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          ALL RIGHT 7:05. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. 
          WE CALL THE MEETING FOR SEPTEMBER 17, 2026 AT 7:00 P.M. 
          TO ORDER. WE WILL CALL ROLL CALL. 
          THE INDICATION FROM LONE STAR BAPTIST CHURCH. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. LET'S PRAY TONIGHT. 
          HEAVENLY FATHER WE THANK YOU FO THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND LIF PRAYER UP TO YOU TONIGHT AND MEET WITH COUNCILMEMBERS AND AL WHO HAVE A APART TONIGHT AND EVEN THOSE WHO MAY COME AND SPEAK AT THE PLATFORM I PRAY YOUR WISDOM BE GRANTED TO ALL THAT ARE HERE WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND GOT THIS AS EACH EVERY DAY THAT WE HAVE AND JUST THE WAY TO BREATHE THE AIR HERE. 
          AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AS A SET-ASIDE AND ALSO TO HAVE AN IMPACT AND I PRAY WE CAN ALL STRIVE TO DO THAT EACH AND EVER DAY THAT WE LIVE. WE MAY ASK THAT YOU BLESS THIS ENTIRE MEETING TONIGHT AND BRIN GLORY AND HONOR TO YOU. 
          IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. >> AND A PLEDGE. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE O THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. 
          NEXT WE HAVE SOME CONFIRMATIONS. FIRST I WANT TO HEAR FROM DEAD 
          [5.2. Hispanic Heritage Month (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion & Belonging Commission)]
DEIB COMMITTEE. PROCLAMATIONS ARE OPEN TO ANYON IN THE PUBLIC. PLEASE COME UP IF YOU WOULD LIK TO. NATIONAL HISPANIC HERITAGE MONT IS SEPTEMBER 15, 2026 AND OCTOBER 2015, 2026 TO HONOR THE HISTORY AND CULTURES AND ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF AMERICANS IN SPAIN AND MEXIC AND CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA. 
          US CENSUS BUREAU ESTIMATE -- WAS AT 46,048. 
          AND REPORTED THAT -- 25.6% OF JEFFERSON COUNTY. 
          WHERE IS THE TEXAS EDUCATION AGENCY REPORTS THAT GREW FROM 8,000 STUDENTS, 2020-2021 TO 11,000 STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL YEAR [INDISCERNIBLE] AS EDUCATORS, STUDENTS, PROFESSIONALS, FIRST RESPONDERS CIVIC LEADERS, ARTISTS, VOLUNTEERS, AND NEIGHBORS HELPING BUILD A MORE PROSPEROUS AND CONNECTED -- WHEREAS IT IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE TEXAS ECONOMY. WITH THE CENSUS BUREAU PURPORTING 65,000 [INDISCERNIBLE] AND THE 2022 [INDISCERNIBLE] 82% OF RESIDENTS WITH AN OPINIO AND 62.2% SAID THEY ARE LIKELY TO PARTICIPATE IN ADVANCE EVENTS . TOGETHER WITH LOCAL 
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CONGREGATIONS AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP, VISIBILITY [INDISCERNIBLE] INVITES ALL THOSE TO HONOR THE PAST [INDISCERNIBLE] HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 17, 2026 AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH AND WANT ALL RESIDENTS TO RECOGNIZE THE HISPANIC AND LATINO COMMUNITY AND PARTICIPAT IN ACTIVITIES. [APPLAUSE] 
          [5.1. National Night Out - October 6th (Tawni Moody)]
NEXT THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PROCLAMATION. 
          THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION SPONSORS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, AN INITIATIVE AGAINST CRIME AND DRUG AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT. 
          ON OCTOBER 6 MAY, 2056, THE CIT AN OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN THE THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITIES NATIONWIDE IN PROVIDING SAFER NEIGHBORHOODS. RESIDENTS PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN THEIR ACTIVE ENROLLED INVOLVEMENT WITH NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND COMMUNIT MEMBERS. 
          WEALTH BUILDING TRUST COME AWARENESS, COOPERATION -- NYS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT MEANS RESIDENTS TOGETHER AT OFFICERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, NEIGHBORS, COMMUNITY LEADERS AND CELEBRATE A SHARED COMMITMENT. THE CITY RECOGNIZE THAT ENGAGED CITIZENS AND STRONG FRIENDSHIPS AND ACTIVE PARTICIPATION ARE ESSENTIAL TO STAY CONNECTED. WE DO HEREBY COMPLAIN OCTOBER -- COME -- OCTOBERS SIX, 236 AS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AND ENCOURAGE ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT. [APPLAUSE] US SELECTED PEOPLE HAVE TO HIT 35 NEIGHBORHOODS IN 2.5 HOURS. 
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WHERE SEPTEMBER IS RECOGNIZED A SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH, TO RAISE AWARENESS AND ENCOURAGE COMMUNITIES TO TAKE ACTION TO PREVENT SUICIDE AND WAY SUICIDE IS A SERIOUS HEALTH CONCERN THA AFFECTS INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIE AND FRIENDS AND COWORKERS REGARDLESS OF AGE AND CIRCUMSTANCE. 
          AND IT BEGINS WITH COMPASSION AND WE RECOGNIZE SOMEONE MAY BE STRUGGLING A NEED TO OFFER SUPPORT AND WHEREAS -- CAN REDUCE STIGMA AND ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS. 
          WHEREAS EVERYONE [INDISCERNIBLE] I BELIEVE THE WARNING SIZE -- SIGNS. FAMILIES, SCHOOLS, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS, FIRST RESPONDERS, AN COMMUNITY LEADERS ARE IMPORTANT FOR YOUR SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT AND WELLNESS. 
          WHEREAS WE HONOR THOSE WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY SUICIDE. REMEMBER THOSE WE'VE LOST AND REAFFIRM OUR COMMITMENT TO CREATE A COMMITTEE AND WHEREAS SUICIDE PREVENTION AWARENESS -- AND HEALING ARE POSSIBLE AND THAT EVERY PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE BY REACHING OUT AND SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER. THERE FOR WE GET THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SEPTEMBER 2026 SUICIDE PREVENTION MONTH. AND THE ROLL OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND IS MARRIED I CALL UPON ALL OF RESIDENTS OF THE GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES AND INSTITUTIONS AND EDUCATIONAL ESTABLISHMENTS TO RECOMMIT [INDISCERNIBLE] TOGETHER WE MUST WORK TO DIMINISH STIGMA, DISCRIMINATION FOR ALL INDIVIDUALS. [APPLAUSE] GOOD EVENING. I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS, TO CONTINUE FIGHTING THE STIGMA WITH SUICIDE . THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL OF THAT. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, I'M THE VICTIM COORDINATOR SERVICES AND I WANTED MY COMMITTEE OUT TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR SUICID PREVENTION. FOR TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH FROM 6:30-8:00 P.M. RIGHT HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 
          WE WILL HAVE THE ACTUAL CEREMON IN THIS CORRIDOR AND THEN THE LOBBY AREA, WE WILL HAVE RESOURCES FOR THE COMMUNITY SO WE HAVE OVER 20 DIFFERENT RESOURCES AND COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT WILL COME OUT AND THEY WIL BE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE RESOURCES SO PLEASE DO COME OUT. THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICAL OFFICIALS AND COUNTY OFFICIALS WILL BE OUT. 
          WE HAVE AN INVESTIGATOR SPEAKING . 
          HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT HIS STORY AND HOW HE HAS WORKED TO BATTLE THROUGH THAT AND SO I HOPE YOU CAN ALL COME OUT AND BRING SOMEONE WITH YOU AND THERE'S BEEN SOME BUSINESSES THAT HAVE DONATED SOME RESOURCES . 
          SOME HAVE SUFFERED LOSS DUE TO SUICIDE. 
          CHANCE WILL BE HERE AS WELL. IT'S A JOINT EFFORT FOR OUR CRISIS SUPPORT SO THAT A MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT AND THAT ALSO SERVICES TO SUPPORT FAMILIES AFTER THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT OF SUICIDE. PLEASE COME TO US IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AND, TALK TO US. 
          THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] 
          >> FOR THOSE THAT ARE NEW TO OU COMMUNITY, WE DO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AN ORGANIZATION , AND I REALLY THINK THE COUNCIL EVERY YEAR. IT IS A PLACE WHERE YOUR CHILDREN CAN GO AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THE STRESSORS. 
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ACTIVITIES ARE REALLY ABOUT THE KIDS. 
          THEY ARE THERE TO SERVE AND WE CONTINUE TO FUND THE PROGRAMS. 
          THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. >> THAT WAS GOOD. 
          AGAIN, WE ARE NONPROFIT TEAM CENTER IN WILLIAMSON COUNTY. 
          YOUR ONLY REQUIREMENT IS -- RIGHT NOW WE PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION FOR STUDENTS BUT WE ALSO HAVE STUDENTS THAT -- ANYONE IS WELCOME. WE ARE SAFE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND BE THEMSELVES. HELP WE STARTED WITH MADELINE HAD ORIGINALLY ORIGINALLY COMMITTED SUICIDE AND SHE WAS A SOPHOMORE IN HIGH SCHOOL. SOMEONE WAS NOT KIND. 
          UNFORTUNATELY SOMEONE DIDN'T SPEAK UP AND IT OPENED UP A SAF PLACE FOR KIDS CAN COME AND BE THEMSELVES AND HAVE THE MENTORS AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR  PEERS. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS AND RESOURCES. 
          BUT WE DO HAVE GUEST SPEAKERS THAT COME AND TALK ABOUT SUICID PREVENTION AND FENTANYL AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE WAN TO MAKE SURE THAT PEERS HAVE TH TOOLS AND RESOURCES AND IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION, YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME. 
          [APPLAUSE] >> I JUST WANT TO SPEAK FOR MY WIFE. THIS IS THE 15TH YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF LOSING MY SISTER-IN-LAW TO SUICIDE. 
          SO THERE'S A REASON WHY SHE IS HERE. 
          THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          [6. PUBLIC COMMENT]
WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          IF YOU SEE THE FLY, I WILL HAVE TO STOP YOU. 
          FIRST UP WE HAVE. GORDON. 
          >> HEY, EVERYBODY. AT ROBIN SUTTON GAVE ME SOME ADDITIONAL TIME WE TAGTEAM THIS A LITTLE BIT. 
          SHE FELT ONE OUT IN THE SHOULD BE UP THERE. 
          >> THERE IS ONE FOR HER. I CAN SEE ONE FOR YOU. 
          >> I FILLED ONE OUT. IT WAS ON THE- 
          >> I'VE GOT ROBIN GAVE ME A TIM FOR THE SUBSEQUENT -- SESQUICENTENNIAL PATENT ROBIN GAVE ME AT TIME. 
          >> THOSE ARE MINE. SHE FILLED OUT ONE AND I FILLED OUT ONE. MAY BE I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING. I APOLOGIZE BIT BUT ANYWAY COME IN HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE 150 TH AND GET AN UPDATE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS A COMMITTEE AND WHERE WE ARE AT. 
          OF THE FIRST AND WANTED TO DO WAS SHOW OFF ONE OF THE FIRST PRODUCTS ON THE COMEDIAN IF YOU NOTICE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE CHAMBERS HERE, THE COMMITTEE RANGE FOR ANY CREATED THESE HISTORICAL BANNERS WHICH COVER HISTORY FROM PREHISTORY ALL THE WAY THROUGH CIRCA 1950 IN SOUTH HISTORY SUBCOMMITTEE DID ALL TH RESEARCH AND ALL THE WORK AND THEN THEY WERE CREATED IN PRINT BY OUR VERY OWN IDEAS HERE. WHO ARE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT . THEY WILL BE ON DISPLAY TONIGHT. 
          AND THEY WILL BE ON DISPLAY KIN OF A ROTATING DISPLAY. 
          THEY BOTH BE ON DISPLAY THERE FOR A FEW WEEKS AND WE ARE 
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LOOKING FOR BUSINESSES WHO WOUL LIKE TO SEE THEM. 
          SO THE CITY CAN USE IT FOR AS LONG AS YOU WANT SO WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR EVERY ONE THAT PUT ALL THE EFFORT INTO THAT. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE WORKING ON IS THAT COMMITTEE IS WORKING ON AN ESSA CONTEST TO HAVE THE STUDENTS DO SOME ESSAYS AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE PRIZES THAT ARE AWARDS OR WHATEVER. 
          AND THE COMMITTEE IS WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DAYTIME BUSINESSES ASSOCIATION WITH THE HUTTO FOUNDATION AND THE ROTARY CLUB TO CREATE SOME HISTORICAL MARKERS THAT WILL BE ON DISPLAY AND WERE GOING TO START FIRST FOUR AND HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF 20 SITES THAT WILL BE AROUND TOWN WERE GOING TO DO THE FIRST FOUR AND SOME WILL BE DOWNTOWN AT THE OLD ORIGINAL SCHOOL SITE. 
          SO WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THOSE UP AND THOSE SHOULD BE UP BEFOR THE NOVEMBER EVENT. WE'VE DESIGNED A COLORING BOOK AND ARE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY IMPACT AT LOW COST AN SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM TWO TO D SOMETHING SO WE WILL GET THE COLORING BOOK. AND WERE ALSO DOING A LIVING HISTORY THAT WILL BE HELD HERE ON OCTOBER 7, 2024 ON THE 21ST . AND SO IT WILL BE INDIVIDUAL FROM THE COMMUNITY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY AND MAY B SOME POTENTIAL FIELD TRIPS AS RELATED TO HISTORY. 
          OF WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. 
          I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AT FUNDRAISING SEL YOU MAY REMEMBER BACK IN MAY TH CITY COUNCIL SAID WE WILL MATCH YOU DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, WHATEVER YOU CAN RAISE UP TO 20,000 AND SO WE HAVE EXCEEDED OUR 20,000 GOAL SO I THINK -- 
          >> ARE ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR THAT. 
          [APPLAUSE] >> THE COMMITTEE HAS RAISED AT 26, 27,000 AND SO WE ARE STILL LOWER THAN WHAT WE WANTED. 
          WE ARE CUTTING BACK AND KIND OF HUNTING BACK ON SOME OF WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. AND WE CUT BACK ON SOME OF THE THINGS, WE'VE GOT THREE BANDS LINED UP TO PLAY AND SO IT WILL BE MORE LOCAL. WE ARE PRETTY EXCITED WITH ALL THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE 150TH COMMITTEE IS DOING. 
          WE ARE STILL FUNDRAISING. CAN WE KNOW THAT PORTION OF THE CITY -- SO WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THAT. 
          WERE REALLY EXCITED FOR ALL THI STUFF. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ROBIN IS HERE. >> I AM SUPER EXCITED TO BE PAR OF THE COMMITTEE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POINTING ME TO THAT COMMITTEE FOR HISTORY BECAUSE THAT WAS MY PASSION THAT THEY THEY ARE BLOCKED INTO THESE CHAMBERS. 
          I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WHAT HA BEEN PUT TOGETHER ALREADY IS AMAZING WHAT WERE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER IS GOING TO BE EVEN BETTER. WE NEED ONE MORE SLOT FOR THE BLOCKING HISTORY AND IF THERE'S SOMEBODY IN HUTTO THAT HAS HISTORY THAT WOULD WOULD LIKE T REACH OUT AND DO ONE OF THOSE SHOTS THAT WE WILL HAVE HERE IN THE LIBRARY, I WOULD BE DISMISSED TO LEAVE HERE WITHOUT SAYING CONDOLENCES TO A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY, OUR HUTTO COMMUNITY. 
          EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T KNOW HER WITH A FOUL, I KNEW HER FAMILY IS SUFFERING THIS WEEK. AND I PRAY FOR THE FAMILY OF 
          SANDY. >> THANK YOU. 
          >> COULD YOU SAY FOR THE RECORD WHERE FOR DISSENT OR HOW TO DONATE BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT TAKING DONATIONS BUT NOT HOW TO 
          DELIVER THE MONEY. >> THEY CAN CONTACT THE SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IS WORKING ON THAT IS MYSELF AND THE FORMER COUNCILMEMBER. CONTACT EITHER ONE OF THEM. 
          THEY -- I THINK WOULD BE OKAY TO CONTAC CITY HALL AND PASS IT THROUGH US . 
          IF THEY COULD JUST CALL CITY HALL AND LET THEM KNOW. 
          WE COULD KIND OF WORKOUT. WE'VE GOT THE DIFFERENT FUNDRAISING. I THINK THAT IS WHAT THEY GET. 
          THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> YOU ARE ONE TO SPEAK ON. 
          [7.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.]
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          >> NEXT WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS COMMISSIONS, TASKFORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS, AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, AND EVERY GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS -- 
          AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. >> I AM ON THAT SUBCOMMITTEE HAVE NOT MET BUT I DID GO MONDA OR TUESDAY TO A MEETING I THINK IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING AND THEY CAN STILL HAVE WORK TO DO. 
          >> DO YOU WANT TO APPOINT SOMEBODY. 
          [7.1. Capital Area Council of Governments General Assembly - 2 positions for appointment.]
          >> IT HAPPENS. CAPITAL AREA COUNCIL GENERALLY ASSEMBLY, TO MAKE POSITIONS FOR APPOINTMENT. 
          I THINK THE MAXIMUM IS TWO, RIGHT? I BELIEVE MY DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE. 
          I SENT JIM MORRIS TO THIS ONCE. WAS THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ON 
          APRIL 2, BY RESOLUTION. >> I GUESS WE CAN REMOVE GM BUT WE HAVE HIM ON THEIR. AS I GUESS WE CAN ADD A SECOND 
          PERSON. >> IT IS AN OPTION. 
          BUT THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS THAT ON THE LEGAL MEMORANDUM FROM THIS WAS ON JUN CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE TH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WAS ALREADY ON A CAT COG, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE LEGAL OPINION WAS IF THERE IS A PROBLEM ATTENDING ANY THINK ABOUT BUT THEY COULD NOT -- BECAUSE THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND THEY WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO COME IN AT TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THESE DISCUSSIONS AND VOTING AS A COUNCILMEMBER. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT AFFILIATION, IT IS NO LONGER THERE BEING A PRINCIPAL TO A COMPANY, ITS ARGUMENT CHANGED I CAT COG AS THEY'RE THERE ALREAD REPRESENTING THE CITY YEARS AGO. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ONLY A RESOLUTION AND A VOTE ON THE COUNCIL COUNCIL, SHARING UP THAT INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY WHERE NAMES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE PUT ON IT, REPRESENTING A CITY. SO I AM A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. SO THIS WAS DONE BY -- 
          >> WHO IS ON CAT COG? I AM THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY REPRESENTATIVE AND THE ENVIRONMENT QUALITY. 
          AND COUNCILOR ZEPEDA WAS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND NOW YO LOOK AT CAP COG AND SHE'S NOW O THAT DEVELOPMENT AS A CITY OF 
          HUTTO DEVELOPMENT. >> I DON'T KNOW EITHER. 
          I WAS ORIGINALLY ON THEIR AS A REPRESENTATIVE AND I WAS THERE AS MYSELF AND MY OWN FIRM AND I THE OF WHAT WAS CHANGED MAY SEE THAT THE STATE HAS SUBMITTED THAT CHANGE BUT NOBODY EVER 
          ASKED ME OR CLEARED IT WITH ME. >> THIS IS THIS MEMORANDUM WAS STATED BY OUR CITY ATTORNEYS SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL 
          CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR NOT. >> THERE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY AN ERROR IN PUTTING A COUNCILWOMAN ON THE COMMITTEE WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE CITY WITHOUT THE CITY SUBMITTING A RESOLUTION. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS WE SHOULD ALWAYS DO A FIVE RESOLUTION SO IT IS CLEAR AND W SEND IT OVER TO THEM BUT IT IS NOT JUST A LETTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          >> AND THAT WAS DONE IN SEPTEMBER OR APRIL THIS YEAR. 
          SO I WAS JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. 
          THERE'S LIKE SEVEN DIVISIONS AN I'VE BEEN ATTENDING AND I NEED TO GO DOWN THERE SO IT IS 20 BUCKS AND TWO HOURS.  I WILL BE 
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HONEST WITH YOU, THERE'S ALSO THINGS THAT YOU CAN LOOK UP THA ARE ALREADY THERE. MOST OF IT IS ADMINISTRATIVE 
          STAFF. >> MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO CHOOSE TWO PERSONS IN THAT WE WILL HAVE A CONSENT RESOLUTION FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND YOU CA SEND IT OVER TO THEM. 
          MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER OR SECRETARY CAN NOTIFY THEM OF TH ERROR THAT THEY MADE. ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT 
          COMMITTEE. >> WE'VE GOT I CAP COG PRESENTATION AND I ASKED WHERE IT DOESN'T EVEN COME FROM. 
          WE DON'T EAT USUALLY GET THESE. SO I ASKED TO SEND IT OUT. 
          WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE ARE OUT WHAT HAT WE ARE WEARING EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT HAT BECAUS IT COULD BE A CONFLICT FOR SERVING AND PARTICIPATING AND THEN SOMEHOW YOU GET ON THERE AND YOU GET THIS INFORMATION AN IT GIVES THE PARENTS POTENTIALL THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED IN CAT CO AS A COUNCILMEMBER AND THEN THE STAFF SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL AN THINGS START GOING OFF, IN MY MIND. I CAN'T REMEMBER SOME OF THIS STUFF. SO I THINK IT IS A WARNING FOR EVERYBODY OUT THAT THAT IS NEW. YOU GOTTA BE CAREFUL THAT YOU DON'T RUN INTO THE MIRROR OF ANOTHER CITY AND YOU START GOIN TO STATE THINGS. YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THEY DON'T ALL OF A SUDDEN MAKE AN ASSUMPTION IN THE NEXT THING YO KNOW YOU'VE GOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE ALL THIS IS 
          GOING ON. >> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME I CAME U WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE ASKING ABOUT ATTENDANCE SO I PUT AN E-MAIL, JUST SO YOU KNOW THAT WAS ME LETTING THE CITY KNOW. AT LEAST THE NEXT TIME I WENT T A MEETING, I ASSUME BECAUSE I SUBMITTED THAT TO THE CITY THAT THAT IS WHY THAT COMMUNICATION HAPPENED. 
          >> FOR THIS ACTION TONIGHT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT APPOINTING TWO MEMBERS AND WE WILL BRING IT BACK TO BE ABLE TO SEND OVER 
          THERE SO IT IS CLEAR. >> SO COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA HAS THING ABOUT A CONFLICT, SIX PEOPLE. 
          YOU STILL WANT TO DO AT? >> I HAVE PLENTY OF TIME. 
          I'M NOT TOO BUSY. WE NEED SOMEBODY, I WILL DO IT. 
          SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE STAFF PREPARE OF RESOLUTIO REAPPOINTING COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS AND COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS TO THAT CAP COG GENERA ASSEMBLY AND THAT MAY COME UP DURING THAT. SECOND? 
          >> SECOND. >> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. 
          [7.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City]
NEXT WEEK HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES. 
          WE HAVE NOT MET. 'S FIRE SAFETY I HEARD THAT THE COULD MEET MONDAY AFTERNOON AND SO WE DID MEET MONDAY, 5:00, I BELIEVE. GROUP WENT OVER THE PROPOSALS THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED IN COMMUNICATION, THEY TOOK THE PROPOSALS OPTION ONE, TWO, THREE . 
          WE PUT THAT IN THE LATTER LETTE AND IT WAS CONFUSING IN THE CONVERSATIONS, PLEADING FOR SOM NEGOTIATION AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR ARE CITY ATTORNEY BROUGHT WITH THE ISSUES , TO TERMINATE THE CONTRACT WITHOUT A DAYS NOTICE. 
          AND THEY DID NOT SEE IT THAT WA I BELIEVE THE PORTING WAS WE DON'T SEE IT IS A PROBLEM SO IT SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM AND WE ARE PLEADING WITH THEM. OUR ATTORNEY SAYS IT IS IN THEI ATTORNEY SAYS THAT IS NOT. CAN WE ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT OF 
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LANGUAGE TO MAKE IT A GOOD REASON FOR THAT. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE REASONING FOR THIS AND WE INVEST TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE CAN'T ALWAYS NAME THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT OUT OF THE GET -- GATE. IT WAS NEW INFORMATION AND WE ARE LIKE WE'VE BEEN TELLING YOU ABOUT COTTON BLOOD AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS AND THEN THE BIGGEST CONCERN THAT HAD COME OUT OF THAT FOR ME ANYWAY WAS THEIR IDEA OF HOW, THEY SAID YO CAN ALWAYS ADD IN FOR DEVELOPMENT ANY AGREEMENTS AND THEIR IDEA WOULD BE WOULD WE WOULD AGREE SHOULD -- NEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT. WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AND GET THEM TO SIGN IT AND WE WOULD ALL SIGN AND GIVE IT TO THEM. THEY WOULD REVIEW IT AND VOTE O IT. AND WE KIND OF WENT BACK A LITTLE BIT AND THAT IS NOT HOW IT HAS EVER BEEN DONE AND WE KEEP SAYING THE ISSUE AS THEY USE THE POWER AND THEY COULD US THE POWER AGAINST US AND HOW DO WE NEGOTIATE THIS. 
          WE WERE THEN GIVEN AN AGREEMENT AND WAIT TO HEAR. 
          THERE'S MECHANISMS FOR THAT AND THE COUNTY APPROVED LIKE PROJEC MOVE THAT PRIOR TO BLUE HUB AGREEMENT ON THE DEAL. 
          AND KIND OF HAD AN IMPASSE ON SOME OF THESE. 
          I'M AT A LOSS OF WORDS BECAUSE HENRY HAD MULTIPLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPING GROUPS. ANY UPDATE. 
          >> I AGREE WITH THAT. THE THING THAT SURPRISED ME AS IT SEEMS LIKE THE ESD WANTS TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BEFORE WE EVEN SIGNED A LETTER OF ANYTHING WITH THESE DEVELOPERS AND THEY WANT TO BE AT THE TABLE AND THEY PLAN TO B PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS AND THEY KEEP SAYING THEY DON'T WAN TO BE IN THAT DEVELOPMENT BUT I THE CURRENT AGREEMENT, THEY STIPULATE HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT , WHERE THE MONEY IS SPENT HAS TO BE SPENT IN THAT NEW ANNEX AREA COME AT THE CHAIR ES CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF THE CONTRACT. 
          WHATEVER WE ANNEX, LET'S SAY WE'VE ALREADY DONE ALL THE WAST WATER LINES IN IT WE SPENT TOO $2 MILLION AND ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S THEY. SO UP ARE GOING TO DO IS JUST A SMALL CONNECT. SWIFTLY ANNEX THAT, ALL THE MONEY THAT WE GET, WE ARE IN THAT ANNEX AREA AND EVEN THOUGH WE ALREADY SPENT ALL THE MONEY. SO THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          SO THEY ARE HANDCUFFING THE CIT INTO SAYING YOU HAVE TO USE THI MONEY THIS WAY WERE GOING TO TELL YOU WHERE YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY. THE OTHER ASPECT IS AS THE MAYO WAS ALLUDING TO, THEY WANT TO B IN THIS PROCESS FROM DAY ONE. 
          WE ARE TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, THE RAILROAD, THE DEVELOPER, AN WHATEVER IS CONSTRUCTION. IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, LONGER AND MORE DIFFICULT . 
          BUT THE COST WILL INCREASE BY DOING IT SIX MONTHS AND IT IS THE WORST CASE. I JUST THOUGHT THE WHOLE CALLIN OF THE MEETING FOR SUCH THAT MY OPINION IS THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH US BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT THIS IS TOO CONSTRICTIVE, ALTHOUGH WE WANTE TO BE MORE OPEN TO WHERE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAN DO THEIR THING AND THE CITY OF HUTTO CAN DO THEIR THING COUPLE WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS 
          . >> I THINK YOU GOT IT. 
          WE DID ASK THE ABILITY TO BRING TO THE VOTERS -- WE THOUGHT WAS NECESSARY TO BRING IT TO THE VOTERS, THE PEOPLE OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE WANTING TO REEVALUATE THE DECISION FROM TEN YEARS AGO, AN I THINK 159 PEOPLE VOTED FOR. 
          WE KEEP TELLING THAT 159 PEOPLE ABOUT TEN OR SO YEARS AGO IS NO MAKING 35,000 PEOPLE BEHOLDEN T THINGS AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET THAT AS CALL AND ELECTION, THE COUNTY CALL AN ELECTION OR PEAK 5% IN THE DISTRICT. SO WE'VE ASKED THE COUNTY IN TH COUNTY COMMISSIONER SAID HE IS NOT INVESTED IN TAKING THAT UP AND SO THE ONLY ACTION MOPPED I TO HAVE A PETITION SIGNED AND W 
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KNOW HOW HARD IT IS BIG YOU GET 10% OF THE VOTERS AND 5% WOULD BE EASIER. WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE FIRE SAFETY UPDATES. THEY SAID NO, NO, NO. 
          AND NOTHING WAS NEGOTIABLE. AND SO WE SAID NO. 
          THAT IS THAT. I DID TALK TO COUNCILMEMBER KIN AND HERE IS WHAT COME A LITTLE CLARIFICATION, WHAT I ENVISION. 
          RIGHT NOW STAFF JUST KIND OF COME IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION WE HAD DURING THE BUDGET, WE WENT THROUGH THIS SEND THIS ON THIS AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THESE PROJECTS AND WERE GOING TO CUT SOME STUFF OU AND REALLOCATE SOME MONEY. 
          I WOULD LIKE IN THE FUTURE FOR STAFF TO BE MEETING WITH YOU AL TO BE LOOKING AT CAN THIS PROJECT BE MOVED AND YOU CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON AT THIS POINT. 
          YOU ARE ON IT. TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, YOU GUYS WORK IT OUT AND YOU GUYS BRING IT TO US AND GIVE US A CLEAR THING BECAUSE THEY DID A GREAT JOB BUT REALLY WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE, AND I THINK YOU AGREE WITH ME COME AS YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE STAFF TELLING US WHAT THEY THINK IT SHOULD BE AS TELLING STAFF WITH THE INFORMATION THE STAFF HAS, HERE IS WHAT WE THINK SO STAFF HAS INFORMATION AND I THINK THERE WAS A DISADVANTAGE FOR THEM TO GO MAY BE OUT OF HERE AND MAYBE I DON'T. AND SO YOU GUYS WORKING WITH THEM, YOU GET A GENERAL UNDERSTANDING AND WE DO THAT QUARTERLY AS PROJECTS COME AND GO, GET BEHIND AND GET OUR UPDATES FROM ENGINEERING. THEN YOU GUYS CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MOVE THE PROJECT AT ONE END. 
          DOES THAT WORK? >> THE SCHEDULE IS PRETTY LAX FROM SEPTEMBER TO DECEMBER SO MAYBE THERE IS NOT AS MUCH OVERSIGHT THERE. DO KNOW THIS BUDGET STUFF IS NO REALLY JUNE AND JULY AND AUGUST. SO I THINK THERE IS ALSO PROBABLY OUT OF TEN THAT'S 12 WEEKS, THE PNC WORKS DILIGENTLY EIGHT MEETINGS AND PROBABLY 12 WEEKS AND SO I WOULD THINK THAT IS THE TIME WHEN THE BOARD, SUBCOMMITTEE COULD HAVE A MEMBE THERE SO I TRY TO ATTEND ALL OF THOSE MYSELF AND I HAVE THREE PEOPLE NOW AND THEN WE CAN BE MORE RESPONSIVE, BUT ALSO BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON THESE BIWEEKLY CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
          OF US JUST ONE THING THAT I THOUGHT ABOUT. 
          I THINK PRETTY MUCH MOST OF THE BUDGET IS CAP AND OUR NUMBER ON THING HERE IS QUALITY OF LIFE. SO I THINK THE EARLIER THEY GET INVOLVED IN THIS ON THE BUDGET PROCESS, MAYBE THEY CAN MOVE IT UP ANOTHER BIT MORE AND THE GETTING CITY COUNCIL INVOLVED. 
          YOU HAVE TEN OUT OF 12 WEEKS. AND I APPLAUD THEM FOR WHAT THE 
          DO. >> DIB, IF YOU GUYS HAD A CHANC 
          TO MEET? >> I DID ATTEND THE COMMISSION MEETING ON TUESDAY AND I THINK OVERALL IT WAS A PRODUCTIVE MEETING. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOT CAUGHT UP WAS THE NAME CHANGE. 
          AND I INDIVIDUAL AS LUCK COUNCILMEMBER THEM ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND I AGREE THAT THE COMMISSION SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING A NAME CHANGE, LEAST HAPPY INPUTS AND MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS THEMSELVES. 
          SO I THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED AND WE NEED TO INCLUDE THOSE INPUTS THAT WE CA ALSO KNOW WHAT THE NAME CHANGES THAT I'VE TALKED TO RESOURCES AND CONSULTANTS UNDER DIB IN TH NAME CHANGE ISN'T THE A BIG DEA AS FAR AS IS THE WORK BEING DON AND THE OTHER THING TO GET OUT OF THIS IS LOOKING AT DE-ESCALATING THE SOCIAL MEDIA DIVISION THAT'S BEING PROPAGATE OUT THERE AND KIND OF TAMP DOWN ON THE FALSE NARRATIVES ABOUT THE SUBCOMMITTEE MISSION AND I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE IS DEFINING IT. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CODIFY WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS SUBDIVISION TO ME PART OF THE 
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SUBCOMMITTEE IS FACT-FINDING, UNDERSTANDING -- THE COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE SUBCOMMITTEE IN PUBLIC, THEY AL UNDERSTAND WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND THOSE GOALS ARE GOING TO CHANGE. 
          THEY CAN'T COME IN BEFORE THE FACT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW . 
          SO THE OTHER THING IS THEY HAVE ASKED FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO MEET WITH THEM ON THE NEXT MEETING AND SAY I WILL BE THERE AND THEN UNITY, IT STARTS AT TH COMMISSION. 
          WE FOUGHT IT OUT AND AROUND INCLUSION AND MAKE PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE INCLUDED. WE HAVE UNITY ON THIS COMMISSION . UNASSIGNED COMMISSION MEMBERS AREN'T UNIFIED. I'M TALKING ABOUT CITY COUNCIL, THE ORDINANCE, THE CITY'S STRATEGIC PLAN, THE DIB STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE WEBSITE AS FAR AS PURPOSE AND GOALS AND MISSIONS. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE IN ALIGNMENT. I'M NOT SAYING THEY AREN'T BUT PURSLEY ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE COME , IF WE DON'T WANT ANY -- WHERE IT IS AMBIGUOUS OR VAGUE ARE NOT CLEAR AND SO MY GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THESE ALL LINE UP. I'M NOT SAYING EVERY THINK DOESN'T ALIGN BUT TO GO OUT AND DE-ESCALATE THINGS AND PROVIDE SOLUTION, A RECOMMENDED SOLUTIO TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND I FEEL THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAG AND THE SAME FOUNDATION TO COME TO THE TABLE OPEN TO NEGOTIATIONS WILLING AND TRUTHFUL AND READY TWO AND ACTUALLY DID COMMIT. 
          IT WILL ALL WORK OUT. >> I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD MEETING AND I THINK I'M LOOKING FOR DAVID TO HAVING A SUBCOMMITTEE 
          MEETING ON OCTOBER 20. >> YOU JUST GOT THE BALL. 
          >> WERE PROBABLY GOING TO CHANG THAT DIB. 
          >> THAT REQUIRES AN ORDINANCE. >> THAT IS COMING UP. 
          >> SO DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE ORDINANCE BEFORE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CHANGE TO THE WHOLE THING OF 
          WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO WAIT? >> TO CHANGE IT ON THIS AGENDA. 
          >> TO CHANGE THIS YOU DO NOT NEED AN ORDINANCE. 
          >> OKAY. >> AND YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO 
          MEET 10-20. >> YES. 
          WERE GOING TO MEET ALONG WITH THE DIB. 
          >> I COMMITTED TO THAT MYSELF. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          [8.1. Conduct a public hearing and consider possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-181 to create the Public Improvement District for Hutto Gateway (Legal).]
          >> WERE GOING TO GO ON TWO ITEM 8.1, CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-181 TO CREATE THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT FOR HUTTO GATEWAY. 
          >> ARE YOU GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          >> DO YOU WANT ME TO OPEN IT UP FIRST? 
          >> SO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING 7:54 IF ANYBODY WANTS T 
          COME UP AND SPEAK NOW. >> WE HAVE OUR BOND COUNCIL HERE 
          . >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOU STANDING IN LINE. THE PEOPLE LOVE TO PITCH. 
          >> I AM BART AND MY -- IS MY PLEASURE TO SERVE THE CIT BOND COUNCIL. I BELIEVE I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE DETAILS ABOUT IT. THIS TO BE OPEN TO PUBLIC HEARING AND I BELIEVE ACTION WILL BE POSSIBLE LATER. 
          >> CORRECT. COUNCIL RECEIVED THUD DEVELOPER COMMENT LETTER AND WE CAN CREAT THE LID AND SAUL STATE LAW REQUIRES A MOTION TO ADJOURN TH HEARING TO A CERTAIN DATE AND W WERE ASKED COUNCIL TO CONSIDER MOTION TO ADJOURN THE HEARING T NOVEMBER 19 AND THAT WOULD ALLO US TO GET THE 61 DAY NOTICE TO THE COUNTY BECAUSE THERE'S THRE COUNTY ROADS INVOLVED IN THIS AND ALSO NOTICE TO THE OTHER ENTITIES THAT ARE REQUIRING NOTICE SO WE WOULD COMPLETE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THE 
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ZONING OF THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT COMPLETION 
          LETTER THAT COUNCIL RECEIVES. >> YOU NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN. 
          >> SO MOVED. >> YOU DIDN'T KNOW WAS GOING TO BE THAT EASY, DID YOU. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> NEXT WE HAVE ITEM EIGHT-POIN TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O-2026-046 AMENDING CHAPTER 18, ARTICLE 18.02 P-LETTER INSPECTED YOU 
          CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. >> NOW. 
          >> NEVERMIND, NEVERMIND. >> THAT'S ALRIGHT. 
          [8.2. Conduct a public hearing and consider possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-046 amending Chapter 18, Article 18.02, Division 2, of the Code of Ordinances, AfterSchool Recreation Program Standards of Care; adopting standards of care for the City's recreation programs for elementary-age children; and providing for: Findings of Fact, Enactment, Repealer, Severability, Effective Date, and Proper Notice & Meeting. (JeffWhite)]
          >> I SAW IT OPEN AND SAW NO CLOSE. 
          >> -- CHAPTER 18, ARTICLE 18.02, DIVISION TO MAKE UP THE CODE OF ORDINANCES COME AFTER SCHOOL RECREATION PROGRAM STANDARDS OF CARE, ADOPTING STANDARDS OF CAR FOR THE CITY'S RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR ELEMENTARY AGE CHILDREN, AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS OF FACT, ENACTMENT, REPEAL OR, SEVERABILITY, EFFECTIVE DATE, AND PROPER 
          NOTICE AND MEETING. >> HOW ARE YOU. 
          THE ONE OPENED UP OUR PUBLIC HEARING NOW? 
          >> THIS IS JUST A QUICK RECAP PICKED THIS IS REQUIRED FROM TH HUMAN RESOURCES CODE THIS IS THEIR ANNUAL ADOPTION OF THOSE STANDARDS FOR THE CITY MUST ADOPT THESE STANDARDS AND STAFF QUALIFICATIONS AND HEALTH AND SAFETY STANDARDS FOR MONITORING ENFORCEMENT AND RECOGNIZE THAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE NOT LICENSED THROUGH THE STATE. ARE STAFF ROLES, WE HAVE 35 COUNSELORS AND FOUR CAMP DIRECTORS AND THE TRAINING THEY GET IS CPR, FIRST DAY BECOME CHILD ABUSE, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, AND MENTAL HEALTH DEVELOPMENT AWARENESS CLASSES. 
          IN 2026 WE HAD 1200 PARTICIPANT AT A BROAD 182 ON THE WAITING LIST AND THERE'S NO STANDARD OF CARE VIOLATIONS IN (202)510-2026 . THIS IS SOME OF THEIR SURVEY RESULTS FROM THE PARTICIPANTS AFTER EACH WEEK. 
          THERAPIST E-MAILED E-MAIL THE SURVEY TO PARTICIPATE. 
          THERE IS NO CHANGES FROM THE CURRENT STANDARDS ON THE 12TH 
          AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. >> I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER AN 
          QUESTIONS. >> PEOPLE OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE TH PUBLIC HEARING FOR ACTION BY COUNCIL. 
          >> SECOND. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION. 
          HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          [9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS]
NEXT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 9.1 TO 9.7. 
          >> I WANT TO PULL 9.6. >> 9.6. 
          I HAVE 9.2 DOWN. ANY OTHER ONES? MOTION FOR 9.1, 9.3, 9.7, 9.9. WE HAVE A SECOND? COUNCILMEMBER KING, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          [9.2. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-049 authorizing the notice and publication of the Joint Public Hearing of the Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council to be held on October 15, 2026 at 7:00 p.m. to consider recommendations and possible action upon an ordinance repealing and replacing Article 16.02 of the Hutto City Code, the Unified Development Code of the City of Hutto, Texas. (Howard Koontz)]
NEXT WE HAVE ITEM NINE-POINT TO COME IN CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 0-2026-049. 
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AUTHORIZING THE NOTICE AND PUBLICATION OF THE JOINT PUBLIC HEARING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL TO BE HELD ON OCTOBER 15 , 2026 AT 7:00 P.M. TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS ON POSSIBLE ACTION UPON AN ORDINANCE REPEALING AND REPLACING ARTICLE 16.02 OF THES HUTTO CITY CODE, THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS. ARE WE RESETTING THIS? HOW WHY ARE WE RESETTING IT? BEST GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. 
          I'M THE SERVICES DIRECTOR. WE DID SET THIS FOR THIS EVENING , IN FACT PAID IT WAS FOR SEPTEMBER 17. 
          THE ADVERTISEMENT DID NOT RUN I THE PAPER PROPERLY SO WE HAVE T RESET THIS SO WE CAN GET THE ADVERTISEMENT IN THE PAPER. 
          >> OKAY. I WILL LET YOU PUT THAT IN THEIR 
          . >> EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE THE SAME. WE JUST WANT TO PRINT THIS IN 
          THE TAYLOR PRESS. >>  WE'RE GOING TO GET THIS DON 
          THIS YEAR. >> IT'S ALREADY GONE OVER FOR 
          PUBLICATION. >> THIS IS GOING OFF OFF MY HEAD . THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE ME OUT. 
          >> WE ALREADY GOT THE NOTICE IN. >> I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE 
          APPROVE. >> SECOND. 
          >> ANY DISCUSSION? >> HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL TH BOAT. 
          [9.6. Consider resolutions to submit to the TML Annual conference relating to allowing mixed beverage sales taxes to be included in Municipal Utility District Strategic Partnership Agreements; Amendments to Local Option Liquor state law to allow a city to call a Local Option Liquor Election; and beneficial amendments to state law relating to emergency services districts. (Legal)]
          >> THAT MOTION -- THAT BRINGS UP ITEM NINE POINTS THAT COME CONSIDERABLE SOLUTION TO SUBMIT THE TML ANNUAL CONFERENCE RELATING TO ALLOWING MIXED BEVERAGE SALES TO BE INCLUDED IN MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS, AMENDMENTS TO GLUE LOCAL OPTION PUBLIC OR STATE LA TO ALLOW A CITY TO CALL ALL LOCAL AGREEMENTS -- TWO LOCAL OPTION LIQUOR ELECTIO AND BENEFICIAL AMENDMENTS TO STATE LAW RELATING TO EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT. 
          >> I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THESE RESOLUTIONS IN THES ACTIONS ARE FILTHY IMPORTANT AN I THINK IT IS GOOD TO GO OVER I WE CUT BUT THOSE RESOLUTIONS AR GOING TO BE IN A PUBLIC SPACE AND BRING THEM OUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE SOME WORK THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME WORK TO GET 
          THE SIGNATURES THAT WE NEED. >> IT IS SUCH A CRITICAL ISSUE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE SUBMITTING AND IT COULD BE 
          CONSEQUENTIAL FOR US KIDS. >> OF RESOLUTIONS THAT WE ARE 
          SUBMITTING. >> THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING T DO WITH HIRING ANYBODY, DOES THAT? 
          >> NO. THIS IS IF YOU WANT TO PRESENT UP A SOLUTION TO THE POTENTIAL LEADS ALL THE CITIES CAN SUPPOR WHAT OUR CITY IS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          USE SUBMIT A RESOLUTION COVER SHE AND THE RESOLUTION PAYS FOR THE DIRECTIVES THAT WERE GIVEN TO PUT IN RESOLUTIONS P-LETTER OR ONE WAS A LOCAL HOTEL, THE LOCAL ALCOHOL BEVERAGE CODE TO ALLOW MIXED BEVERAGE SALES TAX IN A LIMITED PURPOSE AREA AND THEN THERE WERE UP RESOLUTION FOR -- 
          LET ME PULL IT UP OVER HERE. >> THE LOCAL OPTION TO A LIQUOR 
          STATE LAW. >> AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS TO HAVE AN OFFICIAL AMENDMENTS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES AND SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE DISCUSSED EARLIER ALLOWED THE CITY TO CALL ELECTION TO CHANGE THE SALES TAX ALLOCATIONS TO BETTER SPLIT F THE CITY HAS ENTERED INTO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT. AND THEN ALLOWING THE CITY TO CALL THE SALES TAX ELECTION AND THEN THE LAST ONE WAS VSD. 
          I JUST DID THE ESD. WAS THERE A THIRD ONE? 
          >> WELCOME OF THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP. 
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THE ESD WE TALKED ABOUT LAST SESSION, YOU SEE THAT I BROUGHT UP THE DEAL ABOUT ALLOWING MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICTS, MIXED EFFORTS SALES TAXES RIGHT NOW AND I THINK JUST INCLUDED SALES TAX AND THERE IS ONE OTHE THING THAT INCLUDES AND IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY MIXED BEVERAGE SALES. 
          >> JUST AT OF THE GENERAL PREFERENCE TO ANYTHING ALLOWED BY LAW. TO MAKE IT MORE SPECIFIC. 
          >> IT CREATES A HEADACHE WHEN THE COUNTY CAN READ IT ONE WAY IN THE CITY CAN READ IT ANOTHER WAY. 
          AND WE HAVE AGREEMENT WITH STAR BRANCH AND ALL SALES TAX GENERATED STAR BRANCH COME TO THE CITY OF HUTTO ONCE WE PAY OFF THE AGREEMENTS WE HAVE WITH THEM. 
          THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN MY HOPE IS WE SEND IT TO TML AND THAT MAKES SENSE AND CODIFIED FAT. AND THE OTHER ONE IS YOU CAN DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO SELL LIQUOR ARE NOT SELL LIQUOR AND NOT SELL MIXED BEVERAGES. THE CITY IS ALLOWED TO DO THAT PAGE YOU HAVE TO PETITION SOMEONE, 35% OF THE REDSHIRT VOTERS WHO VOTED IN THE LAST GOVERNOR'S ELECTION AND MY HOPE IS THAT AS A COUNCIL, WE PASS A RESOLUTION TO ALLOW A CITY TO DETERMINE ITS FATE. WE CAN CALL AN ELECTION ON OUR OWN. WE JUST CALL AND ELECTION LIKE WE HAVE FOR ANYONE ELSE. AND WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THA 
          ONE. >> IF YOU APPROVE THESE RESOLUTIONS, MAYOR SNYDER BUT I'VE HAD AT THE BUSINESS MEETIN AND PRESENT THEM TO BE VOTED ON AND INCLUDED IN THE LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM PICKS UP IF YOU PASS THESE, THEN THE SECRETARY WILL 
          SEND THEM OVER TOMORROW. >> BUT BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30. 
          >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR ACTION FOR THIS? MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. 
          >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. 
          AND YET THE DISCUSSION PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. 
          [10.1. Discussion and Possible Action on Outside Agency Funding Awards for FY 2027. (Alberta Barrett)]
NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 10.1, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON AGENCY FUNDING AWARDS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          >> ALBERTA BARRETT, FINIS DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD. 
          >> BACK IN RECORD AND IN MY WORKSHOP, COUNCIL DISCUSSED DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND FUNDINGS FOR THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING PROGRAM AND INCLUDED IN THE 27 TH BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER THROUGH MAY, WE HAVE $210,443 ALLOCATED TO THE OUTSIDE AGENCY PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE IN ADDITION TO THE ADVOCACY CENTER CENTER AND THE CITY'S HEALTH WILLIAMSON COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT. SO IN ADDITION TO THOSE INCLUDE IN THE PACKET ARE THE FUNDING AMOUNTS THAT WERE PRETTY MUCH SET, WHAT WAS LEFT TO BE DETERMINED WAS THE AMOUNT FOR THE RESOURCE CENTER, WHICH YOU DISCUSSED 60,000 AND THEN ALLOCATING 40,000 OF THAT TO A BUILDING FUND AND IN THE LAST ITEM WAS THE SACRED HEART COMMUNITY CLINIC, WHICH HAD A REQUEST UP 11,443. SO WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR THIS EVENING IS TO GET OFF FINAL AWARD UP THOSE AMOUNTS SO THAT WE CAN START WORKING ON THE AGREEMENTS AND BRING THOSE BACK 
          TO COUNCIL IN OCTOBER. >> I DID RECEIVE AN E-MAIL TODA FROM HRC AND THEY APPRECIATE OU OFFER TO HELP THEM AND THEY PUT LIKE US TO BE OPEN TO DISCUSS THE LONG-TERM OPTION FOR OPPORTUNITIES AND BUILDING DEVELOPMENT. 
          WERE ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN A FEW OPPORTUNITIES AND MAY HAVE A FE LEADS. SO THEY HAVE SOME MOVEMENT ON 
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THAT FRONT AND HAVE THE FULL DEVOTED TO THEIR POSITION. 
          >> THERE IS ANOTHER ORGANIZATIO THAT SUPPOSED TO BE SIGNING UP AND HE'S GOING TO BE VERY UPSET. THE DO A LOT OF THE SAME WORK THAT SACRED HEART DOES NOTHING AGAINST SACRED HEART. 
          WE WILL HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY HERE AND THEY PROVIDE MEDICAL SERVICES AND ALL THEIR DOCTORS ARE FREE AND THEY WORK WHICH YO JUST TO HAVE LOCATION AND ALL THEY NEED IS FOR SOME WAY FOR SOME SUPPLIES. THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER. 
          AND WE CAN FIND A SACRED HEART AND HELP THEM PRESENT TO US. 
          OR WE CAN MAKE NO CHANGES AND JUST LEAVE IT LIKE THIS. 
          >> OUT OF CURIOSITY, WHAT IS SACRED HEART? 
          >> I THINK IT WAS 75. AND YOU SELECT 20,000 LEFT OVER 
          RIGHT? >> I APPRECIATE THE LETTER AND WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND HONOR THEIR REQUEST AND I APPRECIATE THEIR OUTLINE OF THE WORK THAT THEY'VE DONE T FUND THEMSELVES FOR THE BUILDIN UP THE FUTURE AND THAT'S WHAT I HOPE THEY WOULD DO YOU. I AGREE WE COULD DEFINITELY ADD ANY TIME WE ARE GOING TO BE ABL TO OFFER SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY SOMETHING AS VITAL AS HEALTHCARE AND ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND IF WE ARE ABLE TO FUND IT AND IT'S NO TAKING AWAY FROM ANY OTHER CRITICAL SERVICE IN THE CITY, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE IT WOULDN'T BE AND WE COULD POTENTIALLY ADD MORE SERVICES AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THA SO I WOULD HOPE THAT WE BOUGHT HONOR BOTH OF THOSE REQUESTS FO 
          HIC AND FOR SACRED HEART. >> IS THAT A MOTION? 
          >> I WILL MAKE THAT A MOTION. >> THAT WE HAVE A MOTION TO FUN HRC AT 75,000 AND SACRED HEART COMMUNITY AT $11,443. 
          >> SECOND. >> HOW MUCH DID WE END UP HAVIN 
          LEFT OVER? >> , WELL, ASSUMING WE'VE ONLY HAD A MOTION FOR TWO OF THE WHOLE LIST SO ASSUMING THE LIST GETS APPROVED, IT WOULD BE, MATH . 
          >> THAT IS A GOOD POINT. CAN WE AMEND YOUR MOTION TO SAY TO REVISE WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEEN APPROVED? 
          >> YES, THAT WOULD BE SMART SO YOU CAN GET A NUMBER. 
          >> ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT? >> YES, SIR. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? >> HEARING NINE, PLEASE CALL TH BOAT. 
          >> MOTION PASSES 6-1. GOOD JOB. 
          [10.2. Discussion and possible action regarding direction to staff to develop clear development and building standards specific to data centers in Hutto, including but not limited to water and energy use, cooling systems, site design and footprint, landscaping and screening, noise, utility infrastructure and substations, and other appropriate development requirements. (Councilmember Zepeda)]
          WE ARE BREAKING A TREND. >> THE NEXT ITEM, TEN-POINT TO YOU, DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING DIRECTION TO STAFF TO CLEAR TO DEVELOP CLEAR DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING STANDARD SPECIFIC TO DATA CENTERS IN HUTTO, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO WATER AND ENERGY USE, COOLING SYSTEMS, SITE DESIGN AND FOOTPRINT, LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING, NOISE , UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND SUBSTATIONS, AND OTHER APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. 
          >> I'M LOOKING SPECIFICALLY TO OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          I SPENT TIME TALKING TO THEM'S. THERE OUT A WAY TO BE -- THEY SEE THE FISCAL BENEFIT OF HELPING THIS COMMUNITY BUT WHAT ELSE THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS TO REALLY DEFINE WHAT THE BELTING STANDARDS WILL BE, LATE SETBACKS AND DID THAT BE CLOSE SYSTEMS. ITS SITE DESIGN SO I PUT UP TO SEE OUR CITY AND LOOK AT AN EXAMPLE OF THAT AND ALSO BE 
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CAUTIOUS OF ANOTHER EXTREME OF THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH JUST TAKING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT APPROACH FOR NOW BUT IN A COMPLETE MORATORIUM ON DATA CENTERS WHO DON'T WANT TO. 
          >> IS SUCH A HOT TOPIC ISSUE WE DON'T WANT TO GET STUCK ON ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER BUT I THINK W HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DECIDE WHAT IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS FAR AS WHAT WE REQUIRE FOR DATA CENTER COMMUNITY TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION NOISE, WATER USAG IN AN INNOVATIVE WAY TO DO IT. 
          SITE DESIGN, THE FOOTPRINT, WHA WILL IT REQUIRE IN SPECIFIC AREAS AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO OU COUNCIL AND STAFF TO START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS OUTLINING WHAT REQUIREMENTS WOULD WE WANT FOR DATA CENTERS THAT WANT TO BUILD. 
          SO WE MOVE THE PROCESS FASTER BECAUSE OF IT IS A HOT TOPIC ISSUES WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS RIGHT FO US AND THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND WE HAVE GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW OR NOT ALLOW AND WE ALSO DO NOT WANT TO HINDER INNOVATION AS BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF CHANGES RIGHT NOW IN TECHNOLOGY BUT BECAUSE W CAN'T STOP THEM FROM COMING HERE , WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE AT LEAST GET AHEAD OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO ASK FOR OR REQUIRE AN 
          DESIGN. >> AS MUCH AS I HAVE ENJOYED GOING THROUGH UBC FOR HOURS ON END, SINCE PRE-HAVE NOT LOOKED AT THE AMENDMENTS WE MADE FROM ART DATA CENTERS COVERED UNDER 
          SEP RIGHT NOW? >> YES, SIR. 
          THEY WERE CURRENTLY THAN THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE STAFF BACK THEN AND THAT PNC BACK THE WAS TO TAKE THE SF -- STP DESIGNATION AWAY FROM DATA CENTERS THAN OUR SUBCOMMITTEE RECOMMENDED PUTTING THEM BACK I AND SO WE DID. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING WITH THE WAY UNDERSTAND WITH THE SUV, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS THE WAY T CONTROL ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          >> WE DON'T WANT TO STIFLE THEM. I THINK THAT MY OPINION IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO WITHOUT STIFLING KIND OF GUIDE THEM TO WHERE WE THINK IS BEST. I THINK WE HAVE THAT ALREADY BU MAYBE I'M NOT COMPLETELY CORRECT . 
          >> SORRY TO DISCUSS WITHOUT A MOTION. 
          >> IF WE COULD EVER CHANGE THAT IN PROTOCOLS. 
          >> I JUST MAKE THAT MOTION AND THEN STUFF GETS PASSED. 
          SO I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA AND THE MAYOR PRO TEM. 
          WHICH IS WHY BACK ON I HAD TO LICK IT UP, WE ACTUALLY, I DON' KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO YET I WILL CALL OUT WHO HAS NOT RESPONDED TO THE CITY MANAGER BUT BACK IN JULY 22, HE SET OUT A THING BECAUSE OF HIS COUNCIL SAID WE NEED A PAST STUDY FOR MOST OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          YOU WANT TO HAVE DATED UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THAT WE EVEN WANT. HOW DO YOU SET A POLICY WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. 
          SO NOT EVERYONE ON COUNCIL HAS COMMENTED ON THE PROPOSED RFP. 
          ONE OF MY COMMENTS WERE, GIVE M JUST A SECOND. 
          I WAS NOT PREPARED. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MY COMMENTS WARD IN TERMS OF WHERE MY HEAD WAS BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT EVERYTHING. 
          IT WAS CRAZY. I TOLD JAMES FAMILY SUGGESTION WAS RFP PAGE 14, IT STILL HAD THE OLD COUNCILMEMBER IN THERE, AND EXHIBIT C, PROJECT OBJECTIVE . 
          I SAID WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING VIBRATION ISSUES THAT IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE PART OF THE NOISE AN THE HEAT, I'M NOT SURE THERE CA BE SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THAT. WE LEARNED WITH THE AMPHITHEATE THAT IF YOU DO, WHAT WAS THAT, TECH 9. 
          >> IT WAS DEAD MOUSE 5. YOU CAN TURN THE FACEUP LOUD ENOUGH. INSULT WHEN WE HAVE A CONCERT COME AT THE BROOKLYN'S DON'T COMPLAIN CAN'T HEAR BUT THE PEOPLE IN HOOVERVILLE COMPLAIN. AT IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE ATMOSPHERE AND TEMPERATURE AND THEN WE LEARNED RECENTLY AT I BELIEVE CROSS CREEK WITH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT 
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IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PIECE OF STEAL IN A WALKWAY WELDED CORRECTLY WITH THE BIG VATICAN BECAUSE OF VIBRATION THAT THE PEOPLE WORKING CAT HERE BUT YOU CAN ALSO HEAR IT IN PEOPLE'S HOMES AND SO WE THOUGHT PEOPLE WERE CRAZY WE STARTED DOING STUDIES THAT WE FOUND OUT IT IS THERE SO FOR ME, I THINK FROM THERE WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO DO THAT FOR SOME THINGS BECAUSE I DO AGREE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING YOU WANT IN AN SEP AND I TRUST THIS COUNCIL BUT I DO NOT TRUST THE COUNCIL WE HAD PREVIOUSLY. IT'S LIKE THEY JUST APPROVED EVERYTHING AND WE COME IN AND DEBATE EVERYTHING AD NAUSEA MASAI THINK WE WOULD CAPTURE A LOT OF STUFF I DO THINK WE NEED THINGS THAT WHILE THE INDUSTRY STANDARD IS TODAY CLOSE, WHATEVER THE NEWEST TECHNOLOGY IS, WE CAN RUN SOME THINGS IN THERE BUT I WOULD BE CAREFUL NO TO PUT TOO MUCH IN THERE BECAUS WE TALK ABOUT STIFLING AND WE PUT TOO MUCH IN THERE AND THEY JUST JUMPED TO THE NOTION THAT WE JUST GOT THIS IDEA FOR THE COUNTY AND I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT , NO MATTER WHAT, THE PEOPLE FIGHT THAT MOVE GOT ALL THIS INFORMATION AND IT IS ALL WE DO. WE DON'T WANT TO ANNEX HERE, WE ARE JUST BUILDING ON -- WE TALK ALL THE TIME ABOUT DEVELOPERS, THE DIRTY ONES ON THE GOOD ONES AND IF YOU PRESS GOOD ONE TOO HARD, YOU TURNED INTO WHAT WE CALL A DIRTY ONE. 
          BUT I THINK WE CAN HAVE SOME COMMON SENSE THINGS, SOUND AND VIBRATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT OR WE CAN GUARANTEE LIKE OUR WATER USAGE, LIKE HOW DO WE KNO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE THAT MUCH WATER. THERE USING MORE THAN BUT WE APPROVED, WE CAN SHUT THEIR WATER OFF. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SHUT WATER OFF TO A DATA CENTER, BUT SOMEBODY TELLS ME THEY KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE TOOK THAT TO THEM IN THE NOT GOING T USE MORE THAN THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BECAUSE WE WILL SHUT IT OFF. SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN PUT IN AND BY DOING THIS WE KNEW WE COULD HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO KNO THE GOING TO USE -- IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DON' EVEN HAVE 10 MILLION GALLONS BU WHAT WE DO HAVE IS A REQUEST PROCESS AND WE HAVE OTHER PERMITTING IN WAYS AND I THINK WE CAN PUT SOME OF THAT IN AND LEAVE IT OPEN ENOUGH TO WHERE W CAN ADD IN DIFFERENT THINGS AND I CAN SEE DATA CENTERS IN THE FUTURE BEING BUILT AND I THINK WE CAN SAY WHERE THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY CAN'T BE OVER A CERTAIN SIZE IN AND HYPE SCALE. THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          ANYBODY THAT HAS BEEN -- IT USED TO BE. 
          DATA CENTERS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. 
          THAT JUST GOING TO MAKE THEM SMALLER SO IF YOU MAKE THE COST SO EXPENSIVE, THEY WILL JUST DO 20 EASY DEALS VERSUS ONE THAT I A HEADACHE SO I THINK WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK NO JUST TODAY BUT ALSO IN THE FUTURE AT I THINK THAT JANIE IS HEARING AND SARAH IS HEARING, W CAN GET AHEAD WHERE WE CAN SAY THEY ARE GOING TO BE BUILT NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND BIGGER SETBACKS, SMALLER BUILDINGS. AND WHATEVER IT IS FOR A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT. SO I DO THINK IT IS WORTH THAT JUST MAKING SURE YOU DON'T HAVE THAT REVOLT EVERY TIME SOMEONE COMES UP BECAUSE AT SOME POINT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NEED TO BE PERMANENT. THEY COULD BE SMALL ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE JUST GOING TO FIT INTO STARBUCKS THAT CLOSES AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT SO I AGREE WITH ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID. FIRST THERE WAS A BOX AND THEN WORKSTATION. SO TO ME THE DATA SET OF ISSUES THAT IS THE ISSUE. ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS COME ALL OF THIS TECHNOLOGY THAT IS GOIN ON FOR 30 OR 40 YEARS, WHICH WA THE BIRTH OF THE TEXAS -- THEY HAD COMPUTERS. 
          >> ANYWAY. THE COOLING AND THE NOISE AND VIBRATION, I WHATNOT WANT TO HAVE A VERY RESTRICTIVE,  I 
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THINK IT SHOULD BE GUIDELINES. A LOT OF THIS IS ALL INDUSTRIAL. 
          >> I'M JUST KIDDING. BUT THE THING IS THAT I WOULD HOPE HOWEVER IF YOU WANT TO DO AN ORDINANCE OR WHATEVER IS THA WE TALK ABOUT THESE CATEGORIES OF ISSUES, AND THE AND THE SETBACK SO IF YOU'VE GOT A 10- FOOT CENTER -- CINDERBLOCK WALL AND IT GOT A 4 FOOT PINE TREE IN FRONT OF THAT AS A SOUND BARRIER BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND NEXT DOOR, IT IS MORE LIKE LET'S LOOK AT THES THINGS. 
          THE NICE STANDARDS CAN BE DIFFERENT AND THEN THERE'S A FREQUENCY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THERE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. >> I WOULD HOPE WE ARE SOMETHIN THAT WE HAVE THIS IS THE CATEGORIES, WHAT AFFECTS THIS CATEGORIES A LOT. THAT WE HAVE -- OR ANY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. IT COULD BE A WIDGET MAKER AND JUST HAVE REALLY HIGH NOISE BECAUSE OF ALL THE CHANGE OR TH MILLING OR WHAT EVER. SO IT SHOULD BE SOMEWHAT. 
          >> THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. >> WE DON'T WANT TO STIFLE IT BECAUSE AS THAT TECHNOLOGY FALLS , WE HAVE THESE HABIT BE A CERTAIN WAY AND THAT ACTUALLY COME UP WITH THE SLICKER WAY TO DO IT BUT THAT'S ALL WE REQUIRE SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE DEVELOP THESE POLICIES AND GUARDRAILS FOR INNOVATION, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER WAY TO DO IT AND THAT IS WHAT W SHOULD DO AND THAT IS WHAT WE WANT. 
          LET IT BE KNOWN THAT WE ARE OPE TO THAT. 
          >> AND I ALSO THINK THERE HAS T BE SOMEWHAT OF MARKETING HERE. 
          AND YOU LOOK AT THE DATA NOW, THE DATA CENTERS FOR AI USES ABOUT 10-15% BUT I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT INCREASING BECAUSE OF THE COMPUTING POWER AND THE DAT SET SIDES OF THE JUST GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER AN BIGGER. 
          PROBABLY 3-5 YEARS, ALL OF THE SECRET THAT WE HAVE HERE IS GOING TO BE OBSOLETE AND ALL THAT'S GOING TO DO THAT IS THE HIGH COST BUT THE PERFORMANCE I LIKE 30-40X 4 PERFORMANCE. 
          DAN, GO AHEAD. >> I'VE GOT A FEW THINGS. 
          I THINK THE MAYOR MAYOR SET ABOUT WATER IS RIGHT ON. 
          WE COULDN'T PHYSICALLY PROVIDE THE WATER PICKED BUT I THINK LARGELY TO THINGS, ONE IS WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUTCOMES, SO FOCUSING ON HOW MUCH WATER THEY USE, FOCUSING ON THE NOISE IMPACT. THOSE MAKE SENSE BUT FOCUSING O PUT TECHNOLOGY THANK YOUSE, THA IS REALLY NOT OUR AREA HAD TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH CHANGES HERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOUL REALLY BE CHASING PAID WE SHOUL JUST BE CHASING THE BASALT OF KEEPING THE WATER USAGE TO LEVELS THAT WE ARE OKAY WITH THAT KEEPING THE NOISE LEVELS THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE. 
          WE'VE ALREADY DONE THINGS LIKE CHANGING THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING. 
          AND LOOK AT THE HEIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS THAT SETBACK OVER CERTAIN LEVELS. SO THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT BUT I'VE DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND YOU KEEP DOING THOSE AND YOU CA IMPROVE THEM AND WE SHOULD. AND THEN THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE TOTALLY OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. 
          WE DON'T REGULATE OUR CONSUMPTION. 
          THAT IS STATE REGULATED. AND YOU GET THAT FROM THAT LEVEL . WE HAVE ZERO CONTROL UP WITH THAT AND WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE TRYING TO SOMEHOW REGULATE THAT BECAUSE THEY WILL GET THAT APPROVAL AND IT WILL GO IN AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT'S NOT OUR AREA OF CONCERN BUT IT'S A BIGGER CONCERN IN THE STATE THA PEOPLE SHOULD BE 
          >> IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTROL AT A CITY LEVEL. 
          AND I DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO POLICE THAT, WHAT-- WHEN WE HAVE NO WAY TO CONTROL IT. 
          >> YOU SEE THIS IN AUSTIN A LOT. THEY KIND OF OVERREGULATE SOMETHING, AND THE STATE COMES BACK-- TAKE THIS POWER. 
          THE STATE SAYS WE NEED TO PROVIDE YOU ON POWER. 
          THIS COUNCIL HAS TAKEN THE FIRST STEP TO ALLOW SOMEONE TO BUILD A 
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POWER PLANT IN THE CITY OF HUTTO. 
          SO WE HAVE INITIALLY LIMITED THE SIZE, THE HEIGHT, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT AS SOON AS YOU TELL THEM ONE THING, WE ARE GETTING INTO BILLIONS OF DEVELOPMENT WHERE THEY ARE LIKE, OKAY, WE CAN JUST BUILD A NEW POWER PLANT. 
          SO PUSH BACK. ALL WE NEED IS THE STATE TO OVERCORRECT, WHICH THEY DO ON EVERY OCCASION. 
          AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SAY THE CITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO REGULATE POWER DEVELOPMENT, BUT IT'S INVOLVED IN A DATACENTRE. 
          THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A SKYBOX, WE HAVE A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT BUILT BY A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, BECAUSE WE SAID AND MADE A BIG PUSH TO PROVIDE OUR OWN POWER. SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL. 
          WE ARE VERY BEHOLDEN TO OUR PEOPLE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THE SAME CAN BE SAID ABOUT THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE ALL THE TIME. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE WOULD HELP THAT MUCH. 
          >> I DO AGREE WITH THAT. AND ONE OTHER THING IS WHEN THESE ENTITIES ARE TRACKING THINGS, WE SHOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. WE DON'T NEED TO ADD BUREAUCRACY TO TRACK WATER USAGE. IT HAS COME OUT RECENTLY THAT DATA CENTERS ARE NOT DOING IT, AND THAT IT'S BEING PUSHED AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT THEY HAVE TO REPORT THEIR WATER USAGE TO THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. 
          AND THEY WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES OF POTENTIALLY HAVING THEIR ELECTRICITY DISCONNECTED UP THEY DON'T. 
          THAT'S A BIG THING THAT THE STATE HAS TO KEEP AN EYE ON WATER USAGE. WE SHOULD BE PUBLISHING THOSE REPORTS. WE DON'T NEED TO GO INTO SEPARATE MONITORING. LET THE STATE BOARD DO THAT. 
          AND WE CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IF IT IS AS SIMPLE AS OBTAINING IT FROM THE STATE. THAT SHOULD BE PUBLIC INFORMATION. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE BEST WAY TO DO THESE THINGS AND NOT TRY TO MANAGE EACH OF THEM OURSELVES. WE NEED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE OTHER MANAGEMENT THAT IS OUT THERE. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON. 
          THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS TO ADD IN AND CONSIDER. 
          ESPECIALLY ABOUT UTILIZING SYSTEMS ALREADY IN PLACE. 
          >> ANY ACTION ON THIS ITEM? >> WOULD IT BE A MOTION TO MOVE AND APPROVE IT AND HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT ANY UPDATES AND CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW OF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR UDC CODE? 
          >> WE CAN DO ANYTHING THAT WE WANT. 
          FOR ME I WOULD WAIT TO GET THE SOUND STUDY BACK AND FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE-- WAS AT JULY 22ND? I THINK YOU SAID BY MONDAY, IF WE DON'T HEAR BACK FROM COUNCIL, 
          THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS-- >> THAT EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT YESTERDAY OR TODAY THAT SUNDAY WOULD BE THE DEADLINE AND MONDAY WOULD GO LIVE. THE EMAIL IT COUNCIL THAT ASKED 
          FOR COMMENTS WAS AUGUST 5TH. >> IT WOULD BE UP NEXT ON THE AGENDA TO APPROVE THE STUDY. BUT ME, I WOULD LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY SECURE WHAT THE DATA SAYS, AND THEN WE CAN... 
          [10.3. Discussion and possible action regarding establishing clear and defined community benefits and expectations associated with data center development in Hutto, beyond property tax revenue, and applicable to data center projects regardless of whether a Special Use Permit is required. (Councilmember Zepeda)]
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT COMES BACK ON THAT. 
          >> ITEM 10-3. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION DISKETTE-- ESTABLISHING CLEAR COMPUTER THE-- COMMUNITY BENEFITS AND EXPECTATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH DATACENTRE DEVELOP INTO AN HUTTO, BEYOND PROPERTY TAX REVENUE, AND APPLICABLE TO APPLICABLE TO DATACENTRE PRODUCTS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED. 
          >> THIS IS A WRITER-MAC TO THE FIRST ONE. 
          I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND AGAIN, WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE TODAY-- AN ADDITIONAL DEFINED BENEFIT OTHER THAN THE FISCAL, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY TAX AND THE REVENUE PERMITTED FROM IT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US BE THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT SAYS OKAY, EVER GOING TO HAVE THIS, WE CANNOT STOP IT. AND WERE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE WE SET STANDARDS THAT ARE FRET-- FLEXIBLE, BUT WE ARE LETTING DEVELOPERS KNOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR THIS. 
          WE WILL ACCEPT OUTCOMES OUT OF THE CONVERSATION. 
          THAT WE ALSO WITH THAT SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE-- AT LEAST AT THIS STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE WAY THEY ARE BEING BUILT, IS-- BEYOND THE BENEFIT OF THE TAXES HAS NOT REALLY MOVED PUBLIC OPINION AS MUCH AS SOME PEOPLE WOULD'VE LIKED. 
          SO WE CAN SAY, HEY,, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL DEFINITION-- ARE GOING TO BUILD A DATA CENTER IN OUR COMMUNITY, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. 
          WHEN I TALKED ABOUT-- I APOLOGIZE TO JAMES, HE PUT IT IN AN ELOQUENT AND CLEAR WAY. AND I'M SURE-- SORRY I DID NOT MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. BUT YOU HAD SOME GOOD POINTS ABOUT HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY PHRASE THAT AND WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY ASK FOR. I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MAKE A NOTE 
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OF IT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT. 
          >> THAT IS OKAY. EFFECTIVELY-- YOU HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS CONVERSATION WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER ITEM. IT IS EFFECTIVELY YOU MAKING YOUR LIST AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT IS THE COMPONENT THAT I THINK WAS THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE. WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE IS EVERY DATA CENTER THAT WOULD GET APPROVED WITH AN SEP WOULD HAVE A COMMUNITY BENEFIT BE-- EXPENSE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, ASSOCIATED WITH IT JUST LIKE THE BIDS DO. WHEN YOU APPROVE THAT, THERE IS A COMMUNITY FEE FOR THAT, AND THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE USED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO ON AND SO FORTH. YOU COULD EFFECTIVELY ESTABLISH SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          SPECIFICALLY FOR DATA CENTERS. AND THAT COULD BE-- WE TALKED ABOUT THE MENU LIST OF PROJECTS BEFORE, THE TRAILS AND THAT SORT OF STUFF. YOU COULD POTENTIALLY SAY IT IS A FUNCTION OF X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, OR A FUNCTION OF YOUR INVESTMENT. WHATEVER IT IS. 
          WHATEVER METHODOLOGY YOU WILL CHOOSE. 
          AND YOU CAN CUT A CHECK AND WILL GO TO AND EARMARKED FUNDS THAT WILL BE USED FOR THESE THINGS, OR YOU CAN PICK, BUILD A TRAIL, PUT YOUR NAME ON IT, THAT SORT OF STUFF. 
          >> YOU EXPLAINED THAT MUCH BETTER. 
          AND THE REASON I ADDED THAT IN THERE IS I'M NOT SURE HOW IT'S GOING TO INVOLVE-- THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS MIGHT CHANGE. 
          AND RIGHT NOW THEY WOULD ALL BE UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          BUT AS THINGS BEGIN TO EVOLVE THAT MIGHT CHANGE. 
          BUT I DON'T WANT TO MOVE...  WE ARE VERY SPECIFICALLY SEEKING A COMMUNITY BENEFIT FROM DATA CENTERS, I JUST WANTED TO HEAR EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS ON THAT IDEA. 
          >> I AGREE. I SUPPORT GETTING SOME TYPE OF ENTICEMENT. WITH THE CHANGE IN THE CLIMATE, WHICH IS A MARKETING THING THAT DATA CENTERS ARE LOOKING FOR PLACES. SO, WHY NOT HAVE THEM CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE, HOWEVER DEFINED. 
          AND I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE SOMETHING OPEN. 
          LIKE WE DO FOR THE PARTS DEDICATION, IT'S ALL PARKLAND, WHICH IS ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT MAYBE WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT. SOME CONTRIBUTION TO THE LIBRARY. WHATEVER THE REQUIREMENT, WE HAVE CATEGORIES AND THINGS, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS YOU WANT TO SEE HERE WITH THE LIBRARY. 
          THE PARKS AND TRAILS, HELPING WITH SOMETHING DIVERGENT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO BE OPEN. AND WITH EACH DEVELOP AND THAT COMES IN AND SAYS HERE IS OUR PORTFOLIO OF THINGS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND THAT PORTFOLIO IS A DYNAMIC CHANGE ALL THE 
          TIME. >> THAT COULD WORK. 
          DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY BUILD IT, IT MIGHT CHANGE. 
          IF THEY BUILD IT IN A HEAVILY INDUSTRIAL AREA, IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO IMPROVE. BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE THERE. 
          WHEREAS IF THEY ARE BUILDING TO NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BIGGER ASK OR REQUIREMENT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY SEE TRUE BENEFIT. WHAT BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION TOO WAS EVEN THE GOVERNOR SAYING THAT HE SAW THAT ONE THING THAT DATA CENTERS DID NOT DO WAS DO A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THE GOOD BUY-IN FROM CITIES WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING. AND IF THAT'S TRUE, HOW DO WE IN OUR LITTLE TOWN AMEND THAT, AND WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE WE. 
          >> AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE A GEOGRAPHICALLY RESTRICTED. 
          MAYBE SOMEONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TOWN. 
          BUT WE HAVE SOME-- MAYBE THERE ARE SOME SIDEWALKS, SOME ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS THAT ARE COMING IN. 
          CAN YOU HELP US OUT WITH THE SIDEWALKS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEAR WHERE YOU ARE. WE WANT TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT IMMEDIATELY IN THEIR AREA, BUT I DON'T WANT TO RESTRICTED TO JUST HELPING WITH THE SIDEWALKS IN SOUTH HUTTO. 
          >> IT'S A GOOD POINT. >> YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT. LIKE THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU NEED TO DO. ONCE IT'S DONE, WERE CONSTANTLY HAVE TO CHANGE IT AND ADD MORE TO IT. 
          BUT ALMOST CREATE MORE OF AN EXPECTATION. 
          THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE REQUEST AS A CITY. 
          AND IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE WE EXPECT SOMETHING FROM 
          YOU GUYS TO DO CERTAIN THINGS. >> I'M JUST SAYING, KIND OF MAKE 
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IT A GENERAL CATEGORY SO WE DON'T RESTRICT. 
          IF IT'S. -- TRANSPORTATION, PEDESTRIAN, VEHICLE OR, OR WHATEVER. MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS MORE EDUCATIONAL WITH THE LIBRARY. 
          MAYBE IT IS SOMETHING WITH-- ON THE PARKS. 
          IT'S MORE DEDICATED PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT. 
          >> DO WE NEED A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THIS SO YOU CAN ALL HAVE THIS 
          OUT. >> I THINK WE CAN TAKE IT ON. 
          >> I'M TRYING TO GET SOME MOVEMENT HERE OR WE WILL JUST 
          KEEP TALKING. >> I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THIS TO THE MESSAGEBOARD. HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, WE NEED TO GET THIS FOR THE PUBLIC. NOT THIS COUNCIL, BUT THINK OF THE NEXT COUNCIL THAT WERE NOT A PART OF. 
          SOMEONE PLAYS $3 MILLION, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE TWO KEEP TAXES FROM GOING UP, SO WERE GOING TO FUND ROAD CONSTRUCTION WITH THE DATACENTRE. IT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT THE COMPLAINT FROM THE PUBLIC IS THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          SO FOR ME I WOULD LIKE US TO REALLY LOOK AT FOCUSING ON NOT THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, LIKE I THINK COUNCILLOR REYNOLDS IS TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALMOST LIKE WE DO WITH THE PID'S. 
          I WOULDN'T EVEN SAY THE EVALUATION. 
          I'M ALSO MORE INTO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL. 
          SOMETHING WE CAN MEASURE. THE POWER USAGE IS WE CAN EQUATE POWER USAGE-- AT LEAST RIGHT NOW. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE WE CAN EQUATE, THE BIGGER IT GOES, WE CAN DO PID, AND SAY THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE GOING IN EITHER TOWARDS OUR PARK IMPROVEMENT FUND, OR LIKE YOU DO WITH THE IMPACT FEES, OR IN A PROJECT THAT IS PARK RELATED IN LIEU OF THOSE FEES. AND THE MONEY WOULD ALWAYS GO TOWARD SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP THE ENVIRONMENT OFFSET WHATEVER IT IS. OTHERWISE WE HAVE SPENT ALL THAT MONEY ON THOSE WASTEWATER LINES, PEOPLE SAY WHAT DO WE GET OUT OF IT. AND THEY SAY OTHERWISE. 
          BUT I WILL BRING IT-- I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING. 
          THERE IS MONEY AND I THINK IF WE KEEP IT LOW ENOUGH WE CAN GET PEOPLE, AS WE BUILD CLOSER TO NEIGHBORHOODS, WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET AN SU P. IT WON'T BE AN EASY ONE, BUT... 
          >> YOU WILL TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO. 
          I'M SURE. [INDISCERNIBLE] 
          >> I'VE SEEN CITIES DO LARGE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS, LANDSCAPING AROUND IT, TO OFFSET SOME OF THE HEAT DOME STUFF. 
          >> CAN WE JUST SAY THAT ALL DATA CENTERS-- WHEN WE SAY A DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY INTO A PART FUND. 
          >> WE ALREADY DO IN OUR PARKLAND DEDICATION CHARGE COMMERCIAL. 
          >> AND WE DIFFERENTIATE THAT BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND THE DATA CENTERS THAT HAVE A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF COMMITMENT THAT THEY 
          HAVE TO GIVE? >> IT'S BASED ON A STUDY BASED ON THE PARKLAND NEEDS. YOU CAN HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN OUR STUDY. 
          >> IT'S JUST AN EXPECTATION. >> GOOD POINT. 
          >> JAMES, CITY MANAGER, FOR THE DIRECT-- RECORD. 
          I AM HEARING THAT COUNCIL IS GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS NOTION, AND WANTS LEGAL TO COME BACK WITH HOW WE COLLECT FUNDS FOR DATA CENTERS WHEREVER THEY COME IN TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          >> CAN WE DO IT LEGALLY, AND HOW DO WE GET THE MOST OUT OF IT? AND I'VE HEARD WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET PUBLIC INPUT. 
          MOST OF THE CONCERNS WE ARE HEARING IS ENVIRONMENTAL INPUT AND QUALITY-OF-LIFE. AS I WRITE? 
          >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THEM BRINGS US TO ITEM 10.4. 
          [10.4. Discussion and possible action on Fiscal Year 2027 Hotel Occupancy Tax (HOT) Funding Applications. (David Amsler)]
10.4 DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON FISCAL YEAR 2027, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. THAT STILL FRESH IN OUR HEADS, AND YOU ARE GOING TO SHOW US WHAT WE SAW AGAIN. 
          >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          DAVID ENZLER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD. 
          I AM STANDING IN FOR THIS ITEM. WE HAD OUR WORK SESSION EARLIER TODAY. WE WERE ABLE TO HEAR FROM THE GROUPS, DEEPER PITCHES, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY ARE ASKING 
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FOR, AND THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          WHAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREENS IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE ORIGINAL WORK SESSION. SO THIS IS A REMINDER OF WHAT THOSE COSTS WERE, WHAT FUNDING THEY ARE ASKING FOR. 
          AND A BREAKOUT OF THE PROMOTION OF THE ARTS, WHICH IS REQUIRED, AS WELL AS ADVERTISING AND MARKETING, AND WHAT YOU'RE FUND BALANCE-- FUND BALANCE WOULD BE IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE EVERYTHING. THIS IS STAFF ASKING COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION OF WHICH ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE HOT FUNDING FOR FISCAL YEAR 2027. 
          >> I'M NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF IT EARLY. 
          BUT IF WE APPROVE THIS LIKE IT IS, OVERALL I THINK WERE SURPRISED HOW MUCH MONEY WE SPEND ON SOME OF THIS, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE THE BEST EFFORTS IN TERMS OF SPONSORSHIPS. 
          PART OF ME AS WE APPROVE AT THIS TIME AND WE ALSO SAY THAT NEXT YEAR WE ARE NOT GOING TO FUND THIS. 
          THEY NEED TO MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THIS THROUGH SPONSORSHIPS. 
          THE TRAIL OF LIGHTS HAS AN EXPECTATION. 
          A SICKLY WE ARE OPEN THIS YEAR, AND WE ARE SAYING DON'T EXPECT THE MONEY NEXT YEAR. HAVE THE MONEY THIS YEAR. 
          AT YOUR SPONSORSHIPS. YOU HAVE A YEAR. 
          AND AFTER THAT, WE ARE JUST NOT GOING TO DO IT. 
          AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO DO THE VISITOR CENTER. 
          IT MAKES MONEY, I DON'T WANT TO STICK THE PARK DEPARTMENT TRAIL LIGHTS-- EVEN THOUGH THE COUNCIL KIND OF SET THE ULTIMATUM LAST YEAR, START DOING SPONSORSHIPS THAT DON'T GET MONEY. 
          LIVE AT THE CO-OP IS ONE OF THE BEST PLANS THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO US IN LIVE RECENT MEMORY. 
          AND HOLIDAYS IN HUTTO-- I THINK IT'S VERY CLOSE, AND WE MOVE THAT STUFF TO A LINE ITEM NEXT YEAR, AND IT SHOULD BE WITHIN A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE VIPS. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING, TO APPROVE IT. 
          MINUS THE OLD-TIME DAYS FUNDING WE HAVE ACCOUNTING SET UP TO WHERE THE MONEY COMES IN FROM THE REVENUE THIS YEAR. 
          IT GOES IN TO A LINE ITEM FOR NEXT YEAR. 
          AND THE EXPECTATION FOR THE STAFF IS TO NOT COME BACK ASKING FOR MONEY NEXT YEAR. HAVE IT PLANNED OUT, 
          SPONSORSHIPS, AND HAVE IT DONE. >> WHAT ABOUT THE VISITOR 
          CENTER? >> THEY WILL FIND THAT. 
          >> THERE IS A MOTION. >> SECOND. 
          >> WE ARE KEEPING THE CRAWL? >> TAKING THE CRAWFISH OUT. 
          >> THE HOLIDAYS IN HUTTO CRAWL. >> YES. 
          >> TO BE HAVE A DECISION YET? OR DO WE NEED TO WAIT FOR A 
          MOTION. >> SECOND. 
          NOW WE CAN DISCUSS. >> ONLY THING I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT I WANTED TO THANK ALL THE PRESENTERS. 
          I THINK THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB. 
          I HAVE NO OUT THAT THE LIVE AT THE CO-OP IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE MAKING US A LOT OF MONEY IN THE YEARS TO COME. 
          BASED ON THE PRESENTATION THAT THEY SHARED WITH US TONIGHT. 
          IT WAS REALLY GOOD. I APPRECIATE ALL PRESENTERS. 
          THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. >> I WANT TO SAY IN PUBLIC WHAT I SAID TO THEM IN PRIVATE. WITH THE LIVE AT THE CO-OP. 
          NOT ONLY DID THEY PRESENT A GREAT, THOROUGH PLAN, AND LOFTY GOALS TO HAVE EVERYTHING SPONSORED. 
          BUT THEY WERE STRATEGIC ABOUT HOW THEY WERE GOING TO GET THERE, INCLUDING DIRECT MARKETING TO COLLEGES, AND BRINGING STUDENTS IN, BECAUSE MUSIC FESTIVALS ARE A BIG DRAW AS IT IS. SO PUBLICLY I WANT TO SAY KUDOS ON THAT PLAN TO THE TEAM THAT BROUGHT THAT. 
          THE COMMUNICATION TEAM. EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THE IDEA OF HAVING ORIGINAL MUSIC IS VERY UNIQUE. 
          SO VERY COOL. IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL, SO I'M EXCITED TO GIVE YOU GUYS WHAT YOU NEED TO GET GOING. 
          >> MY HOPE IS THAT IF THIS PASSES-- THAT THEY VIEW THIS AS-- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US HAVE MORE EVENTS. 
          INCUBATE THEM, GET THEM GOING. AND WITH A GOOD SOLID PLAN, IF THERE WAS AN EVENT EVERY WEEKEND IN DOWNTOWN, WE WOULD BE UPSET. 
          WE WOULD JUST KEEP BUILDING PARKING GARAGES. 
          BUT IF WE KEEP FINDING THE SAME ITEM YEAR AFTER YEAR WE ARE NOT EXPANDING. AS A CITY GROWS AT THE SAME THING. I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT THE STAFF 
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IS DOING A GREAT JOB AT THE EVENTS. 
          IT REALLY SOUNDED LIKE THIS WHOLE TIME I THOUGHT THE CRAWL WAS 36,000 PER YEAR. IT'S NOT 36,000, AT 3000. 
          AT 36,000 GOING IN. SO WE HAVE TO DO A COUPLE ACCOUNTING CHANGES. A COUPLE BOMBS HERE AND THERE. 
          BRING IN PARTNERS. SPONSORSHIPS. 
          AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW, ALL THIS STUFF IS MAKING MONEY. 
          WHAT I ULTIMATELY HOPE FOR CANCEL-- COUNCILORS ARE HOT FUNDS GOES ALLOCATED TO BIG-TIME PROJECTS. 
          LIKE ROUND ROCK H.O.T. OF FUNDS TO REBUILD THE ROUND ROCK EXPRESS BALLPARK. WE SPEND A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR ON EVENTS, THAT'S GREAT. 
          BUT HOW WILL WE GET THE $2 MILLION TO FIX THE THEATER? SO I LIKE TO LOOK AT THE MONEY AND COME BACK AND SAY LOOK, WE GOT A SHORT TERM LOANS FROM THE BANK, AND WE WANT TO USE HOT FUND MONEY. WHEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORD OUR ORDINANCES RIGHT TO INVEST IN THESE THINGS AND BRING IN MORE EVENTS. AND THE MORE EVENTS AND MORE BUSINESSES, THE MORE HOTELS WIN. I THINK WE ARE ON THE RIGHT PATH. A COUPLE MONTHS AGO I WAS LIKE, MAN, WE ARE BLOWING MONEY. AND IN SOME WAYS WE ARE AND THERE'S AN EASY WAY TO FIX IT. AND SOME OF THEM THE MONEY WAS NOT AS BAD. BUT ANYWAY... 
          >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS PLAN DOES HAVE 85,159-- 85,159 BEING SET ASIDE. SO THE AMPHITHEATER, EVEN WITH THIS PLAN, WE ARE STARTING TO SET MONEY ASIDE FOR THAT. 
          >> ANY DISCUSSION? PLEASE CALL THE E-VOTE-- PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO. >> 852. 
          [11. EXECUTIVE SESSION]
          >> I WAS READY FOR YOU TO BE LIKE, "NOPE." IT IS 8:52 P.M. AND WE ARE GOING TO GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION-- ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE GO BACK, IF THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS, I HAVE ON MY LIST TO PULL 111 E TO TALK ABOUT THE FLOCKS AND OPEN. ANYONE OBJECT TO THAT. 
          SO BEFORE WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION WE WILL GO TO 852. 
          >> AND YOU HAVE A PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          >> WE WILL DO 111 E, TERMINATION OF FLOCK GROUP INC. MASTER SERVICES AGREEMENT. AND IF WE DO GET INTO SOME LEGAL OPINIONS, WEEKEND STILL HAVE IT PUBLIC AND GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE 
          SESSION. >> MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, HEADS OF THE DEPARTMENTS, I'M COMING TO TONIGHT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ITEM THAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ENCLOSED SESSION REGARDING THE FUTURE USE OF OUR FLOCK CAMERAS. 
          AND I AM OPEN TO START THAT CONVERSATION WHEREVER YOU FEEL WITH QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT OUR CURRENT POSITION IS. 
          >> BEFORE WE GO, I WANT TO HEAR FROM SAMUEL. 
          CAN YOU JUST TELL US MAYBE BRIEFLY WHERE WE WERE AT THREE MONTHS AGO, AND WHERE WE ARE AT TODAY, AND WHAT YOU GUYS AS A DEPARTMENT FEEL THAT WE SHOULD BE OR SHOULD NOT BE. 
          >> YES. THE CITY OF HUTTO, A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO, WE DEPLOYED FLOCK CAMERAS. 
          WE HAVE A TOTAL OF TEN CAMERAS. WE HAVE SEVERAL ON 79, AND SOME OFF-SITE IN SOME OF OUR STRATEGIC PATHWAYS INSIDE OF OUR CITY. WE HAVE USE THOSE CAMERAS VERY EFFECTIVELY. THERE ARE STRONG POSITIVES AND JUSTIFICATIONS FOR THAT TECHNOLOGY. 
          WE HAVE HAD SOME CRIMES THAT WERE COMMITTED IN HUTTO WHERE THEY WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN US RESOLVING THOSE AND SOLVING THOSE CRIMES. THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME CONCERNS INITIALLY WHEN WE DEPLOYED THE SYSTEM, AND WE TOOK ACTIONS TO SOLIDIFY OUR POLICIES AND PRACTICES AND PROCEDURES, WHEN IT CAME TO WHO COULD ACCESS HOW IT WAS ACCESSED, HOW OUR OFFICERS WOULD USE AND ACCESS THE DATA, AND WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE FOR THEM TO USE THAT. 
          AS WE HAVE CONTINUED TO EVOLVE, JUST LIKE WITH ANY TECHNOLOGY, 
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YOU ARE CONSTANTLY ASSESSING AND EVALUATING. 
          WHETHER IT IS A VEHICLE, WEAPONS, YOU ARE GOING TO CONSTANTLY TEST AND EVALUATE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT. 
          SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT WITH THE FLOCK CAMERA SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE HEARD IN THE COMMUNITY, WE HEARD IN THE PUBLIC, WE ALSO HEARD FROM OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THAT CAUSED US TO SAY, LET US TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE. AND NOT DISCOUNTING THE VALUE OF THAT. BUT ALSO COUNTING THE VALUE OF WHAT CONCERNS HAVE BEEN RAISED TO OUR CITY AND OUR DEPARTMENT. 
          SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS ARE THE ACCESSIBILITY OF THE SYSTEM FROM OUTSIDE ENTITIES. ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED IN A CONCERN IS THAT ALTHOUGH WE CAN HAVE THE BEST PRACTICES, THE BEST POLICIES, THERE IS A NATIONAL INTERFACE OF INFORMATION SHARING WITH THIS PARTICULAR TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND WITH THAT, THE SAME LEVEL OF POLICY AND PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE IN HUTTO MAY NOT BE REFLECTED IN OTHER AGENCIES AROUND THE COUNTRY ON THAT SAME NETWORK THAT IS ACCESSING THE DATA AS WELL. AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO POLICE THE PRACTICES OF OUTSIDE AGENCIES WHEN THERE IS THIS OVERLAP OF USE AND ACCESSIBILITY TO THIS PLATFORM. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I DON'T-- WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN FLOCK ALERTS A LICENSE PLATE, THEY ARE NOT RUNNING THE DATA. 
          THEY ARE NOT GIVING THE INFORMATION-- ARE NOT GETTING THE INFO FROM THE FLOCK CAMERA. YOU'RE GETTING THE LICENSE PLATE PICTURE. AND WHAT THAT GIVES US IS THE LOCATION AND SNAPSHOT IN TIME. WHERE THAT VEHICLE WAS. 
          WE ARE ABLE TO PULL THAT INFORMATION WITH A LICENSE PLATE, AND RUN THAT INFORMATION BASED ON PROBABLE CAUSE THAT MAY HAVE ORIGINATED FROM FLOCK. BUT WE FOUND THAT THE CONCERNS THAT EXISTED WITH THE OUTSIDE USE OF THAT PLATFORM AND THE DATA CAUSED US TO SAY LET'S TAKE A STEP BACK AND EVALUATE THIS MORE. ANOTHER THING THAT CAUSED US TO TAKE PAUSE AND SAY LET'S DO SOME DEEPER DIVE INTO EVALUATION, IS THE AI COMPONENT THAT THE SYSTEM USES. 
          CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, IT IS NOT A SYSTEM WHERE, ONCE UPON A TIME IF YOU HAD A CAMERA OUT, THE CAMERA TAKES A PICTURE OF IT AND YOU GOT THE PICTURE AND THAT'S ALL YOUR DATA. 
          THEY HAVE A PROPRIETARY LEARNING AI TECHNOLOGY PIECE THAT THEY USE IN THIS. AND THE CONCERN WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE MUCH ABOUT THAT. 
          WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO POLICE THAT. 
          SO WITH THOSE CONCERNS, THAT WAS A REASON WHY BACK IN AUGUST WE DECIDED TO SAY LET US PUT A PAUSE ON THE INTERNAL USE OF THE SYSTEM UNTIL WE CAN DO SOME DEEPER INQUIRIES INTO THIS. 
          AND THE CONTRACT. WE WANT TO EXPLORE THAT AND FIND OUT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO WE STOPPED THE USE OF THAT INTERNALLY, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE LIMITED THAT WE DID REMOVE THOSE CAMERAS TO TAKE THOSE DOWN AND SAY LET'S REPLACE THESE OFF-SITE SO THAT THERE CAN BE NO INADVERTENT CONNECTION TO IT UNTIL WE BROUGHT THIS TO COUNCIL AND TALK TO COUNCIL ABOUT OUR CONCERNS AND THE VALIDITY AND THE POSITIVES ABOUT THE SYSTEM SO THAT COUNCIL CAN 
          GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK AND INPUT. >> BEFORE WE GET INTO THE BACK AND FORTH WE THE CITIZENS SPEAK. GO AHEAD. 
          >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING I FULLY SUPPORT AND HAVE MY FULL TRUST IN THE HUTTO POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN RECENT YEARS THEY-- HUTTO RANKED AS THE 26TH SAFEST CITY TO LIVE IN TEXAS. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE CITIZENS, BUT WORN PORTLY THE REMARKABLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          I'VE NOTHING BUT THE UTMOST FAITH IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THAT BEING SAID, BEFORE I GET INTO IT, I WILL AVOID ANYTHING CONSPIRATORIAL ABOUT FLOCK CAMERAS. 
          I WILL STICK TO FACTS AND FOCUS ON OUR NEARBY CITIES THAT HAVE REMOVED THE FLOCK CAMERAS. THE MAIN ONE I WANT TO GET INTO HIS PFLUGERVILLE. IT REALLY SHOWS THE FACT OF WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. THE RISKS OF THE SECURITY. 
          PFLUGERVILLE RECENTLY-- I KNOW YOU PROBABLY HEARD THEY HAD 28 CAMERAS. THEY RECENTLY REMOVED. 
          AND OPERATING COST OF $87,500 PER YEAR. 
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THEY ENDED IT AFTER A CITIZEN REQUESTED AN AUDIT THAT SHOWED 1.6 MILLION-- 1.6 MILLION SEARCHES BETWEEN FEBRUARY 16TH AND AUGUST 15TH BY OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT WERE NOT PARTNERED WITH THE PFLUGERVILLE CITY COUNCIL. 
          AND THERE ARE OTHER CITIES NEARBY THAT HAVE REMOVED THE FLOCK CAMERAS. THOSE ARE NOT NECESSARILY SECURITY RISKS, BUT MORE SO THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE. 
          CITY COUNCIL BELIEVED THAT TO HONOR THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY DID NOT FEEL SAFE OR COMFORTABLE WITH THE FLOCK CAMERAS. AND I BELIEVE THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO FEEL THE SAME. I'VE TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF HUTTO AMONG MANY DEMOGRAPHICS. 
          YOUNG, OLD STUDENTS. AND I FULLY BELIEVE THAT IT IS THE GENERAL CONSENSUS THAT PEOPLE DO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH FLOCK. I DO CONCEDE TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN USEFUL IN MANY INVESTIGATIVE CIRCUMSTANCES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, SPECIFICALLY. 
          BUT THERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS I WANT TO THROW OUT. 
          HAS HUTTO CONDUCTED A OFFICIAL PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE AUDIT? HOW MANY INVESTIGATIONS HAS FLOCK MATERIALLY ASSISTED? AND WHO CAN ACCESS HUTTO'S DATA? I THINK THOSE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OR THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          THE HUTTO RESIDENTS DESERVE TO HAVE THIS INFORMATION PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE. AND IF THE BENEFITS OUTWEIGH THE RISKS, PERSONAL-- TO PERSONAL PRIVACY AND INFORMATION SECURITY, THEM THE COUNCIL HAS THE EVIDENCE THEY NEED TO KEEP THE CONTRACT. IF THIS CANNOT BE PUBLICLY... 
          CITIZENS OF HUTTO WOULD NEED TO AND THE CONTRACT AND HAVE ALL CAMERAS ARE MOVED. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU. 
          >> THANK YOU, SIR. I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND ACTION FROM COUNCIL. ACTUALLY, ACTION. 
          AND THEN DISCUSSION. >> I HAVE A QUESTION BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION. JAMES, HOW MANY CONTRACTS DO WE HAVE? DO WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE CONTRACTS WITH FLOCK, OR IS IT ALL-ENCOMPASSING WITH THE PD-- 
          P.E.D. AND THE PARTS? >> I THINK THE CONTRACT FOR THE LICENSE PLATE READERS IS IN AND OF IT'S OWN-- IS IT'S OWN DOCUMENT. BECAUSE THAT IS A DIFFERENT WAY OF PAYING FOR THINGS. WE HAVE ALSO PROCURED STRAIGHT SECURITY CAMERAS FROM FLOCK THAT DO NOT HAVE THE AI LICENSE PLATE READER. THEY ARE LITERALLY JUST CAMERAS, BUT FLOCK BRANDED. I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE ARE NOT UNDER CONTRACT. I THINK WE JUST PROCURE THOSE. 
          OUR CONCERN FROM STAFF IS IF COUNCIL WAS CONSIDERING THIS. 
          OF COUNCIL WAS GOING TO MAKE A MISTAKE-- A STATEMENT ABOUT ALL FLOCK CAMERAS NEED TO GO, OR MAKE A MOTION THAT'S ALL-ENCOMPASSING. WE WANTED TO MAKE THE COUNCIL WHERE THAT ALSO WOULD INCLUDE PAID FOR INSTALLED STRAIGHT SECURITY CAMERAS THAT EFFECTIVELY ARE LIKE A YEAR OR 
          TWO OLD. >> WHAT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WITH 
          THOSE CAMERAS REPORT TO? >> I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. DO YOU KNOW, CHIEF? 
          >> WE HAVE A FEED AT THE PD, BUT IT'S TURNED OFF RIGHT NOW. 
          >> I THINK THE QUESTION WAS MORE ABOUT WHAT OTHER AGENCIES HAVE 
          ACCESS TO THAT? >> I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER AGENCIES HAVE ACCESS TO THAT. THAT'S A CLOSE LOOP TO WHERE WE HAVE THE MONITORS SET UP TO BE ABLE TO VIEW. 
          >> IT'S LIKE A RING CAMERA ON YOUR HOUSE. 
          >> WHEN YOU HAVE A RING CAMERA, RING HAS ACCESS TO YOUR CAMERA. 
          DOES FLOCK HAVE ACCESS TO THESE CAMERAS? 
          >> I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          I WILL HAVE TO HAVE STAFF RESEARCH AND FIND OUT. 
          >> THAT TO ME IS THE CRITICAL QUESTION. 
          >> WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE CAMERAS READING THE PLATES? 
          >> A LDR. >> THE AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE 
          READER. >> AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READER. OKAY. 
          SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE-- 
          >> MAYOR, YOU WILL HAVE TO CALL UP ITEM 12.1, WHICH IS WHERE 
          THIS WILL HAVE ACTION. >> DO I HAVE TO DO THAT SINCE WE 
          TOOK IT OUT OF EXEC? >> GO AHEAD AND SAY MAKE A MOTION UNDER 121 FOR 11 E. 11.1E. 
          >> IT JUST SAYS TERMINATION. IT DOESN'T SAY ACTION. 
          GOOD CATCH. NO OBJECTIONS. 
          I'D LIKE TO BRING UP ITEM 12.1 NEXT. 
          HEARING NONE, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO 
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EXECUTIVE DECISION ITEMS ABOVE. 111 E, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXERCISE THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE ANY AGREEMENT PERTAINING TO THE USE OF THE FLOCK A LPR CAMERAS, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER FLOCK CAMERAS THAT YOU DETERMINE ARE ABLE TO BE ACCESSED BY ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF THAT. 
          >> SECOND. >> AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD BOTH YOU AND AC JONES. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS ARE WILLING TO LISTEN AND ENGAGE IN CONVERSATION. MAYOR, I SAT DOWN WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF. AND YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL. 
          I WAS TRYING TO JUST LISTEN AS WELL. 
          BUT YOU GUYS WERE REALLY OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          LOW MAYBE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH REMOVING, YOU GUYS WERE AT LEAST WILLING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AND THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE. 
          SO I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THERE IS A LOT-- NOT JUST WITH FLOCK, BUT THE WHOLE CONCEPT LIKE EXXON AND FLOCK. 
          HOW DOES THE SANGO? WE WERE SO PREOCCUPIED WITH SAFETY, FOCUSING ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT WE SHOULD, WE DIDN'T FOCUS ON WHETHER WE SHOULD. SO WE JUMPED THE GUN A LITTLE BIT ON THIS ONE. SO I'M NOT SAYING I'M OPPOSED TO ANY FUTURE CONVERSATIONS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE KEEPING THE SAFETY-- I'M NOT DONE. KEEPING THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND EVERYBODY AT THE TOP OF OUR MINDS. 
          AND YOU GUYS DO THAT, FOR SURE. I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          >> I APPRECIATE YOU. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL ADD TO THAT IS THAT WE VALUE ANY TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN PROVIDE THE HIGHEST QUALITY OF SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY. 
          BUT WE ALSO VALUE THE CONCERNS OUR COMMUNITY HAS. 
          IF IT MAKES SENSE, IT MAKES SENSE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I TELL OUR DEPARTMENT, IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE MY IDEA CATCHES THE BEST IDEA. AND YOU GET THAT WITH THE FEEDBACK OF EVERYONE IN THE DEPARTMENT, THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND IF THERE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS WE TAKE THAT SERIOUS, AND WE WANT TO TAKE ACTION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THE MOST EFFICIENT AND SAFE PRACTICES. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DIDN'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO DO IS CLEAR UP MISCONCEPTIONS. 
          THERE ARE SOME MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THAT PLATFORM. 
          AND THERE IS SOME VALUE THERE. BUT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS. 
          SO WE WEIGH THEM BOTH. >> ONE MORE THING. 
          >> I'M THE ONE WITH THE BELL THOUGH. 
          I'M ASSUMING THIS PASSES. I'M INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THE FINANCIAL IMPACT WOULD BE. AND IF THAT'S GOING TO FREE UP MONEY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR YOUR DEPARTMENT. 
          >> IN THE SCHEME OF THINGS IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY. 
          >> AS WE COME TOWARDS THE END OF THE CONTRACT IT PROBABLY WON'T BE. BUT... 
          >> ODDLY ENOUGH WE HAVE TWO CAMERAS. 
          WE HAVE A BUILD FOR $30,000 FOR ALL TEN CAMERAS NEXT MONTH. 
          TWO OF THOSE CAMERAS TERMINATE I WANT TO SAY DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, AND EIGHT TERMINATE DECEMBER OF 27, OR JANUARY 
          OF 28. >> IT'S ONE MONTH OR TWO MONTH 
          THAT WE CAN GET OUT AND NOT PAY? >> I THINK IT HAS TO GO TO THE OUTSIDE AGENCY FUNDING. IT WASN'T THAT YOU WERE OVER ON TIME, I WAS GOING TO CALL B.S. ON WHAT YOU SAID. 
          I LOOK AT SURVEILLANCE IN THE FUTURE AND I'M LIKE... 
          >> I SAID I'M OPEN TO FUTURE CONVERSATIONS. 
          BECAUSE CHIEF AND CHIEF ARE OPEN TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          >> ANYWAY. THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND DYER HEARING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE. I DID NOT WANT TO JUMP THE GUN WITH EYESORES LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S QUICK HITTING WITHOUT TAKING THE TIME. WE MET SIX OR EIGHT PEOPLE, AND AT FIRST THE CONVERSATION WAS KIND OF WHAT IS THE ISSUE? AND VERY GOOD. AND WE WENT THROUGH SOME STORIES ABOUT HOW SOME OF US HAVE BEEN SURVEILLED, WHAT OF THIS, WHAT OF THAT. THE WHAT IFS. 
          AND WHAT I APPRECIATE IS WE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS. 
          IF YOU TAKE THE CAMERAS AWAY THIS CAN HAPPEN. 
          AND YOU WILL JUST HAVE TO POLICE BETTER. 
          THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. BUT BASICALLY WE ALL AGREED THAT 
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WE HAVE TO POLICE PEOPLE THE WAY THE PUBLIC WANTS TO BE POLICED. 
          WHILE THE PUBLIC, SOME SEE THE VALUE, AND SOME DON'T, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY AGREES ON BOTH SIDES THAT THERE ARE THINGS TO BE CAREFUL OF. AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT WAS, THIS IS MAYBE WHAT CAME OUT WITH ALL OF US, NO HOUSE-- NO HOW STRANGE OF THE ARTICLES ARE, WE CAN ONLY FORCE WHAT OUR PEOPLE DO. 
          WE CAN'T ENFORCE THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AROUND THE NATION. 
          SO TO YOUR POINT, SAMUEL, THEY DO KNOW HOW MANY CRIMES HAVE BEEN SOLVED. THEY DO KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IT'S BEEN ACCESSED BY OUR PEOPLE. BUT OVERALL IT'S A TECHNOLOGY THAT IS NOT BEING TRAINED CORRECTLY. 
          BECAUSE OUT OF THE ONE POINT SOMETHING MILLION HITS THAT WE HAD IN PFLUGERVILLE, WE ALSO FOUND OUT THAT IF YOU'RE A LAZY OFFICER YOU CAN JUST HIT ONE BUTTON, AND IT ALMOST EQUATES TO GOING TO HOME DEPOT. AND YOU CAN GO TO GARDEN DEPARTMENT BECAUSE YOU LOOK AT PATIO TABLES. 
          AND I WAS LOOKING AT HUTTO. WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING IS GOING TO THE GENERAL SEARCH BAR AND HITTING THE ENTIRE HOME DEPOT DEPARTMENT, OR THEY ARE HITTING THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING. 
          BECAUSE THEY DO THAT, THAT'S WHY GRAND PRAIRIE HAS 35,000 HITS IN PFLUGERVILLE. IT'S BECAUSE THERE JUST LOOKING FOR A LICENSE PLATE. INSTEAD OF HITTING GRAND PRAIRIE THEY ARE JUST HITTING THE ENTIRE NATION. 
          BECAUSE THE INFORMATION IS NOT RELIABLE, THAT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO IS LOOKING, SPECIFICALLY AT HUTTO, AND IN MY MIND IT IS NOT BEING CONTROLLED WELL ENOUGH. 
          THEN YOU HAVE THE CONSPIRACY THEORY PEOPLE COME OUT AND GO-- THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT I DID NOT SEE ALL THE HITS IN PFLUGERVILLE. I.C.E. WAS NOT ON THERE. 
          THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY WAS NOT ON THERE. 
          THAT TELLS ME THEY ARE PROBABLY LOOKING, BUT PROBABLY JUST NOT RECORDING IT. BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT THAT FLOCK AND ALL THAT IS PART OF THE-- WHAT C SYSTEM FOR LICENSE PLATE WHEN YOU TYPE THE... [INDISCERNIBLE] 
          >> THIS STUFF IS TO AUDIT-- ALL TIED IN TO THESE GROUPS ANYWAY. 
          THERE IS SOMETHING THEY ARE TIED INTO. 
          >> I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT WE DID REFER TO. 
          >> BUT WHILE WE ARE TAKING TEN CAMERAS DOWN, THAT'S TEN PUBLICLY OWNED. I WOULD RATHER OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT BE IN CHARGE OF CAMERAS THAN 20 TO 30 IN THE PRIVATE PEOPLE'S HANDS THAT THEY WANTED HOME DEPOT IS NOT CONTROLLED BY HOME DEPOT IT ALL, IT'S CONTROLLED BY FLOCK. 
          SO WHEN WE WERE PART OF IT, OR WE STAY PART OF IT, WE HAVE ACCESS TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. 
          AND ONCE WE GET OUT WE DON'T. THERE WILL STILL BE 20 TO 30 CAMERAS OUT THERE. FLOCK TECHNOLOGY IS GROWING, AND DOLL WE ARE DOING IS, IN MY MIND, REEVALUATING. 
          I WOULD NOT LOOK AT ACXIOM-- IF YOU THINK FLOCK IS BAD, AXON IS A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL. WE ARE NOT QUITE AT WHAT IS IN YOUR. BUT I WAS JUST TELLING THE MAYOR PRO TEM UNFORTUNATELY IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE SOME MAJOR THING TO HAPPEN IN THE COUNTRY, LIKE 9/11, AND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO SAY, BUT ONLY IF WE HAD THIS TECHNOLOGY, WE COULD HAVE STOPPED IT. AND WE THINK WE HAVE A POLICE STATE NOW. THIS IS PROBABLY A SLOW DOWN OF WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY COME. BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE. THE INFORMATION, THE WILLI WILLINGNESS. AND THE WILLINGNESS TO SLEEP ON IT OVERNIGHT, AND WHEN THE CHIEF CALLED ME AND SAID, HEY,, I'VE BEEN THINKING ON THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CANCEL FOR PUBLIC CONCERNS. I THINK WE NEED TO DISCONTINUE USE. I WAS SO PROUD. 
          BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE EASILY HAVE SAID YOU ARE THE POLITICIANS, YOU NEED TO TAKE A BULLET FOR US AND GO ONE FIGHT THE BATTLE. BUT INSTEAD HE WAS LIKE NO. 
          THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE. SO I HOPE HE-- I HOPE WE GO WITH 
          YOUR RECOMMENDATION. >> AND I PIGGYBACK ON THAT? I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF PUBLICITY AROUND THERE. 
          THIS IS NOT A PUBLICITY MOVE, CERTAINLY. 
          AND HUTTO CERTAINLY IS NOT A BANDWAGON CITY AT ALL. 
          BY NO MEANS. BUT I DO THINK THAT THERE-- I THINK THEY PUBLICIZE THIS SO MUCH THAT IT HAS NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE ACTUAL POLICE OFFICERS THEMSELVES. 
          SO IN MY LINE OF INDUSTRY, I WANT TO SAY, I HOPE THE ANSWER IS THIS, I'M TRYING TO THROW YOU A SOFTBALL. 
          I TRULY BELIEVE THAT YOU GUYS RUN A WORLD-CLASS ORGANIZATION. 
          WITHOUT A DOUBT. WRITE A LONGS, IT'S BEEN AMAZING TO SEE WHAT YOU GUYS ACTUALLY DO. 
          BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY IF WE REMOVE THESE CAMERAS, DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT THAT THE CITY OF HUTTO CAN DO EXACTLY WHAT THEIR JOB IS AN POLICE PEOPLE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE THESE CAMERAS? 
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          >> THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS. 
          I WILL SAY WHAT I ALWAYS SAY. WE LOVE WHAT WE DO WHEN WE LOVE WHO WE DO IT FOR. AND WE WERE SOLVING CRIMES BEFORE WE HAD FLOCK CAMERAS, OR ANY OTHER TECHNOLOGY. 
          IT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE DELAYED AT TIMES, DEPENDING ON WHAT WERE DEALING WITH. BUT WE WERE DOING IT THEN, WE WERE DOING IT-- ARE DOING IT NOW. 
          TOMORROW IF THERE IS A CRIME THAT OCCURS THAT WE NEED TO ADD FIVE TO TEN DETECTIVES WORKING AT, WE WILL DO THAT. 
          WE WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES WITH WHATEVER WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE THE MISSION AND THE SUCCESSES THAT THIS COMMUNITY EXPECTS FROM A WORLD-CLASS DEPARTMENT. 
          >> I AGREE. THIS IS IN TAKING TOOLS AWAY FROM YOU. THIS IS JUST HELPING YOU GUYS TO BE GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU DO BEST, TAKING CARE OF US. 
          >> I HAVE A COMMENT. AND I MAYBE COMING FROM IT DIFFERENTLY AS A PARENT OR A WOMAN. 
          I HAVE A DIFFERENT SENSE OF SAFETY WHEN I WALKED THROUGH THE WORLD, AND HOW MY CHILDREN ARE WALKING THROUGH THE WORLD. 
          OR IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN A COMMUNITY, READY PARKING LOT AT NIGHT. SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF FLOCK, BECAUSE IT'S SHOWN UNFORTUNATELY TO BE A VERY FAULTY SYSTEM, AND WE DO NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO HAS ACCESS TO IT. AT THE SAME TIME, I DO NOT WANT TO BECOME A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF ADDITIONAL SAFETY LAYERS THAT MAKES IT-- NOT JUST TO SOLVE CRIME, BUT TO PREVENT IT. WE HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER WAY OF MAKING SURE WE SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT YOU BRING IN. BECAUSE YOU DO AN EXCELLENT JOB ALREADY, MAKING SURE THAT LOSING THIS TECHNOLOGY RIGHT NOW WOULD MAKE THE FLOCK SYSTEMS...  THEY HAVE PROVEN TO BE FAULTY AND I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING THEM. WE ARE NOT JUST ENDING THE CONVERSATION THERE, BUT WE ARE LOOKING UP WHAT DO WE DO INSTEAD. WE DON'T JUST WANT TO SOLVE CRIME, WE WANT TO CREATE A PLACE TO PREVENT IT. 
          ON THE WAY I EXPLAINED TO TO A NEIGHBOR OF MINE, SOME PEOPLE, AND THIS IS WHAT WE THINK OF AS ELECTED LEADERS. 
          SOME PEOPLE WILL COME HERE AND SAY THEY FEEL SAFER WHEN THEY SEE MORE COPS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          BECAUSE THEY FEEL LIKE THAT IS GOING TO PREVENT CRIME. 
          THEY FEEL MORE SAFE WHEN THEY SEE BUT A POLICE OFFICER ON THE CORNER IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN IF THAT IS JUST HELPING WITH TRAFFIC. ANOTHER PERSON MIGHT SAY I FEEL SAFE WHEN THERE ARE NO COPS AROUND. 
          FOR NOT WATCHING ME, TRY TO GET ME IN TROUBLE. 
          AND BOTH OF THOSE SIDES ARE VALID. 
          SO WE HAVE TO FIND THAT BALANCE. WHERE WE ARE NOT GIVING UP A REALLY CRITICAL PART OF CRIME PREVENTION AND BEING ABLE TO SOLVE CRIMES AND DO YOUR JOBS, BUT WE ARE ALSO NOT GETTING SO FAR AWAY FROM-- WE JUST WANT TO-- DON'T WANT TO BE SURVEILLED. BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS NO SENSE OF PRIVACY ANYMORE. —-DASH HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          YOU APPLY FOR A MORTGAGE, A CREDIT CARD. 
          YOU WANT TO ORDER SOMETHING UP THE INTERNET. 
          THEY GATHER YOUR INFORMATION. IT IS OUT THERE. 
          SO I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO THE IDEA THAT OUR INFORMATION SHOULD BE PRIVATE. I THINK THE INSURANCE COMPANY SELL IT, I THINK IT'S OUT THERE, THAT WE HAVE NO REAL PRIVACY. 
          WE HAVE A SENSE OF PRIVACY, AN IDEA, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY REAL PRIVACY ANYMORE BECAUSE OF TECHNOLOGY AND OUR OWN SENSE OF CONSUMERISM IS SO HEAVY THAT WE ARE JUST PUTTING OUR DATA OUT THERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO BUY STUFF. 
          OR EVEN JUST APPLY FOR A MORTGAGE. 
          SO I WANT THAT TO BE SAID. FOR THIS CONVERSATION, I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LOOK AT WHAT DO WE DO INSTEAD OF. 
          FOR NAUGHTILY SOLVING CRIME CARPET CRIME PREVENTION. 
          FLOCK IS FAULTY. BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS TODAY. I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED WE WILL LOOK AT ACXIOM, BUT WE ARE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT OTHER WAYS FOLLOWING YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND EXPERTISE IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE STILL BRINGING IN SOME TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY TO KEEP 
          US SAFE AS A COMMUNITY. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILMEMBER IS A BETA. FLOCK MAC IS AWARE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE PUBLIC AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HAVE WITH THEIR TECHNOLOGY AND THERE WORKING TO TRY TO CLOSE THOSE GAPS. AT SOME POINT THAT THEY MAY GET TO A POINT WHERE THE COMMUNITY AND THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL AND POLICE DEPARTMENT SAY OKAY WE HAVE RECEIVED POINT NOW WHERE THE ASSURANCES ARE THERE. ONE THING I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MESSIAH SPECKED A PRIVACY, COURTS HAVE MADE DECISIONS AND DETERMINATIONS THAT IT'S NOT A FOURTH AMENDMENT VIOLATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE-- THE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IS SO LOW WHEN YOU ARE ON A PUBLIC STREET, DRIVING A PUBLICLY ISSUED LICENSE PLATE ON A VEHICLE. SO THE EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IS NOT WHAT SOME PEOPLE MISUNDERSTAND. 
          BUT TO YOUR POINT, WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT WILL WE DO, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF STRATEGIES. WE DO AGREE, 100%, THAT HAVING 
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OFFICERS IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN BE THE NATURAL DETERRENT, WHERE PEOPLE SEE US, AND YOU HAVE THAT IMMEDIATE RESPONSE CAPACITY TO ANYTHING THAT OCCURS IN THE AREA, THAT IS A TRUE VALUE ADD. 
          AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE AS A CITY, AS WE GROW, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE HOPEFULLY ADDING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN. SO BEFORE YOU SACRIFICE AND GIVE UP SOMEWHERE YOU HAVE TO INCREASE IN OTHER PLACES, AND WE WILL EVALUATE OUR PRACTICES, OUR PATROL PATTERNS. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE OUR TRAINING PATTERNS AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE FOUR DISTRICTS THAT ARE ROBUST WHERE OUR OFFICERS ARE WORKING EACH SECTOR IN THE CITY TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE RESPONSE CAPACITY THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY. IN ADDITION TO THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THE FOUR SECTORS. OFFICERS ARE KNOWN VERY WELL BY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE SECTORS SO IF THERE ARE ISSUES THEY CAN CONTACT THE OFFICER DIRECTLY. 
          THEY SEE THAT OFFICER AND KNOW THAT OFFICER. 
          WE WERE NOT USING FLOCK TO A LARGE DEGREE. 
          WHEN WE HAD THE HEAVY BURGLARY INCIDENTS TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AGO. WE WERE NOT USING FLOCK. 
          WHAT WE'RE USING WAS CITIZENS. OFFICERS AND TACTICAL PATROL. 
          BEING OUT IN AREAS. USING OFFICERS THAT WERE UNDERCOVER AT TIMES, IN UNMARKED VEHICLES. 
          THERE ARE STRATEGIES, SOMETIMES THEY WORK WELL, SOMETIMES THEY MISS THE MARK. ONE THING THAT I WILL SAY IS I DON'T CARE HOW MANY OFFICERS WE HAVE ON THE STREETS, ONE THING WE WON'T BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH FLOCK IS BEING ABLE TO RECORD THE LICENSE PLATE OF THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THAT COME THROUGH. 
          WE HAVE TO SEE THE VEHICLES. AND THAT'S HOW WE WILL DETERMINE IF THIS VEHICLE BASED ON WHAT WE SEE, IF THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE TO PULL THE VEHICLE OVER, AS OPPOSED TO GETTING A FLOCK HIT. 
          SAYING THERE IS A STOLEN VEHICLE COMING IN FROM TAYLOR AND IT WAS JUST ALERTED ON ONE OF YOUR FLOCK CAMERAS. 
          >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL CAN I RECOMMEND TO ADD TO THE MOTION THAT YOU AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND NOTICE UNDER THE AGREEMENT TO FLOCK, AND ALSO AUTHORIZING HIM TO PAY ANY 
          REMOVAL FEE THAT IS REQUIRED? >> COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS? 
          >> YES. FOR ME THERE ARE TWO CLASSES OF CAMERAS HERE. THERE'S THE ONES THAT CAN BE ACCESSED BY ANY OUTSIDE AGENCY WITH OR WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION, WITH OR WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE. THEN THERE IS THE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS THAT ARE CLOSED-LOOP. IF AN EFFECT OF THIS MOTION YOU LOSE THAT LATTER CORRIDOR-- CATEGORY OF SURVEILLANCE, WHAT IS THE CITY LOOKING AT TWO-- AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REPLACE AND UPGRADE THAT PURE SURVEILLANCE THING THAT IS CLOSED LOOP, INTERNAL ONLY TO THE CITY OF HUTTO? 
          >> ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER PICKED THIS QUESTION IS ONE OF THE REASONS I WALKED UP. BECAUSE THERE WAS A QUESTION POSED SIMILARLY. BUT MAYBE DIFFERENTLY PHRASED. 
          THE WAY THAT IT IS CURRENTLY SET UP AS YOU HAVE YOUR LICENSE PLATE READER, FLOCK CAMERAS. THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT THE PUBLIC HAS GREAT CONCERN WITH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS GREAT CONCERN WITH, AND WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING TONIGHT. 
          THEN THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED THE OPERATING SYSTEM. 
          THE VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM. ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ASKED. THAT HAS THE TITLE OF FLOCK. 
          BUT THERE BACK END VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM IS NOT A LICENSE PLATE READER. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR CLOSED LOOP CAMERAS THAT PLUG INTO THAT OS, WHICH ARE ALSO FLOCK, WHICH WE HAVE IN OUR PARKS. THOSE ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE THE SAME WAY THAT THE LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE. 
          STAFF WILL DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE CONTRACTS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ONE COMPANY TO ENSURE THAT THAT IS THE CASE PER THE MOTION. BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S NOT THE SAME SYSTEM. WE DID HAVE OUR LICENSE PLATE READERS PLUGGED INTO THAT OPERATING SYSTEM BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY-- THAT'S THE USER INTERFACE, ESSENTIALLY FOR US TO PLUG-IN. SO THEY ARE SEPARATE. 
          IT IS OUR INTENTION TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION WITH THAT LICENSE PLATE READER NATIONAL REGISTRY THAT FOLKS HAVE IDENTIFIED. BUT IF IT IS, THEN WE WILL REPLACE THE CAMERAS, AND THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL ACTION IN THE FUTURE. BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE A 
          BUDGETARY REQUIREMENT. >> JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I THINK SOMETIMES PEOPLE MISUNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A NETWORK SEARCH, WHERE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS SOMEBODY CAN PUT THAT OUT AND SEARCH THE ENTIRE NETWORK. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GET TO THE 
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MILLIONS. THEY HAVE THE ORGANIZATION SEARCH. AND THAT MEANS THOSE INSIDE THE AGENCY SEARCHING FOR SPECIFIC VEHICLES THAT MAY HAVE A CRIMINAL VALUE IN HUTTO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID WAS AS WE STARTED IDENTIFYING PRIOR TO US TAKING THE STEP BACK, WE MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE SAID THESE SEARCHES DON'T LOOK RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S SCALABLE. WE REDUCED THE ACCESS POINTS AND WE FURTHER DECIDED TO REDUCE IT TO WHERE OUR CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DIVISION, THE DETECTIVES HAD THE ACCESS. 
          AND WE SCALED THAT BACK TO WHERE WE LIMITED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE DEPARTMENT WHO CAN ACCESS IT. 
          SO THERE ARE STRATEGIES THAT AGENCIES ARE USING TO KEEP THE VALUE OF THAT TOOL. AND IT JUST COMES DOWN TO WHAT YOU FEEL IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE FOR A COMMUNITY AND DATE DEPARTMENT, AND THE VALUE OF THAT RESOURCE. 
          >> TO ME, HAVING THAT CLOSED SYSTEM, OUR OWN SELF-CONTROL IS SO POWERFUL. BUT I CAN ALSO SEE WITH SISTER JURISDICTIONS, MAYBE YOU'RE DOING A CHASE ACROSS COUNTY LINES, OR WHATEVER. THOSE SISTER AGENCIES HAVE THE ABILITY AND REALTIME ACCESS, I'M NOT SAYING-- I'M NOT A CRIMINAL LAWYER, BUT NOT NECESSARILY HAVING A COURT ORDER TO RELEASE THAT INFORMATION. WE ARE JUST SHOWING YOU THIS. 
          I'M AGREEING WITH THAT. I JUST HOPE-- IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU 
          ARE ADDRESSING THAT AS WELL. >> YES. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. SOME OF OUR LAW FORCE AGENCIES AROUND THE AREA IN CENTRAL TEXAS ARE JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY PUT THE GEO-FENCE AROUND THOSE AGENCIES HERE IN CENTRAL TEXAS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING IT NATIONWIDE. 
          >> I'M NOT A CRIMINAL LAWYER. >> OR ANY LAWYER. 
          >> I'VE BEEN IN NEED OF ONE AT ONE TIME. 
          BUT THAT WAS A DIFFERENT CENTURY. 
          >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> -- 
          >> NEXT WE HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 9:28 P.M. 
          ITEM 11.1. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE...  INCLUDING RELATED PROVISIONS AND AGREEMENTS FOR A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND RELEASE BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND MAPPING LLC. 
          HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS TO IMPROVE THE AMPHITHEATER AND ADAM OR GREEN PARK. SALES TAX SHARING INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS AND PROPOSE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR FIRE SERVICES WITH THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICT. 11.2. 
          RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 551.071 AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 551.072, 551.087, RELATED TO PENDING ECONOMIC DEVELOP IN PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE HUTTO ECONOMIC TO BELLMAN CORPORATION, OR THE CITY OF HUTTO, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO CORE PROJECT, COTTONWOOD PROJECT PROPERTIES, PROJECT ORCHARD, PROJECT MAY STROH, AND PROJECT 106C STREET. 
          AIRE TO GO? AND. 
          [12. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION]
          >> 1009. NO ACTION WAS TAKEN IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. I'VE TENS OR ONE. 
          POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS 
          LISTED ABOVE. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. 
          >> YOU WANT TO DO ONE. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A 
          MOTION. >> ALL RIGHT. 
          >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO POST THE AUDIO TO THE CITY WEBSITE, WITHOUT PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION FOR ALL ESD SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS. SO THAT ANYBODY CAN GO SEE, ANY TIME THAT WANT, FULL TRANSPARENCY. 
          >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MEMBERS, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MO MORRIS. 
          >> THAT'S IN ADDITION TO ONE SEE. 
          >> D DELTA. >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING ON, ALL THE VOTE. 
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          >> MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO. I WILL MAKE A MOTION BASED ON 111 A, DIRECTING STAFF TO SEND A LETTER TO THE COUNTY REGARDING. 
          >> ANNEXATION OF THE COUNTY ROADS WITHIN THE GATEWAY 
          PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. >> SECOND. 
          >> SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. 
          >> AND THE ADDITIONAL ANNEXATION NOTICE LETTERS. 
          THE COUNTY REQUIRES A 61 DAY NOTICE. 
          BUT THE OTHER ENTITIES IN THAT AREA ARE A 30 DAY NOTICE IS. 
          BUT IT'S GOOD FOR STAFF TO GO AHEAD AND START THE PROCESS 
          BASED ON THE DEVELOPERS REQUEST. >> FOR THE COUNTY, IN CASE YOU ARE LISTENING, THE INTENT IS TO TAKE MAINTENANCE ON THE ROAD AS WELL. IF THEY DON'T TRY TO BLOCK US ON THIS ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, ALL THE VOTE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR 11 1B TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND A SURVEY AND 
          MAPPING LLC. >> SECOND. 
          >> MOTION BY MAYOR SNYDER, SECOND BY COUNCILMAN KEANE. 
          PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> BEFORE YOU COMPLETE YOUR VOTE, AND YOU ADD AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT? I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF IT. 
          >> DOES ANYBODY WANT TO RESEND THEIR VOTE OR CHANGE IT? ALL RIGHT. THIS MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT A LETTER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT REQUESTS AN AG OPINION ON THE USE OF HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUNDS TO APPROVE THE AMPHITHEATER AT THE PARK. 
          >> SECOND. >> THAT WILL BE SIGNED BY THE 
          CITY MANAGER WERE MEEKLY. >> I'LL TRY TO GET IT FOR-- DRAFTED TO BRING IT BACK NEXT EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR COUNCIL TO 
          REVIEW AND APPROVE SENDING IT. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. 
          >> MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. 
          >> MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO. DID I MISS ANY? 
          [13. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS]
ALL RIGHT. THAT BRINGS US UP TO 13.1. 
          GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL. 
          ALL RIGHT. HEARING NONE, WE HAVE 13.2. 
          >> GO-AHEAD. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FOR GENERAL COMMENTS, BUT TO WORK WITH COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA, AND STAFF, TO SEE ABOUT POSSIBLE PERKS FOR 
          FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. >> THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS FOR THE HUTTO RESIDENT THAT APPROACHED ME AT THE 9/11 MEMORIAL STAIR CLIMB, ASKING 
          ABOUT BROOKLYN'S NEIGHBORHOOD. >> THAT IS MORE A FUTURE AGENDA 
          ITEM. >> I'M KEEPING TRACK OF THESE. 
          WE LOST SOME OF THESE. SO...  ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER GENERAL COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT. 13.2. 
          FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I WILL BRING UP ONE, DISCUSS 
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POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE SANTA CLAUS CRAWL GOING TO A OUTSIDE AGENCY. AND ANOTHER ONE, DISCUSS POSSIBLE ACTION ON DIRECTING STAFF TO SECURE WEB ADDRESS FOR THE HUTTO FIRE DEPARTMENT. ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NOTHING
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