGRAMS FOR YOU, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, LIKE IT'S SOMEWHERE WHERE LIKE, I CAN GO BE INCLUDED IN THE CITY AS THIS, RIGHT? IT IS NOT ALWAYS COMFORTABLE. UM, BUT 'CAUSE YOU SEE THE NAME, YOU KNOW, YOU PROBABLY CAN SHOW UP OR BE A PART OF IT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT IF I THINK COMMUNITY SERVICE DOES NOT, AND I, I, I THINK MAYBE WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL IS, AND I, I USE THE WORD IGNORANT AS A, AS A, AS THE DENOTATION. I KNOW IT HAS A BAD CONNOTATION, BUT I THINK THE COUNCIL MAY BE IGNORANT OF ALL THESE THINGS THAT, BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M A LITTLE NEURODIVERSE, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT A MINORITY. MY MINORITY IS, I'M OLD. UH, I'M, I, I GREW UP HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS MY ENTIRE LIFE. SO THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE JUST, TO ME, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE SECOND RESEARCH OUTSIDE OF OUR KIDS, BUT NUMBER ONE RESOURCE IS DIVERSITY. THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE RESOURCE IN THIS WORLD'S DIVERSITY THAT GIVES ME TRUTH, NUMBERS. UH, AND I REALLY, I TRULY BELIEVE I'M NOT REAL KEEN WITH THE NAME THAT WHEN THEY COME UP MM-HMM . UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IF WE HAD NOT PASSED THAT, THAT MOTION THAT NIGHT, THEN [00:35:01] I THINK THERE WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH MORE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR THIS. SO TO ME, AND IT WAS A, I IT WAS A FIVE TWO VOTE, FOUR, THREE VOTE. UM, ME, I WANNA, I WANT TO NOT RESOLVE THIS. I, I WANT, I WANT TO INCLUDE EVERYONE IN THIS SOLUTION OR, OR CREATING THE SOLUTION AND THEN INVOLVE EVERYONE IN HOW WE DISTRIBUTE OUR, THE, OUR GOODS, OUR SERVICE, OR WHAT Y'ALL, Y'ALL ARE Y'ALL'S PRODUCT. AND SO, UM, I KNOW I TALK TOO MUCH AT TIMES. IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME. IT'S HARD GET WORDS TIME WHEN I GET A LITTLE EMOTIONAL. SO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. RIGHT. UM, WELL THANKS FOR THAT. I THINK, UH, ONE, ONE THING THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT'S REALLY GOOD IS THAT NOTHING IS SET IN STONE. SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO DO THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, RESEARCH. AND SO FINDING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT WE WANT TO DO. AND I, I FEEL I, I AM HAPPY THAT THAT'S WHAT IT IS, BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE NAMES ESSENTIALLY SET. UM, SO THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. UM, AND, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT POINT BY YOU, UM, SAYING THAT, WHAT IS THE COM COM COMMISSION FOR? IS IT FOR HELPING DIVERSE GROUPS OR IS IT JUST A PLACE WHERE EVERYONE IS WELCOME AND BASED ON WHAT THE GOAL IS, WE WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT PLANS AND STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE THOSE, THOSE OUTCOMES. SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO, UH, WANNA MAKE SURE WE TALK ABOUT. AND SO I I, I DO AGREE. WE, WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, UH, WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE AS WELL. ON, ON WHAT'S THE GOAL. MY, UH, MY CONCERN IS IF WE GET CAUGHT UP IN THE MORE, YOU KNOW, INSIGNIFICANT, NOT NECESSARILY INSIGNIFICANT, UH, IN THE SENSE THAT IT HAS NO IMPORTANT, BUT I BELIEVE MORE IN ACTION. AND SO IF THAT'S, IF, IF THINKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING STOPS US FROM DOING GOOD WORK, THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRIKE A BALANCE. YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE DON'T WANNA FOCUS ALL OUR ATTENTION. OKAY, WHAT'S HER NAME? WHAT'S OUR PURPOSE? WE ARE DOING SOME GOOD WORK HERE. LET'S CONTINUE. WE CAN FOCUS AND WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THAT AS WELL. BUT I DON'T WANT THAT EFFORT TO BOTTLENECK OUR ACTION AND OUR EFFORTS THAT, THAT ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. SO ONE LAST COMMENT, AND I THINK THIS IS MAYBE WHERE, AGAIN, THE COUNCIL'S IGNORANCE PROBABLY GOT OFF MY TOPIC, BUT IS THAT THE, THE, THE TRADITIONAL DEIB? UM, I, I DON'T WANNA USE DEII SEPARATE DEI AS BEING AN AR, HR, PUTTING PEOPLE IN POSITIONS, WHICH I THINK IS B******T. YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, WHOEVER'S THE BEST TAKES IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S IT. UM, UH, AND I MEAN THAT, UH, I, I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THE, AND THE POSSIBILITY AND THE CHOICES. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S, IT IS PEOPLE GET LIMITED OF, OF THIS, WHETHER IT BE SCHOOLS OR WHETHER IT BE LOANS, OR IT WOULD BE, UM, SPONSORSHIPS OR SUPPORT. UH, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE EQUAL. UH, BUT, AND I SAY THE DIB AND I ALWAYS SAY THE HUDDLE, IT'S DIFFERENT 'CAUSE IT'S ABOUT THE BELONGING. I LIKE THE ONE WE ADDED THE, THE, THE B BELONGING. BUT OUR THREE FOCUS, OR Y'ALL'S THREE FOCUS GROUPS ARE VETERANS, SENIORS, AND SMALL BUSINESS. THAT'S NOT TRADITIONAL. DDID, BROWN PEOPLE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT. STUFF, WHICH I DON'T LIKE SAYING. UH, BUT THAT'S NOT WHERE YOUR TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE FOCUS HAS BEEN FOR OVER TWO YEARS, I THINK NOW. 'CAUSE THOSE SORT OF WORK GROUPS, I THINK JACQUELINE HELPED PRODUCE, BINA WAS THE MAIN, UH, WAS WAS THE CHAIR AT THE TIME. AND YOU GUYS COULD TAKE THAT TOO. BUT VETERAN SENIORS, THEN I THINK WE'RE ADDING THE NEWER DIVERSITY AS A POTENTIAL. I THINK THAT NUMBER ONE. BUT I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE COUNCIL EX IGNORANT AND I'LL INCLUDE MYSELF, YOU KNOW, IS THAT WE JUST DON'T KNOW ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THIS FITS IN WITH WHAT THE, THE, THE DOCUMENTATION SAYS. RIGHT. SO I'LL, I'LL, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF BELIEVE IT, JUST KIND OF MAKE THIS LIKE A LONGER CONVERSATION. IT NEEDS TO BE. BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A COMMISSION, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO REALLY SIT DOWN AND TALK TO. BECAUSE MY PERSONAL OPINION, JUST FROM THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE HAS BEEN THAT A LOT OF THE HISTORY ON THIS COMMISSION, LOOKING BACK, LOOKING THROUGH PAST MEETINGS, LOOKING THROUGH PAST SITUATIONS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THOSE THREE GROUPS IS BECAUSE THEY'RE SAFE GROUPS. THERE'S NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL ABOUT SENIORS. THERE'S NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL ABOUT VETERAN. THERE'S NOTHING CONTROVERSIAL ABOUT SMALL BUSINESS. AND I THINK THAT TO HAVE A, A NAME CHANGE WHERE, LIKE YOU SAID, THE NAME HAS CHANGED MULTIPLE TIMES. [00:40:01] AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS CHANGED WHENEVER THERE'S A FLASHPOINT SOCIALLY AROUND THE TOPIC MM-HMM . AND I THINK EVENTUALLY WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THERE'S JUST BEEN A KIND OF LIKE A CONSISTENT WATERING DOWN OF THE NAME TO MAKE IT MORE PALATABLE TO PEOPLE SO THAT WHEN THEY EVEN ADDING THE BELONGING PIECE TO IT, I THINK THE BELONGING PIECE IS SOMETIMES A LITTLE REDUNDANT TO INCLUSION. BUT I THINK IT TAKES THE STING AWAY FROM JUST CALLING IT A DEI COMMISSION. SO NOW YOU HAVE THIS, THIS VARIATION UPON WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HEAR AND HOW THEY REACT TO IT. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR US AS A COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE, AGAIN, A NAME CHANGE WHERE WE'RE SAYING, HEY, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE. I THINK THE SAME AMOUNT OF CARE THAT WE GAVE TO NAMING A HIGH SCHOOL AND NOT JUST PICKING A NAME AND LIKE, WELL, THIS NAME, WE, WE DON'T HAVE TO STICK WITH THIS HIGH SCHOOL NAME. WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE IT. I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S POWER INCONSISTENCY AND I THINK THE CITIZENS ALL DID. NO, NO. BUT, BUT MY POINT IS THAT WE, WE, WE DON'T JUST SWITCH NAMES ROUTINELY, RIGHT? LIKE, BUSINESSES DON'T DO IT. RIGHT. I AGREE IN DEPART, YOU KNOW, ANY ORGANIZATION I'VE BEEN A PART OF, WE DON'T EVEN CHANGE DEPARTMENT NAMES WITHOUT GIVING A LOT OF THOUGHT TO IT. SO I THINK THAT IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, I, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE ONE WE NEED. AND WITH YOUR HELP, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT THAT PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE TO COME TO A FINAL NAME. I THINK THE NAME NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YES, THERE'S PROBABLY SOME, UH, UH, COMMUNITY INPUT THAT COULD BE HELPFUL. BUT I THINK MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT, IT NEEDS TO REFLECT WHAT THE GROUP IS SUPPOSED THE COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING DONE. UM, AND I THINK THAT WE AS A GROUP, EVEN IF IT'S US COMING UP WITH ALTERNATIVE NAMES, IF THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE CASE, WHATEVER, BUT I FEEL LIKE THAT NAME SHOULD BE DRIVEN FROM THE COMMISSION AND IT SHOULDN'T COME FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSION. IF YOU'RE, AS YOU'RE SAYING, PEOPLE ARE IGNORANT ABOUT WHAT DEIB, BECAUSE EVEN, YEAH, I THINK EVEN SAYING DEIB IS A HR THING, I THINK THAT TO ME IS STILL PART OF THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THE TOPIC. I, PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE SEE THAT AS A, AS A ANTITHESIS TO MERIT BASE. AND, AND IT'S, IT'S LESS ABOUT THAT AS OPPOSED TO MAKING SURE EVERYBODY, WHATEVER, WHATEVER YOUR GOAL IS, RIGHT? YOU CAN COME TO THE TABLE, YOUR VOICE CAN BE HEARD JUST AS LOUD AS ANYONE ELSE'S, YOU KNOW, REGARDS TO SITUATIONS. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE NEED TO HAVE, OR WE DO CLEARLY NEED TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM ON THIS, UM, FURTHER CONVERSATION, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEXT STEPS NEED TO BE IN ORDER TO COME TO A FINAL NAMING. RIGHT? UM, OR THE FULL RATIONALE BEHIND THAT. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO VOTED ON THE NAME FROM COUNCIL COME TO ONE OF THESE, IF IT NEEDS TO BE US COMING TO PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT CONVERSATION AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, WHATEVER IT NEEDS TO BE. I JUST THINK THAT IT, IT'S, MY BIGGEST FEAR IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS NAME ON THE BACK BURNER TO THE POINT WHERE IT DOES BECOME IRRELEVANT. AND THEN WHAT WE HAVE IS A COMMITTEE THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE ANY REAL PURPOSE. BECAUSE NOW THE NEXT THING WE KNOW IS THAT OUR GOAL OR OUR PURPOSE HAS BEEN CHANGED AND VOTED UPON. AND WE DON'T HAVE A SAY IN THAT. AND THAT'S JUST THE NEXT THING. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TRUTH. YOU'RE BEING COMFORTABLE TO BE OPEN WITH ME. 'CAUSE I WANT, I NEED TO HEAR ALL THIS. I REALLY DO. THE GOOD, THE BAD AND, AND THE NOT SO GOOD. UM, SO, UH, FEEL FREE AND I, I CAN GIVE YOU OUT MY CARDS OR WHATEVER. Y'ALL COULD REACH TO ME ONE-ON-ONE ANY TIME. I, I DO WANT TO, I THINK THIS IS THIS, ALL OF THESE NAME CHANGES HAVE COME FROM THE COMMISSION. NO, NO. I COME FROM OUTSIDE. NO, NO. I'M AWARE OF THAT. I, I, I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, I JUST MAKING SURE THAT WAS THE CASE. I JUST THINK THAT THE NAME, THAT THE FACT THAT THERE'S NOT CONSISTENCY ON THAT IS PART OF THE PROBLEM TOO. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENT. RIGHT. SO WITH, WITH THAT, UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE ONE POINT AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF MOVE ON TO, UH, HOW TO KIND OF DEAL WITH THIS IN THE FUTURE, UM, MEETINGS. SO, UH, ONE, ONE THING THAT YOU SAID, JIM, I JUST, UH, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT, UH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE THREE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE DID THERE, THEY WERE ALL MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY WERE ALL PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE PART OF COUNCIL AT THAT TIME, BUT, UM, THEY'RE ALL PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL, AND THEN THE COUNCIL APPROVED THEM. AND SO TO ME, IT'S LIKE, WE GO TO THE COUNCIL AS A COMMISSION, WE SAY AS PART OF THIS COMMISSION, WE ARE DOING A, B, AND C. AND THE COUNCIL SAYS, GO AHEAD, DO THAT. AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR THE COUNCIL SAYS, HEY, YOU'RE DOING A, B, C. WHY ARE YOU DOING A, B, C? IT'S TOO GENERIC. WELL, WE KIND OF PRESENTED IT TO YOU, AND THEN WE COULD HAVE HAD THE ALIGNMENT CONVERSATION THEN, OR NOT EVEN JUST THEN, LIKE EVERY POINT SINCE THAT POINT, UNTIL WE GET DROPPED THE BOMB, LIKE, HEY, [00:45:01] YOU GUYS ARE NOT DOING THIS. SO WE'RE THINKING OF CANCELING THE ENTIRE THING. RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE, THE, THE, THE ISSUE THAT WE ARE FEELING. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE INVOLVEMENT WITH THE COUNCIL, WITH THE FORMING OF SUBCOMMITTEE. I THINK THAT IS THAT, THAT, THAT CERTAINLY IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND SO WE KIND OF WANNA JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT, OR AT LEAST HOW YOU SEE THAT HAPPENING. SHOULD THIS BE AN AGENDA ITEM EVERY SINGLE MEETING? AND DO, SHOULD WE EXPECT THE SUBCOMMITTEE MEMBERS TO COME IN AND WE DISCUSS THIS THING LITTLE, LITTLE, LITTLE BY LITTLE? OR I DON'T KNOW, ONE AT A TIME? I DON'T KNOW. WELL, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS? MY THOUGHTS ARE, IS YOU GUYS SET YOUR AGENDA. I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THIS, OUTSIDE OF YOU GUYS. OKAY. SETTING AGENDA. THIS IS Y'ALL AGENDA. AND, AND, AND I SAID EARLIER, I DON'T MIND ME NOT BEING HERE. MM-HMM . IF YOU WANT ME TO ZOOM IN AND HAVE Y'ALL'S KIND OF EXECUTIVE SESSION WHERE YOU ARE NOT HERE, AND YOU WANT ME TO COME IN AND COMMENT OR JUST STAY OUTTA THE MEETING COMPLETELY DOESN'T OFFEND ME AT ALL. I WANT WHAT'S I REALLY DO. WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN, HONESTLY. SO I, I, I WANT TO MAKE THIS BETTER. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNCIL, INCLUDING MYSELF, YEAH, THESE ORIGINAL THINGS WERE DONE IN 2024 WHEN I WAS ON, BUT I WASN'T ON IN 2025. SO I'M NOT, IT'S ME AS WELL. SO I'M JUST ONE OF SEVEN, BUT I TAKE OWNERSHIP THAT, THAT I CAN MAKE THIS BETTER AND I CAN DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING THIS BETTER. BUT THIS REALLY HAS TO BE TRUE FROM YOU GUYS. WE'VE NOW GOT THIS THING, AND I JUST WANNA READ THIS ONE THING. THIS IS THE DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION FROM THE, THE, THE, UH, ORDINANCE AND THIS ORDINANCE OF JULY OF 2020. SO THIS IS SIX YEARS OLD, BUT IT SAYS THE COMMISSION SH THIS IS POORLY WORDED, SAID. SO THE COMMISSION SHALL PROVIDE A, UPON REQUEST OF THE CITY COUNCIL. IT SHOULD BE A COMMA OR WHATEVER, BUT COORDINATION, COLLABORATION, INNOVATION, AND FOCUS TO DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T, I THINK IT'S JUST TO, TO BE EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS TO ADDRESS EQUITY AND EMPOWERMENT ISSUES. BECAUSE THAT, SO THIS IS KIND OF THE THINGS THAT I READ THIS AS UPON REQUEST TO THE CITY COUNCIL. UH, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE UNDERSTANDING OF COORDINATION, COLLABORATION, INNOVATION, AND FOCUS TO DEVELOP, ASSIST DEVELOPMENT TO DEVELOP EFFECTIVE SOLUTIONS. SO I THINK I'M SUGARCOATING THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS, THIS LITTLE THING, THIS MOTION THAT WE, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, 10 DAYS AGO, IS THAT WE'RE JUST KIND OF REQUESTING THIS, THIS PART OF THIS. UH, BUT, BUT VIA A SUBCOMMITTEE, THE SUBCOMMITTEE HAS TO, WE HAVE TO GET OUR BUTTS OFF THE, THE CHAIR. WE NEED TO BE START MEETING AND DOING THINGS. THERE'S BEEN SOME, UM, DIVISIVENESS AND SOCIAL MEDIA BY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, UH, IT'S ALREADY CREATED THE LACK OF UNITY. AND I WAS TALKING TO A, A CONSULTANT. I MEAN, IF WE WANT UNITY OUT THERE, THAT'S THE UNITY HERE IN THIS ROOM. I'M HERE TO, TO ASSIST IN THAT, NOT CREATE ANY DIVIDE. THAT'S WHY I HAVE NO PROBLEM STEPPING OUTTA THE ROOM. I'LL BE HERE AT EVERY MEETING, UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE, HEY, COME IN, ZOOM IN AT, YOU KNOW, AT THE, ON THE HALF HOUR, WHATEVER Y'ALL WANT ME TO DO. OR HEY, JUST GIVE US ALONE TIME FOR THIS. WHAT BE SOUNDS GOOD, SIR. I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSION. WELL, HOW DO WE WANNA ENGAGE THE SUBCOMMITTEE? BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO THEN REPORT TO, WELL REPORT AS THE COUNCIL AND THEN DECIDE ON WHATEVER THEY DECIDE ON. SO, YEAH. MY, MY QUESTION FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE IS DO THEY HAVE AUTONOMY AND HELPING MENTOR US, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO, TO ACCOMPLISH, RIGHT? THE MENTOR IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY ON TRACK AND THAT WE DON'T GO OFF INTO TALL GRASS AND, YOU KNOW, OR WILL THEY BE DIRECTED TO, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHATEVER EVIDENCE, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S LIKE, ARE THEY GOING TO COME AND SAY, HEY, DO THIS, DO THIS, AND THEN WE, OR THE FACILITATORS, OR WILL THEY HAVE AUTONOMY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, FOR US TO ALL COLLABORATE AND THEN FIGURE OUT THE THING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH. THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. YEAH. AND JUST LIKE, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS SAID EARLIER BY WOODY, JUST LIKE MAKING SURE THAT LIKE THE GOALS ARE SO THAT WE DON'T, SO THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN, SO THAT WE'RE NOT DOING WORK. AND THEN WE'RE LIKE, OH, WAIT, LIKE THIS ISN'T WHAT MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, BUT AS FAR AS LIKE, HOW, HOW DO YOU SEE THIS PLAYING OUT? DO WE WANT TO LIKE, HAVE ALL THE, ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHICH IS COMMISSIONER, COUNCIL MEMBER JIM, COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA, AND COUNCIL MEMBER THORNTON, UH, COME IN ON A, UH, ON IN THE NEXT MEETING. DO YOU WANNA SET UP A, AN EXECUTIVE WORK SESSION SEPARATELY JUST TO TALK ABOUT THIS? HOW DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD GO? [00:50:01] BECAUSE TO ME, UM, THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S GONNA, IT IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME RESOLVING. AND SO, BUT WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT WAS THE SUBCOMMITTEE'S? LIKE, WHAT WAS THE DIRECTIVE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE? WELL, AGAIN, I WOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT 11.1, BUT IN SUMMARY IS, IS WHAT THAT, WHEN I SPOKE, THIS IS WHAT I WAS SAYING. SO WE GOT THESE, WE GOT THE, AND I, I KIND OF SAID IT EARLIER, BUT, UM, IS THAT THE, WE HAVE THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN. WE HAVE THE DEI STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THAT. WE ALSO HAVE AN ORDINANCE. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE ETHICS OR THE CHARTER. AND THEN WE HAVE THE WEBSITE FOR THE PURPOSE. MISSION. THEN AS I, I THINK, AND I, I, I AGREE WITH THIS. I THINK PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL BELIEVE THAT THIS IS, THESE AREN'T ALIGNED. NOTHING BAD ABOUT ANY OF THAT. BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE, HEY, WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE NESS, WHICH IS LAW. IT'S A LEGISLATIVE DOCUMENT THAT IF WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THIS, COULD THERE BE MORE SEVERE CONSEQUENCES SO THAT WE EITHER JUST THROW THIS OUT OR WE CHANGE IT SO MUCH THAT THIS ALL GOES AWAY. I DO NOT WANT ANY OF THAT. SO THE SUBCOMMITTEE KIND OF GOVERNANCE FOR I THINK IT AS A SUBCOMMITTEE IS A, IS A RECOMMEND, IS A BODY TO RECOMMEND TO THE WHOLE CITY COUNCIL. AND BY GIVING, WE GIVE A, WE GIVE REPORTS AT EVERY CITY COUNCIL MEMBER. IT'S EARLY IN THE MEETING OF WHAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE, WHATEVER UPDATE IT IS. UH, UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT THE PURPOSE AND GOALS ARE. WELL, THE PURPOSE IS, IS UNITY AND INCLUSIVENESS. THAT'S THE PURPOSE. BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT? I THINK THE SUBCOMMITTEE MUST WORK WITH THE COMMISSION AND, AND INPUTS FROM CITIZENS, UH, AND THEN COME UP AS, WHAT IS THAT GOAL? BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO IN THERE HEAVY HANDED LIKE I THINK SOME PEOPLE HAVE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO AND WE GOTTA FIGHT THIS. WELL, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. AND IT'S NOT A FIGHT, IT'S A COLLABORATION. I LIKE THE WORD COLLABORATION. YES, SIR. SO YOU COULD CLICK ON THAT. UM, AND SO IT'S A COLLABORATION, YOU KNOW, AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, INCLUDING MYSELF TO SOME EXTENT, THAT ARE IGNORANT OF WHAT THIS W WHAT, WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO, WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO HAVE GOING ON, AND, AND HOW CAN THE COUNCIL BE A BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR? SO, SO . SO THEN, SO THEN WITH THAT, I, I WOULD PROPOSE THAT I THINK THE SUBCOMMITTEE SHOULD PRESENT THEIR PERSPECTIVE TO THIS COMMISSION WHERE THE MISALIGNMENT IS AT. OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE, WE ARE ONLY THIS, THIS GROUP HAS ONLY BEEN ACTING AS LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER JOSIE SAID WITH, WE BROUGHT THIS, WE'VE BEEN APPROVED TO DO THIS. WE'VE STEPPED FORWARD, WE'VE CONTINUED TO DO THOSE THINGS. SO I THINK THAT EITHER IN, YOU KNOW, COMMUNICATION WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, GETTING THAT THOUGHT PROCESS FROM THEM. BUT I THINK BEING ABLE TO COME TO THIS COMMISSION AND SAY, HERE ARE THE THREE POINTS WHERE WE FEEL THERE IS DISALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN OF THE CITY, THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT YOU GUYS PRESENTED, THE ACTIONS THAT YOU'RE TAKING. THAT WAY WE CAN AT LEAST THEN SAY, OKAY, WELL LET'S GET ON TRACK. AND I THINK THAT IF THAT CAN'T BE PRESENTED IN A COHERENT WAY, THEN I THINK IT, IT CHANGES THE CONVERSATION INTO, WELL THEN WHAT ARE WE EVEN TALKING ABOUT? 'CAUSE CLEARLY IT'S ENOUGH TO SAY WE'RE DISALIGNED, BUT I THINK IF WE CAN'T IDENTIFY THE DISALIGNMENT AND THE MISALIGNMENT, THEN I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR TO US AS A COMMISSION TO TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT WHEN THAT DECISION WASN'T OURS IN THE FIRST PLACE. YEAH. SO I, THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION, IS THAT BE THE ACTION ITEM, UM, OR, OR THE AGENDA ITEM TO HAVE THAT PRESENTED TO US. AND THEN FROM THERE WE CAN TAKE THE STEPS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET BACK IN ALIGNMENT WITH, YOU KNOW, THE MISSION OF, OF THE COMMISSION. UM, AS THE CITY COUNCIL SEES, MY, MY SUGGESTION IS, IS, UH, AND YOU DON'T NEED TO GO, IT IS TO LOOK AT THAT ARCHIVE VIDEO, I BELIEVE IT'S ONLY 10 OR 15 MINUTES MAX. IF YOU GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU LOOK AT ART, UH, OF THE ARCHIVE VIDEO, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE AGENDA ITEM. NO, I, NO, I'M ON IT GOES THE VIDEO. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. I, I'M, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT TO READ THE, READ THE, UM, THE, THE ORDINANCE, UH, I ONLY READ IT MYSELF TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS AGENDA KIND OF CAME UP. SO MAYBE TWO WEEKS AGO. AND, AND YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DEIB STRATEGIC PLAN MM-HMM . BUT ALSO THE CITY STRATEGIC PLAN, BECAUSE IT MUST FOLLOW THAT IT'S 360 PAGES. WHAT I'LL DO IS HIGHLIGHT THE SECTIONS THAT BUILD ARE APPROPRIATE, AND I'LL LET Y'ALL KNOW SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BEEN THROUGH IT ALL. SO, UM, UNTIL THE D, UNTIL THE SUBC COMMITTEE MEETS, WHICH WE HAVEN'T YET, UM, [00:55:01] I, I HATE TO SAY THEY PUT US ON THIS AGENDA THE NEXT MEETING, BUT FORGET Y'ALL MEETINGS ARE MONTHS. SO I WOULD JUST SAY WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE THEN. I, I KEEP THINKING THIS IS EVERY TWO WEEKS, LIKE, BUT IT'S EVERY MONTHS, SO IT'S A GOOD HIGH LIKELIHOOD THAT WE CAN'T, CAN'T RESPOND. BUT I LIKE, I LIKE THAT BEING ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S FAIR TO ASK FOR MORE DIRECTION. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UH, SO JIM, DID YOU SAY YOU CAN PRESENT SOMETHING NEXT MEETING OR? I WOULD LIKE TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO MAKE A DECISION. OKAY. WHICH I'M ONE OF THREE VOTES . SO I RIGHT NOW, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO MEET DEFINITELY BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING, A RESPONSE BACK THE, THE COMMISSION, UM, BY, BY MID, SAY MID NEXT WEEK. 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE COUNCIL MEETING NEXT WEEK. SO MY WEEK ALSO HAVE TO DO ALL THOSE STUFF I HAVE. OKAY. SO I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, UH, GOOD THING. WE'LL WAIT FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, TO TELL US WHEN THEY CAN, UH, TALK MORE ABOUT THIS WITH THE, WITH THE COMMISSION. OKAY. THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD, I AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK, UM, IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW LIKE WHAT THEIR PERSPECTIVE OF THIS GROUP IS, IF THAT'S NOT PART OF WHAT YOU'RE WRITING. OKAY. AND UM, FOR THE OTHER QUESTION, IF HE SHOULD BE AT THE MEETINGS OR NOT, I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT SOMEONE ON THE CITY COUNCIL IS HEARING EVERYTHING WE'RE SAYING. SO I WOULD NEVER WANNA EXCLUDE THEM. YEAH. I WANT TO BE HERE EVERY TIME. EVEN WHEN I WASN'T ON THE CITY COUNCIL, I WAS HERE. 'CAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE Y'ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT IF I NEED TO BE EXCLUDED FOR A PORTION OR ALL OF A MEETING, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO AT ALL. AND IS THAT SOMETHING THAT MAYBE EVEN WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE, WHEN YOU GO TALK IT, I MEAN, WOULD IT, WOULD IT BE TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR AT LEAST A MEMBER OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO BE PRESENT DURING THESE? 'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT THAT'S, I WON'T BE HERE AT EVERY MEETING. WELL, BUT EVEN IF IT'S NOT YOU, RIGHT. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT OH, I UNDERSTAND. HAVE TO BE THE ONLY VOICE THAT SOMEONE, IF I'M NOT HERE, I GIVE SOMEONE ELSE TO, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT OPEN INVITE. RIGHT. THEY DON'T ALWAYS SHOW UP. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, SHOWS UP ALL TIMES. RIGHT? YEAH. I'M SAYING WHETHER I'M LIKE OR NOT. NOT KIDDING, BUT, BUT I, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE, IF I DIDN'T LOVE YOU, I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU A HARD TIME , BUT, BUT, BUT ALL MY GIRLFRIENDS. BUT I THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THREE, IF, IF WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE GOVERNANCE, GUIDANCE AND KIND OF BE IN OUR CORNER, I THINK IT CAN'T JUST BE YOUR VOICE. RIGHT. LIKE I, AND I'M SURPRISED THAT OTHERS AREN'T HERE. YEAH. I CAN ONLY VOICE ME. YEAH. SO, YEAH. BUT I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A GOOD NEXT STEP. I'M RETIRED. I JUST WORK 80 HOURS A WEEK. SO SIX HOURS OF SLEEP, 18 HOURS A DAY. ALRIGHT. WELCOME TO MY WORLD. NOT DONE EVER SINCE I WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD. ATED, . YOU WORK LIKE THAT? WELL, UH, MAYBE ABBY, WE CAN, UH, DO LIKE A GENTLE REMINDER MM-HMM . BEFORE EVERY MEETING, LIKE A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE EVERY MEETING TO SEE IF, UH, THE, THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE WOULD BE SHOWING UP. YEAH, I CAN INCLUDE THEM FOR SURE. ON THE SAME, UM, YOU KNOW, EMAIL THAT I SEND YOU ALL BEFORE THE MEETINGS. OKAY, PERFECT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS TOPIC? ALL RIGHT. UH, MOVING ON, 7.4, DISCUSSION ON NEURO DIVERGENCE INITIATIVE. I'M NOT SURE IF I WAS TASKED WITH ANYTHING, UM, THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST MEETING. UM, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS, THIS WEEK, UH, THIS MONTH TO PRESENT. BUT IF ANYBODY ELSE, I THINK WE SKIPPED, UM, PUBLIC INPUT OPPORTUNITIES. OH, MY BAD. YOU'RE GOOD. MY BET. OKAY. 7.3 DISCUSSION ON CURRENT AND FUTURE PUBLIC INPUT OPPORTUNITIES. THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE, UH, FORM, THE GOOGLE FORM. YES. SO I CHECKED IT OUT. I MEAN, IT LOOKS GOOD. I THINK IT DOES GIVE YOU THE OPTION, UH, OR YOU, IT'S REALLY SMALL, BUT THAT YOUR EMAIL AND NAME IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SURVEY. SO WHATEVER YOU JUST PUT IN THAT LITTLE SECTION, WHEN YOU SUBMIT IT, IT'S NOT GONNA, AT LEAST NOT PUBLIC OR FRONT FACING. RIGHT. WON'T IDENTIFY ANYBODY WHO SUBMITS INFORMATION. SO, UM, YEAH, I UNDERSTAND MEAN. I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA BE GETTING IT OUT THERE. THE EASIEST WAY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW. UM, I MEAN, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO AND WE CAN INCLUDE, UM, IN, YOU KNOW, [01:00:01] IN OUR CONTENT. I KNOW THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING KIND OF A, A, A ROUNDUP OF WHAT SENSORY FRIENDLY, UM, OFFERINGS WE HAVE. SO TO ME THAT THE, THE FEEDBACK FORM JUST GOES INTO, UM, A POST LIKE THAT, LIKE IT CAPTION, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE US TO, TO CONSIDER, PUT IT IN THIS FEEDBACK FORM. UM, WE CAN DO THAT. WE CAN PUT IT IN OUR NEWSLETTER. UM, BUT YEAH, WE, SO WE CAN PUT THAT INTO OUR ROTATION AND, AND THEN I'D ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO SHARE IT TOO. DO YOUR OWN FACEBOOKS AND NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND ALL THAT JAZZ. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? YES. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT. SO OUR, OUR KIND OF, UH, FEEDBACK RELIES ON THIS, UH, FEEDBACK FORM AND THEN THE SURVEY THAT WE DO, WHICH IS EVERY TWO YEARS. OUTSIDE OF THAT, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY STRUCTURED WAY OF GATHERING FEEDBACK. CORRECT. THAT CORRECT. SO W WHEN YOU'RE DONE YEAH. UM, AT THE SENIORS RESOURCE FAIR ON THURSDAY, UH, YVETTE, BRIDGET AND LINDA DUMAS AND CHUCK TROOP HAVE PUT TOGETHER A, A LITTLE, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A FIVE BY EIGHT CARD. MM-HMM . THAT GET INFORMATION, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, AND ON LIKE ALL THOSE INFORMATION, ALL THE HORSEPOWER ABOUT WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE SENIORS, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY, WHAT TYPE OF ACTIVITIES OR, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL, ALL THOSE THINGS. UM, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT SENIORS NEED, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY ANY MAY NEED SUPPORT WITH SO THAT WE CAN DIRECT RESOURCES THEIR WAY. AND ONCE WE GET ALL THAT DATA, SO PROBABLY FRIDAY OR MONDAY, UM, I'LL PUT IT AT, I'LL COLLECT IT OR PUT IT IN AN EMAIL AND THEN GET IT OUT AND MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. 'CAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, POINT OF RIGHT. CONVERSATION. SO. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO KIND MAYBE RUN LIKE A PILOT ON YEAH. ABOUT DUPLICATING THE PROCESS. YEAH. YEAH. SO NOW THAT GOES, UH, WELL, WHAT, WHAT I ENVISION IS THAT I, AT CITY EVENTS, WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING SIMILAR, LIKE A SHORT SURVEY, BUT WE SHOULD SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE ON THAT SURVEY. THEY, I MEAN, THERE IS POWER IN CONSISTENCY, AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE SURVEY QUESTIONS AREN'T ALL OVER THE PLACE DEPENDING ON WHERE WE GO. SO WE, WE WON'T WANNA TALK TO IT AND ASK THE RIGHT QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE A SHORT SURVEY. SO THAT KIND OF COVERS THE FUTURE PUBLIC INPUT. BUT THAT BEING SAID, WHAT DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY IDEAS ON WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS WE CAN ASK? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE SENIORS ARE ASKING? YEAH, I'M GONNA PULL UP RIGHT NOW, SO, OKAY. I CAN ALIGN WITH THE QUESTIONS WE HAD FOR THE SURVEY WE SENT OUT LAST YEAR. MM-HMM . THE GENERAL SURVEY. YEAH. SOMETHING ALONG WITH THAT ALSO. YEAH. THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP MORE STRUCTURED. RIGHT. BUT, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT? I CAN'T REMEMBER THAT, THAT SURVEY. YEAH, IT WAS, WELL, WE HAD A GENERAL RESIDENT SURVEY THAT WE HAVE EVERY YEAR. THAT'S IT. EVERY RIGHT. EVERY, YEAH. SO EVERY TWO YEARS. BUT WE DON'T RUN IT. THE COMMISSION DOESN'T RUN IT. IT'S RUN BY THE CITY. I THINK HE TOLD US ABOUT THAT UNIVERSITY. OH YEAH. WELL, UM, UM, IT WAS ADOPTED TO DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR. SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MOVE TOWARDS A YEAR, AN ANNUAL OH, SWEET. CADENCE YEAR. IT WAS LIKE FIVE QUESTIONS. AND I THINK THE MORE, UM, THE, THE MORE REGULAR CADENCE WILL HELP TO REALLY KEEP A PULSE. MM-HMM . I, I FELT LIKE TWO YEARS IS TOO LONG AGO THAN TWO, BUT, SO THAT WILL HELP. OKAY. SO WE CAN FIND THE ANSWERS FOR THE FEEDBACK. WE YEAH. I NEED TO GET HER OUT. YEAH. YEAH. YOU CAN GET ACCESS TO THE GOOGLE DRIVE WE HAVE. AND THAT SHOULD HOUSE ALL THE DOCUMENTS. YEAH. WE HAVE ALL, IT SHOULD BE COMING UP. WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO IT. WE'VE GOTTA FIND IT IN AN EMAIL. OKAY. UH, BUT YEAH. UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD IS LIKE COMMISSIONER HO HOLLINGSWORTH SAID SHOULD ALIGN IT WITH THE REGULAR SURVEY THAT WE HAVE. UH, [01:05:02] I ALSO WANT TO, UH, SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO SHOW THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING AND THE FACT THAT IT'S HAVING, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY IDEAS ON HOW TO, BECAUSE THE, THE REAL REASON THIS ENTIRE THING CAME UP IS TO KIND OF SEE HOW EFFECTIVE THE ABBY COMMISSION IS. RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WANNA MOVING FORWARD, BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THE BEST THAT WE CAN ON, ON HOW EFFECTIVE THIS COMMISSION IS. AND TO THAT EFFECT, I WANT, I ENVISION A QUESTION IN THE SURVEY THAT ASKS ABOUT THAT. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS IDEA, THOUGHTS, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? I'M FOR IT. BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I, UM, WHEN WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NAME CHANGE, UH, HOW, HOW, HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO SHOW WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY AND TO HELP OTHERS FEEL, YOU KNOW, UM, BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT SEX THAT FEEL STILL LEFT OUT. AND SO, UM, AND HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, SO THAT WE COULD DO BETTER AND TO HELP THEM. SO I THINK THAT'S OKAY. YEAH. AND, AND SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF QUESTIONS THAT GO ON THAT SURVEY. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY THOSE QUESTIONS ARE. SO WHAT I, I DON'T KNOW. UH, WHAT I PROPOSE IS MAYBE NEXT MEETING WE CAN COME UP WITH IDEAS ON WHAT THOSE QUESTIONS LOOK LIKE. MAYBE GET LIKE A, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYONE KIND OF THINKS OF FIVE QUESTIONS ALONG THESE LINES, AND WE HAVE A BANK OF THOSE QUESTIONS, AND THEN WE CAN THINK ABOUT WHICH QUESTION, QUESTION RESONATES THE BEST, AND WE CAN DO A QUICK ELIMINATION, SORTING AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE STRUCTURE OF THAT SURVEY LOOKS LIKE. YEAH. I SECOND, SO I'LL ADD THAT, ABBY, YOU CAN ADD THAT TO THE NEXT AGENDA. I'VE GOT THIS UP HERE TOO. AWESOME. SO, I MEAN, THIS IS PRETTY DETAILED. MM-HMM . THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS. WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT THIS MANY. RIGHT. BUT ON THE FRONT SIDE OF IT SUCCEEDS IT'S DEMOGRAPHICS MM-HMM . AND THEN ON THE OPPOSITE, UH, SIDE OF IT IS LIKE IMMEDIATE NEEDS OR SUPPORT, RIGHT? MM-HMM . AND OF COURSE, IT, IT'S GONNA CHANGE DEPENDING ON THE, OUR TARGET, RIGHT? RIGHT. AND THEN INTEREST. BUT RIGHT HERE, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO ASKS ABOUT STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. SO WHAT TYPE OF THINGS IN THE COMMUNITY THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MM-HMM . SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YEAH. SOMETHING THAT WE PUT UP, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE IF WE CAN CREATE A QUESTION ON, ON IT, UH, THAT ALSO ALIGNS WITH WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL EXPECTS OF US, THEN WE COULD TARGET TARGET THERE, RIGHT? YEAH. AND THEY'RE GONNA ANSWER, IF THEY'RE GONNA COMPLETE A SURVEY, THEY'LL BE ANSWERING A QUESTION THAT WE PROVIDE MM-HMM . SO, YOU KNOW, WE CATER IT TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN HERE. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW? YEAH. BUT I LIKE, BUT, BUT I LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST QUESTION AND ANSWER, QUESTION AND ANSWER. YEAH. IT'S GIVING THEM A CHOICE YEAH. TO PUT AN X, YOU KNOW? YES. I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD ONE. SO THAT'S LIKE ONE QUESTION. THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES YEAH. IS ONE QUESTION. INTEREST AVAILABILITY FOR, UH, LIKE VOLUNTEERING OR IF YOU WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN AN ACTIVITY OR COME TO AN ACTIVITY AND COMMUNICATION PREFERENCES. UH, IMMEDIATE NEEDS FOR DEMO. YEAH. THAT'S IT. OKAY. WHERE CAN I FIND THAT? OH, YOU EMAIL IT TO, OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. PRICHARD MADE THIS, SHE'S AT THE, THE UNITED METHODIST CHURCH DISCOVERY PRIEST. YEAH. YEAH. GREAT WORK. YEAH. I'LL SEND, I'LL, I'LL SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. SO WILL THE SURVEY BE GOING OUT AFTER, LIKE AN EVENT OR SOMETHING? THE IDEA IS THAT AT EVERY CITY EVENT WE HAVE OUR BOOTHS, COMMISSIONS BOOTH, AND THAT'S WHERE WE TAKE INFORMATION AND GIVE INFORMATION. SO IF WE HAVE ANY UPCOMING ACTIVITIES OR WE, IF WE WANNA SHARE SPECIFIC, UH, INITIATIVES, THAT'S WHERE WE DO IT. AND THAT'S GONNA BE WITH THE CITY, UH, INTERACTING DIRECTLY IN PERSON. CAN WE TALK THAT ON EVENTS TOO? NOT YET. WE COULD IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN HOST AN EVENT RIGHT NOW IF THAT'S WITHIN THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A [01:10:01] REALISTIC POSSIBILITY. WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN DIRECT THE EVENTS THROUGH THE WORKING GROUPS THAT WE FORMED. OH, OKAY. SO THE WORKING GROUP CAN HAVE LIKE FINGERS BINGO OR SOMETHING. RIGHT? YEAH. WHICH, WHICH THEY DO. WHICH THEY DO, THEY ALREADY HAVE. YEAH. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. SO, BUT AS A COMMISSION, I'M NOT SURE IF WE ARE THERE YET TO BE HOSTING OUR OWN EVENTS PER SE. HMM. OKAY. WELL, I THINK IF THE WORKING GROUPS CAN DO SURVEYS FOR US YEAH, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. AND YOU COULD HAVE SOMETHING SIMPLE, RIGHT? I THINK, OR EVEN, RIGHT. I DIDN'T DO A LOT OF EVENT COORDINATING AT WORK. HAVE NOT, UM, YOU COULD HAVE LIKE A PAPER NOT EVEN THAT BIG, WITH A QR CODE, RIGHT. WHILE THEY'RE THERE, PAY SCAN, GIVE US A FEEDBACK YEAH. SCAN IT. THEY CAN ANSWER FIVE QUESTIONS, THIRD QUESTIONS REALLY FAST. AND THAT GIVES YOU FEEDBACK FOR EVERY EVENT THAT'S OF THE NEXT EVENT. RIGHT. AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRECISELY THE IDEA. YEAH. WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR TO SIX EVENTS, CITY EVENTS EVERY YEAR. AND SO THAT GIVES US FOUR TO SIX OPPORTUNITIES EVERY YEAR TO JUST, THEY HAVE A BIGGER SURVEY, WHICH IS GREAT. YEAH. AND THEN WE HAVE THE BIGGER SURVEY THAT'S NOW GONNA BE EVERY YEAR. SO WE HAVE, WE, WE, WE WANT TO CREATE COMPREHENSIVE CHANNELS OF FEEDBACK SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND, UH, IF WE'RE NOT COORDINATING EVENTS, THEN PART OF THAT CONVERSATION FROM EARLIER IS WITH US FIGURING OUT OUR ALIGNMENT. AND THE GOALS OF THIS GROUP IS WHAT IS SUCCESS. RIGHT. WE CAN'T REALLY ASK A QUESTION, TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU'RE WINNING OR DOING WELL, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE AIMING FOR. RIGHT. RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE QUESTIONS ARE GONNA BE AND WHAT IS IT THAT WE GO FIRST. YEAH. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL GONNA HAPPEN IN PARALLEL, BECAUSE WE ALREADY DO HAVE A MISSION. YOU ALREADY DO HAVE A PURPOSE. THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS COMING IN, WE'RE GONNA ASSESS TOGETHER AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE, WHAT NOT. I UNDERSTAND. SO I'M JUST SAYING YEAH. WITH THE PURPOSE THAT YOU HAVE, WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE? THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, UH, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT THROUGH THE QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND HOW DO WE GET THERE? OKAY. I, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK AT THE, THE VERY LEAST, RIGHT. LIKE THE ESTABLISHING THE BASELINE. 'CAUSE I THINK NOT KNOWING WHERE WE ARE RIGHT. IS I THINK LIKE WE ESTABLISHED A BASELINE AND IMPROVEMENTS. IMPROVEMENT'S ALWAYS. YEAH. THE BEST IN LIKE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH, 'CAUSE I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WANT 70% WE WANT, RIGHT? YEAH. FOR ME IT'S JUST LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE SENIORS GROUP, THEIR GOAL MIGHT BE ATTENDANCE, RIGHT? WE WANT MORE ATTENDANCE, WE WANT MORE SENIORS. SO FOR THEM, TRACKING PEOPLE, TRACKING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, MAYBE DIFFERENT, LIKE, YOU GUYS HAVE A LOT OF THINGS FROM THIS ONE AREA, RIGHT? WE'RE NOT REST OF PRODUCT. RIGHT. SO LIKE, KNOWING WHAT YOUR GOAL IS HELPS YOU ACTUALLY I AGREE. THE RIGHT QUESTION. I, YES. I, YEAH. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S PART, PART OF WHAT MAKES THE COMMISSION CHALLENGING IS THERE'S VERY LITTLE BASELINE INFORMATION TO GO OFF OF. SO KIND OF LIKE STABBING AROUND IN THE DARK ABOUT IMPROVEMENT WITHOUT KNOWING WHERE WE'RE AT. SO I THINK LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS LET'S FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE MM-HMM . AND THEN FROM THERE, LIKE YOU SAID, IF THE, IF WE SEE LIKE, HEY, WELL, IT'S KIND OF WEIRD THAT WE ONLY GET EVERYBODY FROM THIS ONE SECTION. SO NOW MAYBE THE GOAL IS CAN WE GET MORE PEOPLE FROM HERE? YEAH. SO, UH, YEAH. BUT I THINK THOSE, THAT FIRST YEAH, THAT GIVES US THE IMPRESSION, GIVES US WHERE WE'RE LIKE, WHAT ARE WE STARTING WITH FIRST? MM-HMM . UM, GIVE US THAT IMPRESSION OF ALL SUCCESS TOO. RIGHT? RIGHT. WE THINK WE'RE DOING SOMETHING GOOD. YEAH. AND IT TURNS OUT WE'RE LIKE, WE FORGOT ABOUT YEAH. MM-HMM . THE REST. YEAH. YEAH. AND I THINK CITY COUNCIL WILL LIKE THAT. SO THEY DO WANT EVERYONE TO BE SEEN. RIGHT? SO KNOWING WHERE WE ARE AND WHO WE ACTUALLY ARE HELPING MATTERS. SO BASELINE IS ABSOLUTELY. UM, AND THEN SO PART OF THAT PART, WE'LL, WE'LL CONVENE NEXT MEETING, TALK ABOUT MAYBE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS WHAT, HOW DO WE DEFINE SUCCESS? AND THEN KIND OF FOLLOWING UP ON THAT, WE TALK ABOUT WHAT QUESTIONS WOULD REFLECT THAT. OKAY. THOUGHTS ANYMORE? YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. BRING NONE. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 7.4, DISCUSSION ON YOUR DIVERGENCE INITIATIVE. UM, ANYBODY HAS ANY UPDATES? I THINK LAST TIME WE SPOKE, UH, WE WERE [01:15:01] TRYING TO GET, UH, I FORGOT THESE SAID FROM PARKS. JEFF. JEFF, JEFF, UH, SOME OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING, OR LIKE HOW EITHER CONVERSATIONS AROUND, LIKE PARK BEING DESIGNATED AS, UM, NO, I'M BRINGING THE NAME NEURODIVERGENT. UH, YEAH. AUTISM CERTIFIED. AUTISM CERTIFIED. MM-HMM . UH, DO THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN EITHER HIGHLIGHT THAT AT THE PARK? SO WHEN THEY GO, UM, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO, OR UNDERSTANDING WHAT THOSE, WHAT THAT QUALIFICATION IS SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO KIND OF MAINTAIN IT OR WHATEVER, OR BRING PUBLIC AWARENESS TO IT? I THINK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MM-HMM . FOR THE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA YEAH. SHARING THE DIFFERENT, UH, SENSORY OPTIONS. SO I DID TALK TO JEFF AND THE IDEA WAS, OR THE DIFFERENCE WAS, HE SAID THAT AS A DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE AUTISM CERTIFIED OR, OR ACCREDITED. UM, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PARK SPECIFIC THING. SO IT'S HUDDLE, PARKS AND RECREATION IS ACCREDITED THAT WAY. UM, BUT I DID TALK TO HIM ALSO ABOUT, UM, JUST MAYBE DOING LIKE AN, UH, AN AUDIT OF THE SIGNAGE THAT'S OUT THERE, UM, AND, AND MAKING IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT PUTTING SOMETHING UP IN THE FRONT JUST TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS A, A SENSORY FRIENDLY PARK. THERE ARE THESE AMENITIES. UM, AND HE WAS OPEN TO THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT IN THE NEW BUDGET YEAR FOR SURE. SO WOULD THAT MEAN THAT WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO JEFF OR LIKE ASK PERMISSION? WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO HIM AND SEE WHAT OPTIONS WE HAVE TO PURSUE THESE. YEAH. I COULD SEE IF HE WAS, IF HE BE AVAILABLE TO COME. OKAY. UM, NEXT MONTH. BUT THIS IS A NEW WORKING GROUP. NO. UH, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS WE ARE TRYING TO, UH, MOVE TOWARDS, UM, NEURODIVERGENCE PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN AND BY EMAIL, EMAIL WITH THE PARK SAYING IT'S, IT'S FOR FAMILY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I THINK I SAW SOME BAG COME OUT FROM THE, UH, FRIDGE. RIGHT. I JUST REMEMBER GETTING AN EMAIL. HEY, THAT'S SO COOL. LAKE HU, PARK, LAKE HUDDLE. THERE WE GO. IT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND THEY HAVE A NEW NEURODIVERGENT, UH, CAPITAL, CAPITAL FACILITIES CHANGE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN RELEASED OR NOT. I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FRITZ PARK, BUT MY FIRST THOUGHT IS NO. UH, BUT THE THING AT, AT LAKE HU IS THERE'S TEXTUAL AND, UH, UH, ALL SORTS OF PHYSICAL THINGS, OR NEURODIVERGENT. YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS LAKE HU. BUT THE IDEA IS THAT AS PART OF THAT AWARENESS CAMPAIGN, WE COLLECT AND, UH, SPOTLIGHT THINGS THAT HU IS ALREADY DOING. UH, AND SOME OF THE THINGS, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND OUT IS THAT THE, THE ARTS DEPARTMENT IS AUTISM CERTIFIED. YES. THE, OR I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ACTUAL CERTIFICATION NAME IS, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE, UM, THAT WE WOULD SHOUT THAT OUT ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING. MM-HMM . AS PART OF THE AWARENESS CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF US, WE GO, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THESE ARE AMENITIES OR THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY PROVIDES. AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE AWARENESS PUBLIC CAMPAIGN. YEAH. COOL. OKAY. SO NOT A WORKING GROUP? NOT A WORKING GROUP. NO. WOULD'VE BEEN COOL. AND IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE DO EVENTS MM-HMM . IT'D BE REALLY COOL TO BE AN EVENT WHERE WE'RE MAKING SENSORY TOYS FOR THE KIDS OR SOMETHING. OH YEAH. ABSOLUTELY. THE, THE, UH, LONG-TERM GOAL IS TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE ESTABLISHED ENOUGH, OR THIS THOUGHT AND THIS IDEA IS ESTABLISHED ENOUGH AND STRUCTURED ENOUGH TO THEN TRANSFORM INTO A WORKING GROUP OR ESTABLISH A WORKING GROUP AT THAT POINT. UM, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST RESEARCH AND FIGURING OUT, UH, HOW WE WANT TO STRATEGIZE AROUND THIS. BUT EVEN IF THERE'S NO WORKING GROUP FOR NEURODIVERSE, WE NEED TO STILL REPRESENT OR, OR DO THINGS FOR THEM. RISK WELL, YEAH. AND IT, IT CAME UP. IT, IT, AND, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE REASON WHY I LIKE THE, THE FORM, RIGHT? THE, THE PUBLIC FORUM, UH, OR INPUT FORM WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM FEELING LIKE WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH WHERE THE NEED IS, AS OPPOSED TO GIVING THE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY LIKE, LOOK, HERE'S, HERE'S, HERE'S A NEED. HERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. RIGHT? LIKE THE NEURODIVERGENT CONVERSATION, I THINK CAME UP FROM ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING. UM, IT WAS, UM, MR. [01:20:01] ARD. YEAH. BRIAN ARD. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT GROUPS WITHIN PATO, RIGHT. THAT, THAT PROBABLY FEEL A NEED OR, OR A DESIRE MORE INCLUSIVE. YES. YOU KNOW, AND SO WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS NOT HAVE IT BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LIKE, WELL, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS WHERE, THIS IS WHERE OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO BE. AND GIVING THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO LIKE, HEY, LIKE, WE DON'T FEEL FREE. I FELT THE COMMISSION'S JOB WAS TO FIND WAYS TO GIVE THE PEOPLE TO COME TO US TO, RIGHT. WHICH IS WHAT, WHICH IS WHAT THE, THAT FORM. THAT'S WHY WE PUT THE FORM. THAT'S WHY YOU DID THE FORM. THAT'S WHY WE DID THE FORM. RIGHT. THAT MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE'S COMING INTO THIS MEETING YEAH. TO TALK TO US. BUT IF THERE WAS LIKE A ANONYMOUS OR A WAY FOR THEM TO SUBMIT THAT, WELL, WE JUST PUT IT UP. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, SO THE, THE NEURODIVERGENT, OR NOT THE NEURODIVERGENT, BUT IT'S THE AUTISM CERTIFIED CENTER. SO THAT'S THE DESIGNATION THAT PARKS AND RECS GOT IN 2025. AND DO YOU GUYS COLLABORATE, LIKE WITH THE, THE AUTISM SCHOOL OR THE, THE AUTISTIC SCHOOL? NOT YET. NO. BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD LOOK INTO. AND, UH, SO WE'RE SERVING THEIR KIDS. RIGHT. I THINK WE DID, WE HAVE COME UP FROM THE ISD, UH, IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, BECAUSE I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE A LOT MORE INTERACTION WITH, UH, WITH, WITH THE SCHOOL. SO WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, I WAS JUST WONDERING. 'CAUSE UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THERE, BUT I DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY. RIGHT. YEAH. INTERESTING. YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN. UH, AND WE, AS FAR AS THIS IDEA IS CONCERNED, I THINK WE HAVE BIO FROM ALL, ALL SORTS OF, UH, GROUPS. YEAH. SO INCLUDING THE ISD. SO, UH, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY AND EXPLORE WHAT WE CAN DO IN THAT DIRECTION. IT'S REALLY COOL. IT'S REALLY COOL TO SEE THAT ON THE . ANYTHING, UH, ELSE ON NEURODIVERGENCE? UH, NOTHING. ALRIGHT. UH, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO, UH, WE'LL KEEP THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR NEXT MONTH AS WELL. BUT, UM, MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, 7.5 DISCUSSION, POSSIBLE ACTION PROCLAMATION. SPONSORSHIPS. THIS ONE'S ON ME. UH, I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH SOME PERSONAL STUFF, SO I COULDN'T GET TO IT, BUT, UH, MR. HOLSWORTH AND COMMISSIONER WILLIAMSON, YOU GUYS WEREN'T HERE LAST TIME. WHAT I HAVE COME UP WITH A, AND I SHOWED, UH, SHOWED THE COMMISSION ON THE LAST MEETING IS A, UM, SIMPLE SCHEDULE. AND THEN PART OF THAT SCHEDULE IS EVERY COMMISSIONER, UH, ONE OF THOSE, ONE OF THE ITEMS OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN IS TO ATTEND COUNCIL MEETINGS. AND SO SEVEN COMMISSIONERS, THERE'S ABOUT 2223 COUNCIL MEETINGS IN A YEAR. UH, THE IDEA WOULD BE FOR ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, OR ONE COMMISSIONER TO ATTEND THREE COUNCIL MEETINGS IN THE YEAR. AND, UH, TWO SPONSOR ONE PROCLAMATION IN THE YEAR. SO WE HAVE A GENERAL BASELINE OF ABOUT SEVEN PROCLAMATIONS AND, YOU KNOW, 21 COUNCIL MEETINGS ATTENDED. AND SO BASED ON YOUR SEAT, UH, THE SCHEDULE IS STRUCTURED BASED ON YOUR SEAT. SO IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN SEAT SEVEN, YOU WILL FOLLOW WHATEVER'S THE SEAT SEVEN, UH, SCHEDULE IS. AND SO THAT WORK HASN'T BEEN COMPLETE. AND THAT'S ON ME. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT NEXT TIME IT IS COMPLETE. BUT I DID GIVE A DEMO OF WHAT THAT SCHEDULE LOOKS LIKE. UM, SO WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHICH, UH, WHAT, WHAT PROCLAMATIONS WE ARE SPONSORING OR WE WANT TO SPONSOR. AND IDEALLY IT'S GONNA BE ONE PER PERSON OR PER, PER COMMISSIONER PER YEAR. SO WITH THAT, UM, WE CAN KIND OF THROW OUT, UM, OR THROW IN ALL, ALL POTENTIAL PROCLAMATIONS THAT Y'ALL WANNA SPONSOR. I KNOW A LOT OF US HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN BEFORE. I KNOW. YEAH. AND IT COULD BE SOMETHING WE'VE ALREADY DONE OR SOMETHING WE YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, REPEAT IF YOU WANT TO. THAT'S COMPLETELY FINE. I THINK WE DID ONE FOR MLK AND THEN WE DID ONE FOR, UH, BLACK HISTORY LAST YEAR. THE VETERANS AND WOMEN'S MM-HMM . YEAH. YEAH. AND THEN, [01:25:01] UH, LET'S SEE, DO, DO WE HAVE, MAYBE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS, IS LOOK AT IF THERE'S, IF THERE ARE MONTHS THAT ARE ALREADY GENERALLY ASSOCIATED WITH CERTAIN, UM, LIKE I KNOW LIKE OCTOBER IS, OCTOBER IS LIKE RIGHT NOW, UM, UM, DEFENDANT HERITAGE, RIGHT? NO, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK WE DID AN THAT A LOT IS RIGHT. YEAH. YEAH. STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK THERE'S DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. UM, THAT'S OCTOBER. LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY THAT I THINK COME UP AND I THINK LIKE IN THAT SCENARIO WHERE WE WOULD BE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL IF WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO DO ONE AND GET ONE IN, BUT ALSO KNOWING LIKE WHO ELSE WITHIN THE CITY MIGHT NOT LIKE BE THE BEST SPONSOR FOR IT, BUT LIKE IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE KIND OF LIKE, WELL THIS, THIS ONE KIND OF MORE CLOSELY ALIGNS WITH US. UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S LIKE A LIST OR IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF KIND OF LIKE, JUST LIKE 12 MONTHS OF COMMON OR YOUR KIND OF MOST COMMON ONES. UM, OR ONES THAT MIGHT BE MAYBE ALIGNED, ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING. UH, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE. YEAH. AND THEN WE CAN ALREADY HAVE 'EM KIND OF PREPPED AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT LIKE DEADLINES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO GET IN BY A CERTAIN TIME IN ORDER FOR CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE. YEAH. SO, UH, SO CHRISTIE DID SEND OUT, UH, AT SOME POINT, LIKE A LIST OF ALL, NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST. GOT IT. BUT, UH, A PRETTY, PRETTY BIG LIST OF WHAT WE COULD, UH, DO PROCLAMATIONS ON. YES. I CAN ADD IT TO THE GOOGLE DRAFT. DO, DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I'M TALKING ABOUT, ABBY? I DO. AND I SENT YOU AN INVITE TO THE GOOGLE DRIVE, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE, DO I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH ME BEING ON THAT GOOGLE DRIVE OR ANYTHING? WELL, $50. OKAY. TO ME. I WAS GONNA SAY 45 GOING TO ABBY, BUT MY COLLECTION AGENT, BUT IF YOU PAY, YOU WANT ME TO USE YOUR CITY EMAIL? YEAH, YEAH. CITY BUSINESS. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU'RE ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO IT. YEAH, I THINK, YEAH, DEFINITELY THE SUBCOMMITTEE FOR SURE. AND I MAY ALREADY BE, BUT YEAH, YOU, YOU'LL HAVE, YOU'LL DO THAT. AND SO I'M A CITY ME SHARE IT WITH YOU ON THE CITY ACCOUNT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NO, SHARE IT TO MY CITY ACCOUNT. NOT MY GMAIL. NO, IT WON'T LET ME SHARE IT TO YOUR CITY ACCOUNT. IT NEEDS TO BE A GMAIL. OH, JIMBO 13. JBO THIRTEEN@GMAIL.COM. MY INITIALS J-E-N-V-O 13. LIKE I'VE GOT A BAT HIS CAR FOR SURE. . I, THAT MIGHT COUNT. I'M SORRY. YOU GMAIL. I'M SEEING WHAT ELSE WAS IN THERE. YOU BROUGHT UP. YEAH, IT'S STILL THERE. THAT'S STILL THERE. I, THAT'S STILL THERE. MY ASKED , TRAVIS COUNTY SHERIFF ABOUT IT. DO ANY MORE OTHER THAN, UH, BLACK HISTORY MONTH? NO, NO. WE DID A COUPLE OF THEM. VETERANS WOMENS, WE DID TEACHER APPRECIATION. WE DID A COUPLE OF THEM, BUT WAS IT THE COMMISSION? YEAH, THAT DID IT. TEACHER APPRECIATION. YEAH, I KNOW I WROTE AT LEAST, WELL YOU MAY, THAT WAS PRESENTED. THAT WAS, BUT WAS THAT 2025? NO. OR WAS THAT 2026. OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW I DID, I KNOW IF I WAS WORKING WITH BLACK HISTORY. DO WE HAVE ONE SEC? WE DIDN'T DO THE BLACK HISTORY. WAS IT YOU OR BELL? IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BELL THAT DID IT. WE DID IT. I CAN'T REMEMBER. WE THE ANSWER NOW, BUT THAT'D BE A GOOD IDEA. PLACE. MAYBE LINK IT TO THE VA. I KNOW. LAST YEAR IN ARCHIVE IN THE LIBRARY TOO. RIGHT? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY . WE DID ARCHIVE THOSE. . THAT'S IT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. WE, I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WAS COULDN'T ARCHIVE IT. THEY DIDN'T HAVE SPACE. DID YOU? I DID. I DID. UH, I WOULD SAY YOU WROTE DON'T REMEMBER. CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER. RIGHT. WRONG. I HADN'T BEEN THROUGH. OKAY. WHAT I'M MORE, UH, I GUESS CONCERNED ABOUT IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THAT. SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NOT, NOT LET GO. THAT'S HOW WE NEED TO LINE THAT DOWN. WE GOTTA GET, CAN WE HAVE THE, I GUESS LIKE BY THE NEXT ONE THEN CAN GET THE LIST. UM, EITHER THE ONE THAT, [01:30:01] UM, CHRISTIE HAD ALREADY SENT, UM, OR WE CAN JUST GENERATE A NEW LIST. UM, SO BY NEXT ONE WHAT I WILL DO IS I WILL, UM, I'LL HAVE THE SCHEDULE UP DEFINITELY, UH, FOR DISCUSSION OBVIOUSLY. AND THEN I'LL ASSIGN PLACEHOLDER, UH, PROCLAMATIONS THAT EVERYONE'S FREE TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, DO PROCLAMATIONS ON. SO WE DON'T, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY ISSUE THERE. AND I'LL, AND I'LL ALSO ADD A TAB TO HAVE ALL THE LIST, ALL OF THE, THE, THE LIST ITSELF IN THERE SO WE CAN, CAN MOVE FORWARD. BUT, UH, DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING, ANY UPCOMING, UH, PROCLAMATIONS THAT WE WANT TO DO? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY THAT THEY WANT? DO? WE'RE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL NOW BECAUSE YOU HAVE IT. IT'LL HAVE TO BE FOR OCTOBER. YEAH. YEAH. AND I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T, I'M TRYING TO THINK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING UP OR NOT. OCTOBER, MAYBE OUR SECOND IS THURSDAY, OUR SECOND MEETING IN SEPTEMBER? YES. SO IT WILL HAVE BE OCTOBER AND THAT'S FINE. YEAH. I MEAN OCTOBER IS BREAST CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. SUBSTANCE ABUSE, BOTH LITERACY, DHD, AWARENESS, DOWN SYNDROME, AWARENESS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. GOOD ONE. IT'S GLOBAL DIVERSITY. A YEAH. COVER'S LIKE HUGE FOR YEAH. COHORT HAS A BUNCH. YEAH. NO, NO, I WAS, I'LL ALSO ADD THAT PROCLAMATIONS ARE ARCHIVED ON OUR WEBSITE. IF YOU GO TO THE GOVERNMENT TAB AND CLICK RECORDS LIBRARY, THERE'S AN AREA FOR, UM, OH, SO THEY'RE ALREADY POSTED IN THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IT WAS THE, WAS THE DEIB COMMISSION? NO, IT DOESN'T SPONSORED MM-HMM . WELL, UNLESS, LET'S SEE, WHAT'S ONE THAT WE DID A TEACHER APPRECIATION. YEAH. NO, IT DOESN'T. BUT, BUT I KNOW I WROTE THAT ONE. YEAH. OKAY. SO THAT BEING SAID, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING WORKABLE ON NEXT MEETING AND THEN, UH, TAKE IT FROM THERE. AND THEY JUST ACCEPT LIKE ONE EACH MONTH. UH, I THINK THE COUNCIL HAS A LIMIT, RIGHT? IT'S LIKE WE READ, WELL, NOT A HARD LIMIT, BUT YEAH. IT'S NOT A HARD LIMIT. BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE PROCLAMATIONS DURING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND SOME OF 'EM WE HAVE AT LIKE FIVE OR FIVE 30 MM-HMM . SO I THINK THREE MAKES, IT'S NOT A HARD NUMBER, BUT IT'S KINDA LIKE, REALLY CAN'T GET ANY MORE THAN THAT MM-HMM . IN A COUNCIL MEETING. SO WE USUALLY LIMIT THE ONE OR TWO. RIGHT. BUT THREE, IF IT'S A SPECIAL, I MEAN SPECIAL OCCASION STUFF. RIGHT. I WAS JUST WONDERING, THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME MONTHS IT'LL BE LIKE, THIS IS THE BIG THING OF THE MONTH. RIGHT. AND I THINK ONE, ONE OTHER THING, WHAT, WHAT REALLY ADDS IMPACT IS IF WE, UH, YOU KNOW, INVITE AN ORGANIZATION TO DO THE PROCLAMATION THAT ARE IN THAT FIELD OR, UH, SOMETHING, SOMETHING SIMILAR. SO WHEN, UH, I THINK IT WAS A HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH. MM-HMM . LAST YEAR, COMMISSIONER ZEPEDA AT THAT TIME, SHE INVITED, UH, I BELIEVE OLA, I THINK HE INVITED OLA. AND SO WE HAD A HUGE GROUP SHOWING UP TO, YOU KNOW, CELEBRATE THAT, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY COOL. OKAY. SO, UH, SO HE, YOU GET LIKE OCTOBER, UM, BREAST CANCER, RIGHT? YEAH. AND GET A GROUP. WHO DOES? THAT WOULD BE IDEAL. I MEAN, I, I, IF IF IT'S JUST US GOING, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. BUT WE WANNA, UH, USE THAT AS A PLATFORM TOO. CITY GONNA DO SOMETHING OR WEAR PINK? I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. HEY, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO TYPICALLY DO A, UM, BREAST CANCER THING AT COUNCIL MEETINGS. I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE IT EVERY YEAR, BUT I CAN REMEMBER SOMETIME. BUT I GO BACK TO 2012 , BUT I REMEMBER LIKE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, SO I WASN'T AWAKE YET. OR BORN WASN'T ACTIVATED. NO, BUT THAT LIKE, FOR LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WE HAD SISTER GROUPS COMING IN, YOU KNOW, THE CRISIS CENTERS AND THINGS AND THAT CAME, THEY KIND OF ACCEPT AND BE THE AUDIENCE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT ANYBODY'S WILLING TO COME UP THERE AND ACCEPT AND BE PHOTOGRAPHED BY OUR WORLD CLASS LIVING RIBBONS. LITTLE PINK. YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A OUR PINK SHIRT. PINK PANTS. YEAH, WE DO THAT. WE'LL DO IT. . ALRIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON, ON 7.5 I [01:35:01] ON MOVING ON TO 7.6 OPEN DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR OCTOBER 15TH MEETING. SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, 7.10 YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 7.3. UH, IS GOING TO BE A, UH, STANDING STILL THERE. 7.5 DEFINITELY. AND THEN 7.4 AS WELL. THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE THE SAME, UH, SAME AGENDA. IT'S AN ADDED ITEMS POTENTIALLY. THIS FYI OF THE THIRD TUESDAY IS OCTOBER 20TH. OCTOBER 15TH IS A THURSDAY, BUT THE THIRD TUESDAY IS OCTOBER 20TH. IT'S ON MY CALENDAR. SO WE WILL NOT YOU. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE IN MY CALENDAR TOO. SO OPEN DISCUSSION ITEMS FOR OCTOBER 20TH, 2026. WAS I LOOKING AT, UM, REMEMBER LAST YEAR WE HAD TO CHANGE THIS IS THE 15TH. THIS ONE MONTH? YEAH. YEAH. BUT I THINK THEY KIND OF LIKE PIGGYBACK THURSDAY. SO, AND THEN BASED ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE, SUBCOMMITTEE'S DECISION, WE MAY ADD ONE MORE AGENDA ITEM HERE. UH, I ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE SURVEY QUESTIONS FOR NEXT. YES. YES. AND THAT PRESENTATION FROM JEFF? PRESENTATION FROM JEFF, YES. BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW IF HE'S AVAILABLE. RIGHT. SO THAT'S A NO POTENTIAL. YEAH. AND WE WILL BE S SWEARING IN THE ADAMS. YAY. OH, AT THE MEETING? YES. AT THE BEGINNING. WHAT WAS THAT? WE, WE SWEARING HER IN. OH YES. DID THAT NEED TO BE, OH, I GUESS YOU'LL TAKE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN ITEM. DON'T. HEY, DO WE HAVE ANY BUDGET QUESTIONS THAT WE ADD HEARING? UH, NOT YET. NOT YET. NOT UNTIL I, I BELIEVE THE MEETING ISSUES THE PHYSICAL YEAR, I THINK THAT THE PRESENTATION IS DONE AT THIS POINT. I THINK THE BALLS IN THE COUNCIL SUPPORT. I KNOW THAT'S WHEN THEY BRING, BRING IT BACK TO US SO THEY KNOW. ALRIGHT. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? MORE QUESTIONS. BRING NONE. MM-HMM. 7 39. OH YES. SO WHAT DO WE HAVE? SOME ACTION. HUH? ACTION NUMBER? NO. OH, OKAY. SORRY. I, ALL DISCUSSIONS CHECKED THAT. UM, YEAH. SO SEVEN THIRTY NINE CALL THE MEETING ADJOURNED. YEP. ALL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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