[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER] [00:00:07] >> IT IS 7:04 P.M., WE WILL CAL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. ROLL CALL, COUNCILMEMBER REYNOLDS. >> HERE. >> COUNCILMEMBER THORTON. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORRIS. >> COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA. MAYOR PORTERFIELD. NEXT, PLEASE RAISE FOR THE INDICATION THAT WILL BE LED BY MR. DANNY COOK. >> LET'S PRAY EVERYONE PRIDE FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS EVENING AND ORDERED WE THANK YO FOR LIFE WE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND BEING ABLE TO BE HERE. WE THANK YOU THAT YOUR DESIRE I THE VERY BEST FOR EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, EVERYONE IN THIS GREAT CITY IN WE JUST ASK THAT YOU AS THE GOD OF ALL TRUTH, IT WOULD GUIDE TONIGHT AND GIVE OU COUNCIL WISDOM AND DISCERNMENT AND THE VERY BEST FOR EVERYONE THAT CALLS HUTTO HOME. WE ASK ALL THIS THROUGH THE NAM OF JESUS, AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH I STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. [5. PUBLIC COMMENT] >> NEXT TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHEN IT GETS DOWN TO THE YELLOW YET 30 SECONDS, WHEN IT GETS TO THE RIGHT YOUR TIME WILL BE A. FIRST UP WE HAVE HELEN KAUFMAN. >> I LIVE IN EMORY FARMS HOA OVER THE WAY. I'M JUST EXPRESSING CONCERN TO THE BOARD. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL NEW APP FOR THE POLICE AND SAFETY AND SECURITY AND REPORTING PROBLEMS AROUND TOWN, THAT'S GREAT IF YOUR SOMEBODY THAT USES TECHNOLOGY AND HAS ACCESS TO INTERNET ET CETERA, WE HAVE A LOT OF CITIZENS IN OUR CITY THA ARE NOT. THEY ARE A FEW THAT STILL DON'T HAVE COMPUTER SPRAYED I'M HAVIN A PROBLEM WHEN I NEED TO CALL U SOMETHING IN AN EMERGENCY I DON'T HAVE TIME TO OPEN UP AN APP OR HOPE IT CONNECTS IF THERE'S BEEN EMERGENCIES ARE THINGS I'VE SEEN WHETHER SOMEBODY DRAGRACING, THEY'RE SPINNING OUT, WHETHER IT IS SOMEONE THAT NEARLY PUSHED MERELY PUSHED ME OFF THE ROAD RIGHT WHERE THE TWO LANES HERE MERGE, AND THEN THEY GOT TAKEN AWAY IN HANDCUFFS, THANKFULLY THE CUBS DID RESPOND WHEN I CAL ENDED SOME OTHER THINGS, BUT I HAD TO WAIT ONLINE. IT WASN'T ALIVE PERSON THAT ANSWERED, I WAS DEFERRED TO THE COUNTY, WE DON'T HAVE A NUMBER THAT'S WELL-PUBLICIZED AND AVAILABLE FOR THOSE, PLEASE MAK THOSE THINGS ACCESSIBLE TO CITIZENS THAT DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE ACCESS AVAILABILITY. WE DON'T WANT TO SIT THERE FOR FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE THEY'RE CUSSING THEM OUT THAT ULTIMATEL NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT IN HANDCUFFS FOR THE CITIZENS PROTECTION NOT JUST MINE. I HAD A VERY BAD EXPERIENCE, AN I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY ELSE TO G THROUGH SUCH A THING. I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER CHECKING THAT OUT, PLEASE,. >> CAN YOU GUYS WORK TO PUBLICIZE AN EMERGENCY NUMBER. CAN KEEP YOU HAVE A NONEMERGENC NUMBER THAT IS MONITORED 24 HOURS A DAY THROUGH DISPATCH'S. CLASS PHONE NUMBER IS 51 TO 846 TO TO TO TWO. I THINK WE HAVE NOTED BIT SO WE WILL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT EASIER TO FIND. IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, 911. ABSOLUTELY. BUT THIS ISN'T QUITE 911 LEVEL, BUT YOU STILL NEED TO TALK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THAT WIL GET YOU TO DISPATCH. >> THAT WAS THE NUMBER I CALL CALLED AND I LISTEN TO DISPATCH. >> IT IS AS NON- EMERGENCY AND IT'S GOING TO DISPATCH, IF THER ARE 911 CALLS THAT ARE ANSWERIN AT THAT TIME, YOU'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOUR CALL TO BE ANSWERED BECAUSE IT'S COMING THROUGH THAT NONEMERGENCY WRAPPED GREAT IT SHOULDN'T BE LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> THERE YOU GO. [00:05:07] THANK YOU. >> THAT IS IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT . WE WILL MOVE ON TO SIX WETLAND, [6.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments.] CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, AND OR REMOVALS T CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASKFORCES, CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS. [6.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, Fire Safety, CIP, Community Services Commission).] HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON T SIX-POINT TOO. CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATION OR UPDATES FROM CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE. COMMUNITY SERVICE. FIRE SAFETY. CIP. >> EVENT AND JUST A QUICK UPDATE . THERE WAS SOME QUESTION ABOUT THE QUORUM FOR THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMISSION IN I DID FIN THE ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE THAT'S LISTED ON THE CITY WEBSITE IS NOT THE CORRECT ONE, I WENT INTO FRANKLIN, IT IS CORRECT THERE. YOU WANT TO GO TO MAKE SURE THERE AREN'T OTHER CHANGES, BUT THAT IS ONE ITEM THAT'S BEEN CORRECTED. WE ARE LOOKING AT REWRITING THI SECTION TO TALK TO DO 93 I WILL LET COUNCILPERSON ZEPEDA AND COUNCILPERSON WITH THESE REFERENCES FOR ALL THE DOCUMENT THE CITY SIGNED. THE ORDINANCE IN AND THE STRATEGIC PLANNING, SO THAT IS PARTIALLY COMPLETE AND I WILL HAVE THAT COMPLETE, WE ARE LOOKING TO MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICE COMMISSION AT THEIR NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 20TH. AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OTHER. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE ARE UPDATING THEIR REASON FO THAT AS WE WANT TO BE VERY CLEA ABOUT WHAT EXPECTATIONS AND FOR PURPOSES OF THE COMMISSION. MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE OVERALL HUTTO STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE REWORDIN WILL SHOW THE CITY DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ALL THOSE PROTECTED CLASSES. THAT'S A BIG IMPROVEMENT BECAUS RIGHT NOW IT READS DIFFERENTLY AND THAT MADE IT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. THAT IS ONE OF THE MAJOR CHANGES . I KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON WAS DOING ANOTHER REVIEW OF SOME OF THE WAY THAT WE SUGGESTED IT BE UPDATED AND REWRITTEN. FOR MOVING IN A GREAT DIRECTION. WHY DOES THIS COMMISSION EVEN EXISTS. WE ARE ALSO CLARIFYING THE REPORTING, THAT WAS THE IDEA THAT CAME UP RIGHT I THINK WE ALL AGREED WE WANT AT LEAST TWO TIMES A REPORT, ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE OUR AND ONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR SO WE HAVE MORE VIGOROUS DEBATE AND DISCUSSION BETWEEN WHAT THE COMMISSION IS WORKING ON AND WHAT COUNCIL EXPECTATIONS ARE. SO INCREASING THE EXPECTATION THAT MISSION REPORT TO COUNCIL TO TERMS YOUR IN ADDITION TO SE ATTENDING THEIR MEETINGS MORE FREQUENTLY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING DONE BY THE COMMISSION IS FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE IN A WAY THAT THE COUNCIL ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE GAVE AND WE AR EXPECTING FROM THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION. COUNCILMEMBER THORNTON? KATIE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU GUYS HAD. WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE BEST ALIGNMENT WE CAN INTO AND BETWEEN THE ORDINANCE, THE STRATEGIC PLANS, AND THE ACTUAL ACTIVITIES OF THE BOARD. THAT IS LEGAL AND THAT'S WHAT W ARE WORKING TOWARDS. >> THANK YOU. >> AR, IS THIS A PLACE WHERE I WILL UPDATE OR IS THAT 12 DOT SEVEN? >> IF YOU WANT TO. >> THIS IS FOR SUBCOMMITTEE. >> DON'T KNOW WHERE WE DO THAT. >> I AM DULY EASY IS ON I AM TH LIAISON OF THIN CENTENNIAL COMMITTEE. THE PARTNERSHIP GOING ON IS AMAZING PER EIGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE COMING TOGETHER, [00:10:02] THERE'S A LOT OF SPONSORSHIPS, THE SWAG, THE ENTERTAINMENT. THE KID STUFF. I'M EXPECTING SOMETHING AMAZING GOING ON ON NOVEMBER 14TH. I WAS ASKED TO LOOK INTO, I DID WRITE ON THE MESSAGE BOARDS YOU CAN JUST READ, YOU CAN'T COMMENT , THAT THERE IS SOME QUESTION IN THE ORDINANCE OR EXCUSE ME, THE RESOLUTION THAT CREATED THIS IT TALKS ABOUT THE COMMITTEES PURPOSE IS TO ADVISORY IN NATURE AND ALSO PRODUCE PLANS AND FUNDING. IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT OPERATIONAL COST, SO RIGHT NOW THE HPD, THAT STAFFING HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF BY SPONSORSHIP, I WILL HAVE SOMEONE COME UP FOR THAT, BUT THE FIGURES ON THE OPERATIONAL STAFF. I THINK BACK TO THE FOURTH OF JULY EVENT WHICH WAS AN AMAZING EVENT, WELL COORDINATED BY THE CITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, HAVING PARK STAFF ON-SITE FOR PARKING, GATEKEEPING, ANY TYPE OF PORTING SERVICES ON THE SIDES , THAT REMAINS NOT UNDERSTOOD, SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, IF I MAY TAKE FIVE MINUTE OR SO TO HAVE MISTER MIKE GORDO COME UP TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AND MR. CERVANTES AS WELL? >> ARE WE GETTING OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE CAN DO ON THIS? >> YES. >> WE ARE? >> BUT YOU COULD CALL THE ITEM UP IF YOU WANTED TO. >> IS IT OKAY IF I DO THAT? >> ABSOLUTELY. >> IS THERE ANY OTHER COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE TYPE ITEMS ON THIS ONE? IF THERE IS NO OBJECTIONS, WE [12.7. Discussion and possible action regarding City support and responsibility for the Hutto Sesquicentennial Celebration. (Sara Cervantes)] WILL PULL 12.7 UP. 12.7, POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING CITY SUPPORT AND RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE HUTTO SETS WHEN CENTENNIAL CELEBRATION. >> EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMEMBE MORRIS JUST OUTLINED IS VERY ACCURATE FROM THE INCEPTION OF THE 150TH CELEBRATION IT'S BEEN THE UNDERSTANDING OF STAFF AND THE ASSUMPTION WE WORKED UNDER THAT THIS IS THAT NON- CITY EVENT, BUT WITH QUITE A BIT OF CITY SUPPORT SO IN TERMS OF NAVIGATING THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, LINKING WITH VENDORS, PROCESSING PAVEMENTS, WE HAVE A MEMBER OF STAFF HAS BEEN VERY ACTIVE WITH THAT. AS WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE EVENT, WE ARE LOOKING FOR A FINALIZATION OF DIRECTION IN TERMS OF HAVING BOOTS ON THE GROUND THE DATE OF FREIGHT ARE PARKS DIRECTOR IS MORE THAN WILLING TO SOLICIT OUR EMPLOYEE TO BE THERE ON SOMETHING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT AN ADVOCATE FOR IS BECAUSE THAT IS A SHORTENED WEEK WITH THE HOLIDAY ANY STAFF MEMBERS WORKING WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR WORKING OVERTIME FOR WORKING THAT HOLIDAY. IT WOULD BE WITHIN THEIR 40 HOURS FOR THE WEEK. WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR THAT GENERAL DIRECTION IF WE WANT PARK STAFF TO BE ON THE GROUND HELPING, IT WAS ALWAYS OUR ANTICIPATION THERE WERE ENOUGH MEMBERS OF THE 150TH TO BE ON THE GROUND TO HELP RUN THE EVENT . I THINK WITH THE FOURTH OF JULY WE HAVE MAYBE SIX STAFF MEMBERS RUN THAT ENTIRE CONTENTS, SO IT'S NOT A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE NEEDED, BUT WE ARE SEEKING THAT DIRECTION SO WE CA TAKE THOSE STEPS PROACTIVELY AN BE READY TO HELP WITH A GREAT EVENT IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT IS GIVEN. >> COUNCIL, THE RESOLUTION NUMBER ESTABLISHES IN SECTION TWO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CREATES WHICH SHALL BE ADVISORY IN NATURE AND UNDER SECTION THREE FOR PURPOSE, IT SAYS THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PLAN FOR AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE CELEBRATION. I KNOW THERE'S ALMOST TWO PAGES OF THIS COMMITMENT NONE OF THIS TALKED ABOUT OPERATIONS ON THE DATE OF THE EVENT. I KNOW THIS IS A RESOLUTION. I GUESS MY PURPOSE IS TO CLEAR UP SO DIRECTION TO CITY STAFF T FUND THE DAY OF OPERATION IN LIKE KIND AS WHAT WAS PROVIDED ON JULY 4TH. AGAIN, OUTSIDE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES AND HPD. AND A COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? PICKY I THINK YOU POSTED IT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, I READ THROUGH IT AND I GOT THE SAME UNDERSTANDING, THERE WAS NO [00:15:02] MENTION THAT THE COMMITTEE VOLUNTEERS THAT WERE TAKING ON THE PLANNING OF THE EVENT IN TH FUND-RAISING OF IT WERE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO PAY TO DO THE OPERATIONAL PART. I ALSO PUT ON THERE, I WASN'T PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHEN THE COUNCIL ORIGINALLY DECIDED TO GO FORTH WITH IT, BUT THE WA THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, IT DOESN'T SAY THEY'D ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE, THAT WE WERE HOLDING THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR TH OPERATIONS THE DAY OF. IT READS, AT LEAST TO ME IS THA THERE WOULD BE SOME TYPE OF A MINIMAL STAFF SUPPORT FOR THEM. >> THANK YOU. >> I AM PETER GORDON. I AM ON THE COMMITTEE AND SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF A BACKGROUND, OUR ASSUMPTION IN UNDERSTANDING AS A COMMITTEE HA ALWAYS BEEN THAT WE WERE KIND O BASICALLY HELD TO WHATEVER THE RESOLUTION SAID, THAT WE WERE ADVISORY IN NATURE IN WE WERE T HELP RESPOND. IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO WHEN SOME OF OUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS WERE MEETING THE STAFF THAT WE WERE INFORMED THAT WE WERE RESPONSIBLE TO EXECUTE, AND THAT WAS REALLY TH FIRST TIME WE REALLY REALIZE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A DISCONNEC AND UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN US AN STAFF. WE IMMEDIATELY BROUGHT IT TO TH COUNCILMEMBERS ATTENTION, HE BROUGHT IT UP TO THE CITY MANAGER SO WE SAID WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SUCCESSFUL EVENT IN WE ARE NOT AS A COMMITTEE EQUIPPED TO RUN THAT EVENT. WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PLAN IT , I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN PLANNING AND RAISING THE MONEY, BUT WE'RE NOT PREPARED O EQUIPPED TO ACTUALLY RUN THE EVENT AND BE THAT GROUP THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. WITH THAT SAID AND SARAH HAD MENTIONED ABOUT OVERTIME AND GETTING PEOPLE TO SERVE THERE, WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AT FUNDRAISING. WE DO HAVE EXTRA FUNDS AVAILABL AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AS A COMMITTEE TO WHERE IF THERE IS CONCERN WITH ANY EXTRA COSTS FO EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO GET TIM AND A HALF FOR OVERTIME OR WHATEVER, WE ARE WILLING TO TAK SOME OF THE BUDGETS THAT'S BEEN SET ASIDE FOR THE BUDGET TO COVER THAT COST IF THAT IS A CONCERN AND IF THAT IS NEEDED. BF EXTRA FUNDS AVAILABLE FOR THAT. >> THANK YOU. WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM CITY MANAGER IS THAT THESE COSTS WOULD BE IN THE ORDER OF 1500- $2,500, LESS THAN $3,000. THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT IF W ARE GOING TO SPEND UP TO $3,000 THAT COULD BE USED FOR ENTERTAINMENT, AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I WOULD RATHER THAT THE CELEBRATION COMMITTEE, THE MONE THEY HAD RAISED, I'D RATHER IT BE TARGETED TO THAT. I APPRECIATE YOUR OFFER AS AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBER AND AS A CITIZEN HERE, THAT THEY WOULD PAY FOR THAT, BUT AGAIN, THIS I A CITY FUNCTION. IT'S NOT LIKE US TO BE SUPPORTIVE, IT'S A CITY EVENT T MY UNDERSTANDING. I WOULD WISH TO, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LET ANYBODY ELSE, ON THAT. >> I WOULD LIKE THE MONEY THAT THE MONEY THAT THEY FUNDRAISING. YOU GET WHEN SHE INSTEAD YOU OW 150, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT AGAIN UNTIL 175 OR SOMETHING SO I'D RATHER THE MONEY THEY RAISE GO TO WHERE WORD KIDS AND THE EVENT AND IF IT HAS TO COMES OU OF THE CITY'S POCKET A LITTLE BIT, IT'S NOT MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >> I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AS WELL. >> I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTIO TO REDIRECT STAFF TO FUND THE OPERATIONS OF THE NOVEMBER 4TH SESQUICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION SIMILAR TO THE FOURTH OF JULY. WHEN IT COMES TO GAIT, PARKING, JANITORIAL, SERVICES, ON-SITE AND NO, LET ME START OVER. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CITY STAFF TO COME UP WITH THE FUNDS TO PROVIDE OPERATIONAL STAFF AT THE DAY OF THE EVENT, NOVEMBER 14TH. >> I SECONDED. >> OPERATIONAL STAFF, BY THAT YOU MEAN PORTAL SERVICES, SECURITY. THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE DONE FOR CITY EVENTS. >> EXACTLY. >> IS THAT CLEAR, CITY MANAGER? >> S. [00:20:03] >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THEY WILL NOT SPEND ALL OF THE FUNDS, AND SINCE THE HOT FUNDS WERE MATCHED , DO WE PULL FROM THE DONATED FUNDS FIRST AND THEN IF THEY DON'T SPEND ENOUGH, THEM THEY PUT THE HOT FUNDS BACK AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUS THOSE THINGS TO IMPACT THE BUDGET HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THAT. EVEN THOUGH WE ARE PROVIDING TH MANPOWER IN WE WILL DECLARE IT AS A PREMIUM HOLIDAY SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET OVERTIME INSTEAD OF LOSING OUT ON HAVING A DAY OFF, WE CAN DO THOSE SORT OF THINGS. I JUST KIND OF NEED TO KNOW IF I'M ADDING THE MONEY BACK OR WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE EXCESS DOLLARS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT CAN BE HANDLED IN THIS MOTION, BUT IT' AN IMPORTANT ASPECTS. >> LET SAY THEY RAISE 23 AND TH COUNCIL MATCHED 20, SO THEY HAV 43 BUDGETED, BUT THEY SPEND 41. IS EIGHT TO THOUSAND OF THE DONATED MONEY THAT GOES BACK OR IS THAT THE HOT FUNDS THAT GO BACK OR IS IT SPLIT 50-50? >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUS MY CONCERN IS I THOUGHT THE 43,000 OR WHATEVER, WAS TO FUND THE WHOLE EVENT. I GUESS WE NEED TO CLARIFY WHAT STAFF IS INVOLVED IN. IT WAS NEVER MY INTENTION THAT THEY WOULD FUND RAISE A BECAUSE THE FUN STUFF IN THERE WHEN IT CAME TO EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE TO PAY THAT BECAUSE THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A EVENT THE COST 43,000, YOU CAN HAVE AN EVENT THAT MAKES COST 30,000. >> I DO THINK THEY ARE COVERED EVERYTHING OTHER THAN THE STAFF SUPPORT FOR THE DATE OF, UP TO THIS POINT. WE ARE ESTIMATING AROUND $2,000 IN LABOR FOR THAT. SO IT'S NOT MASSIVE SCALE, BUT DON'T KNOW WHETHER--I DON'T KNO WHAT TO DO WITH THE DOLLARS IF THEY DON'T SPEND EVERY DOLLAR HOW TO ATTRIBUTE THAT. IT'S IS PROBABLY A DIFFERENT ISSUE. SO ANY EXTRA MONEY NEEDS TO PAY FOR THAT TOO. >> THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN OVERAG BECAUSE WHATEVER YOU SAY THE COST IS AS THE COST RATE TO ME IT'S A LITTLE CONCERNING THAT WERE COMING UP A MONTH AWAY, AN WE'VE GOT $2,000 WORTH OF EMPLOYEE COST THAT WE READ IT NEEDS TO BE FACTORED IN AT SOME POINT WHERE YOU HAVE A BUDGET FOR THE EVENT. DEAR PORTA POTTY SPECS TO GET THERE IS THE BATHROOMS IN THE NOT IN THE BUILDING, INSIDE THE AMPHITHEATER. THERE IS THE PUBLIC RESTROOMS THERETO. >> DO WE BRING EXTRA FOR JULY 4TH? >> YES. >> I DON'T KNOW WHETHER LOGISTICS ARE. >> THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, WE HAVE LOT OF THING TO FIGURE OUT. >> JUST TO CLARIFY, WE AS A COMMITTEE HAVE NOT PLANNED ON ANY LOGISTICS AS FAR AS HOW MAN PORTA POTTY'S WE NEED, WE HAD ALWAYS ASSUMED THAT STAFF WAS DOING THAT, OUR ASSUMPTION WAS THAT WE WERE ADVISING COUNCIL, ADVISING STAFF ON WHAT OUR NEED WERE, AND THAT HERE IS WHAT THE EVENT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND HERE IS HOW MUCH MONEY WE RAISED , BUT OUR ASSUMPTION UP UNTIL TWO WEEKS AGO WAS THIS WA NO DIFFERENT THAN FOURTH OF JUL OR ANY OTHER EVENT, THAT STAFF WAS WORKING ON PORTA POTTY'S, THEIR WORKING ON PEOPLE BEING THERE, PEOPLE DIRECTING, THAT KIND OF STUFF. I THINK THAT'S WHY WERE AT THE 11TH HOUR RIGHT NOW. >> THAT'S MY ASSUMPTION TO. MY OTHER ASSUMPTION WAS THAT TH MONEY RAISED PAYS FOR ALL OF THAT TO WHERE IT'S NOT LIKE THE MONEY THAT PASTE ALL THE FUN STUFF INTENT UNTIL IT COMES TO SECURITY AND TOILETS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I THINK UK SHOULD BE RESPONSIBL FOR THE STUFF YOU LOGISTICALLY HANDLE OF IT ALL THE TIME, BUT THE JULY 4TH, THERE'S JUST ONE EVENT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THINKING THAT SAME WAY? BECAUSE YOUR MOTION IS STILL OPERATIONAL, WE STILL HAVE TO ADDRESS HE'S PAYING FOR IT. HE'S GOING TO COME TO US WITH A BUDGET. >> MY MOTION IS IT'S AS IF THE EVENT THAT THE CITY WOULD PROVIDE THE FUNDING AND THE STAFF TO PUT ON A CITY EVENT AT [00:25:03] A CITY PARK. >> THEY WERE ONLY RAISING MONEY FOR NOT ANY OF THE OPERATIONAL STUFF,. >> AND THE LIAISON SO I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. >> KNOW JUST YOUR INTERPRETATION . >> MY INTERPRETATION WAS THIS WAS A CITY EVENT AND THAT THIS IF YOU WOULD PROVIDE I DIDN'T THINK A PORTA POTTY'S BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS TAKEN CARE OF. AS FAR AS PARKING DIRECTION, GATEKEEPING, PORTER, JANITORIAL SERVICES. >> WE ALL AGREE ON THAT THAT WOULD WHAT IS YOUR THINKING IN TERMS OF WHO IS PAYING FOR THAT? >> THE CITY. AND THEY ARE JUST DOING THE EVENT. >> BUT PORTA POTTY'S AND SECURITY IS THE EVENT. >> ON THE FOURTH OF JULY EVENT, THIS IF YOU PAID FOR PORTA POTTY 'S, RIGHT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS IS ANY DIFFERENT? >> WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THEM RAISING MONEY THEN. WAS IT FOR THE EVENT WHICH IS PART OF THIS OR WERE THEY RAISING MONEY FOR EVERYTHING T-SHIRTS, BUTTONS, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WHAT WE WERE THINKING HERE. >> IN THE RESOLUTION PART BACK IN 2024, THE DESIRES TO CREATE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO PREPARE FOR AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CELEBRATION. SECTION ONE, SECTION TWO I READ ITS ADVISORY IN, SECTION THREE, THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE IS TO PLAN FOR AND PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE CELEBRATION. >> SO TO ME THEY NEED TO PROVID FUNDING FOR IT BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVIDING FUNDING FOR THE EVENT. THE EVENT, THAT INCLUDES, THE CITY IS PROVIDING FIREWORKS, BU THE INVENT, THEIR THERETO THERE PROVIDE FOR THE EVENT. TO KEEP MY RECOLLECTION WHEN I WAS ON COUNCIL AND KIND OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS THAT THE INTENT FOR THE COMMITTEE WAS TO OFFSET THE HOT FUNDS, THERE WAS RELUCTANCE FROM THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL TO DEDICATE THE FULL AMOUNT WE ORIGINALLY WANTED SO THE ACTUAL MOTION WAS WE WILL BASICALLY MATCH YOU DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, WHATEVER YOU CAN FUND RAISE WE WILL MATCH YOUR DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR AND WILL GIVE YOU A MINIMUM OF 20,000, AND IF YOU RAISE MORE THAN THAT BASICALLY EVERY DOLLAR YOU RAISE YOU GET TO DOLLARS, SORE INTENTION WAS IN OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS WE WOULD RAISE AS MUCH MONEY AS WE COULD TO MAKE AS MUCH OF WITH THE MONEY WE COULD RAISE AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WOULD NEE THE MATCHING FUNDS. WHATEVER WE WANT THE EVENT TO LOOK LIKE. PERSONALLY, I WILL TELL YOU, I' RATHER HAVE THE MONEY TO GO TO SWAG AND THINGS FOR THE KIDS, BUT IF IT'S GOING TO BE A COUPL GRAND TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EVENT GOES OFF WELL BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE EVENT TO BE A MESS BECAUSE NO ONE'S IN CHARGE AND NO ONE HAS EXPERIENCED RUNNING IT. SO IF THAT TAKES TAKING A COUPL GRAND OUT OF THE MONEY WE RAISE OR A GROUND OUT OF THE MONEY BE RAISED IN THE GRAND OUT OF THE HOT FUNDS TO MAKE THE EVENT SUCCESSFUL AND ENJOYABLE FOR EVERYONE, I THINK THAT'S MONEY WELL SPENT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR BUDGET AND YOU LOOK AT OUR PLAN, WE HADN'T PLANNED FOR RENTING PORT POTTY'S, WE HADN'T PLANNED ON THE LOGISTICAL PIECE OF HIT, WE HAD PLANNED FOR THE THINGS THAT FOR THE ATTENDEES, THAT'S WHAT OUR INTENTION BECAUSE THAT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MANDAT WAS. >> I THINK SOMEWHERE. >> I WISH IT WOULD HAVE COME UP MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AGO. HAS ANYBODY CONTACTED THE HEALT DEPARTMENT? THERE IS PROCESSED THERE YOU HAVE TO PERMIT THERE. >> T ABC LETTERS HAVE GONE UP BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SIGNING THEM. THAT AT LEAST IS TAKING CARE OF ME. >> TO ME, ALL OF THE EXPENSES A THE EVENT FREIGHT I THOUGHT THE WERE RAISING MONEY FOR THE EVENT . YOU GUYS WERE COORDINATING AND WORKING ON THE HANDWASHING STATIONS WE'RE GOING TO BE NEEDED IN ALL THAT BASED ON PROJECTIONS. >> IT SEEMS LIKE WE EITHER WANT TO CLARIFY AND OR WITH THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION WAS. [00:30:10] THE UNDERSTANDING IS TO WE WANT THE COMMITTEE TO FUND ALL OF THESE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES ON THE DATE OF THE EVENT, OR DO WE WANT THIS A DJ DO IT. >> WITNESSED THE INTENT YOU REA THERE? IT'S FOR THE CELEBRATION. >> WHENEVER THERE IS A CITY EVENT AT THE PARK, A CITY EVENT AT THE PARK, THE CITY PROVIDES. >> RIGHT, SO WE ESTABLISHED A GROUP TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE CITY EVENT. >> THAT'S NOT HOW I READ IT. >> I CAN TELL YOU, I WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN THEM $20,000 TO VEG FOR T-SHIRTS AND STUFF BECAUSE NORMALLY WHEN YOU DO THAT, THAT MAKES MONEY. TO ME THAT WAS MONEY GOING TOWARDS WHATEVER THEY OPERATION OF THE THING IS. IF IT'S ALL TOWARDS SWAG COME I FIRST ENDING $43,000 ON SWAG AN NOT MAKING MONEY, THAT'S A PROBLEM. ANYBODY WHO IS SELLING STUFF SHOULD BE AT LEAST GET MONEY BACK OUT OF IT. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGUR OUT, WHAT ARE THEY SEEING THE $43,000 -ISH FOR? THAT SHOULD COVER THE COST MICHAEL MAKE 1,000 T-SHIRTS. >> I DON'T KNOW THE PROFITS FRO ALL OF THIS. >> A MEAN JUST BREAKING EVEN ON NIGHT. >> MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WOULD BE NOT NECESSARILY SPENDING THE MONEY, BUT PROVIDING THE HELP FROM THE CIT SO IF THEY ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT, I DON'T SEE AN ISSUE OR PROBLEM WITH THAT. >> THE ONLY THING I READ IN THA IS THE PLAN PART, WHEN I HEAR THE WORD PLAN, THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE PORTA POTTY'S LIKE THINGS LITTER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO NEED, HANDWASHING STATIONS. I WOULD HOPE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ALREADY IN THERE, IS THERE FUNDING IN THERE TO PROVIDE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS A PART OF YOUR PLANNING? JUST THE WORD PLAN, THAT IS PAR OF PLANNING AN EVENT. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> AGAIN, OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE LOGISTICAL PIECE WOULD BE HANDLED BY THE CITY. AND THAT IF THERE WE'RE FUNDS THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT OF OUR COMMITTEE TO COVER THE COST, I SEE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT PERSONALLY. I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IF YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR PORTAL PARTIES IT COMES OUT OF OUR BUDGET, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. WE'RE DOING A GOOD JOB WITH BUDGETING WE'VE RAISED THEIR $23,000, WE HAVE THE 23,000 THA IS MATCHING. WE WILL BE MAKING SOME MONEY ON SOME OF THE T-SHIRTS. WE'RE NOT SELLING A TON OF THE T-SHIRTS, SO WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, I THINK THAT WE WILL HAVE RAISED OR GATHERED MORE MONEY THEN WE WILL SPEND. I THINK WE ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD . IF WE NEED TO HELP FUND SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T REALLY EXPECT, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE. I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE ASK FROM US, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BIG DEAL. I THINK OVER GETTING IS WE ARE THE GUINEA PIG FOR THIS NEW IDE THAT CAME UP A YEAR AGO WITH HEY , HOW DO WE DO A CITY EVENT BUT HOW DO WE MANGLE PRIVATE FUNDS WITH THAT AND HOW DO WE D THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME DOING IT, SO WE ARE GETTING SOM ROAD BUMPS AND FIGURING IT OUT. I THINK FUTURE ONES WILL BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER. WE ARE FIGURING OUT AS WE GO WITH THE EXPECTATIONS ARE. >> THINK AT THE NEW THE DAY AS WE DECIDE THIS IS WHAT IS THE BEST OUTCOMES FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE ATTENDEES FARED THE BES OUTCOME IS THAT EVERYTHING IS COVERED PRIDE AS FAR AS THIS IS A GOOD TEACHABLE LESSON FOR ALL OF US AND IT'S A GREAT MODEL IN THEORY. BUTTS, THE PART THAT WAS MISSIN IS DIGGING DOWN TO THE DETAILS ABOUT WHO TAKES ACCOUNTABILITY OR INFORMS OR RESPONSIBILITY FO ALL OF THESE OTHER PIECES. AND WE'RE JUST REALLY GRATEFUL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO RAISE AS MUCH MONEY AS YOU DID, I WOULD AIR ON THE SITE IS A PART OF TH PLANNING IS THE BATHROOMS IN TH HANDWASHING STATIONS, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GOING TO CUT OUT THINGS THAT AR ALREADY PLANNED THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE EVENT MORE ENJOYABLE. IF THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO PLAY FOR THE PLANNING PIECE, WE SHOULD COVER THAT WITH FUNDS THAT WERE RAISED. >> BILL BIEBER AT, WE WERE AT A [00:35:03] COMMITTED DISPENSE, MEANING MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND FOR THIS EVENT RATE AT AROUND 40. AND WE'VE GOT ACCESS TO 46, SO WE DO HAVE BUFFER THERE AND WE WERE THINKING HEY, CAN WE MAKE MORE OF THE COMMEMORATIVE COINS COULD WE PRINT MORE COLORING BOOKS. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE AR THINKING, CAN WE CUT WAY BACK. IN OUR SAME WORK AND WE ADD BAC IN, BUT IF WE NEED TO ADD BACK AND FOR THE PARTIES, IF THERE I PROPERTIES THERE, I'D RATHER HAVE THAT THEN WE'RE COLORING BOOKS. >> EVEN NOT HAVING THOSE, IT DOES REDUCE FROM THE ENJOYMENT OF THE EVENT, ESPECIALLY FOR FAMILIES. >> WANTED TO BE AN ENJOYABLE EVENT THAT PEOPLE WANT TO REMEMBER HOW GOOD IT WAS. >> IS SOAKING THE RECENT A MOTION FACTS AND GET LIKE SPEAKING. THEY'RE NOT PLANNING FOR OPERATIONS. SO I WAS ASKED TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL REGARDLESS OF WHO PAYS FOR IT, IT WAS PREFERRED TO HAV CITY PAY FOR IT, BUT IT'S, YOU SAID EVEN PRIOR TO TONIGHT THAT THE COMMITTEE IS WILLING TO FUN THAT. TO THE BIG ISSUE TO ME IS, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY DOING OPERATIONS FROM THE CITY RIGHT NOW. >> ONCE THE MOTION PASSES WE WILL. >> THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THIS I TO GET THE OPERATIONS, TODAY TODAY, SIMILAR TO THE FOURTH OF JULY EVENT. >> I'VE MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO MOVE WE KEPT HAVE THEM PAY FOR WHATEVER THE OPERATION IS. >> AS LONG AS THEY HAVE OPERATIONS STAFF. >> OUR HOPE COMING OUT OF HERE. >> I'M SORRY. >> TRAVIS AIKEN? >> SECOND. >> OUR COMING OUT OF HERE IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE STAFF IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD BE KIND O THAT'S IN CHARGE OUR COMMITTEE WOULD BE THERE ON-SITE SUPPORT TO THEM AND THEY WOULD BE THE ONES IN CHARGE, OUR HOPE WAS TO GET STAFF IDENTIFIED WHO COULD BE THAT AND THEN IF NEEDED FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE IF WE NEED TO RESERVE FUNDS FOR THAT. TAKING AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION. >> STICKY AMENDMENT PASSES SEVEN DISH MIKE SAVILLE, NOW IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED MOTION FOR THE CITY TO MB INVOLVED IN OPERATIONS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE COMMITTEE? PLEASE CALL THE PHOTOPERIOD. >> >> IS THE MOTION 7-0. THAT BRINGS US UP TO 7.1. [7.1. Presentation and discussion of the September 2026 financial report. (Alberta Barrett)] PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION OF THE SEPTEMBER 2026 FINANCIAL REPORT. HELLO, ALBERT FED. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, AND MAY. ALBERTA BARRETT FINANCE DIRECTO FOR THE RECORD. TONIGHT WE WILL HIT THAT MAJOR FUNDS, STARTING WITH THE GENERA FUND. I WANT TO POINT OUT JUST THE FORMAT ON THE VERY LEFT IS THAT CATEGORIES, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. FOR NEXT TWO COLUMNS ARE THE LAST TWO YEARS AUDITED REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES. IN THE MIDDLE IS THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR. FOR NEXT IS THE CURRENT MONTH I THEN YEAR TO DATE, THE VERY END IS THE VARIABLE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL. THE FIRST ONE IS PROPERTY TAX. HERE WE HAD BUDGET OF 15,000,000-POINT TO AND WE ARE HITTING RIGHT ABOUT 15 MILLION RIGHT NOW, SO WE ARE ABOUT $174,000 BELOW OUR BUDGET. WE DO HAVE A FEW THINGS YET IN ALL THESE CATEGORIES WHERE WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES SO THIS IS VER PRELIMINARY STILL SO THESE [00:40:03] NUMBERS WILL CHANGE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT PROPERTY TAX THI YEAR COMPARED TO LAST YEAR, WE HAVE ABOUT 3.3 PERCENT INCREASE THIS YEAR OVER LAST YEAR. SALES TAX IS ANOTHER LONG FOR THE FUND. HERE WE HAVE BUDGET ABOUT 10.3 MILLION. WE HAD ABOUT TEN POINTS HAVE BEEN. THE MAJOR INCREASE THERE WAS TH INCREASE IN LIQUOR SALES TAX AN WE HAVE PAID LESS IN SALES TAX IN REBATES TO THIS POINT. THAT NEXT CATEGORY AS PERMITS AND LICENSE. THAT IS VERY CLOSE ABOUT ANOTHE 3.3 PERCENT OVER THE PRIOR YEAR FOR THAT CATEGORY. THAT NEXT ONE I WANT TO POINT OUT IS THE REVENUES AND THE MAJOR ITEMS IN THEIR AS KIND OF THE CATCHALL, BUT IT DOES HAVE OUR FRANCHISE FEES. WE STILL HAVE GOING TO BE RECEIVED IN OCTOBER, ONCE IT'S RECEIVED AND POSTED, IT WILL BE POSTED BACK TO SEPTEMBER, SO THAT WILL BRING OUR OTHER REVENUE FOR THIS YEAR THAT IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE IN LOOKING A LAST YEARS TOTAL. IF YOU LOOK AT 25 AND YOU TAKE ALTHOUGH ONE TIME REVENUE SOURCES SUCH AS SALES TAX, WE HAD THE SETTLEMENT. IF YOU TOOK THOSE OUT AND COMPARED IT TO WHERE WERE AT RIGHT NOW WITH THE 34.6 MILLION YOU ARE ABOUT 2 PERCENT AHEAD O LAST YEAR IN REVENUES. MOVING TO EXPENDITURES ON THE BOTTOM HALF. BREAKING THEM DOWN BY CATEGORIE OF EXPENDITURE. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, WE ARE ABOUT 400 TO THOUSAND BELOW WHA WE HAD BUDGETED. DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ABOUT $735,000 BELOW WHAT WE HA BUDGETED. ALL OF THOSE CATEGORIES, STRATEGIC OPS WHICH IS MAINLY YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THE MAJOR PORTION OF THAT CATEGORY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES ARE ALL BELOW BUDGET. ACROSS THE BOARD IT'S YOUR PROFESSIONAL FEES, SOME SUPPLIE AND LEGAL FEES. IN TOTAL, YOUR EXPENDITURES ARE ABOUT 1.7 ALMOST 1.8 BELOW WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED AT $31.4 MILLION . LOOKING IN TOTAL IN COMPARISON, YOUR REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES AT THIS POINT, YOU HAVE AN ADDITION TO FUND BALANCE AT TWO-POINT TO MILLION IN COMPARISON TO YOUR TWO PRIOR YEARS, IT'S VERY CONSISTENT TO WHERE WE HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST. AGAIN, JUST TO REARRANGE, THERE WILL STILL BE ADDITIONAL REVENU AND EXPENDITURES POSTED TO THAT NUMBER. MOVING TO JUST THE CRAFT OF WHA WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THE TOP T OUR YOUR EXPENDITURE ACTUAL AND EXPENDITURE BUDGET FOR THE GENERAL FUND. AS YOU SEE THERE, WE ARE ABOUT THAT $1.7 MILLION BELOW WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR EXPENDITURES. THE BOTTOM TWO BARS ARE OF THAT REVENUE ACTUAL COMPARED TO THE REVENUE BUDGET. HERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED AND REVENUES WHICH IS THE $314,000. TAKING THOSE YEAR-TO-DATE REVENUES FOR THE GENERAL FUND, YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES ARE. A LITTLE OVER 15 MILLION REPRESENTS 44 PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL TAXES. AS YOUR SALES TAXES YOUR NEXT LARGEST ONE AT ABOUT 31 PERCENT IN THEN YOUR PERMITS AND LICENSES IS ABOUT 4.3 MILLION O 12 PERCENT. THOSE ARE YOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES FOR THOSE. THIS IS JUST YOUR SALES TAX. IT WAS KIND OF VOLATILE THROUGH THAT YEAR. FOR LIGHT BLUE AT THE TOP WAS THE BUDGET, THE RED IS WHERE WE ACTUALLY HIT MONTH-TO-MONTH IN THERE WHERE WE ENDED AT THE YEA SLIGHTLY ABOVE OUR BUDGET. LOOKING AT YOUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES TAKING THOSE SAME CATEGORIES AND PUTTING IT INTO THE CHART, YOUR STRATEGIC OPS I YOUR MAJOR EXPENDITURES, WHICH AGAIN HOUSES YOUR POLICE [00:45:06] DEPARTMENT SO IT IS SITTING AT 45 PERCENT. YOUR DEVELOPMENT INFRASTRUCTURE A BIG WHEN THERE IS YOUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMING IN STREETS, AND THAT IS SITTING AT A .3 MILLION OR 26 PERCENT. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES, AT 15 MILLION 15 PERCENT OF TOTAL. MOVING TO THE UTILITY FUND. THE SAME SET UP AS WE JUST DISCUSSED IN THE GENERAL FUND. YOUR FIRST ONE CHARGES FOR SERVICES HOUSES ALL THE CHARGES FOR SERVICES WITHIN THE UTILITY FUND, THE TWO MAJOR ONES OUR YOUR AUTO SERVICES FOR UTILITY AND WASTEWATER THAT IS BUILT ON YOUR UTILITY BILLS. HERE WE ARE ABOUT 603,000 BELOW WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED THOUGH I SEE THAT ONCE WE GET ALL OF OUR SEPTEMBER BUILD RECEIVABLES POSTED, THAT NUMBER WILL PROBABLY EXCEED WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED AT THE 20-POINT TO MILLION. ALL THE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE VERY CLOSE IN TOTAL. UC THEY'RE RIGHT ABOVE THE TOTA REVENUES, YOUR TRANSFER FROM OTHER FUNDS COME AT THE .7 MILLION, THAT IS SURE TRANSFER FROM THAT UTILITY IMPACT FEE FUND WHICH COVERS YOUR PRINCIPAL PAYMENTS AND A PORTION OF YOUR INTEREST PAYMENTS THAT KIDS TRANSFERRED. EXPENDITURES BELOW, I GUESS REALLY THE BIGGEST ONE WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS UTILITY OPERATION. IT IS TO .5 MILLION BELOW WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED. RIGHT NOW IT'S SITTING AT ABOUT 10.7 MILLION VERSUS AT THREE PORCH 13.3 B HAD BUDGETED. THERE WILL STILL BE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES THAT WILL BE CHARGED, BUT THE MAIN DIFFERENC ACROSS-THE-BOARD IS SALARY VACANCIES, WE HAD THE SAVINGS THERE, SOME MAINTENANCE COST AN CONTRACT SERVICES. IN TOTAL, YOUR EXPENDITURES AT THIS POINT ARE 38.3 MILLION VERSUS THE 41-POINT WHEN WE HAD BUDGETED. REVENUES OVER EXPENDITURES RIGH NOW REFLECTS A 1.3 MILLION ADDITION IN THE UTILITY FUND. AGAIN, JUST LOOKING AT THAT SAM DATA INTO YOUR CHARTS, YOUR GRAPH, YOUR REVENUE BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL, YOU CAN SEE THER WHERE DOWNED THAT $673,000. THE EXPENDITURE BUDGET, 41.1 MILLION VERSUS WHERE WERE AT AT $38.3 MILLION SHOWS THE BIG DECREASE OF $2.8 MILLION. IN EXPENDITURES IS OF TODAY. HERE LOOKING AT YOUR SOURCES OF YOUR REVENUES, YOU'RE PIG WHEN AGAIN AGAIN ENSURE CHARGES FOR SERVICES AND THAT IS ABOUT 70 PERCENT OF YOUR TOTAL REVENUES IN THEN THE OTHER BIG PIECE IS SURE TRANSFER IN FROM THE UTILITY FUND AGAIN AT 27 PERCENT WHICH IS YOUR PRINCIPAL AND A PORTION OF YOUR INTEREST PAYMENTS ON YOUR DEBT. EXPENDITURES, SAME BIG PIECE THERE, THE 64 PERCENT INSURED DEBT, THE PRINCIPAL AND INTERES PAYMENTS IN THEN YOUR BIGGEST ONE IN SHORT UTILITY OPERATIONS WHICH OPERATES THE SYSTEM, IT'S ABOUT 28 PERCENT OR $10.7 MILLION. THE NEXT ONE, THE FUND THAT WE THOUGHT TO DISCUSS BASED ON COS AND VALUES IS THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THE SAME SET UP, YOU'RE FIRST T COLUMNS ALL YOUR ACTUAL FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS IN THEN THIS CURRENT YEAR AND THE DIFFERENCE. SALES TAX IS REALLY RUNNING TRU TO WHAT IT'S BEEN IN THE PRIOR TWO YEARS. WE ARE LOOKING AT $3.7 MILLION. SLIGHTLY OVER THE 3.6 MILLION W HAD BUDGETED. OTHER REVENUE INCLUDED OR DID HAVE LAND SALES, SO HERE WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED $7.9 MILLION WHICH IS ABOUT $93,000 LESS THA WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED. AND THEN CONTRIBUTION FROM SAFETY, WE HAVE A BIG ONE THIS YEAR AT THE $46 MILLION. THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS TRANSVERSE FROM THE CITY FOR TH JOINT CIP PROJECTS BETWEEN EDC IN THE SAFETY. EXPENDITURES, THE BIG ONE HERE IS THAT CAPITAL OUTLAY, THAT IS WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED AT 47 POIN TO MILLION DOLLARS. AGAIN THAT IS FOR THE TWO PROJECTS RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE DOING JOINTLY. SO THE REST OF THAT WILL BE IN [00:50:05] NEXT YEARS TO FINISH THOSE PROJECTS OUT. LAND PURCHASE, WE HAD A BUDGET OF ABOUT 2.7 MILLION AND WE HIT 1.854 AS FAR AS PURCHASES. AND DEBT SERVICE WE HAD BUDGETE ABOUT 5.9 AND TODAY WE SPENT ALMOST 3 MILLION. THE BIG DIFFERENCE THERE IS WE BUDGETED FOR THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST PAYMENTS ON SOME OF THOSE LAND SALES AND HOW IT AFFECTS OUR DEBT WITH ALLIANCE BANK, SO THAT IS THE BIG VARIANCE THEY ARE. IN TOTAL TODAY, YOUR REVENUES ARE SLIGHTLY UPRIGHT $19 MILLIO WITH EXPENDITURES AT 13.7. SO AGAIN TODAY, YOU ARE ADDING 5.3 MILLION TO THE FUND BALANCE. AGAIN, THE SAME AS THE GENERAL UTILITY FUND, THERE WILL STILL BE SOME REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES THAT WILL STILL HI THIS FUND. NEXT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR CASH AND INVESTMENTS. IN TOTAL FOR THIS YEAR, WE HAVE ABOUT 214 MILLION IS WHAT THAT GRAPH IS COMPRISED OF. THE BIG ONE AT 59 PERCENT IS TH $127 MILLION WHICH ARE RESTRICTED FUNDS WHICH ARE FROM YOUR CEOS NGOS WHICH ARE USED MAINLY FOR YOUR CIP PROJECTS. YOU'RE TOTAL UNRESTRICTED IS SITTING AT 11 PERCENT IN THEN YOUR OTHER BIG WHEN ENSURE TOTA RESTRICTED WHICH IS SITTING AT ABOUT 20 TO PERCENT. THOSE ARE LIKE YOUR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT FUND. THEY ARE RESTRICTED IN NATURE AND FOR THE PURPOSE. IN COMPARISON TO THE $214 MILLION THAT WE HAD REFLECTED IN COMPARISON TO 25, WE HAD $305 MILLION. SO WE HAVE REDUCED YOUR CASH BY $91 MILLION IN YEARS TIME WITH MOST OF THAT BEING THE TOTAL RESTRICTIVE CEOS NGOS WHICH IS GOING TO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. THAT IS WHAT I HAVE. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? INKY I HAVE ONE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST OR SECOND SLIDE ON FRANCHISE FEES. IS THERE A PROCESS TO VERIFY THAT WE ARE GETTING EVERYTHING REST SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING OUT OF THAT. KEY THERE IS. IN FACT NOW THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT, MAYOR, THAT IS ONE ASPECT THAT FINANCE IS GOING TO START RESEARCHING IN THE NEXT MONTH I THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT WILL ACTUALLY DO REVENUE AUDITS, MAINLY OF YOUR FRANCHISE FEES IS A BIG ONE AND THEY LOOK AT THAT AND THEY GO AND EVALUATE AND ACTUALLY DO AN EXTERNAL AUDIT TO SEE IF WE ARE RECEIVING WHAT WE SHOULD. >> WHICH LINE ITEM WITH THAT BE UNDER? >> IT'S UNDER OTHER REVENUES. PROBABLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS JUST BREAK THAT OUT NEXT YEAR BECAUSE I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE TO HAVE AN OTHER REVENUE OR MISCELLANEOUS LINEUP SO LARGE. OF COURSE, A MAJORITY OF IT WIL BE FRANCHISE FEES, SO IF THE FUTURE WILL PROBABLY MAKE THAT SEPARATE CATEGORY FOR YOU. >> IS IT IN THE BUDGET FOR YOU TO HIRE THE CONSULTANT PERSON? >> NO, IT IS NOT IN THE BUDGET, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHAT THEY WILL DO IS THEY ARE FUNDED OUT OF WHAT THEY FIND. >> WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS THE ITEMS FOR THE SALES TAX AUDIT, AND I WAS TALKING TO A GUY TODAY AND HE SAID MANAGE A NOISE PAYING SALES TAX AND THEN WE RAN INTO WHAT THEY PUT ON TH BILLS IS A GROSS RECEIPTS, I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXACT WORDING THEY PUT ON A GROSS RECEIPTS REIMBURSEMENTS, SO I WAS RESEARCHING THAT AND IT'S A FEE THAT THE CITY CHARGES 2.0 1997 FEES IT'S JUST BELOW OUR SALES TAX CHARGE AND THEN THEY ARE ALLOWED BY LAW. >> REIMBURSED SO WE CHARGE THE ELECTRIC COMPANY IN THEN IT'S ALSO KNOWN AS A FRANCHISE TAX. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE HAVE BUT IF YOU TOOK 20,000 HOMES IN THE AVERAGE HOMEOWNER PAID $6 A MONTH, THAT'S ALMOST TO POINT T MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR JUST IN FRANCHISE FEES JUST ON ELECTRICITY AND HOMES NOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ALL THE INDUSTRIAL ELECTRICITY THAT'S BEING USED. IT GOT ME WONDERING. THERE IS NO WAY THAT TO .6 IS THE NUMBER BECAUSE SOMEONE STOP PAYING IT. WE HAVE SOME HIGH ENERGY USERS ESPECIALLY WITH THE DATA CENTER COMING UP VERY I WAS TALKING TO THIS GUY IN I SAID THIS IS CRAZ BECAUSE WE'RE JUST STARTING TO AUDIT THIS STUFF. [00:55:01] I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COMPANIES ARE CHARGING IT, HOW MANY COMPANIES ARE PAYING IT, SO BRING THAT UP AS SOMETHING IF YOU WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOUL AUTHORIZE SOMEBODY OR AUTHORIZE MONEY BECAUSE SOMETHING TELLS M THAT OUR FRANCHISE FEES ARE CONSIDERABLY LESS THAN WHAT THE SHOULD BE. I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF HE HAS IT TWICE BEHIND. >> WE CAN BRING THAT BACK. OF STAFF CAN BRING THAT BACK ONCE WE GET SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. >> SUITE. MADE MORE IN SPENT LESS. >> THAT'S A GOOD JOB YOU DID THERE. >> HE IS TOUGH. [8.1. Joint Meeting with Planning and Zoning Commission - Call to Order & Roll Call: Rick Hudson, Chair Tony Wertz, Vice-Chair Jose DeLaCruz Norman Delay Joelle Dan Cory Hall Brandon DeLeon] >> THANK YOU. JOINT MEETING WITH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION - CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL: >> I WILL CALL THE JOINT MEETIN OF SOUNDING SENDING AND PLANNIN TO ORDER. THE FIRST ITEM IS ROLL CALL. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> HERE. [8.2. Joint Public Hearing of the Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council to consider recommendations and possible action on Ordinance No. О-2026-057 repealing and replacing Article 16.02 of the Code of Ordinances - the Unified Development Code of the City of Hutto, Texas. (Howard Koontz)] >> WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. >> OUR NEXT ITEM IS A JOINT TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDATIONS AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 2026-057 REPEALING AND REPLACING ARTICLE TWO I NEED TO OPEN UP THE PUBLI HEARING NOW? >> YES. >> WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE WILL CALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SPEAK AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY ELSE. I KNOW YOU CAN INSULT THIS QUESTION RIGHT NOW, BUT I WANT TO KEEP IT IN MIND AND THAT IS WHO YOU WORK FOR A. WHERE I'M CMS INCOME AT THIS SO SINCE BEHIND VR AS WELL WE HAVE TO KEEP COMING HERE TO FIGHT THESE DATA CENTERS AND THE REGULATIONS DESIGNED TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO BUILD AND EXPAND AND RUIN THE AREAS AROUN THEM. WE SHOW UP TO THESE MEETINGS, W VOICE OUR CONCERNS AND WE SHOULDN'T FEEL LEAVING MICRO IGNORED. IT DOES NOT BENEFIT HUTTO OR OU PEOPLE IT ONLY MAKES IT EASIER FOR THEM TO SCREW UP OUR BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY. I ASK AGAIN WHO DO YOU WORK FOR PERRY FEW WERE ELECTED REPRESEN US, TO LEAD US, AND NOT RULE OVER US. THE CITY AS WE WENT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THE PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS ON A DAILY BASIS. WE HAVE BEEN CLEAR ON WHERE WE STAND WHERE IT COMES TO THE DAT CENTERS AND THE POLICY SURROUNDING IT. PUBLIC INPUT IS NOT AN INCONVENIENCE. YOUR DECISION SHOULDN'T BE MADE BEFORE WE STEPPED FOOT IN HERE. YOU SHOULD LISTEN TO US AND EXPLAIN YOUR REASONING, MOST OF ALL, WHEN WE RAISE OUR CONCERNS HE MUST HAVE THE HUMILITY TO RECONSIDER YOUR POSITION. I ASK AGAIN WHO YOU WORK FOR BERG I KNOW COUNCILMAN CAN, YOU ARE THE REVENUE GUY, YOU RAN WITH THOSE BIG BRIGHT YELLOW YARD SIGNS. COUNCILMAN THORTON, YOU'RE UP FOR REELECTION IN MAY, COUNCILMAN PORTERFIELD, YOU'RE UP FOR REELECTION IN MAY. WE WILL NOT FORGET IF YOU VOTE TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY OR MAK IT WORSE FOR ME PART FORGET IF YOU REPRESENT US OR THE PEOPLE WITH HEINEKEN. WE ARE AGAINST THESE DATA CENTERS. AS ONE LAST TIME, WHO DO YOU WORK? IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PROTECT US FROM THOSE WHO SEEK TO TAKE US AND SCAR OUR LANDSCAPE, THEN WHY ARE YOU ON OUR CITY COUNCIL? >> WE ARE ABLE TO INTERACT BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLISHED ITEM. WHAT PART WE AMENDING THE IS GIVEN YOU CONCERN? >> THE WALL, THE FOLIAGE,. [01:00:06] >> YOU SAY WALL, WRIGGLING FROM AN AMERICAN STARTUP FENCE TO SOLID MASONRY, 6-FOOT TO EIGHT PUTS OVER MAKING THEM MASONRY WALL AND ASKED TO BE 2 FEET TALLER. >> IT'S ALSO REDUCING THE NOTIFICATION RANGE PREDICATED THAT'S ANOTHER ITEM. YOU SAID WHILE. YOU WANT YOU DON'T WANT THE MASONRY AND TALLER SO THEY CAN JUST PUT UP A 6-FOOT WOODEN FENCE? >> A MAY BE CONFUSED AS TO WHIC ITEM WE ARE ON, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT REDUCING THE RANGE OF WHO IS NOTIFIED. >> THAT IS SOMETHING, LIKE WE TALKED RIGHT I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CHANGE CAME FROM BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, OUR THERE CONCERNS YOU HAVE IN THE YOU TO SEE? BECAUSE YOU BRING UP DON'T CHANGE UDC AND WE HAVE ADDED ADDED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ADDRESS SPECIFICALLY COMIC IS RIGHT WE WORK FOR YOU, WHAT CONCERNS AND WHAT ELSE IS THERE IN THERE WE NEED TO HAVE CONCERNS FOR. >> IT SEEMS TO ME AS I READ IT THAT THERE WILL BE LESS. >> SO THE UDC IS 400 PAGES. WE HAD ORIGINALLY MADE IT 600 FEET, AND IT GOES BACK, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT GOT TAKEN OUT, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT IN A BIT, BUT YOU SAID DON'T CHANGE, DON'T AMEND IT, IS THEIR ANYTHING SPECIFIC BESIDES THE NOTIFICATION YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE CHANGED CHANGE THAT WE ARE CHANGING? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO AT THIS TIME. >> THANK YOU. >> NEXT WE HAVE HELEN KAUFMAN. >> OUTSIDE YOU HAVE FROM THE MOUTH OF BABES, THEY DESIGNED A HIPPO THAT SAYS RESPECTABLE, RESPONSIBLE SAFE, LIVE IT, GIVE IT. KIDS REFLECT WHAT PARENTS IN THIS COMMUNITY EDUCATE THEM ON AND VALUES. IF IT SOMETHING FROM THEIR PARENTS OR SOMETHING FROM THEIR TEACHERS. I OBJECT TO THE CHANGES OF THE SPECIFICALLY AND HOW YOU NOTIFY PEOPLE. YOU'RE CUTTING THE NOTIFICATION BY A THIRD. THAT IS MAKING IT LESS INFORMED LESS ENGAGED PUBLIC WHO ALREADY HAS A HARD TIME READING THROUGH 800 SOME PAGES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ORNAMENTS OUR AND THEN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE AGENDAS ARE BECAUSE THE AGENDA ONLY REFERENCES AN ORDINANCE CHANGE. THE ORIGINAL UNIFIED THING WAS AS A RESULT OF A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT THROUGH A GRANT WE HAD, YOU ARE CHANGING IT NOW TO ALLEVIATE THE NEED TO MAKE DEVELOPMENT CHANGES BECAUSE OF SOME CHANGES THAT ARE NOT IN TH LESS SEA GAVE A LOT OF TESTIMON JOE BARON WHETHER IT'S BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT WAVELENGTHS THAT SOUNDS CAN TRAVEL, WHETHER EXCELLENT NOTIFICATIONS, WHETHE IT'S WALLS THAT ARE NOT EFFICIENT TO KEEP THOSE LARGER LONGER WAVELENGTHS WHETHER IT'S TO FILE DATA CENTERS OR OTHER DEVELOPMENT BRIDGER KEEPING THE COMMUNITY FROM BEING NOT INFORMED ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHAT AFFECTS OUR KIDS, BUSINESSES, AND HOMES. I WISH YOU WOULD CONSIDER MAKIN SOME CHANGES TO KEEP THOSE NOTIFICATIONS AND KEEP US INFORMED. >> THE SAME QUESTION BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M GLAD SOMEONE NOTICED THERE WAS A CHANGE, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT NOTIFICATION CHANGE, IS THEIR ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THA IS BEING PROPOSED THAT YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH? >> IS, I'M ASKING I'M GLAD YOU'RE ASKING SPECIFICALLY. FOR PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE CITY WE RELY ON OUR ZONING. WE HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE OTHERWISE WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THEM. >> OKAY. SPECIFICALLY. THAT NOTIFICATION FROM 600-TO HUNDRED FEET, IT SHUTS RESIDENT OUT OF HAVING INPUT GUARD THE DECIBEL LOW-FREQUENCY NOISE IS OUR ONLY ONE WAY TO MEASURE NOISE IS. WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS, WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER TYPES OF WAVELENGTHS IN THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A LOW-FREQUENCY STUDY, WE HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD REFERENCE OR FEEDBACK , THAT HASN'T BEEN [01:05:02] COORDINATED AND THAT'S NOT LISTED ON THIS ADJUSTMENT. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF MASONRY WALL, A MINIMUM 3-FOOT HEDGE ENTRIES. TO FOR EVERY 50 FEET AS A BUFFER . THIS IS AN ADEQUATE FROM WHAT W LEARNED ALL IN ALL THE OTHER MEETINGS WE CAME TO REGARDING THE DATACENTER WITHERS THE DATACENTER OR THE AMPHITHEATER. WHAT IS ADEQUATE IN YOUR MIND S WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGES TO SATISFY YOU? >> I DIDN'T ASK THAT WHEN I ASKED MY FRIENDS THAT WORK IN SOUND ENGINEERING. >> I'M NOT TRYING TO FIGHT WITH YOU, BUT HOW DO WE MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY LISTEN TO ME IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT. >> FIRST OF ALL, COMPLETE THE STUDY TO FIND OUT. THAT IS GOING TO EDUCATE YOU AN EDUCATE US AS WELL. THAT IS MY POINT, WE DON'T KNOW BUT RIGHT NOW WE KNOW THAT IT I NOT BEING ADEQUATE. FOR SOUND STUDIES WILL GIVE US THAT INFORMATION. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT BEEN COMPLETED. THAT IS WHAT MY SOUND FRIENDS HEAD, IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT ELSE IT IS BOUNCING OFF OF. WE HAVE TO ASK FOR SUCH SOUND STUDIES, NOT JUST DB WHEN THEY REDO RESEARCH TO PUT INTO DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO THE LOW FREQUENCY. >> OUR THERE OTHER ITEMS? >> THERE ARE A LOT OF TYPOS IN THE CODE AS WELL. JUST SLOPPY BUSINESS. IN THE REFERENCE. SO OF FINAL DRAFT NEEDS TO REDO THAT. TRYING TO REMEMBER. I HAVE SOME OTHER NOTES HERE. I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN EVERY LITTL ERROR, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF SLOPPY DETAILS. >> I'M LOOKING FOR THE BIGGER STUFF LIKE CAN'T BE ON A CERTAI SIZE LOT, COMMERCIAL HAS TO BE SO MUCH DISTANCE FROM THE HOME, TYPOS I THINK THE STAFF WILL GE THAT. >> I HAVE A LOT OF OBJECTIONS T JUST REPLACING WHAT IS CONVENIENT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE NO VERSUS WHAT WAS HAD A LARGER INPUT WITH THE UDC. WE SPENT YEARS ON THAT. THIS JUST SEEMS SLAP SHOT TO ME PUTTING IT AND FOR THE NEEDS OF WHATEVER THEIR GOALS ARE FOR TH CITY COUNCIL, AND MAY BE SOME DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING IN, NOT JUST THE DATA CENTERS, BUT IN GENERAL. I FEELS LIKE WHERE MANAGING THE NUANCES AFTER HAVING BEEN PART OF THOSE MEETINGS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF. AND JUST IN GENERAL, THE TONE I GIVES IN AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE CITY COUNCIL IS ALREADY FACING CRITICISM FOR NOT BEING REPRESENTATIVE. I JUST THINK IT IS POOR PRACTIC AND IT MAKES OUR CITY COUNCIL I GENERAL BECOME MORE FORMABLE AN WEAK. ANYTHING THAT BUILDS FURTHER JUST TRUST BETWEEN CITIZENS AND COUNCIL, NO MATTER WHO IT IS IS JUST. >> FIX TYPOS, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SOUND, AND WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE OLD NOTIFICATION. THAT'S IT? >> PRETTY MUCH. NEXT WE HAD PETER GORDON. >> I AM HERE ABOUT THE NOTIFICATIONS. I WAS IN COUNCIL WHEN IT CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND IT WAS ORIGINALLY THE 200 FEET IN WE HAD RAISED IT TO ORIGINALLY I THINK IT WAS 500 AND WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING IT TO 600, WHICH W DID. I ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT 1,000 FEET, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IF THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A MISS ON YOUR PART OR IF YOU WERE PLANNING ON REDUCIN IT TO 200, I WAS ENCOURAGING YO TO RECONSIDER THAT. AND THEN EVEN MORE IF IT WAS FO EVERY STORY YOU HAD THERE WAS MORE AND FOR EVERY SO MANY SQUARE FEET, IT WAS MORE. I JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP THAT UP THERE. I WAS A STRONG OF THAT. THAT'S ONLY COMMENT I HAVE. >> AVENUE THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER . [01:10:05] YES. >> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WE HAVE TISH FLOREZ. >> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I LIVE RIGHT DOWN HIGHWAY 79 IN TAYLOR. I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT AS A NEIGHBOR WHO HAS SEEN FIRSTHAND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN DEVELOPMENT RULES SHIFT. NOTIFICATION AREAS SHRINK AND RESIDENT LOSE THEIR SEAT AT THE TABLE. MAIRE TO ASK YOU TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE CHANGES TO THE UDC SPECIFICALLY THE REDUCTION AND NOTIFICATION DISTANCES AND TO PRIORITIZE RESIDENT AWARENESS OVER RAPID INDUSTRIAL EXPANSION. IN TAYLOR, OUR COMMUNITY WAS CHANGED OVERNIGHT BY MASSIVE DATA CENTRAL DEVELOPMENT AND 87- ACRE ORIGINALLY DONATED FOR A COMMUNITY PARK HANDED OVER FOR INDUSTRIAL USE ALONG WITH MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT WATER CONSUMPTION , POWER GRIDS TRAIN, AND NEIGHBORHOOD IMPACTS WRITE THE BIGGEST BREAKDOWN WAS THE NOTICE TO THE RESIDENCE AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. WHEN PEOPLE ONLY FIND OUT ABOUT MASSIVE ZONING CHANGES AFTER CONTRACTS ARE ALREADY SIGNED, PUBLIC TRUST IS COMPLETELY BROKEN PRIDE IT LEAVES NEIGHBOR FEELING IGNORED AND FORCED TO FIGHT UPHILL BATTLES AFTER DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. UNDER THIS VIEW WHEN PROPOSED UDC UPDATE, THEY ARE LOOKING AT SHRINKING THE DUMP FROM 600 FEE TO JUST 200. IF THE DEVELOPER PROPOSES HIGH INDUSTRIAL PROJECT OR A MASSIVE DATA CENTER NEXT TO AND NEIGHBORHOOD AN NEIGHBORHOOD AN ENTIRE STREET OR A SUBDIVISION WILL SUFFER THE NOISE TRAFFIC AND UTILITY IMPACTS COULD BE LEFT COMPLETELY OUT OF THE LOOP SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY LIVE 250 FEET AWAY. REDUCING THIS DISTANCE STRIPS RESIDENTS OF THEIR CHANCE TO SHOW UP BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE GREAT SAP STRENGTH DEPENDS ON INFORMED ENGAGED CITIZENS NOW CUTTING MAILTO NOTIFICATION CUT CITIZENS OUT OF THE CONVERSATION . I URGE THIS COUNCIL TO REJECT ANY EDC CHANGES THAT REJECT NOTICE REQUIREMENTS, KEEP THAT NOTIFICATION BROUGHT AT THE 600 FEET OR MORE SO THE PEOPLE WHO PAY TAXES, BUILD HOMES, AND RAISE FAMILIES IN HUTTO KNOW WHAT IS COMING. GIVE YOUR RESIDENCE THE VOICE THEY DESERVE. THANK YOU. >> WE HAVE BRIAN SPONSOR, YOU WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SO HE IS GIVING HIS TIME TO CHRISTINE BENSON AND THAT GIVES US CHRISTINE BENSON. >> HELLO. I HAD A SPECIAL, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS CONVERSATION ALSO I KNOW YOU CAN ASK ME QUESTIONS AM I ALLOWED TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS? >> LIMITS PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ENGAGE BECAUSE I HASN'T BEEN PUBLICLY NOTIFIED FROM A TRANSPARENCY STANDPOINT. IF IT'S BEEN NOTIFIED WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT WE CAN GO BACK AND FORTH. VERY. >> I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I COULD ASK YOU QUESTIONS. I'M ALSO HERE ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION DISTANCE. I'M CURIOUS IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT CAME ACROSS YOUR DESK IN YOU MADE THIS DECISION TO CHANGE IT FROM 600-TO HUNDRE FEET OR IF THAT WAS A MISTAKE AND IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE MAYB IT WAS FROM WHAT YOU SAID TO TH OTHER PEOPLE. >> IT WAS THE CONSULTANT'S RECOMMENDATION WHEN WE FIRST HA PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE EDC, AND NOBODY SHOWED UP AND SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE NOTIFICATIONS . THIS IS THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY YOU'VE HAD TO HEAR ABOUT THIS ISSUE. >> I HAVE NO PROBLEM, I THINK W COULD EVEN POSTED ON THE WEBSIT HANDWRITTEN IN THE LINE, EVERY CHANGE THE SUBCOMMITTEE WANTED TO MAKE, I WOULD SAY THIS ON OU PART DID NOT NOTICE CHANGE, I CAN'T FIND A REDLINE WHERE IT CHANGED, IT ORIGINALLY CAME TO US THAT THEY HAD APPROVED IT AS PRESENTED BY THE CONSULTANTS IN WE AS A COUNCIL, THIS IS PROBABLY BACK IN FEBRUARY, WE DID NOT LIKE WHAT IT SAID SO WE WENT THROUGH AND SPENT A MONTH OR TWO MAKING HUGE CHANGES TO ITS. WE SENT IT BACK I THINK IN NOVEMBER TO STAFF IN FEBRUARY RIGHT. >> I ATTENDED A FEW MEETINGS WHERE I GOT TO SEE THE BIG PDF VERSION. TO ME THIS IS WHY IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE PUBLIC PROCESS BECAUSE IT'S 400 PAGES OR WHATEVER IT IS . THIS IS ONE WE SHOULD NOT HAVE MISSED IN MY OPINION. [01:15:04] I WANT SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY ELSE BREATHTAKING AND WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT, WHAT IS IN THA UDC IS WHAT STATE LAW REQUIRES, SO WHEN THE CONSULTANTS CAME OUT , THEY SAID ALL THIS EXTRA EXPENSE AND EXTRA NOTIFICATION, YOU'RE NOT GETTING A WHOLE BUNC OF PEOPLE SHOWING UP BECAUSE OF THIS ADDITIONAL NOTIFICATIONS. AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS JUST GO WITH STATE LAW. >> DID THEY REMEMBER THAT MEETING AND APRIL WERE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP? >> THIS WAS BEFORE. >> I THINK YOU WILL SEE A CONVERSATION ON HERE THAT I DON'T KNOW THERE'S ANYBODY APPEAR THAT'S GOING TO SAY, BUT IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION SO IT HASN'T OPPORTUNITY TO BE FAIR EXPRESS. >> WHICH YOU CONSIDER EXPANDING THE DISTANCE LIKE A THOUSAND FEET TRACKS I ASK THIS BECAUSE PARTICIPATED IN SOME OF THE PUSHBACK ON THAT DATACENTER DEVELOPMENT AND THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD, I CAN SEE IT FROM MY OFFICE I DIDN'T RECEIVE A NOTIFICATION AND THAT WOULD'VE REALLY AFFECTED MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I LIVE, JUST KIND OF LIVING IN WALKING DISTANCE AROUND THE AREA. I WONDER IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER EXPANDING IT SO PEOPLE WHO DO LIVE WALKING DISTANCE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE NOTIFIED. >> I AM SURE WE CAN DO THAT. >> I ALSO HEADACHE QUESTION. I NOTICE THAT DATACENTER'S WILL HAVE TO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT UNDER SECTION THAN AND FOR MANUFACTURING AND INDUSTRIA HEARING THE HEIGHT LIMIT IS 60 FEET. FOR DATA CENTERS THERE'S A SPECIAL EXCEPTION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BE UP TO 120 FEET. AND IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER LIMITING THE HEIGHT OF DATA CENTERS. I KNOW YOU'RE RAISING THE LENGT OF THE WALL FROM 6-8 FEET. TWO-STORY HOUSES ARE STILL GOIN TO BE AFFECTED BY THAT NOISE. >> IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT. TO GET THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIK IS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER LOWERING THE HEIGHT ALLOWANCE, THAT EXTR HEIGHT ALLOWANCE FOR DATA CENTERS IN THAT SECTION. 10.208.1. TOO. >> OKAY. WHAT WAS THE FIRST WHEN YOU CALLED OUT? >> THAT IS THE SECTION THAT COVERS REASONS AND SPECIFIC USE PERMITS THAT'S 10.901. TO POINT TO. THOSE WERE MY TWO BIG CONCERNS, JUST I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO RESTRICT INFORMATION THAT COMES OUT TO YOUR RESIDENCE, MORE INFORMATION IS BETTER ESPECIALL WHEN IT'S WHAT GOES INTO OUR BACKYARDS GREAT I ALSO HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE CLERICAL ERRORS, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER THAT ON THE RECORD I'M JUST HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MY NOTES OF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. >> AND THAT IS PART OF THE FINA CLEANUP PROCESS PREDICATED THE WHOLE PROOFREAD PROCESS GREAT THERE ARE SOME SECTIONS THAT AR REFERENCED THAT DON'T EXIST OR WON'T POSTED ONLINE SO MAYBE THEY DO EXIST, BUT THE PUBLIC COULDN'T READ THEM BEFORE THEY GOT HERE,, THAT SECTIONS 10.806 AND ALSO SECTION 0 IS CITED WHICH IS NOT A SECTION. JUST THESE CLEANUP ITEMS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF FIGURES, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THE SOFTWARE THAT WAS USED TO EXPOR IT TO, BUT IT CALLS OUT UNDER THE FIGURES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AN REFERENCE, IT SAYS ERROR REFERENCE NOT FOUND, I DIDN'T READ THE SPECIFIC SECTIONS, BUT I CAN FIND THEM I HAVE THEM AND MY OTHER NOTES. THOSE WERE PRETTY MUCH ALL OF M QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> NEXT I BELIEVE IS KATIE MARTIN? I DIDN'T WANT TO ASSUME. OF DONE THAT BEFORE. >> GIVEN THE NATURE, I'M FORGOING MY PLAN SPEECH IN I WOULD JUST LIKE TO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION DISTANCE I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WE SHOWED UP TO TALK ABOUT THE UDC, WE SAW THAT CHANGE AND I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS HALF A PAGE , BUT IT'S AN IMPACTFUL HALF A PAGE FOR THAT 600 FEET DISTANCE MEANT I HAD GOTTEN A NOTIFICATION I WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN IT HAD IT BEEN 200 FEET. A LOT OF US WHO HAVE SPOKEN TONIGHT WERE VERY INVOLVED IN THAT. WE SIMPLY WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN. SO REDUCING THAT RANGE, THAT IS [01:20:07] NOT A SMALL THING AND I WOULD HOPE THAT BEFORE THIS IS VOTED ON AND ADOPTED, THAT WOULD AT LAST BE CHANGED, I WOULD PREFER TO 1,000 FEET AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, BUT ALSO, SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK I'M HEARING THIS WE CAN FIX THIS THAT, WE CAN FIX THAT, WE CAN FIX THAT, THAT'S GREAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS AN ADOPTED TONIGHT IF ALL THESE THINGS NEED TO BE FIXED. I WANT TO SEE THE LOW-FREQUENCY NOISE ADDRESSED, ESPECIALLY WHE IT COMES TO THOSE BUFFER YARDS. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN 8-FOOT MASONRY WALL, THE 3-FOOT HEDGE, THE TWO TREES PER EVERY 50 FEET THAT DOES BASICALLY NOTHING TO BLOCK, DEFINITELY NOTHING TO BLOCK THE LOW-FREQUENCY NOISE, AND THE TREES AND THE HEDGE WIL DO NOTHING TO BLOCK. THE SOUND. ESPECIALLY AN 8-FOOT WALL FOR 120-FOOT BUILDING IS NOT ADEQUATE. I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN INCREASE FROM WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE BEFORE, AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S ONE OF THOSE INCREASES THA DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN IT COMES TO THE SOUND THAT RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO HEAR IF YOU PUT A DATACENTER OR ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT JUST DATA CENTERS, IT'S ANY KIND OF INDUSTRIAL MECHANICAL. IN THE CASE OF THAT, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY BEHIND PEOPLE 'S BACKYARD FENCES AND THAT WAS THE BIG CONCERN THERE. JUST ASKING YOU GUYS TO HOLD OF ON APPROVING THIS TONIGHT, GO BACK, CLEAN UP THE TYPOS COME OUT MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO SEE THEY CLEANE UP FINAL VERSION YOU ARE GOING TO APPROVE BEFORE YOU APPROVE I AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ IT. I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS CHANGE YESTERDAY. I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO REPEAT 80 PAGES AND JUST TODAY. , PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHER. I WOULD ASK IF WE CAN, PLEASE MAKE ALL THOSE CHANGES, REVIEW IT AGAIN. MAKE SURE THE PERSON RELEASED T THE PUBLIC IS THE VERSION YOU INTEND JAREESE. AND WE HAVE A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON THAT BEFORE IT IS ADOPTED. >> OKAY SO AND YOU WANT US TO HOLD OFF, AR YOU OKAY HOLDING OFF KNOWING THAT WE WOULD THEN FALL BACK, REVERT BACK TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW WHICH IS EVEN LESS THAN WHAT WE HAVE? >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, YES. >> COULD TAKE SIX MORE MONTHS T GO THROUGH IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH CHAPTER BY CHAPTER, THA WOULD BE SIX MORE MONTHS TO GET I WENT HAPPILY, IF WE WERE GOIN TO SAY THIS CHANGE ON THE MASONRY WALL, IF WE WERE GOING TO UPDATE FROM THE FENCE TO THE MASONRY WALL, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO JUST THAT TONIGHT, RIGHT OKAY, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING, BUT RIGHT NOW ON THE AGENDA IS TO ADOPT IT INCLUDING THE NOTIFICATION CHANGE GRADE MY CONCERN WITH THAT IS THIS CDC DOES NOT LOOK LIKE IT'S READY AND WHAT IT WOULD DO IS ESSENTIALLY SHUT PEOPLE LIKE US OUT OF THE PROCESS SO THAT LET' SAY YOU PASSED THIS TONIGHT, AN THEN TOMORROW THEY COME IN AND APPLY FOR THAT SAME SPOT, AND YOU SEND OUT THE NOTIFICATION JUST TO THE 200 FEET, SO MY CONCERN WAS WE DON'T WANT TO SE THAT NOTIFICATION DISTANCE REDUCED, BUT AS I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE REST OF IT, THESE ARE ALSO CONCERNS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. >> OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION WHAT OTHER CONCERNS NEED TO BE ADDRESSED? >> AND WANT TO SEE THE LOW-FREQUENCY NOISE ADDRESSED WIMMER TALKING ABOUT THE ESSENTIAL REGULATIONS IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, WE KIND OF HAVE THIS NEW SPECIAL SET OF RULES FOR DATA CENTERS THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE MAIN THING WE TALKED ABOUT IN APRIL. I KNOW MY HUSBAND TALKED ABOUT LOT, I TALKED ABOUT IT THAT WAS ONE OF OUR MAIN CONCERNS. >> ALL BE HONEST, MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT DATACENTER ISSUE . BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE IN APRIL, AGAIN I'VE HAD PROBABLY JUST A LITTLE OVER 24 HOUR US T LOOK AT THIS. I WOULD LOVE A CHANCE TO LOOK A IT MORE. MY CONCERN WAS JUST TAKEN MY I FOUND OUT THIS WAS BEING PASSED I HAVE LESS THAN 48 HOURS TO FIGURE OUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT AND COME SAY SOMETHING BEFORE I WAS SCHEDULED TO BE VOTED ON TONIGHT. >> THANK YOU. [01:38:05] WE CAME TO A COMPROMISE. THERE WERE CHANGES BUT THE [01:38:14] INITIAL PHASE OUT, AND THEN WE WILL MAKE CHANGES TO THAT. [01:38:30] TUESDAY WE TOOK A LOOK AND WE ARE GOING TO BE PREPARED AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR CHANGES. WE ARE HERE FOR THE REPLACE. SO WE'VE HAD OUR COMMENTS FOR ABOUT [INDISCERNIBLE] WE CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU. >> I HAVE THE HISTORY RIGHT. >> OF THE VERSION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TONIGHT IS WHAT TH COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEE EDITS WERE BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY PNZ AND THEY HAVE HAVEN'T BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF. IS THAT WHAT THE EDITS ARE. >> THE CLEAN VERSIONS THAT ARE UPLOADED TO A POINT TO ARE THE VERSIONS THAT WERE DIRECTED BY COUNCIL TO STAFF TO PUT ON FOR TONIGHT AND DOESN'T BEEN THROUG THROUGH SOME REVIEWS AND THAT WAS THE BACKGROUND THAT THE [01:40:02] MAYOR WAS ALLUDING TO SO THAT WAS A CULMINATION OF THOSE EDIT AND THINGS REACHING THAT CLEAN DOCUMENT. >> MY CONCERN IS ALWAYS AROUND THE CONSEQUENCES. AS WELL INTENTIONED WE ARE, WE ARE NOT EXPERTS. SOME OF US HAVE BETTER BACKGROUNDS THAN OTHERS SO MY CONCERN ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO AR WE EXPEDITING THINGS ARE WORKIN ON THINGS WITH OUR DUE DILIGENC FOR OUR PRESIDENTS. THERE IS A LOT OF BENEFIT BUT THAT IS WHERE I GET STUCK. IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE TRYING TO PROVE A DOCUMENT TO BAR PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT DOESN'T SEEM READ TO GO BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED AT THE EXPERT LEVEL, WHICH IS WHAT WE COUNT ON STAFF TO DO AND THAT IS HOW I GO ABOU IT AS COUNCILMEMBER AND I WOULD WANT TO KNOW HOW FAR YOU HAD GOTTEN ON IT SO WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WHATEVER UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, THEY ARE NOT DIRE BUT THEY CAN BE REMEDIED AND WE DON'T HAVE SOME HUGE DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN BECAUSE THERE WAS THIS MASSIVE UPDATE AND I THOUGHT ABOUT A THIRD THROUGH FOR MYSELF IT IS A VERY SLOW PROCESS. THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTIS SO THAT IS WHY AM VERY CONCERNE ABOUT THE REPEAL AND REPLACE TONIGHT THAT IT DOES NOT FEEL READY. IT DOES NOT SEEM SOUND LIKE IT' BEEN REVIEWED BY PNZ AND HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED BY PROFESSIONAL STAFF. WE COUNT ON THEM TO GIVE US SOLID AND REAL ANSWERS BASED ON RESEARCH AND EXPERTISE AND THAT IS MY COMMENT ABOUT TONIGHT AND I'M READY TO DO OUR REPEAL AND REPLACE BUT TO BE FAIR, I WAS WAS NOT THERE THROUGH ALL OF THAT PROCESS ON THIS SIDE OF IT. >> THAT IS MY LEVEL OF FRUSTRATION. BUT WE WENT THROUGH, BUT YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN, I GET WHAT I DON'T GET IS THE WAIT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T READ THE DOCUMENT. YOU'RE FOCUSED ON THE DATA CENTER BECAUSE WHAT WE DID IS THERE WAS PROBABLY 30 OR 40 USE THAT HAVE TO HAVE AN SU P-LETTER . WE WENT THROUGH AN INCREASE THAT . WE INCREASE THE WALLS AND WE INCREASE THE SEP PROCESS, SO WE CAN WAIT ANOTHER NINE MONTHS. I LIVE OFF OF ED SCHMIDT AND RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO NOTIFY YOU ABOUT ANYTHING. SO WE CAN WAIT AND IT'S ANOTHER NINE MONTHS AND IF YOU GUYS WAN TO WAIT, THAT'S GREAT BUT IF YO COME IN AND COMPLAINED THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GETTING BILLED HERE ARE THEY DIDN'T REQUIRE AN SU P-LETTER. WE WANT TO SU P-LETTER PROCESS. >> CAN I HAVE A CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF REAL QUICK? >> I WANT TO BE VERY POLITE BECAUSE THE PUBLIC PROCESS, WE HEARD YOU. FOR THAT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IS THAT EVERYBODY IS OUT THERE THAT IS WATCHING AND IF THERE'S THINGS YOU WANT DONE AT SOME POINT, YOU CAN DECIDE TO MAKE NO CHANGES UNTIL IT IS EXACTLY PERFECT IN THEM A LOT O THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WILL CONTINUE T HAPPEN. I GET THE TYPOS AND THE TYPOS GET SOLVED FREQUENTLY AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE ARE TYPOS IN THERE NOW. WILL SEE IF THIS IS WORTH WAITING NINE MORE MONTHS ON. THE DATA CENTER THING IS NOT A DONE DEAL. >> CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF PLEASE. CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF. SO YOU'RE SAYING THIS CLEAN COP WE HAVE NOW IS ONLY FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE. >> THE CLEAN COPY YOU HAVE NOW. IT IS THE EXACT SAME COP THAT WAS RATLINE. DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS TO CLEAN THAT UP AND GET IT ON THE AGENDA FOR NOW ONE CHAPTER AT A TIME. AND STAFF WENT THROUGH THAT DIRECTION. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S JUST NOT SEPARATE. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DO WAS TH CLARIFICATION. >> WE DID HAVE OUR STAFF -- [01:45:05] SPEAK ONE AT A TIME PLEASE. >> GOING BACK TO THE SYSTEM ALL OVER AGAIN THAT WE HAD NOT AND THEY JUST SAW IT TWO DAYS AGO. >> CORRECT, CORRECT. IT MIGHT BE WORTH EXPORTING AS COUNCIL IF THERE ARE CERTAIN CHAPTERS OF THE UDC THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO ADDRESS EARLIER, LIK ANY THAT MIGHT CONTAIN A DATA CENTER OR NOTIFICATIONS WORKING WITH OUR PNZ TO DO THAT NEXT. AND YOU CAN GET THOSE REVISIONS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I THINK THERE MIGHT BE A LOGISTICAL WAY TO GET THAT MOVING. >> THE PRESENT I WAS GOING TO ASK THE CLARIFICATION IS BECAUS THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING THA HASN'T BEEN REVIEWED. I WAS ON PLANNING AND ZONING IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT. IT WAS THE CONSULTANT INITIALLY AND THEY PROVIDED -- DOESN'T SEND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND HUNDREDS OF CHANGES. THERE IS THAT RATLINE. WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS CHANGED. WHEN WE APPROVED THAT. AND THEN WE WENT TO CITY STAFF AND THEY MADE RECOMMENDATIONS, NOT TO SAY YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG BUT IT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT NOBODY IS LOOKING AT THIS COME ALMOST 18 MONTHS NOW AND WE ARE TALKING OVER TWO YEARS NOW. AND THEN THE SUBCOMMITTEE FLICKED AT IT AND WE SPENT 6-8 WEEKENDS, FOUR HOURS, 3-4 HOURS A WEEK AND ME MEETING UP HERE I THIS BEEN A LOT OF OVERSIGHT. IS A PERFECT? BY NO MEANS. I AGREE WITH THAT. AT SOME POINT IN TIME AFTER TWO YEARS, I GUESS ANOTHER THING IS WHAT ARE WE LOSING BY NOT DOING THAT. THE CURRENT ONE IS BETTER FOR A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL WHICH IS DATA CENTERS. SO TO KEEP WITH WHAT WE'RE DOIN NOW, THERE IS ALSO OUR RISK THE ARE AND THERE'S A RISK ON BOTH SIDES. I JUST BOUGHT MAKE THE PUBLIC WHERE THAT THERE'S BEEN LOTS OF OVERSIGHT AND THERE'S ALSO BEEN MISSED OVERSIGHT ON THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF WANT TO HOLD OF AND DELAY. WHAT IS THE BEST PRODUCT TO PUT OUT IS THE OLD ONE OR THE POTENTIAL NEW ONE. >> CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK. I DID GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE UDC AND FOR THE MOST PART THE INTEN IS THERE. THERE ARE CLERICAL ERRORS THAT WOULD HAVE ASSUMED WHAT UP AND CLEANED UP BY STAFF. THERE WERE MORE RESTRICTIONS AN MORE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT THE RATLINE BY THE SUBCOMMITTEE, THE 200 FOUL THAT WAS MISSED AND THE COUNCIL OF THOUGHT IS WHY I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT. AND TRYING TO DECIPHER WHAT HAD CHANGED. AND WE DID TALK ABOUT DATA CENTERS AS WELL. >> WHEN THE CONSULTANT PRESENTE THE 200 CHANGE, IT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AT THAT TIME. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY ADDED TO AN ENHANCED. OTHERWISE THE SUBCOMMITTEE [INDISCERNIBLE] DID IT GET MISSED? YES, IT GOT MISSED SEVERAL TIMES . WE UNDERSTAND THE NOTIFICATION IS A BIG PROCESS. IT'S NOT PART OF CHAPTER 1 AND 2. AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR, I AM FO THE EXTENDED NOTIFICATION. I'VE NEVER BEEN AGAINST THAT. AND SPEAKING FROM THE PLANNING [01:50:02] AND ZONING COMMITTEE WHEN I WAS ON THERE, THAT WAS -- IN FACT IT WAS NOT CODIFIED BUT SPEAKING WITH THE SERVICE DIRECTOR BEFORE, EVEN WHEN IT WAS, WE ALWAYS DID 600 EVEN THOUGH IT WAS -- >> IN A LOT OF CASES YOU ARE CORRECT. THERE ARE OTHER CASES FOR INSTANCE WERE YOU WORK FROM HOM AND THAT IS PART OF THE RATIONALE SO THAT IS THE BACKGROUND ON THAT OR WE CAN DO IT TONIGHT. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY OBJECTION TO DOING THAT. GOING BACK AND STAYING AT. THE FIRST THING WE DID IS RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED THAT BACKEND. I WOULD SAY THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THAT PROCESS. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS COME UP. OCTOBER PUBLIC MEETINGS, SEPTEMBER PUBLIC MEETINGS, SO THIS ISN'T SOME FLY BY NIGHT COMPANY JUST ABOUT IT, IT'S JUS -- IT HAS BEEN PUBLICIZED AND SPOKEN. I WAS EXCITED TO SEE MORE THEN ONE OR TWO. AND THIS IS AN EASY FIX. MAINTAINING WHAT THE PROCESS WA PRIOR TO THIS. AND THAT CAN BE DONE TONIGHT TOO . THIS ISN'T THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO AND WE HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> CORRECT. >> I'D RATHER NOT DO THAT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THAT IS WHAT IS PART OF THE CONFUSION AS. YOU GUYS MAY WANT TO SEE IT AND I JUST THOUGHT I HAVE OUR GOING YOU GUYS SOUGHT TWO DAYS AGO. >> I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT WER LOOKING AT. >> THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SA THIS ISN'T THE WAY WE NEED TO SEE THIS. OF NOTHING ELSE THAT HELPS AS GIVES BACK FEEDBACK ABOUT WE WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR PARIS SO APPRECIATE THE EFFORT. I'M GLAD YOU UNDERSTAND IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY STAFF. IT'S JUST NOT AS WELL INTENDED. THERE'S NOTHING SUPER CONCERNING . I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE CAN KNO THIS. IS THERE ANY DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY AWARE OF THAT WE WANT TO BE AWARE OF BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE COULD BE CONSEQUENCES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT POPS UP BECAUSE IT CAN. I DON'T WHO WOULD ANSWER THAT FOR US TO BE REALLY WANT TO MOV THIS UP AND IT IS A PRIORITY BECAUSE IT GOT THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TRYING TO GET APPROVED. IS ANYTHING THAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD FURTHER INFORM U THAT WE CAN RELAX ON THIS AND I GOING TO BE OKAY AND WE CAN JUS PRIORITIZE A FEW THINGS. >> MY TEAM IN COMBINATION WITH DR. LIMBO STEAM, I COULDN'T EVEN ANSWER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BUT OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS IF SOMEBOD IS COMING INTO THIS AND DEVELOPING THIS. THEY TEND TO VEST THE RIGHT OR DEVELOPING TO A CERTAIN CODE AT CERTAIN STAGES IN THE PROCESS. >> YOU DON'T INVEST IN ZONING. SO DON'T USE THAT WORD FAST. [01:55:03] THAT IS A MISNOMER. IT IS A STATE LAW THAT SAYS A RATE WILL ACCRUE WHEN YOU FOUL PERMIT SO YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PERMIT. THE ZONING AMENDMENT OUR APPLICATION IS NOT A PERMIT. SO THERE IS CASE LAW PUTS OUT DON'T TALK ABOUT THE VESTED RIGHTS. >> OF WHAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT TERM CORRECT. >> IF THEY WERE TO FOUL A PERMI AND ACCRUE THEIR RIGHTS. YOU BROUGHT LIKE GET YOUR CODE AND SAY PERMITTED USES AND THEY CAN GO TO SITE PLAN AND THEY CA GO TO PLANNING AND GO TO SOME PERMIT PROCESS. ZONING IS NOT A PERMIT PROCESS. >> ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. WE'VE HAD THAT ISSUE WHERE THEY BASICALLY BUILT THE HOUSE IN TH BACKYARD. >> AS PRESENTED TO US, AND THEN THEY WANT AN END TO. ASSISTED LIVING, NURSING HOMES, OR CONDITIONAL, THOSE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS. >> EXPLAIN SUB. >> EVERY SU P-LETTER PROCESS HA TO GO THROUGH PNZ AND THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH US. >> SPECIAL USE PERMIT. THEY ARE PERMITTED BY BRIGHT AN IF YOU CUT THE LAB AND I NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUTE HAVE A MODULAR HOME AND WE CHANGE THAT TO CONDITIONAL GIVEN THE CONDITIONS THAT ALLOW THAT FOR THE MULTIFAMILY DWELLING PUT IN BY RIGHT WOULD BE IN ANY COMMERCIAL AREA, AT DWELLING MULTIPLEX, THAT WAS BY RIGHT AN WE CHANGE THAT TO AN SU P-LETTER . EACH ONE OF THESE WAS CONDITIONAL IN 1 AND 2 IN A PERMIT BY LIGHT -- BY RIGHT, AND WE HAD AN SU P-LETTER ON ALL THREE OF THOSE. INDEPENDENT LIVING FACILITIES I PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN COMMERCIA A CONVENIENCE STORE WAS CONDITIONAL, WHICH MEANS YOU GOTTA FOLLOW CERTAIN CONDITIONS BY RIGHT, WE CHANGE THAT TO SUP. AT ANY COMMERCIAL AREA WE CHANG THAT TO A SUP. I GET SOME OF THE CONCERN. ALL WE'VE DONE IS MAKE THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO BUILD IN HUTTO COME UP WE HAVE CHANGED THAT BY LAW AND BAR DOTTY SAID YOU CAN'T DO THAT. WE MADE IT A SUP PROCESS FROM DAYCARE'S BECAUSE TO CONVENIENC STORES AND RETAIL. RETAIL WAS ALLOWED IN CERTAIN AREAS AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH AN IF YOU WANT TO SOLVE FARM PRODUCTS IN THAT STUFF, IT WAS ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN CERTAIN AREAS. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A LARGE ITE SALES AND RENTAL, IT'S PERMITTE BY RIGHT IN AREAS THROUGH SUP. SO WE WENT THROUGH LINE BY LINE. THAT WAS 2-3 TIMES BACK IN DECEMBER AND JANUARY AND I WOUL THINK THAT IS WHERE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE NOT CONDITIONAL BUT IT SHOULD BE A SUP. A STORE SHOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT DOWNTOWN THROUGH A SUP. PERSONAL LOAN SERVICES. PAWNSHOP. YOU HAVE TO HIT CONDITIONS IN COMMERCIAL, THAT WAS OWNED BY RIGHT. AT TRUCKSTOP ABOUT WE PUT SUP O TRUCKSTOP'S BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING HERE TO TRY TO BUILD ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN WHENEVER THEY WANT. I DON'T KNOW. TO ME I'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY AND THEIR COMMENTS WERE NOTIFICATION, TYPOS, WHICH I GET , WITH GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. >> HERE'S MY RECOMMENDATION ON THAT BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT. SO IN THE OLD CODE IT IS UNDER 10.20 1.2 AND IT IS ON PAGES 4 AND 5 AT 6. MY RECOMMENDATION IS YOU TAKE THAT NOTICE PROFESSION FROM 10.201.2 AND NOW IN YOUR NEW UDC , YOU HAVE PROCEDURES. SO THEY MOVED THAT SECTIONS OVE [02:00:06] TO CHAPTER 9 AND IT IS 10.90 1.2 . SO JUST DELETE THE NEW POSSESSIONS AND PUT THAT ALL PROVISIONS IN THERE AND THAT WA YOU WILL PRESERVE THE HEART NOTICE. >> THAT IS MY MOTION. >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMEN ABOUT THE DATA CENTERS. IT REQUIRES AN TANTRA PIE SO THAT AS AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING FOR THAT IS DISCRETIONARY. COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE TO APPROV THAT AND THE 1025 IS THE ONE THAT CAME BEFORE A COUNCIL ADDE A LOT OF CONDITIONS TO IT. CURRENTLY THE GOVERNMENT HAS PU KIND OF A HALT ON DATA CENTERS AND IS DOING AN AUDIT AND THE EFFECT IT IS GOING TO HAVE ON THE GRID. AND THEN THE COUNCIL HAS A CONSULTANT THAT WE ARE GOING TO GO OUT WITH AN RFQ SO YOU'RE NO UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO APPROVE ANY DATA CENTERS UNTIL YOU GET ALL THIS INFORMATION. [INDISCERNIBLE] IF THEY WANT EXTRA HEIGHT, ASK FOR IT. >> IT IS A SUP. REMEMBER THE COMMENT THAT I MADE , THEY CAN COME IN AND KYLE WE WANT THIS SUP APPROVED AND W GET ALL THESE RIGHTS. IT CAN'T BE MORE THAN 10 FEET TALL AND CAN'T BE BIGGER THAN 5,000 SQUARE-FOOT BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE, WE ARE LIKE MOTION TO APPROVE THE SUP. WHICH IS WHY WE DID ALL THINGS WITH SUP. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> NO, IT IS IN THERE. IT IS IN THERE. >> IT IS A M DISTRICT. >> IT IS IN THE 2024. SINCE THEN YOU HAD 12 APPLY FOR A SUP. IF IT WASN'T, THEY WOULD'VE NOTIFIED BUT ANYBODY COMING THROUGH HAS TO NOTIFY WITHIN 60. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT A GOOD THING. IT IS IN THE 2024 CODE. >> WE PUT SAID RECOMMEND BACK IN . WE WANT TO INCREASE THINGS AND THAT UDC WHEN IT COMES TO DATA CENTERS. >> WE ALSO MENTIONED HOLDING OF OUR STUDY AS WELL BECAUSE WE WANTED TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE CONCERNS, THE SOUNDS, SUCH AS THE LOW FREQUENCY, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE BROUGHT UP AS WELL. >> AND OUR CURRENT CODE, THE CURRENT CODE REGULATES SOUND, NOISE, VIBRATIONS AND AS WE CHANGE THAT, PEOPLE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CHANGES. MI RIGHT IN SAYING THAT? >> YES. YOU CAN PROVE IT TODAY. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VIBRATIO THING ISN'T SO WE CANNOT DO IT AND YOU KILLS CAN'T -- AND YOU STILL CAN'T STOP ANYTHING FROM HAPPENING. 'S SO ONCE WE IDENTIFY WHAT WAN THOSE TO BE, PEOPLE ARE GOING T HAVE TO START FOLLOWING THAT. SO IF YOU ARE NOT BESIDE THAT COME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT. SO WE ARE ABLE TO COME UP BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A BUBBLE. IT IS A LIVING DOCUMENT. AS WE ARE ARE KIND OF SEEING [02:05:04] HERE. AND HERE IS WHERE I AM PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS BOOT WE'V HAD A CHICKEN SMOKING, I FORGOT WHAT IT IS CALLED. IT WAS GOING TO BUILD NEXT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AND I TOLD PEOPLE THAT THEN, WHEN I DRIVE BY THE ONE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS ON FIRE . THERE'S JUST THE FOG EVERYWHERE AND THERE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT T A NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN 600 FEET. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM HAVE A SMOKE SCRUB ON IT AT I WAS THE THAT WANTED THE SMOKE SCRUBBER AND THE COUNCIL OF TIME SO THEY DON'T NEED IT BUT THEY ARE GOIN TO DO AND I SAID I WANT TO END THE SUP TO HAVE IT AND WE DIDN' DO IT AND SO I HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THAT MY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STUFF LIKE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY DETRIMENTAL. I SAID I DON'T WANT TO SMELL IT 24 HOURS A DAY AND BE DRIVING THROUGH FOG EVERY DAY IN THE MORNING. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE CITY AND WE KEEP TELLING EVERYBODY WE CAN'T STOP IT. ALL WE'VE DONE IS TRIED TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING WE ENCOUNTER FOR 2-3 YEARS. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ARE SEEING THAT. EVERYTHING IS BENT TO MAKE IT TOUGHER ON PEOPLE TO DEVELOP BECAUSE WHEN EVERYBODY IS GOING TO DEVELOP, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T BE TOUGHER ON THEM TO MAK THEM BUILD BETTER AND HAVE HIGHER STANDARDS, SETBACKS, FENCES, AND ALL THAT STOP IT I LOVE RIO BUT WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE LET RIO BUILT 500 FEET WITHIN A PERSON'S BACK FENCE. >> OR HOTELS WITH LIGHTS AROUND THE WINDOWS. >> I BELIEVE THAT IS IN OUR COD AND THAT IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT THING. >> WE ALSO DISCUSSED SETBACKS AND BUMPERS AND ALL THESE KIND OF CHANGES. [INDISCERNIBLE] THIS IS WHAT SOMEONE RENOVATING THEIR OWN HOME CAN EXPECT. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING. WITH LUCK THAT THREES. PARKING WAS ONE. UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT A BETTE WAY BECAUSE I THINK THE AD HOC COMMITTEE HAD RECOMMENDED TO STRIKE IT ALTOGETHER. WE DO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE RIDICULOUS PARKING REQUIREMENTS LIKE IF YOU WORK AT HOME DEPOT, THEY HAVE A PLETHORA OF PARKING THAT NEVER GETS UTILIZED SO WANTED TO LOOK AT THAT AND WE AGREE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE SOME REQUIREMENT BUT WANTED TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE BUSINESS HAS A BETTER INSIGHT ON THE PARKING THAT WE NEED BUT IN THEISTS INSTANCE THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, I THINK TH HOTEL IN USING THAT LIMITED PARKING OVER BY CHIP HOLY AND OVER BY -- THEY CALL THAT A CIVIL MATTER. >> YOU HAVE A PARKING EASEMENT. WE COULD MAKE UP FOR THE LACK O PARKING. NOT HOME DEPOT BUT THE BARBERSHOP, OKAY. YOU KNOW BUT, TYPICALLY YOU NEE 3-4. AND WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. IT IS YOUR BUSINESS. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT OR YOU [02:10:09] DON'T. SO IF YOU IMPLEMENTED THAT CAMILLE GOT UP MINIMAL PARKING. THAT PARKING IS OWNED BY THE CITY. GOING TO HAVE TO GO FIND THAT BECAUSE THAT IS CITY PARKING. SO YOU'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL WIT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING IN THE CHAPTER 1 AND TEAM, WHICH WE WILL LOOK AT LATER. SO I WILL ASK YOU TO FOCUS ON -- AND REMEMBER IT IS ON THE AGEND PACKET ON THE WEBSITE AND SO IT STARTS AT PAGE 88 AND IT ENDS A PAGE 300 SOME. AND I HAVE THE CHAPTERS ON THE NUMBERS IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC CHAPTER. >> P&Z IS ABSOLUTELY 100% -- [INDISCERNIBLE] WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE YOU WIT A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT. WHAT IS ON THE WEBSITE. THE CURRENT UDC THAT I'VE BEEN THROUGH, REALLY THE INTENT IS I THINK SOME OF THE REVISIONS THA WERE OKAY, NOTHING WAS A SHOWSTOPPER. MOST OF THE STUFF THAT ASK FOR DEVIATIONS ANYWAY. AND YOU WILL BE SEEING THAT IN THE UDC ANYWAY. >> I'VE GOT A QUESTION. SO WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING AND LISTENING TO, THE PERCEPTION THAT I AM RECEIVING HERE IS IF WE ADOPT THIS, THE PERCEPTION FROM. IT IS A DONE DEAL AND IT IS LOCKED. IT IS WHAT IT IS. HOWEVER, LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT THAT IS NO NECESSARILY THE CASE. IN THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PUBLI BROUGHT BEFORE US WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT THOSE AS PART OF THIS. MI TRACKING? IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THAT. IS EVERYBODY OKAY THAT WE FIX THE TYPO ISSUE. >> OKAY, PLEASE. CAN YOU REPEAT THE MOTION. IT'S BEING APPROVED AS PRESENT TO PUT THE CHANGE UP THE NOTICE SECTION. THE CURRENT COULD BE PUT INTO SECTION TWO POINTS 0.901 A PROCEDURES. SO THERE IS NO CHANGE ON NOTIFICATION. AND UP THE TYPOS ARE RESOLVED. >> TYPOS AND SOME OF THE MEMO THAT I DID. , THE TYPOS AND THE NUMBERING. I DID ASK A QUESTION I SAW A LO OF HEADS NOD YES. WITH ONE HAND RAISE. IS THAT OKAY TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC OR IS THAT CLOSED? >> THE PUBLIC IS CLOSED. ANY DISCUSSION APPEAR? [02:15:07] >> I WANT TO POINT OUT IN YOUR ORDINANCE, WE DID INCLUDE THE ENGINEERING DESIGN MANUAL BUT W DID PUT IN THE NOTICE EVERYBODY CAN GET USED TO THE NEW CHANGES. THE ORDINANCE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT TODAY. SO THAT THE ORDINANCE THAT IS O THE PACKET ON THE WEBSITE. THAT IS FINE. ARE YOU READY? >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BUT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK YET. FOR SUPPER THANK YOU BUDDY FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. THE NOTIFICATION ISSUE ACTUALLY CAME UP IN 2019. THAT IS WHEN IT WAS ADDED IN TH FIRST PLACE BECAUSE THERE WAS A HOTEL APPROVED AND HARDLY ANY ACTUAL NUMBERS UP PUBLIC BECAUS 200 FEET DOESN'T REALLY GO VERY FAR FROM THAT LOCATION OUT TO ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SALT THAT WAS KIND OF WHAT REALLY GOT THE BALL ROLLING ON THAT WITH THAT CHANGE BEING MADE . I WAS HAPPY WHEN THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME TOOK ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO HEART AND ACTUALLY MADE THE CHANGE BUT STILL THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING DOWN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GOT MISSED ALONG THE WAY. WE ARE GETTING THAT ADDRESSED AND FIXED. >> PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. >> YOU GUYS WANT TO HANG OUT. WE ARE GOING TO BE HERE UNTIL 2. >> HE WILL. WITH THAT I WILL ADJOURN THE P& PORTION AT 9:22:00 P.M. [8.3. Conduct a public hearing and consider possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-202 approving Amendment No. 2 to the Strategic Partnership Agreement with the Williamson County Municipal Utility District No. 22 with the City of Hutto and clarify the purposes of limited-purpose annexation of property previously annexed into the City under the agreement to include allowing the sale of all types of alcohol within the property annexed for limited purposes and providing for the collection of a mixed beverage sales tax. (Legal)] >> THANK YOU. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R2026-2-YOU COME APPROVING MEMO NUMBER TWO DUE TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHI AGREEMENT WITH THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT NUMBER 22 WITH THE CIT OF HUTTO AND CLARIFY THE MULTIPLE PURPOSES OF LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY ANNEXED INTO THE CIT UNDER THE AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE ALLOWING THE SALE OF ALL TYPES OF ALCOHOL UP WITHIN THE PROPERTY ANNEXED FOR LIMITED PURPOSES IN PROVIDING FOR THE COLLECTION OF A MIXED BEVERAGE SALES TAX. >> ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO COME U AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, COME UP. WE DON'T HAVE SPEAKERS VERY OFTEN, AS YOU CAN SEE. >> I AM BLAKE AND I'M ONE OF TH DEVELOPERS AND WE ARE DOING THI AND TRYING TO ATTRACT RESTAURANTS, FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANTS REQUIRE LIQUOR LICENSES. THERE'S LAWS AROUND HERE THAT I DID KNOW ABOUT UNTIL WE TRIED T HAVE A BUFFALO WILD WINGS. >> YOU CAN SELL WE'RE AND WINE. IF YOU TRY TO SELL AN OLD-FASHIONED MARGARITA, YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN -- >> WE HAVE. YOU CAN'T HAVE MIXED DRINKS. >> YOU CAN SELL LIQUOR TOAST YO CAN HAVE TWIN LIQUORS OR SOMETHING BUT NOT THE STRONG [02:20:03] STUFF. >> THERE ARE EIGHT DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS. I'VE HEARD A BETTER TERM THAT WET, DRY, MOIST, DAMP. >> A LOT OF THINGS I DIDN'T KNO ABOUT UNTIL I WENT DOWN THIS PATH. >> POTENTIALLY BUFFALO WILD WINGS -- >> AND POTENTIALLY OTHER RETAIL. THE AREA TO THE NORTHSTAR RANCH THAT STARTED IN 2026 -- 2006. AND THEN THE ORIGINAL PART BECOMES [INDISCERNIBLE] WE WILL CLOSE AT 9:25:00 P.M. QUESTIONS ARE ACTIONS? MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE R-2026- 202. DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> ON THE AI ARE IT SAYS THIS I THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS . >> IF THE SECOND. IT WAS MADE BY ME. SORRY. >> ALL THIS IS A SECOND UP THE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS. PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. [8.4. Conduct apublic hearing and consider possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-203 approving Amendment No. 2 to the Strategic Partnership Agreement with the Williamson County Water, Sewer, Irrigation, and Drainage District No. 3 with the City of Hutto and clarify the purposes of limited-purpose annexation of property previously annexed into the City under the agreement to include allowing the sale of all types of alcohol within the property annexed for limited purposes and providing for the collection of a mixed beverage sales tax. (Legal)] NEXT IS ITEM EIGHT-POINT FOR COMING DOC A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSH SOBEL ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-203 APPROVING A MEMO NUMBER TO MAKE TO THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT WITH THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY WATER, SEWER, IRRIGATION AND DRAINAGE DISTRICT NUMBER THREE MET WITH THE CITY OF HUTT AND CLARIFY THE PURPOSES OF LIMITED PURPOSE ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY ANNEXED INT THE CITY UNDER THE AGREEMENT TO INCLUDE ALLOWING THE SALE OF AL TYPES OF ALCOHOL BUT THE PROPERTY ANNEXED WERE LIMITED PURPOSE OF PROVIDING FOR THE COLLECTION OF A MIXED BEVERAGE SALES TAX. OPEN AT 9:26:00 P.M. OPENED IT UP FOR DISCUSSION OR ACTION. >> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-203. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. SECOND BY AARON KING. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. [9. CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS] NEXT WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 9. 1-9.9 FOR CONSIDERATION . >> THIS WAS CONTINGENT UPON A LOCAL MEETING EARLIER TODAY AND THEY FAILED TO MEET A QUORUM SO WE HAD TO REVISE THE ORDINANCE IN THE PAYMENT COME AND YOU WOULD SEEK REIMBURSEMENT FROM THE ALGAE SEE ON THE ITEM. SO I ASKED THAT YOU PULL IT. >> ANY OTHER ITEMS TO PULL OUR WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> MOANED MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING. MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE NINE PART ONE, 9.2, 9.3, 9.4, 9.6, 9.7, 9.8. 9.9. CALL FOR THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. ITEM 9.5, HOW DO WE SAY THAT. [9.5. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-058 amending the FY 2027 Budget for expenditures of the Hotel Tax Fund, Economic Development Fund and River Creek Development Corporation. (Alberta Barrett)] WE WILL POSTPONE -- >> NO, WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT. WE'VE EXPLAINED THE AMENDMENTS TO THE ORDINANCE AND WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THE FUNDING TO PAY THE JUDGMENTS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PAY THEM BY TOMORROW, WE START ACCRUING MORE INTEREST. ALBERTA BARRETT, FINANCE FOR TH RECORD. SO AS DOTTIE STATED, WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM FOR THE RIVER CREEK DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION MEETING SO BASED ON THAT, WHAT WE NEED TODAY OR THIS EVENING A THE REVISED AMOUNT THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO PAY IS [02:25:09] $763,934.38 FOR THE SETTLEMENT. AGAIN, COMMIT IS ACCRUING DAILY TO MISS OUT THAT IS WHY WE MADE THE DECISION SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM. THAT IS WHAT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS IN YOUR PACK. WE WILL PAY FROM THE GENERAL FUND PAID RIVER CREEK WAS GOING TO PAY IT. BASED ON TODAY, THE 763,934.38, WE WILL GET REIMBURSEMENT FROM RIVER CREEK DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION ONCE WE HAVE THAT MEETING WITH THEM, WHICH WE WIL TRY TO SCHEDULE AS MAY BE AS NEXT WEEK AND THEN ONCE WE GET THAT, WE WILL GET REIMBURSED. >> WHO WAS ON THAT? DO WE HAVE ANY CONCERNS? >> I'M ON THAT. >> CHARLES, DAN, NGM. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? >> JUST FOR RIVER CREEK. >> DAN, JIM, AND CHARLES. >> JUST TO CLARIFY HOW THE PAYMENTS ARE GOING TO GO, IT IS BASICALLY FOR ATTORNEY FEES. THERE WAS NO JUDGMENT AGAINST THE CITY. IT UP WAS 462,108 POINTS FOR THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PRESTON HOLLOW, ONE OF THE DEFENDANTS. 176665.33 FOR THE PFA PLAINTIFF -- I MEAN, DEFENDANT PIT AND THEN 125171, LONGHORN LITIGATION ALS WAS SCOTT SOME ATTORNEY FEES, 195,000. >> THAT WAS NOT PART OF TODAY'S AMENDMENT P-LETTER OR THAT WILL BE HELD AT A LATER MEETING. >> SO ALL WE HAVE FOR DEBATE IS THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AND THE PAYMENT FOR THE RIVER CREEK, WHICH IS THE 760 THROUGHOUT SOM 93438. >> WITH THE MEMO OUT THE AMOUNT TO THE $760,934.38 TO PAY FOR THE GENERAL FUND TO BE REIMBURSED BY RIVER CREEK. >> SECOND. WAS IT 934.38? >> CORRECT. IT WILL BE A LUMP SUM. IT'S GOT TO GO TO THOSE OTHER -- >> YES, OKAY. >> PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. [10.1. Consideration and possible action on Ordinance No. O-2026-061 amending the City of Hutto Code of Ordinances to adopt Chapter 17, Signs. (Legal)] PASSES 7-0. >> THANK YOU. >> ITEM 10.1, CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O-2026-061 AMENDING THE CITY OF HUTTO CODE OF ORDINANCE TO ADOPT CHAPTER 17 SIGNED. >> YOU HAVE THE NEW SIGN ORDINANCE AT YOUR-THERE THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MORE CORRECTION THAT NEED TO BE MADE PAPER TRIE TO FIND EVERYTHING BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE, 17.01.003, THAT IS REALLY A SECTION THAT THE TABBING IS OFF AND THEN IF YOU TURN TO THE SECOND PAGE AND YOU SEE THE RED IN THE ORDINANCE WAS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WE ADDED TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE THAT WASN'T IN THE ORDINANCE THAT THE CONSULTANT RECOMMENDED, BUT THA 17.01.00 3-POINT THREE SETS ANOTHER TAB THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED. AND THEN THAT IS ALL I GOT FOR RIGHT NOW. AND IF YOU WOULD INCLUDE ANY OTHER CLERICAL ERRORS COULD BE DID MAKE AN EFFORT TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP. >> THIS IS OTHER THAN THE 17.1.014 AND ZERO FIVE? , THE ADMINISTRATION. THE REST IS STRAIGHT OUT OF CODE ? >> NO, IT IS WHAT COUNCIL DIRECTED DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ISSUES THE PERMIT AND THE APPEALS GO TO COUNCIL BEFORE GOING TO P&Z IN THE MAY STILL HAVE THE RIGHT FOR A VARIANCE A THERE SOMETHING YOU NEEDED OUT THERE BESIDES THE LITERAL ORDINANCE WOULD BE HARDSHIP ON SOME. [02:30:03] SO IF WE COULD JUST ADD THE MASTER SIGNS. >> THE MAIN POINT OF THIS IS TO .0 OF THE UDC. >> IN CHAPTER 17. >> BECAUSE I HAVEN'T READ IT. I PLAN TO VOTE TO DO THIS BID W JUST GOT THIS. >> WEEKEND POSTPONE IT TO THE NEXT AGENDA IF YOU WANT TO. WE HAVE 30 DAY IMPLEMENTATION. >> I DON'T MIND HAVING IT SEPARATE. ONE IS ADMINISTRATION AND HOW YOU APPEAL IT. WERE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE GO THROUGH THIS IN TERM OF THE PROCESS. >> THE IMPORTANT THING IS WON'T BE A ZONING AMENDMENT ANYMORE. >> SOLD THIS LAND -- LAST TEN PAGES OF REDLINE CAME FROM THERE. >> THESE ARE MASTER SIGN PLANS PAY ARE THE MASTER SIGN PLANS, BUT IT WAS MORE ROBUST, I GUESS THE IT IS NOT LEGALISTIC. IT'S MAKING SURE THAT WHEN YOU SUBMIT A MASTER SIGN PLAN, THE STAFF HAS SOMETHING OF MAKING A APPLICATION AT THE UDC. AND IT SHOULD BE EASIER TO USE. WHO PROVIDED THIS WAS STAFF? >> WITH LUCK THAT OTHER ORDINANCES THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND FOUND THAT THESE WERE THE MOST REVISIONS THAT WE ARE USING . >> YOU GUYS ARE PRETTY GOOD. I HOPE YOUR STAFF GOES THROUGH THIS QUICKLY AND FIGURES OUT HO TO SIMPLIFY IT. AT EVERY SIGN JUST GETS PRESENTED TO US. AS COMPLICATED AS IT IS TODAY, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. THERE'S GOTTA BE A WAY TO MAKE IT EASIER AND I KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT EVERYBODY FRO EVERYTHING WHAT WE SET AS IF YO GUYS DON'T SIMPLIFY, WE WILL JUST CUT IT OUT COMPLETELY. I THOUGHT WE CUT OUT A LOT. AND THAT IS DIFFERENT FROM CITY TO CITY. I KNOW THE INTENT IS -- EVERYBODY WANTS A SIGN PUTATIVELY WHAT'S A SIX-POINT MONUMENT. THEY HAVE TERRIBLE SIGNS. THEY LOOK TERRIBLE. IN THEIR WHOLE SIGNS ARE IN THE MURPHY'S GAS STATION, TERRIBLE. AND THEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIKE CHICK-FIL-A THAT'S DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB BUT I DON'T KNO HOW YOU MAKE THEM ALL LOOK. HOW ARE THEY LIKE CHICK-FIL-A AND NOT LIKE DISCOUNT TIRE. >> WE -- MOTION TO APPROVE O-2026-061 AS AMENDED. >> SECOND. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO DELAY ON THIS, DO YOU? >> FOR THE MOST PART THAT IS EXACT SAME THING THAT WE HAVE. >> LET'S CALL THE BOAT. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION O [11.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-209 of the City Council of the City of Hutto, Texas, approving the form and authorizing the distribution of a Preliminary Limited Offering Memorandum for "City of Hutto, Texas Special Assessment Revenue Bonds, Series 2026 (Limmer Square Public Improvement District Area #1). (Alberta Barrett)] RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-209 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, PROVING THE FORM AND AUTHORIZING THE DISTRIBUTIO OF A PRELIMINARY LIMITING OFFERING MEMORANDUM OF THE CITY OF HUTTO, TEXAS, SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVENUE BONDS SERIES 2026. >> ALBERTA BARRETT, FINANCE [02:35:05] DIRECTOR. THIS ITEM IS ESSENTIALLY THE NEXT SCHEDULED ITEM WILL AND TH PLAN BOUGHT ISSUANCE FOR THE PUBLIC DISTRICT, AREA NUMBER 1. AND YOU ALSO SCHEDULE THE PUBLI HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 5. AND IT WILL ALLOW THE TEAM TO G OUT AND -- AND THE REMAINING SCHEDULED IS THAT BONSALL SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 5. THERE WILL BE A CORRESPONDING COUNCIL ITEM OR YOU WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE BOND SALE. THE SALE WOULD BE SCHEDULED TO CLOSE NOVEMBER 19. AND THEN THAT ANSWERS SOME OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE BUT THIS IS A PRETTY ROUTINE ITEM IS PART OF ALL OF OUR BOND ISSUANCES. IT WITH THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. >> QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? >> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-209. >> SECOND. >> AND A DISCUSSION THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. R-2026-204 -- [11.2. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-210 approving the First Amended and Restated Development Agreement by and between the City of Hutto and Atlantic Urbana Acquisition Company, LLC, Atlantic Urbana II Cottonwood Creek, LLC, and Atlantic Urbana II Cottonwood Creek Lot 1, LLC relating to the project known as Urbana at Cottonwood Creek. (Sara Cervantes)] >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT ITEM 11-POINT TO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION O RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-210 APPROVING THE FIRST AMENDED AND RESTATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTT AND ATLANTIC URBANA ACQUISITION COMPANY LLC, ATLANTIC BANNER 2 COTTONWOOD CREEK LLC AND ATLANTIC BANNOCK COTTONWOOD CREEK A LOT OF 1, LLC RELATED TO THE PROJECT KNOWN AS URBANA AT COTTONWOOD CREEK. >> SARA CERVANTES. THIS IS CONSIDERED A COUPLE ITEMS AND IT IS LISTED SPECIFICALLY HERE THAT WILL RECOGNIZE THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PHASE ONE MECCA DUMA PROPERTY RESPECTIVELY. AND CONFIRMING THAT OBLIGATIONS ON THE RESIDENTIAL ASPECT HALF BEEN FULLY SATISFIED AND THE APPLICATIONS FOR TWO OF THE COMMERCIAL ASPECTS ARE STILL STANDING. THE DEVELOPER AS A MEANS TO CLARIFY FOR SOME OF THE FINANCING PARTNERS COME IN THE FINANCING PARTNERS WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THEY HAD SATISFIED AL OF THEIR PRESIDENTIAL COMPONENT BECAUSE OF COMMUNING TAKING OVE THAT COMMERCIAL ASPECT AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE LIABLE AND THA MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN SATISFIED. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> SORRY. IT IS A HABIT. I HAVE TO LEARN TO TALK SLOWER. >> THE FIRST ONE IS MOSTLY PRESIDENTIAL. >> CORRECT. >> AND IT CHANGES UPON OWNERSHI STRUCTURES. >> CORRECT. >> IT IS ALMOST LIKE AN ESTOPPE IN A WAY. >> CORRECT. >> CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. PERFECT. HERE IS OUR READERS DIGEST SALT THE PARCEL OF THE PHASE I HAS COMPLETED ALL OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS AND EVERYTHING'S BEEN ATTEMPTED BY THE CITY AS A RELATES TO THAT PHASE AND THAT PINK AREA RIGHT THERE AT ALL OF THEIR OBLIGATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW TO MAKE THAT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ARE STILL ATTACHED IN THAT. ZERO RIGHT ON TRACK PICKED BC THIS QUITE A BIT WITH DEVELOPER BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO IT ANYWAY GET RID OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT I'M THE TYPE THE THINGS THAT AMENDING AND RESTATING SOME HAVE A PATH OF TRACK OF WHAT IS HAPPENED TO DATE IS VERY IMPORTANT. >> I STILL LOVE THE CONCEPT AND I KNOW EVERYBODY LIKES IT BUT T ME IT IS A MISSING METAL TO ME. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-210. >> ANY DISCUSSION. HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. [11.3. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2026-211 on the Second Amendment to the Development Agreement by and between the City of Hutto and Limmer Holdings, LLC. (Sara Cervantes)] [02:40:09] >> NEXT WE HAVE 11.3, CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTIO OF RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-211 ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BY AND BETWEEN THE CITY OF HUTTO AND LIMBER HOLDINGS LLC. >> THE AGREEMENT WAS APRIL 17 O 2025 AND THIS IS FORMALLY PEARL STATES AND NOW IF YOU LOOK IN THE UPPER RIGHT, THERE IS THAT BURNT ORANGE COLOR. THAT IS CURRENTLY SLATED UNDER THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO BE HIGHER DENSITY MULTIFAMILY AND THE DEVELOPER IS SEEKING THE ABILITY TO DO WITH THE WORD DENSITY TOWNHOMES OUT THERE LOOKING AT CHANGING PARCEL 6 FROM ONLY MULTIFAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY OR TOWNHOME DEPENDING ON THE MARKET TICKETS BEEN COMMUNICATED FROM COUNCIL AND PREVIOUS SCENARIOS WERE CITY 'S FAVORITE THIS AND WOULDN'T BE A GUARANTEE AT THAT BECAUSE OF THAT WAR AND THAT IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS SAYING HERE. >> MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION R-2026-211. >> SECOND. >> MOTION BY MAYOR PRO TEM PORTERFIELD. SECOND BY -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO YOUR NAME. WE DON'T CALL IT REYNOLDS. WHERE YOU FROM. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE BOAT. [12.1. Consideration and possible action approving Resolution No. R-2026-212, authorizing staff to waive City of Hutto administrative fees associated with the voluntary annexation process for property owners requesting annexation for inclusion in an election to allow distilled spirits alcohol sales as a use. (Sara Cervantes)] NEXT ITEM TO HELP AT ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBERED R-2026-212 AUTHORIZING STAFF TO WAGE CITY OF HUTTO ADMINISTRATIVE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE VOLUNTARY ANNEXATION PROCESS FOR PROPERTY OWNERS REQUESTING ANNEXATION FOR INCLUSION IN AN ELECTION TO ALLOW DISTILLED. ALCOHOL SALES AS A USE. >> I WOULD WAIVE ANY ANNEXATION WAY. I DON'T WANT TO JUMP YOUR PRESENTATION BUT HOW MUCH ARE THE FEES? >> IT DEPENDS BUT I ACTUALLY JUST LOST MY MANAGER AND I WAS GOING TO BRING YOU -- IN THIS INSTANCE, WILL HAVE ABOUT EIGHT PROPERTIES ON FOUL FOR THIS PARTICULAR PURPOSE. I CAN GET YOU A FULL RUN OF THOSE NUMBERS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND GET AN AVERAGE RUN OF NUMBERS TO ANYBODY WHO I VOLUNTARILY CALLING IN. I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS UP THE TOP OF MY HEAD. >> I WAS JUST WONDERING FROM A POLICY STANDPOINT SINCE YOU CAN'T FORCE THE ANTICS. >> FOUR SURE, FOR SURE. IF YOU'RE TELLING ME IT IS $20,000 -- >> IT IS NOT THAT MUCH. >> AND THE OTHER THING IS IF YO HAVE A MAP, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT IS 40 ACRES VERSUS HUNDRED OF ACRES OR 10 ACRES. WHAT WOULD BE IF WAS COMMERCIALIZED. >> IT IS WHAT WE CHARGED TO PROCESS AND ANNEXATION PETITION. >> THAT WAY WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE. I AGREE WITH THAT. WE CAN'T INVOLUNTARILY ANNEX ANYONE ANYMORE PICKS WITH THE DECISION IS WE DON'T CHARGE FEE FOR ANNEXATION, THAT IS DEFECTIVELY EVERY ANNEXATION SO THERE WILL BE NO FEES AT ALL. >> SO IS JUST FOR FUTURE, $500 DEAL. AT THE $500 DEAL BUT I DON'T WANT TO CHARGE THAT BUT I'M JUS SAYING JUST COME ON IN. BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO BRING THAT BACK AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. >> IT IS GOING TO BE AROUND ABOUT 25-5,000. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER R-2026-212. WHO WAS THE SECOND? ME. >> I KNEW HE PUT LIKE THAT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T LIKE CHARGIN FEES FOR ANYTHING. >> TAXES AND FEES COME OUT ON THE HOW WE ARE GOING TO DO IT. [12.2. Discussion and possible action on a sales tax audit of City of Hutto and Hutto ETJ sales taxpayers. (Mike Snyder)] [02:45:23] TWELFTH S2, I BROUGHT THIS UP PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE SALES TAX AND LECTER BILLS MAYBE I WAS TALKING TO DAVID AMSLER FOR DIVINE PAYING 850, HOW DO WE KNOW -- >> CORRECT. HOW DO WE KNOW WE EVEN GET ANYTHING. AND THEN I START WONDERING ABOU THE ET J, TO BE QUITE HONEST. WHO IS PAYING THOSE SALES TAX PICKS WIFE UNDERSTAND THE RULES CORRECTLY, WE CAN DIRECT STAFF TO CONTACT THE OFFICE MAKE GET YOU GUYS THAT INFORMATION IN SOMEWHAT OF A CONFIDENTIAL -- BUT YOU GUYS CAN LOOK AND SEE HOW MANY DIFFERENT HOMES ARE PAYING SALES TAX OF WHAT THAT NUMBER IS, BUSINESSES BID FROM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, I THINK WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, THIS IS THE WRONG WAY. I'M NOT SAYING FOR AGAINST IT BUT THE SALES TAX OF CONSTRUCTION OF A DATA CENTER, THE EQUIPMENT AND ALL THAT. WITH THE STATE POTENTIALLY TAKING THE EXEMPTION AWAY. IF YOU BUILD YOU CAN HAVE AN EXEMPTION. >> I HAD MENTIONED TO YOU THAT I'VE RESEARCH THAT I DON'T THIN THEY GET EXEMPT ONLY ON STATE. >> THAT IS THE WAY THE LORD READS. >> I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. AND THE COMPTROLLER HAS OF THIS AGREEMENT THAT IS SOMETHING THA DOES GO AWAY. BUT WHAT MADE ME THINK ABOUT THIS WAS THAT THE DATA CENTER USES THE POWER, A MILLION HOMES WITH THE POWER AND OF THE AVERAGE HOME IS PAYING $5 A MONTH IN TAXES, THAT DATA CENTE DIRECTLY WOULD BE PAYING 5 MILLION A MONTH IN SALES TAX. I THINK IT IS 16 MILLION A YEAR IN SALES TAX PAID SO ONE DATA CENTER WHERE EVERYBODY'S ARGUIN ABOUT THE SALES TAX, THE SHE ROCK IN IT, IT IS ELECTRICITY GENERATING THAT GOES TO -- 1979 THAT PRODUCTION IN THE RETAIL SALE OF ELECTRICITY AND GAS SO IT'S GOT ME LIKE, HOLY COW, THAT POWER PLANT THAT MAY WANT TO BUILD BOTH NATURAL GAS, WE POTENTIALLY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAX THEM ON THE SALE OF THE NATURAL GAS TO THE POWER PLANT BUT THEN WE WOULD TAX THE POWERPLANT ON THE SALE OF ELECTRICITY AND THAT I WAS LIKE OKAY, THE I WAS JUST LIKE WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE GETTING THE SALES TAX FROM AND WHERE WE COULD BE GETTING IT FROM. AND MAYBE WE NEED TO BE MAKING ECONOMIC DECISIONS. AT THIS BUT OVERHEAR, IF YOU SCREEN IT RIGHT, AND YOU PUT IT ON THE CORNER BY A RAILROAD TRACK AND THE BABY THAT IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT BUT WE DON'T KNOW. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE SALES TAXES COLLECTING ELECTRICITY. >> WHO WOULD BE PERFORMING THES AUDITS AND WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATE COST BRETT? >> JAMES, THE AUDIT IS DONE BY THE COMPANY. >> WHO PAYS FOR THIS AUDIT AND WHO PERFORMS THE AUDIT. >> IT DEPENDS ON THE LEVEL OF THE AUDIT. FOUR JUST ASKING TO PROVIDE DAT FROM THE RECORDS BUT IF WE ARE WANTING TO DO A DEEP DIVE AND ANALYSIS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO GET A THIRD-PARTY COMPANY THAT THAT WILL DO THAT BECAUSE CONTRACTOR WON'T DO THAT. >> I THINK FIRST WE SHOULD GET THE COMPTROLLER INFORMATION AND LOOK AT IT THAT BUT THIS ISN'T MAKING SENSE. IT SHOULD BE HIGHER. AND THEN WE COULD AUTHORIZE THAT . THAT IS THE WAY IT IS. >> BY THE WAY, I DID LIKE MY OW ELECTRIC BILL AND I PAID $5.31 AND LOCAL SALES TAX PUT THIS UP TO CHARGE IN THERE FROM ENCORE BUT THAT'S NOT IT, IT SAYS SALE [02:50:01] TAX. >> IF YOU TAX THEM FOR THEY ARE GOING TO ROLL THAT UP INTO -- EITHER WAY, THE TAXES ON MY BIL IS CONSUMER FOR MY MARTY PAYING THE TAX. >> THE QUESTION IS WHERE'S THE DOLLAR GOING. SO THE TWO THINGS YOU LOOK ON YOUR BILL IS THE SALES TAX, YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING FOR IT THE WAY I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE FRANCHISE TAX WHICH SOMETIMES SHOWS UP, IT SHOWS UP ON THE OL TELEPHONE BELL AND THEN THERE'S THE GROSS RECEIPTS AND THAT IS FRANCHISE TAX. FRANCHISE, NO TAXES, THEY ARE FEES. >> EFFORT BUT HE CALLS. >> YOU MAKE THE PUBLIC THINK THAT IS ANOTHER TAX. IT IS NOT, IT IS A FEE. ARE DIFFERENT TYPES UP GAS PROVIDERS. UNDER YOUR FRANCHISE AGREEMENTS AND THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT TYPES AND THEY PAY DIFFERENT, THEY PA IT IN AND THEN WE RECEIVE IT THERE IS A WAY YOU CAN AUDIT THAT PAPER THE FRANCHISE FEES ARE GOING DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE N LONGER HAVE THE LAND BID FOR TH RECORD. >> EXCEPT FOR THE ELECTRICITY PART BECAUSE HERE IS WHY I CALL THE TAX. WE CAN VOTE TO NOT CHARGE THE ELECTRIC COMPANY THAT IT WILL IMMEDIATELY TAKE OFF OF OUR BIL PICKED BY LAW ALSO ALLOWS HIM T REVERT -- REIMBURSE IT AND THE CITY CHARGES THEM AND THEY ARE ALLOWED BY LAW TO CHARGE US. IT IS A PAST REPAIR SO WHAT YOU LOOK AT YOUR BILL, YOU PAID FIVE BUCKS BUT ALSO HE ALSO PAI GROCERY FEES ARE FRANCHISE FEES. THE CITY AS COLLECTING 4% OF TH ELECTRIC BILL, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL. >> IT IS FOR THE USE OF THE BROADWAY BECAUSE YOU OWN THAT PUBLIC LAND. SO WE ALL GET THE PAPER THE ABILITY TO GET POWER TO OUR HOUSE AT 4%. THEY USE YOUR PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. >> YOU JUST ASKING FOR THEM TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING IN NUMBERS. SO WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO SAY? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY FOR THE RECORD OF THE GOVERNMENT TAKES THAT COMEDY IS CALLED A TAX BUT YOU CAN CALL IT WHATEVE YOU WANT. YOU ARE GETTING ME WORKED UP. THEY SPECIFICALLY TOLD THE GOVERNMENT AT THAT TIME WE ARE GOING TO OWN OUR PUBLIC LANDS SEARCH OUR PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY COMES FROM THAT. AND YOU WILL SEE THAT OUR ORIGINAL ANNEXATION AND THAT WA OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND THEY ARE OURS. SO SINCE THEY AREN'T YOURS COME IF YOU DO WANT TO CHARGE FRANCHISE FEE -- CANNOT CHARGE AS A FRANCHISE FEE . WE ARE GETTING UPSET. AND WOULD NOT CHARGE A FRANCHIS FEE FOR PRESIDENTIAL BUT CHARGE IT FOR COMMERCIAL PRODUCTS. >> ONE OR THE OTHER. I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO CONTACT THE TEXAS COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO GET A HOLD OF DATA REGARDING SALES TAX AND THEN FOR THEM TO EVALUATE THAT AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION. AND FOR THEM TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO US BY JANUARY 7. >> SECOND. >> THAT'S PLENTY OF TIME, RIGHT JAMES? >> YES. ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT IS ITEM 12.3, DISCUSSION [12.3. Discussion and possible action on directing city staff to bring back a proposal for a 3 vehicle test of Tesla cyber trucks for HPD and other city departments including costs associated therewith (Mike Snyder, Jerrel W. Reynolds)] [02:55:05] AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON DIRECTIN CITY STAFF TO BRING BACK A PROPOSAL FOR A THREE VEHICLE TEST OF TESLA CYBER TRUCKS FOR HPD AND OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING COSTS ASSOCIATED THER WITH P-LETTER OR I WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS UNTIL A FEW MONTH AGO. DO YOU WANT TO START? >> THIS IS NOT SAYING WE WANT T GO OUT AND BUY THREE VEHICLES ARE DIRECT STAFF TO GO BY THREE VEHICLES. THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE ON THAT. SO HAVING OWN VEHICLES MYSELF, PURCHASED A CYBER TRUCK MYSELF AT THE END OF APRIL, 1-2 MILES FROM TESLA. I DRIVE A LOT THAT I HAVE 17 PALS ON THE TRUCK DEBATE SO THA IS SIX MONTHS WORTH I GUESS I'M DRIVING. AND BECAUSE OF THAT I LOOK AT THINGS LIKE HOW MUCH DO FUELS COSTS, OIL CHANGES, BASIC MAINTENANCE. AND THE ONLY THING I'VE HAD TO DO ON THIS VEHICLE IS WASHER FLUID. I PLAN TO ROTATE THE TIRES A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE HOW MUC I DRIVE TO THE CRAZY THING ABOU IT IS TESLA HAS NOT CHARGE BE KEPT THEY TOLD ME THEY WOULD. THAT IS ONE PERSON'S OPINION. AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION THERE AND THERE'S ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS IN THERE THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY FOR SELF DRIVE AND SUPERVISED AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THAT WASN'T A PART OF THE REASO WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP WE'RE AT THE SAFETY ASPECT THAT ARE BEHIND, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITHOUT THERE, IT MA BE A VEHICLE FOR SOMETHING LIKE DEAR. AND THAT IS AN EXTREME EXPENSE PAID WHEN YOU HAVE THE LAS VEGA POLICE DEPARTMENT PRESENTLY CURRENTLY ON PATROL, THERE IS ANOTHER CITY IN TEXAS OUTSIDE O GALVESTON THAT DID A 30 DAY TRIAL, I GUESS, TO SEE WHAT IT WAS LIKE. OUT ANOTHER FINDINGS ON THAT YE BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL KNOWS BUT HOW MUCH DOES A TAHOE COST? WHERE IS THE OPERATIONAL COST O THAT AND HOW MUCH FUEL DOES IT WORK A DAY. AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP THE MONITORS UP AND RUNNING AND KEE THE BATTERIES CHARGED. AND SO THAT IS CONSTANTLY BURNING FUEL. YOU HAVE OIL CHANGES. YOU HAVE BASIC MAINTENANCE THAT GETS INVOLVED IN THAT. HOW MUCH DOES A CAUSE FOR THE TAHOE AND HOW MUCH DOES IT COST FOR THE FORD EXPLORER. SO IF YOU WERE TO SAY HYPOTHETICAL NUMBERS, IF THE TAHOE CAME IN AT $90,000 IN THE CYBER TRUCK CAME IN AT $120,000 AFTER BEING FULLY EQUIPPED, WHA IS THE COST ON THAT TAHOE OR THAT EXPLORER FOR A YEAR'S WOUL SAY IT WAS THIRD THOUSAND DOLLA DIFFERENCE, WHAT IF WE WERE SPENDING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY ON TIRE ROTATIONS AND TIRED CHANGES. AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT NOT HAVE TO HAPPEN ON A CYBER TRUCK PICKS I WOULD SAY WE COULD GO TO THE CITY AND SAY WHY NOT BRING US BACK THE PROPOSAL FOR WHAT IT COSTS FOR FULLY EQUIPPED TAHOE AND THE BASIC MAINTENANCE AND THE SAME THING, AND THE SAME THING FOR A CYBER TRUCK. I'M NOT SAYING THEY WERE TRYING TO SEND JAMES TO LAS VEGAS. >> GOING TO LAS VEGAS WITH THE CYBER TRUCK. SO HAVING PITCHED THE IDEA I GAVE, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO RIDE IN IT OR WHATEVER. BUT THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS FOR SPENDING ABOUT HUNDRED $50 EVER WEEK IN FUEL. [03:00:07] MY ELECTRICITY BILL HAS CHANGED ABOUT HUNDRED $50 A MONTH AND I IS ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CHARGE MY VEHICLE OF DAY BECAUS I WILL RUN FROM 8-29 CONSTANTLY CHARGING THE VEHICLE FROM THE HOUSE I TALKED TO MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID 350 MILES A DAY, VERY FEW PEOPLE DO 50 MILES A DAY. SO YOU MAY ONLY HAVE TO CHARGE THE THING MAYBE ONE SULFUR 2-3 DAYS. HOW MUCH DOES A PARTICULAR -- TYPICAL POLICE CRUISER PUT ON A DAY. ARE THEY RUNNING 100 MILES A DAY . SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT INFORMATION. SO CURRENTLY SIDE-BY-SIDE ACQUISITIONS AND OPERATIONS, TOTAL COST OF OWNERSHIP IN EACH VEHICLE AND OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS, WHAT WOULD IT TAK PIT IS THERE ANYTHING WE PUT ENOUGH TO ADD ON TO THIS IF THERE'S OTHER USES FOR IT OTHER THAN PATROL, THE PLAY IT HAS AI CONDITIONING IN THE BACK. BUT THEN HE GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR THE OFFICER ARE EVEN OF PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY AND CARRY TOOLS WRONG THINGS. THERE IS A POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT IS CURRENTLY USING IT AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON AT. WE NEVER USED IT OR SOMEBODY WOULDN'T HAVE USED IT, THE VEHICLE. THAT IS MY TAKE ON IT. I SHARED AND SHOWED IT TO THE MAYOR A COUPLE MONTHS BACK AND EVEN HE WAS LIKE THIS THING IS CRAZY AND HE RAN MY TRUCK THROUGH. FOR EVERYONE IN THE PUBLIC, IT JUST STOPPED. IN SHOWING IT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE LIKE COMMODE FOUL, THERE IS A LOT OF SAFETY FEATURES ON THIS. >> OH TWO MONTHS AGO, I HAD TO GIVE UP THE GAS TRUCK AND NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WHAT I HAVE BOUGHT A BATTERY VEHICLE SO I READ IT AND IT DROVE ME -- I DIDN'T THINK ANY MORE ABOUT I AND THEN I WROTE OF THE SCHOOL AND I'M HITTING HIM ALL THESE QUESTIONS. HE SAID HE JUST WENT TO FLORIDA AND BACK WITH IT DRIVING ME. FOR ME, I'D LIKE TO KNOW NOT JUST THE COST OF MAINTENANCE BU SOME OF THE INFORMATION I GOT HIS WE'RE TRADING IN OUR REGULA PATROL CARS AT 95,000 AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE MAINTENANCE COST OF 2-3,000 OR RELIABLE VEHICLE COMES IN QUESTION, WE ARE REPLACING OUR VEHICLES. VEHICLES HAVE A PROCESS AND OF WARRANTY ON THE BATTERY ALONE AND THE DRIVETRAIN IS -- >> EIGHT YEARS, 150,000 MILES. SO HERE WE ARE REPLACING CARS SIX YEARS OR SOONER BECAUSE THE DON'T GENTLY APPLY THE GAS PEDAL . EVERYTHING IS A SHOTGUN START NEAR YOU HAVE A VEHICLE THAT IS BUILT FOR SHOTGUN STARTS AND YO HAVE ONE WITH DOUBLE CHAINS ON THE BRAKES AND HERE YOU HAVE A CAR WHERE BREAKING IS GOOD FOR IT BECAUSE IT IS CHARGING THE BATTERY. MAYBE WE DON'T DO IT TODAY BUT YOU FACTOR IN THE ROBO TAXI AND THE ABILITY FOR THESE THINGS TO DRIVE ON THEIR OWN AND I TOLD THE CHIEF I CAN SEE IN THE VERY QUICK FUTURE WHERE WE HAVE POLICE VEHICLES THAT ARE DRIVIN AROUND AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT AS AN OFFICER IN THERE OR IF IT IS COMPLETELY AUTONOMOUS BECAUS THE TECHNOLOGY IS THERE THAT THEY CAN GO FROM BAR TO BAR. I TOLD THE CITY MANAGER IF THER IS ROADKILL ON THE ROAD, DOES ANYONE DRIVE AROUND IT. THERE WAS THE OFFICER RAN OVER SIMON I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HI FAULT BUT IT WAS LATE AT NIGHT AND DIDN'T SEE THE PERSON IN TH [03:05:01] HIGHWAY. CYBER TRUCK -- LET'S JUST SAY TESLA, THAT WOULDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT IS SEEING EVERYTHING WITHOUT LIGHT AND DARK TO THE OTHER THING A LOT OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT THE ABILITY TO HAVE BODY CAMERAS . THEY HAVE CAR CAMERAS AT 360 DEGREES COME ALL THE WAY AROUND THE CAR. SOMEONE HITS, THE OFFICER HIT SOMEBODY, RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOIN ON STATEMENTS. UNLESS THEY HAD THEIR CAMERA ON NOBODY KNOWS SPEAR THIS THING KNOWS EVERYTHING AND KEEPS TRAC OF IT AND THEN I TOLD THE CITY MANAGER WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING AROUND AND WERE TELLING OFFICER TO DRIVE DOWN 79, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DANGER FOR THAT. BUT WE SACRIFICE RUN SAFETY. I'VE SEEN MORE OF HUTTO IN THE LAST MONTH THERE OR MONTH AND A HALF. AND THEN IT INCHES FORWARD LIKE IT IS PEEKING OUT IN TRAFFIC THAT GOES ONLY WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE TO GO. SOMEONE STEPS AHEAD OF ME, THIS THINK WOULD STOP QUICKER THAN A GAS CARD BECAUSE THE BRAKES ARE GOING TO HAVE A BETTER STOP. HERE IF YOU LOVE THE GAS, YOU STOP 40 MILES AN HOUR AND YOU STOP IN MAYBE 20 FEET. SO IT MAY BE THINK THIS IS THE FUTURE AND I WILL BE READY FOR THE FUTURE TODAY. I DON'T KNOW. IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO EXACTL BUT GERALD SAID. PLUS THE COST OF THE VEHICLE SIDE-BY-SIDE. TRADED OUT IN SIX YEARS. IT CAN MAKE IT 10 AND YOU FACTO IN ALL THE MAINTENANCE. IF YOU GET A CRASH, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE BUT I WAS TALKING TO JAMES AND IT TAKES 20% MORE TO FIX UP TESLA THAT A REGULAR CAR BUT WE HAVE ONE WRECK EVERY TWO YEARS. IF WE ARE HAVING OUR BRACKET REGULARLY, THEN THEY -- BUT WHATEVER THE ISSUES ARE, TH LAST THING I WILL SAY THAT WE ACTUALLY WENT TO THE TESLA IN HUTTO. WE WERE SWORN NOT TO TELL ANYBODY WHAT THEY DO BUT WE WALKED UP AND SECURITY CAME OUT AND TALK TO ME AND WE SAT DOWN IN THE OFFICE AND JUST KIND OF CHITCHATTED AND WE THOUGHT WE SHOULD AT LEAST LOOK AT IT TO PEOPLE TELL PEOPLE THE REASON W ARE BUYING TACOS BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST BANG FOR THE BOX. THERE MAY BE A CHANCE THAT WITH LUCK AT -- FOR GOING TO HAVE A VEHICLE FOR A FULL SIX YEARS, THE TESLA OR SOME OTHER CAR, STAFF MAY COME BACK AND TESLA MAY ACTUALLY BE BETTER AND EVERYTHING. IT GOES FROM EMPTY TO FULL TO 80 %. UNLESS DOES THAT COST AND ALL THAT. WHAT I TOLD JAMES IS I THOUGHT IT'S ALWAYS BEST FOR US TO NOT ASK STAFF TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL THE COUNCIL DECIDES AND THAT IS SO THEY'LL LOOKING AT TODAY FRO MY SIDE. WU FULL SEE WHAT THE OUTFIT COSTS. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT GAVE ME SOME INFORMATION ON VEHICLES AND ALL THAT. SOME OF THE STUFF I WAS LIKE I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW. AND TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE THE FAT, THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE ALREADY ON BATTERY CHARGE JUST TO KEEP THEM GOING. OBVIOUSLY IS JUST NOT CHARGING LARGE BATTERY WE PROBABLY NEED TO ASK WHAT IS GOING TO COST AT THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE WE REAC OUT TO TESLA AND SAY WHAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE. THIS IS WHERE I FEEL LIKE YOU COULD POSSIBLY REACH OUT TO LAS VEGAS OR WHEREVER AND SAY HOW D [03:10:05] THEY CHARGE THEM. DOES TESLA WORK WITH THEM? >> I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT MAKES THE VEHICLE IN POOR CONDITION BECAUSE I'VE GOT A LIST OF 15 CARS THAT ARE IN POO CONDITION AND TWO OF THEM ARE TOTALED OUR 2017 HAS -- I DON'T HAVE MUCH GAS WE ARE USING BUT WHAT MAKES THEM IN POOR CONDITION BECAUSE OF THE BRAKES AND SUSPENSION AND ALL O THAT, THEY WERE BURNING THROUGH CARS. >> IT IS THE AGE BUT I CAN'T ANSWER SPECIFICALLY. I CAN GET THE PD TO RESPOND JUS FROM EXPERIENCE, THE POLICE CAR GET DRIVEN VERY HARD TO EVEN THOUGH IT IS 100,000 MILES IT'S A HARD 100,000 MILES. RUNNING ALL THE TIME OF THE HEA IS DIFFICULT ON ALL THE INTERNALS AND THE HIGH ACCELERATION AND THE DECELERATION. THE ALTERNATORS AND SO ON AND S FORTH. AND THE POOR CONDITION, THAT A SPICY POLICE VEHICLES BEING FILTERED OUT WHENEVER THEY HAD ABOUT 70,000 OR 6-7 YEARS AND USUALLY IT TAKES A FEW YEARS TO PAY THEM OFF SO IT IS WAS RIGHT AFTER WE GET IT PAID OFF, WE GE ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO OF A BREAK COME IF YOU WILL AND THEN WE NEED TO GO SPEND THE MONEY AGAIN . I HAVE ALREADY TOLD PD THAT MY EXPECTATION WAS FOR THEM, AND THIS WAS FOR THE CYBER TRUCK CONVERSATION BUT THIS WAS MAY B LAST MONTH AND I WAS TOLD FOR NEXT YEARS BUDGET I WANTED TO G AHEAD AND COMPLETE THE PD FLEET REFRESH BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT, ASSUMING THAT THE PUBLIC APPROVES THE JUSTICE CENTER, I DIDN'T WANT THE JUSTICE CENTER TO BE COMPETING WITH OUR FLEET. I WANTED OUR FLEET TO BE TAKEN CARE OF SO THAT IS THE PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY REASON NOT TO LOOK AT OR CONSIDER FIELD TESTS EVEN WITHOUT TALKING TO OTHER CITIES OR WHAT HAVE YOU. ARE WE GOING TO SAY IT'S A WHOLESALE REPLACEMENT? I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT. THREE IS COMPLETELY REASONABLE. WERE PROBABLY GOING TO LOOK AT PROCURING 8-10 OR MORE. SILK THIS IS A VERY GOOD THING TO PULL IN AND I WOULD GENERALL WANT THESE TO MORE THAN LIKELY BE NOT ASSIGNED AS TAKE-HOME VEHICLES AND WHAT HAVE YOU PICKED ANYWAY, THAT IS WHAT I'M THINKING. THOSE ARE THE COMPONENTS THAT BURN UP ON THE CARS. BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT IS CONSTANTLY PLANNING TO MAINTAIN ALL OF THE POWER NEEDS FOR THE INTERNALS THAT DOES A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR ON THE VEHICLES, ESPECIALLY IN THE HEAT. >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY ANY ANYTIME WE CAN SAVE MONEY, AND ADDITION TO THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AND THE UPKEEP, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE GOOD LUCK AT HOW MUCH IS THIS GOING TO IMPROVE SAFETY BY IMPLEMENTING THESE TRUCKS AND HAVING BEEN CHARGED AND KEEPING THEM CHARGED. WE DON'T WANT OUT WHEN WE CAN'T RESPOND BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FULLY CHARGED WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THESE ARE LIKE THAT. WE SHOULD ALWAYS LOOK TO SAVE MONEY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO SAY VEHICLE TESTS. GOING TO TESTS THAT OUT AS THE OTHER FRONT OR IS THERE DATA ALREADY AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN LOOK TO STATE THIS IS HOW THEY PERFORMED IN THE CITY. >> IF YOU HAD ONE GUY THAT DRIVES ALL THE TIME, THIS IS A CHALLENGE ALL THE TIME. [03:15:03] >> ARE REPURCHASING THEM? ARE THEY LOANING THEM TO US? >> THERE ARE NO LOANS. YOU HAVE TO UP FOR THEM TO BECOME POLICE VEHICLES. IT'S JUST A PROPOSAL. BUT WITH EVERYTHING. IS THERE DATA AVAILABLE? HOW LONG HAVE THEY HAD -- DO THEY HAVE DATA AVAILABLE? >> THEY PUT A BED IN OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER OF 2025. >> THAT IS STILL PRETTY NEW. HERE IS ONE. IT IS EQUIPPED FOR THEIR SWAT, SO THAT ONE HAS BALLISTIC SHIELDS ADDED TO IT LOOKS LIKE GIANT TONKA TRUCK. >> THERE'S MORE COMING OUT AND ARGUABLY THEY'RE COMING IN COME UP WHICH I WOULD NEVER SPEND TH HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS UNLESS YOU TOOK THE CAR -- >> MAYBE IT'S A MODEL 3 OR ON MODEL Y THAT THEY CAN USE TO OPERATE AS WELL. IT'S JUST TO HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE OUT THERE AS WELL. IT CAN BE MULTIPLE EXCUSE. IT CAN BE IN ANY DEPARTMENT. I TOLD JAMES, I SAID WE ARE NOT TOO FAR OFF. >> AND I SHARED THAT ONE TOO. I TEND TO GET, THIS ISN'T FLASH. SO TYPICALLY ABOUT EVERY THREE YEARS, WE HAVE TO GET ANOTHER VEHICLE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND MILES BUT I DIDN'T HAPPEN F2 50. AT 150, THE REASON I WENT THROUGH IT IS BECAUSE I CAN TEL YOU GUYS COME UP WITH SPENDING HUNDRED $50 A WEEK AND IN FUEL FOR MY GASTRIC. AND I WAS STILL SPENDING CLOSE TO 2-$300 SO JUST BY THE AMOUNT OF DRIVING. >> AS A RECOVERING TESLA OWNER, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY -- >> NO, I HAD THE MODEL S AND TH SURVEY AND. OPPOSED THEM. I LIKE THE IDEA OF GOING OUT AN GETTING THE INFORMATION AND SEE IF WE CAN SAVE. IT'S MORE EFFICIENT. WE HAVE TO PUT TESLA CHARGER AT CITY HALL AND HOW MANY AT THE POLICE STATION. EVEN THE NEW JUSTICE CENTER. EVEN IF IT WAS INCORPORATING THAT INTO THE BUILD. MAY BE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS THEY ARE. OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE SAFETY THING, TO ME THAT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE THE CARS ARE SAFE BECAUSE THEY ARE SAFE FOR THE CONSUMER BUT THE POLICE OFFERS SOMETIMES IN A SITUATION WHEN I WANT TO RIDE ALONG, THEY HAVE TO NOT BE A SAFE BECAUSE THEY NEED TO PURSUE OR I'VE NEVER BEEN BUT WE COULD SEE COO VEHICLES AND THEY RUN THEM OFF THE ROAD. YOU DON'T WANT THOSE FEATURES O THE CYBER TRUCK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO NO, NO, NO, DON'T HIT THAT PERSON. I'M GOING TO RUN THEM OFF THE ROAD RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU CAN TURN OFF. IN THE SITUATION OF A POLICE VEHICLE, MAYBE YOU CAN DO THAT. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE IDEA. I THINK IT IS GREAT AND WERE BEING CREATIVE IN COMING UP WIT SOLUTIONS TO NOT SPEND AS MUCH AND BE MORE EFFICIENT. EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT TESLA. >> I WILL TELL YOU IT WILL RUN JUST AS FAST AS THAT DOES IN TH STREET. THE CAR RACES ITSELF UP YOU TUR SOME OF THOSE FEATURES OFF. YOU'VE JUST GOT TO BE ABLE TO. FOR TALKING ABOUT HOW ARE THEY DOING IN OTHER CITIES AND HOW LONG THAT THEY HAD THE SITUATION . THAT IS THE KIND OF DATA THAT THEY WANT TO SEE. WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HO ARE THEY PERFORMING. [03:20:01] AND THE OTHER THING, I UNDERSTAND THIS ALL SOUNDS REALLY GREAT AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SET TESLA AND AFFORD IS THAT WE KNOW FOR THE SPEAR T HELP GET THE PARTS THAT WE KNOW HOW TO FIX THEM. TESLA IS VERY ADVANCED AND THEY ARE CONSTANTLY UPDATING THEIR TECHNOLOGIES AND WE WANT TO MAK SURE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN THINK OF. WANT TECHNICIANS TO REPAIR -- IT IS AMAZING THE INNOVATIVE WAYS THAT THEY APPROACH THINGS WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WERE NOT GOING TO END UP SPENDING A LOT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON VEHICLES THAT WE CANNOT INSTANTLY OR IMMEDIATELY REPAIR OR GET PARTS FOR QUICKLY. SO WE JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL. >> GO AHEAD, JIM. >> WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE COST, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE LIKE THIS, AND JUST NOT SEEING WHAT THIS COST IS OVER THIS AMOUNT OF TIME. THEY REALLY HAVE TO BE IN KIND FOR THE SAME ENVIRONMENT. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE LIFETIME OF THESE VEHICLES THAT ARE GOING TO BE DIFFERENT WHEREAS THE FORWARDER OF THE TO CHEVY OR A CYBER TRUCK OR ANYTHING. THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE ON THE FUEL, ALL OF THIS NEEDS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. WE TALKED ABOUT TIRES AND WINDSHIELD WIPERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ON ALL THESE VEHICLES. THOSE HAVE TO BE CUT OUT. SO COST OVER THE LIFETIME, BUT DOES THIS ONE CAUSTIC YEAR AND WHAT DOES THIS ONE CAUSTIC YEAR. THEN WE HAVE TO REPLACE THOSE WITH THE VEHICLE. >> PEOPLE TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT A CHARGER JUST TO DO THE PHASE AT THE HOME. IN THE CASE OF ANY ELECTRIC VEHICLES, I LIKE TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON THE CHARGERS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY THEN HAVING A BUNCH OF -- MAYBE EVEN OUT A FIRE STATION O SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THAT IS WHERE IT IS GOOD TO HAVE -- IT IS CHEAPER THAN ELECTRICITY. THE OTHER THING WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THREE VEHICLES VERSU TEN VEHICLES, WE BROUGHT UP ABOUT DATA, WHAT IS THE FLEET SERVICE THEY THE PAGE YOU'RE ONLY BUYING THREE VEHICLES, ONE OF THE COSTS OF THOSE THREE VEHICLES AGAINST THESE OTHER FLEET OF VEHICLES AS OPPOSED TO 10 ARE 12 VEHICLES. YOUR COSTS GO DOWN AS YOU GET MORE AND MORE VEHICLES SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONE OF THE COSTS OF TEN OR 12 TAHOE TACOS VERSUS THREE EV VEHICLES, IT IS NOT APPLES TO APPLES. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A SMARTER WAY OF LOOKING AT A PROPOSAL FO THESE COSTS. THAT IS PRETTY MUCH IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU STARTED OFF BY ASSURIN THAT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT GOING OUT AND PURCHASING VEHICLES. WE ARE ASKING TO HAVE RESEARCH DONE. SO THANK YOU FOR PREFACING THAT. THE OTHER THING THAT I WAS GOIN TO BRING UP TO YOU WAS GET IN TOUCH WITH LAS VEGAS PD. HOW DOES IT WORK FOR THEM FOR THE PAST YEARS AND ASKED THEM ALL THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND HOW HARD THEY DRIVE THEM. THEY'VE HAD TO DO PIT MANEUVERS . [03:25:02] TO YOUR POINT, LET'S JUST DRILL THEM AND SEE WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION WE CAN GET FROM THE AS WELL AS ALL THIS OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE ARE HAVING IS TO DO A SIDE-BY-SIDE COMPARISON. >> IT DOES USE MORE BLINKER FLUID BECAUSE OF HIS CONSTANTLY GOT THE BLINKER ON. I DON'T USE MY BLINKER NORMALLY. SO GERALD SAID SOMETHING COME I YOU HAD TO GO OFF ROAD, IT ALSO DRIVES THROUGH 3 FEET OF WATER. THESE CAN BE HAD IN 60-90 DAYS AND I THINK IT WAS THE EXPLORER IT WAS LIKE 8-9 MONTHS. IT IS AN ISSUE. >> USUALLY YOU HAVE TO REPLACE HIM OR WAIT FOR THEM TO WORK THEIR WAY UP TO THE FACTORY SO IT IS USUALLY AN 8-9 MONTH DELA WHEN YOU GET THEM. >> ONE THING THEY DO IS YOU SET IT FROM 80 DEGREES ON THE CAR. AND I THINK IT JUST TURNED ON I THE DAY. YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING. I FORGET THAT YOU ARE THERE. >> I'VE GOT A WHOLE LIST. >> JAMES DID COPPER THE FIRST COUPLE BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO G BEYOND THE PILOT THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME TAKE-HOME. ARE THE OFFICERS GOING TO BE CHARGING THEM AT HOME. IT HOW IS THAT ALL BEING HANDLED . THAT IS SOMETHING TO DISCUSS. ANOTHER ISSUE THAT COMES TO MIN IS DATA PRIVACY. YOU HAVE TO RECORD EVERYTHING. WHAT DID THEY HAVE ACCESS TO YO AND WHAT CONTROL DO WE HAVE. IT CAN BE DISABLED FOR SOME OF THE CAMERAS FOR REPORTING BACK AND WHAT DOES THAT REALLY DO AN DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ACCESS T THAT AND THERE ARE LIABILITY ISSUES IN THE WAY THE LAW THAT SET -- SET UP, LIMITING LIABILITY. SO WE ACTUALLY NEED SOME RESEARCH ON THAT BEAUTIFUL GOIN TO BE DOING ANY DRIVING WITH THESE VEHICLES, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A DEEPER DIVE INTO POLICY AS TO WHEN IT IS ALLOWED AND HOW IT IS USED. IN UNDERSTANDING THE LIABILITY AS A RESULT AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT OUR INSURANCE COVERS THAT CASE. I WILL MAKE ANY DECISIONS KNOWING WHAT THE CONSUMER WARRANTEE IS BECAUSE IT'S A CONSUMER WARRANTY AND THAT'S NO NECESSARILY THE SAME. GETTING THEM REPAIRED, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING WITH A TAHOE OR A FORWARD AND PUT THESE , I DON'T HOW CAN BE REPAIRED BECAUSE THE COST OF TH REPAIRS ONE THING AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOWN FOR WEEKS AT A TIME, THAT HURTS THE CITY SO WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THOSE THINGS AND THE OTHER THING IS THEY ARE JUST STARTING TO BE USED WHEN THEY'RE JUST STARTING TO BE USED , A LOT OF PROBLEMS ARE GOING TO BE FOUND DUPONT TO BE FUNDING THOSE PROBLEMS ARE DUAL WE WANT TO BE MAYBE TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THESE OTHER CITIES LET THEM FIND THE PROBLEMS FIRST . THAT IS REAL CONSIDERATION. GREAT QUESTION. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THAT COST COMPARISON BASED ON THE INFORMATION. BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD HERE TONIGHT. >> SECOND. >> DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH, JAMES? >> ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE [03:30:01] VOTE. [12.4. Discussion and possible action regarding initial citywide cost estimates and long-term planning for a City-owned fire department. (David Amsler)] >> MOTION PASSES 7-0. NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 12-POINT FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING INITIAL CITYWIDE COST ESTIMATES AND LONG-TERM PLANNIN FOR HIS CITY-OWNED FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE DIDN'T THINK WE WERE EVER GOING TO GET TO YOU, DID YOU? >> THAT CLICKER MIGHT BE DEAD. >> TO THE INCOME MAYOR AND COUNCIL. FOR THE RECORD TONIGHT IS OUR FIRST COMPREHENSIVE DISCUSSION OF WHAT A CITY-OWNED FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD COST. THIS IS LARGER THAN JUST THE CONSTRUCTION OF ONE FIRE STATION . FOR LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL COST OF DIVIDING FIRE SERVICE CITYWIDE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. THE INTENT IS TO ESTABLISH THE FINANCIAL MAGNITUDE OF THIS UNDERTAKING AND IDENTIFYING BUT STILL NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED. THESE ARE PRELIMINARY PLANNING ESTIMATES, THE CITY OF HUTTO, THIS IS NOT BUDGET. THIS IS NOT A GUARANTEE FOR MAXIMUM PRICE. OKAY. SO SELECTING THIS FIRST OFF THERE ARE FOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL WAS TO CHANGE ONE OF THESE FOUR MAJOR CATEGORIES, THEY WILL CHANGE TH COST SIGNIFICANTLY AND FOR THE MODEL WE ARE ASSUMING USED APPARATUSES THAT WHAT I SAY THE TERM APPARATUS, I SAY FIRE ENGINE AND FIRE TRUCK AS WELL A FOUR PERSON CREWS AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT EVERY FIRE STATION , WHEN YOU HAS CROSS STAFFING, THAT MEANS IF THERE ARE TWO TRUCKS AT THAT STATION, WE HAVE ENOUGH CREWS TO RUN ONE COMING UP BOTH. A 48 HOUR ON AND 96 HOUR OFF SCHEDULE FOR THEM AND THEN THRE PLATOONS, WHICH IS THREE DIFFERENT -- TO ASSURE WE HAVE 24-UP IN COVERAGE. SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING A $10 MILLION CONSTRUCTION COST FOR STATIONS IN THE FIRST STATION IS CURRENTLY APPROXIMATELY AT 90% DESIGNED AND WE WILL SOON BE ENTERING TH PLANNING PROCESS. 14 PERSON CREW'S CROSSTABS A USED PUMPER AND THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND THIS IS ALSO THE BACKUP MATERIAL. FOR EVERY STATION IT IS TO CONTINUE THE TYPE OF FIRE SURFACE THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT AND YOU WOULD NEED ONE PUMPER A WELL AS AN ADDITIONAL APPARATUS AND THAT IS AN OPTION BETWEEN THREE DIFFERENT APPARATUSES. AND THIS IS ANOTHER IMPORTANT FACTOR. SEE IF A CAT THREE PLATOONS WIT FOUR PERSONS AND THAT WOULD BE 12 LINE PERSONNEL. THE INDUSTRY STANDARD, IT IS CALLED OVERLY FACTOR IN EARLY FACTOR 1.25, SO ESSENTIALLY YOU WOULD ACTUALLY OVERSIZE WHAT YOUR PERSONNEL COSTS TO BE A 24/ 7 OUR STATION BECAUSE PEOPLE TAKE VACATION AND 12 IS NOT ENOUGH AND THAT 1.25 FACTOR IS AN INDUSTRY STANDARD AND SURELY AS HE BUILT FOR STATIONS, IT GIVES YOU MORE COVERAGE SO WHEN THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPEN, YOU WILL BE COVERED. OKAY. HERE ARE SOME COSTS. SO BASE PERSONNEL IS ESTIMATED TO COST US ROUGHLY 900,000 WITH SEPARATELY FACTOR AND THAT WOUL BE 1.125 MILLION AND THERE ARE PENSION CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO AS WELL AS HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS OF THAT BRINGS OUR ANNUAL PERSONAL TOTAL FOR ONE STATION, THIS WOULD BE A RECURRING COST. EACH CREW WOULD CROSS MULTIPLE APPARATUS AS EXPLAINED EARLIER AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ASSUMING THESE WAGES JUST FOR PERSONNEL SO IT MAY BE AN INTERESTING [03:35:04] QUESTION TO SAY THIS PERSON'S ESTIMATE, WHY WOULDN'T WE INCLUDE COMMAND STAFF. PREVIOUSLY WHEN WE FIRST LOOK A ONE STATION COME OF THE PREVIOU BUDGET PROPOSAL CITY MANAGER SA THIS IS POTENTIALLY BUT THIS COULD COST, WERE LOOKING AT USING AN INTERNAL PERSONNEL AND GIVING THEM A STIPEND TO ESSENTIALLY ACT AS THE ACTING COMMANDER FOR THAT FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT WOULD JUS BE ONE STATION. AT YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT GROWTH YOU HAVE MULTIPLE STATIONS, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE FOR FIRE CHIEF AND NEW TENANTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUT THIS IS ESSENTIALLY STARTING FROM PLACE ONE. AND THEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT THIS WOULD COST UP TO FOUR STATIONS AND THE STAFF AND THE CONSULTAN BELIEVES THAT'S REASONABLE TO B THINKING ABOUT OVER THE NEXT 3- YEARS SO TAKING THIS NUMBER OUT YOU WOULD THEN EVENTUALLY HAVE FOUR STATION JUST BORDERLINE PERSONNEL, 6.2 MILLION AND PERSONAL COSTS ADDITIONAL TO WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET. SO THESE COSTS WILL INCREASE OVER TIME WITH COMPENSATION AND BENEFIT INCREASES, THESE NUMBER WILL SLOWLY INCREASE OVER TIME JUST LIKE NORMAL STAFFING. ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONAL STAFFING WILL BE REQUIRED AS TH DEPARTMENT DEVELOPS AND WE ALSO NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR HIRING AND ONBOARDING PERSONNEL BEFORE STATIONS ACTUALLY OPEN. EVERYONE NEEDS THAT TYPE 1 PUMPER AND THEN THESE THREE ADDITIONAL APPARATUSES IS ESSENTIALLY CHOOSING ONE AND AS YOU'RE BUILDING OUT STATIONS, YOU CAN CONSISTENTLY CHOOSE -- YOU PUT SPREAD YOUR DIVERSITY ACROSS THESE THREE TRUCKS AND THOSE ARE MINIMUM USE COSTS FOR THESE. WE HAVE ACTUALLY IDENTIFIED ON THE STAFF LEVEL, THE APPARATUS FOR A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN WHAT YOU SEE YEP THEY ARE AND THAT I GOING TO REQUIRE INSPECTIONS, S WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING TO ENSURE WE HAVE A FIRE EXPERT INSPECT THAT TRUCK BECAUSE CURRENTLY IF WE WERE TO LOOK AT OUR FLEET MAINTENANCE STAFF, THEY DO NOT FIRE FLEET MAINTENANCE. SO WE ARE TO HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE AND THEY ARE INSPECTING THAT TRUCK THAT I'M WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT WHO IS AN EXPERT, NO ONLY THE TYPE OF TRUCK TRACKBAC TRUCK BRAND OF TRUCK AND TOLD THAT MATTERS. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. SO THAT WILL BE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE IN THIS CURRENT MODEL, IT OBVIOUSLY USES USED APPARATUSES TO REDUCE COSTS, THAT IT IS THE LEAD TIME AT A BRAND-NEW TRUCK WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LONG AND AS YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT MATURES IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED BY THE CONSULTANT AND STAFF TO MIX IN SOME NEW EQUIPMENT AS WELL, NOT JUST WERE GOING TO BUILD THE ENTIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT OFF OF TEN-YEAR-OLD EQUIPMENT. IT'S JUST TO GET STARTED AND THAT IS NORMAL. THERE IS MORE COST. SO YOU BUILD ANY BUILDING OVER THERE IS IT AND SECURITY COSTS, PPE COST, I CARDIAC MONITOR COSTS, MEDICATION, RADIOS AND YOU SEE THOSE ADDITIONAL COSTS LISTED THERE AND THERE IS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL WHAT WE CONSIDER SOFT COST OF CONSTRUCTION. NORMALLY YOU ALLOCATE ABOUT 8% OF THAT OF YOUR TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST WHICH IS 10 MILLION SO AN ADDITIONAL 8% OF 800,000 IS A SAFE ESTIMATE T LOOK AT NEXT IS A FEW MORE ADDITIONAL COSTS. CAD, TURNOUT GEAR, ON BOARDING AND FIREFIGHTERS JUST LIKE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAVE RIGOROUS TRAININGS AND ITEMS THAT THEY NEED TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITHIN THAT IS THAT ANTICIPATED ANTICIPATED COST AS WELL AS A SCAB, FURNISHING, [03:40:01] STORAGE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. EVEN MORE ADDITIONAL COST TO LOOK AT. SO ONE WOULD LOOK AT OUR MINIMUMS, FIRST STATIONS, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS OUR ANTICIPATED SUBTOTAL. WHAT THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE AS MAINTENANCE BID SO THAT IS ALSO BUILDING MAINTENANCE, FLEET MAINTENANCE. I'VE BEEN WORKING WHAT THE CONSULTANT NOT THAT BECAUSE I WASN'T COMFORTABLE WITH THE SPECIFIC NUMBER AT THE TIME OF PRESENTATION BECAUSE WE ARE STILL IRONING THAT OUT BUT WHAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE A BUILDING ANYTHING BETWEEN 8-$100,000 IN MAINTENANCE AS WELL AS WHEN IT COMES TO FUEL, EVERY TRUCK FUEL PLUS MAINTENANCE, AN ADDITIONAL $30,000. HERE IS THAT 8%, KIND OF SKIPPE AHEAD THERE AND AS I SAID BEFORE , THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE CHIEF CHIEF, ADMINISTRATION, PREVENTION, CURRENTLY IF YOU AR LOOKING AT OUR DISPATCH CROSS, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY SHOULDERS A GOOD PORTION OF THA COST FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE ESD ACTUALLY PIGGYBACKS ON SOME OF THOSE COSTS APPEAR SO WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE A GREAT INCREASE BECAUSE WE ALREADY PAY A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT THERE. AND THEN THERE ARE MAXIMUMS. WE ALREADY WENT OVER MINIMUMS, WHICH BRINGS YOUR NUMBERS UP TO THREE AND A THOUSAND, $6,000 AN THE SAME THING HERE. THESE ARE A LOT OF DOUBLING THIS , TIMES TWO FACTOR ON THESE. SO THIS IS IF WE ARE USING CURRENTLY AND THAT IS WHAT EACH STATION COULD CAUSE SO IF YOU WERE TO BUILD OUT FOUR STATIONS WITH THE MOST EXPENSIVE VEHICLE ARE USED VEHICLES, YOU ARE LOOKING AT $50 MILLION IN S-UPPERCASE-LETTER WELL AS PERSONNEL APPEAR OKAY. SO THESE ESTIMATES SHOW THE SCALE UP THE CURRENT SELECTED MODEL PUT THE DO NOT IDENTIFY A FUNDING PLAN TODAY TODAY WAS TO BRING THE COST OF CITY COUNCIL AND OUR RESIDENTS SO THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE UNDERTAKING THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR FROM COUNCIL. SO WHAT DOES COMMAND STUFF LOOK LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AN ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANTS IN POSITIONS OF THAT NEIGHBOR, IT STAFF, MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA. AS THE FIRST STATION PROGRESSES THROUGH THE STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO REFINE THESE ESTIMATES TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS OTHER CONSIDERATIONS. WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY ATTRACTIVE IS ACTUALLY COMING I UNDER OUR INITIAL ESTIMATES. ULTIMATELY STAFF IS SEEKING DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL ON THE LEVEL OF ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AN DESIRE IS AS WE CONTINUE EVALUATING THIS MODEL SUCH AS PEOPLE WANT TO SEE HOW CAN WE SEE OUR CURRENT REVENUES, OUR FIRM REVENUES TO PAY FOR THIS CENT OFFSETTING COST IN THE FUTURE AND THEN FINALLY JUST A QUICK REFERENCE, MINIMUM STARTUP , OR WERE LOOKING AT AROUND 11-POINT TO ANNUAL PERSONAL PERSONNEL COST IS STATION IS JUST 1.56 MILLION AN ANY OPERATIONS OUTSIDE OF PERSONNEL AND THE INITIAL EQUIPMENT COST IS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 115-130K BRINGING OUR TOTAL OPERATION OF 1.7 AND THEN IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SECOND STATION, WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT ANNUAL COSTS. [03:45:02] I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTION AT THIS TIME. >> THAT WAS VERY DETAILED. I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF BRINGING US SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. IT IS BIGGER THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE BUT I'M GLAD TO LOOK AT IT. IT'S GOOD TO MAKE DECISIONS AS COUNCIL THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO IT WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. THROUGH LOOP WANT TO CONTINUE T SPEND TIME ON DEVELOPING COSTS? IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. I WOULD WANT TO SEE IT AND CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT PICTURE SO WE CAN APPROACH THIS AS RESPONSIBLY AS POSSIBLE AND DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. THANK YOU. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO PROCEED COMING UP WITH THE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR THE BUILDING AND STAFFING STATION WANTING TO GETTING THINGS FOR THE PROCUREMENT OF DIFFERENT APPARATUSES AS RECOMMENDED BY CONSULTANTS. >> I SECOND THAT. >> SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER ZEPEDA. >> HERE'S MY NOTES, IT WAS LESS THAN I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE ON BECAUSE I LOVE IT WHEN IT GETS BLOWN THAT. AND I WAS ACTUALLY IN A MEETING AND I WILL TELL YOU MORE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION ABOUT IT BUT WAS IN A MEETING ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AND THIS ARGUMENT ALWAYS FALLS DOWN TO IT IS THE POWER OF MONEY IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TWO. IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE BUILT AND STAFFED THEY CANNOT DO IT ANY CHEAPER AND SO WE ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT. THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF ESD THREE PUT THE QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN JAMES' SALARY. BECAUSE THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT W HAVE COMING, THE PROTECTED PROPERTY TAXES $500,000 SO AS THE CITY WE CAN ONLY IN MY MIND WE CAN REASONABLY BUDGET BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO GET IN SO $500,000 IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO GET IN WATER LACED IN WATERLINES WE HAVE TO HAVE A POLICE SERVICE OUT THERE. THERE GOING TO HAVE POLICE CALLS . THEY PLAY $50,000 YEAR WE PLAY CLOSE TO -- THAT IS CORRECT. SO WE ARE PLAYING THE LION'S SHARE. WHEN SOMEONE CALLS 91 COUPLE WE TELL THE FEES AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A BACK-AND-FORTH WH PAYS MORE BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T CARE. SO EITHER WAY SOMEONE IS FUNDIN THIS. THE SALES TAX, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY TAX, THE SALES TAX IS 3-POINT 8 MILLION. F WE JUST GOT 60% OF A GUARANTEE , THAT IS TO POINT TO 8 MILLION AND THAT COVERS EVERYTHING. FOR NOT HAVE BEEN TALKING THE DATA CENTERS ON THE INDUSTRIAL MILLIONS OF 1.52 IS A 40%. JUST ONE DEVELOPMENT PROVIDES ENOUGH MONEY TO JUST WORK WITH US TO FUND THE ENTIRE THING SO ALL THE THEY GOTTA DO IS BUILD BUILDING, WHICH WE PAY AS TAXPAYERS ANYWAY SO TO ME THIS JUSTIFIES THE ROUTE WE'VE BEEN GOING IN TERMS OF ONE DEAL THEY SAID WOULD BE BUILT, I FORGOT T MENTION THAT. SO BY 2029, ONE DEVELOPMENT, 60 ACRES, WHAT IS THAT 240 ACRES OF WHAT THEY ARE QUICK 60 ACRES. SO WE ARE FIGHTING OVER THE POWER OF WHO IS GOING TO CONTRO THE DESTINY OF IS IT GOING TO B JAMES AND YOU GUYS TO DICTATE WHAT WE DO ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSTANTLY ASK FOR PERMISSIO OF HOW YOU ARE SPENDING YOUR MONEY AND WHAT WATERLINE YOU BUILT THE ROAD YOU PAID AND NOT TO MENTION 60% OF IT WAS SPEARED , OUR WATER FLOW IN OUR INVESTMENT AND ALL WERE GOING T GIVE OUT IS PROBABLY 500,000 A YEAR WHICH IS CLOSE TO WHAT WE'RE DOING BITS WERE BEING FORCED TO DO THIS AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WORKED OUT DIFFERENTLY BUT THE COMMITTEE HAS MET MULTIPLE TIMES AND WE'V OFFERED SUGGESTIONS AND WE GET DRUG ALONG ALONG, WAS AT [03:50:03] $600,000 IN BACK SALES TAXES WE GAVE UP ROUGHLY. >> SO WE TOOK HALF OF THAT. WE ARE PAYING MONEY OUT OF THE POCKET AND FOR NOT EVEN GETTING THAT AND WE KEEP FIGHTING WITH THE MONEY I THINK IT IS DISTRACTING TO THE STAFF QUITE CONSTANTLY FIGURING OUT ARE WE GETTING OUR CHECKS BASED ON WHA THEY WROTE ON THE LETTERING CAN CAN THEY CASH AND SEND IT TO ME. THIS CAME IN. BASED ON THESE NUMBERS THAT DO AND -- WILL BRING UP AN IDEA FOR THIS BUT THE BEST WAY I SEE TO DO THIS IS WHAT I SAW HERE, YOU CAN'T JUST TIPTOE AROUND AND BUILD ONE AND CALL IT A DAY. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GO IN FOR GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION TO NOT BUILT UPON, BUILT ONE AND CALL IT A DAY OR BUILD OUT AN ENTIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND TO ME I'M SAYING AN ENTIRE FIRE DEPARTMENT SO WHEN I VOTE YES TONIGHT, I DON' WANT THERE TO BE ANY MISTAKES ABOUT IT. ONE, MAYBE TWO. GATEWAY PROVIDES ENOUGH SALES TAX. THIS STUFF IS PAYING FOR ITSELF. SOME POINT WE WILL WORK TOGETHE BUT ANYWAY. I'M SURE THAT RUFFLED SOME FEATHERS BUT THAT IS ALL RIGHT. >> CALL THE VOTE. PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. [12.5. Discuss and Possible Action regarding Street Closure Signage for Special Events, including but not limited to block parties, parades, street fairs and special events. (Mayor Pro Tem Porterfield)] NEXT WE HAVE NOT AS EXCITING BECAUSE IT'S PORTERFIELD. >> 12.5 DISCUSS AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING STREET CLOSURE SIGNAGE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO BLOCK PARTIES, PARADES, STREET FAIRS, AND SPECIAL EVENTS. >> I JUST BROUGHT THIS UP AS MORE OF A FORMALITY BECAUSE OF ALREADY TALKED TO JAMES ABOUT IT . BUT THERE WAS AN EVENT DOWNTOWN AND THEY PUT UP SIGNAGE AND THE NEED 48 HOURS TO NOTIFY A STREE CLOSURE, WHICH IS GREAT WHEN WE HAVE BIG DOWNTOWN EVENTS LIKE OLD-TIME MUSIC AND THAT KIND OF THING BUT THIS PARTICULAR EVENT WAS GOING TO BE BLOCKED AT A CERTAIN TIME SO A LOT OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNERS CONTACTED ME FRUSTRATED THAT THEY SAID IT WAS GOING TO BE BLOCKED THEY DIDN'T SAY A TIME. JAMES HAD HIS GUYS GET THERE AN FIX THAT BUT I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO MAKE SURE THAT W ARE LOOKING AT THE SIGNS AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE IMPLEMENTE ANYTHING THEY ARE OFFICIALLY ON HOW IT IS GOING TO BE WORDED WHEN WE POST IT AND FONT SIZE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF THE CONCERN WAS THAT PATRONS WERE DRIVING UP AND SEEING THERE WAS NO PARKING AND ESSENTIALLY THEY WERE NOT READING OR THEY WERE CONFUSED ON WHEN IT WAS NO PARKING. THERE IS -- THIS IS MORE OF A FORMALITY. WE JUST NEED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ACTIO AND WE ARE DISCUSSING IT SO THE CAN FEEL EASIER ABOUT NOT LOSIN THEIR CUSTOMERS FOR THE DAY WHE THERE IS AN EVENT THAT IT IS NO NECESSARILY TAKING UP ALL OF DOWNTOWN. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM. SO THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTING FACTOR THAT I WAS ABLE TO DISCERN WAS THE SIGNS, SELF ASSIGNED FRONT IS BASICALLY THE MANUAL TRANSPORTATION. I'M FORGETTING WHAT IT IS. THERE DETERMINE WHAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK LIKE AND THE BOOKS THAT SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO BE OUT 48 HOURS AHEAD OF TIME AND THAT YO HAVE THE POST THE DATE OF THE CLOSING. THAT IS BECAUSE OF THERE ARE CARS PARKED THERE WHEN THE EVEN GETS READY TO START, THEY GET TOWED. AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE WAY THA THE FRONT OF THE SIGN IS SHOWIN INFORMATION AS IT WAS SAYING POSTED ON AND THAT HAD THE DATE WHICH WAS 48 HOURS BEFORE THE [03:55:05] EVENT AND THEN IT WAS THE NO PARKING DAY, THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND THAT WAS THE DATE OF THE EVENT. END OF THE FONT IS ABOUT THIS BIG SO WHEN YOU ARE IN A CAR YOU'RE DRIVING UP TO A PARKING SPACE AND YOU SEE NO PARKING AN YOU SEE 10:13-1015. NO PARKING BETWEEN THOSE TWO DAYS. NOT WAS POSTED ON 10/1348 HOURS. AND THEN THE FURTHER COMPLICATED , IT'S JUST A PARTIAL DAY CLOSING IN ON A CLOSING SO EFFECTIVELY WHAT WE DID IS WE WENT AND PULLED, IT DOES NOT SA THAT HAVE TO BE ON THE FRONT OF THE SIGN STATING THAT IT WAS POSTED AT 48 HOURS OF TIME. THAT'S NOT IN THE WORKMAN. JUST PUT THE FAITH WE PUT THE SIGN ON THE BACK OF THE SIGN. WE CAN USE THE SIGN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED FOR BOTH DATES FOR JUST ONE DATE AND THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE PARKING, SIMPLE FIX. BECAUSE WE ARE EFFECTIVELY REDUCING THE SIGNS AND WE ARE JUST PRINTING OUT THE DATA TO STICK ON THE FRONT OF THE SIGN SO WE CAN JUST MAKE IT BIGGER AND ONLY PUT THE ACTUAL DATE THAT IS GOING TO BE NO PARKING AT THE TIME FRAME AND THEN PUT THAT ON THE FRONT OF THE SIGN AND THAT SHOULD ALLEVIATE MOST THE CONFUSION. WILL PEOPLE STILL DRIVE UP AND SEE YOU NO PARKING SIGN? IT IS STILL GOING TO HAPPEN BUT I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE AS PROBLEMATIC. I DROVE HER TO GO SEE MYSELF ONCE THE COMPLAINT START OF THE COMMUNITY PULLED UP AND TO ME I I WAS JUST DRIVING BY AND LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO PARK, I' REALLY THAT I CAN'T PARK HERE BETWEEN THESE DAYS AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO FIX. GRACIE ALSO WANTED TO MARK WHAT WE JUST DESCRIBED AND SEND IT THEN AND I TOLD HER SHE COULD D THAT BUT WE ALREADY WENT OUT AN FIXED THOSE SIGNS THAT THEY AND THAT IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO HANDLE IT GOING FORWARD. SINCE THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T PROHIBIT US FROM DOING IT THAT WAY, THAT IS JUST WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. >> IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE SIGNS DOWNTOWN THE SAY NO PARKING DURING CERTAIN TIMES THAT THEY'RE THERE ALL THE TIME AND SOMEONE JUST TOLD ME THAT NO ON READS THOSE AND PARK SLOWS ALL THE TIME. >> I FEEL LIKE I CAN GET AWAY WITH IT BUT MAYBE NOT. AND THERE WAS ALSO SOME FRIEND FRUSTRATION ABOUT THE NOTIFICATION OF THE CURB CUTTING . I JUST WANTED TO SET THEM AT EASE THAT YOU TOOK CARE OF IT FOR YOU SENT PHOTOS. SO I WOULD SAY IF WE CAN GET TH SIGNS, BIG FONT, THIS IS GOING TO BE CLOSED ALL DAY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THEN HOPEFULLY THAT WILL HELP AND WE WILL FIND OUT AT THE NEX EVENT BECAUSE IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER ONE COMING. >> I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN EVENT ORGANIZER ISSUE. IT WAS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE EVENT ORGANIZER PETE I WAS NOT THE EVENT ORGANIZER ON THIS, THANK YOU. >> YOU HAVEN'T MADE THE SIGNS. >> KNOW, THE SIGNS ARE MADE. >> HERE IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK. IS THERE WAY WE CAN JUST TAKE THE SIDE BECAUSE WE ONLY DO THI AROUND DOWNTOWN AND SO CAN WE D TWO THINGS? WE CAN DO IT WITH ONE OF US AND I KNOW CHRISTIE BB DID THAT BUT WHAT IF WE TOOK THE SIGN AND OPERATING PROCEDURES AT ALL THA AND GOT INPUT FROM THE DOWNTOWN PEOPLE FOR THEM TO GO, YEAH, THAT WORKS. HERE'S WHAT I'M I AM AFRAID OF. THAT ARE ALL SEE EYE TO EYE ON THINGS OR SO WHATEVER YOU DO THIS GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE THAT HAVE AN ISSUE. AND WE WILL BE GETTING THEM TO YOU BY ANY GUY THAT WORKS FOR US . AND THE POLICY YOU GUYS VOTED AND YOU GUYS RECOMMENDED TESTS. >> I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. >> I SEE MORE EVENTS COMING DOWNTOWN. AND I DID TALK TO SOME PEOPLE TODAY I HEARD NO NEGATIVE [04:00:05] FEEDBACK FROM THAT. AND I WAS WONDERING WHEN WE CLOSED THE ROAD DOWN. I HAVE NOT DONE MOTOR A SPIKING. >> WE CLOSE THAT WHEN THE REQUEST IS TO CLOSE THAT. >> SOMETIMES PEOPLE MAY BE REQUESTING IT IN SOME -- WE CAN CLOSE OFF THE PARKING SPOTS COULD PUT UP HER TWEAKERS YOU GUYS TO GO, YES, WE DO. >> USUALLY IF THERE'S GOING TO BE LIKE THE GATHERING, THINK OF A LIKE A BLOCK PARTY THAT THE GATHERING IS GOING TO BE PREDOMINANTLY OUT IN THE STREET AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE IN A BIG GROUP AND THEN YOU CLOSE THAT. OR IF THEY ARE PUTTING THINGS OUT THERE, A FOOD TRUCK OR SOMETHING, THEN YOU CLOSE THAT. IF THE REQUEST COMES IN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 60 PEOPLE STANDIN IN THE STREET, THEN YOU'RE GOIN TO CLOSE THE STREET. >> IF THE THERE LIKE WE JUST WANT TO PARK OUR BOXING GO HAVE A WE'RE AT HALL OF FAME OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU DON'T NEED T DO ANY OF THAT. YOU JUST PARKED THEM. FROM HERE TILL THIS POINT HERE, THEY ARE PERMANENTLY HERE IT IS JUST ONE TIME COST AND IT IS THEN INCREASED COST BUT THEN BAGGED THEM OR COVER THEM WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN USE. >> I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT. BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NO IS THAT PHILOSOPHY. VERSUS HAVING THEM THERE ALL TH TIME. PLUS JUST ONE POLE PULL EVERY SINGLE SPACE TO LIKE YOU SAID, THIS IS A FIRE LANE AND THIS IS A FIRE ZONE, HAVE A BLOCK OR A BLOCK LIKE FOLLOW THESE PARKING SPOTS OR WHATEVER. THEY HAVE MORE AND MORE EVENTS. PIERPOINT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE YOU'D DO YOU NEED THEM TO SIGN OFF ON IT? WERE GOING TO GIVE YOU SOMETHIN BUT WE COULD GIVE YOU SOME MONE EACH YEAR. HERE IS THE SIGN IS PAID WE WIL COMMUNICATE WITH YOU YOU ALL BE IN CHARGE OF THIS BECAUSE FOR SLOWLY WATCHING ALL OF YOU TO B IN CHARGE OF DOWNTOWN. >> I DON'T LOVE THAT BECAUSE TH SIGNS ARE ENFORCEABLE BY US. ONCE YOU START TELLING PEOPLE, THAT IS A BIG DEAL. YOUR IMPOUNDING CARS. >> TO BE JUST VERIFY THAT THEY PUT THEM UP RIGHT. >> MAY BE. >> THAT'S NOT HARD TO DO. >> IS BASICALLY A SIGN ATTACHED TO A CONE. I HAD TO PUT THE SIGNS UP A COUPLE YEARS AGO. IT DID NOT COME WITH INSTRUCTIONS. PUT SOME ON A LIGHT POLE AND WE PUT ONE ON OVERSEA YEAR. NO ONE PARKED THERE. THAT'S ROOM GOING. IF YOU GUYS CAN JUST LOOK AT IT AND BE ABLE TO SAY IT WILL BE THIS WAY AND THIS WAY AND WE WENT THROUGH TRAINING AND IT CAN'T BE THAT COMPLICATED. DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BORE YOU BY THAT. EVEN IF IT IS TO JUST PUT A COUPLE OF POLLS PUT UP. HOW ABOUT WE PUT ONE PAY TO PAR KIOSK AND IT IS FREE TO PARK AL THE TIME EXCEPT WHEN IT IS NOT AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE SOME MORE WORDS YOU CAN'T PAY TO PARK YEAR . KIND OF LIKE PARKING GARAGES [04:05:04] WHERE THEY HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT AND THE WRATH LIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DOWNTOW PEOPLE BE IN CHARGE OF PUTTING LIGHTS ON THE BUILDINGS. IF YOU TELL ME HOW MUCH YOU ARE SPENDING IN MONEY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW CAN THEY DO IT FOR THE SAME PRICE OR LESS AND WHAT COMES TO DOWNTOWN, THIS IS HOW SOME OF THESE BIGGER CITIES ARE RUNNING THE DOWNTOWN. >> IMAGINE THE BUDGET WE JUST SAY HERE'S $50,000 IF THAT DON' DON'T PUT THE STUFF ON RIGHT, W COME BACK AND TAKE THEIR FUNDIN AWAY. THEY HAVE OUR GUYS OUT DUMPING TRASH CANS. FILLING ORDINANCE AND CODE IS NOT ONLY THE STYLE OF THE SIGN, IT IS PLACEMENT OF THE SIGN. WE CAN GIVE THEM THE SIGNS TO COME OUT BUT I THINK I'M PUT THEM IN THE RIGHT PLACE. >> I'M TELLING YOU I PUT THEM U AND IT WAS LIKE 20 DEGREES THAT THEY. YOU SEE HOW THEY TREAT ME. I'M NOT SURE THAT IS THE CASE. I USE ZIP TIES. I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU WERE ASKED TO PUT IT UP. I NOTICED THAT ONE YEAR AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY. WERE HELPING OUT, SO HERE YOU GO , VOLUNTEER. >> JUST A THOUGHT LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, HOW DO WE PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES AND COST AND YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE DOWNTOWN -- WHEN I SAY THEY COMPLAIN COME I'M NOT JUST SAYING THEY COMPLAIN TO DISRESPECT. [INDISCERNIBLE] WE NEED A COMMITTEE MEMBER. WE THOUGHT ABOUT DOING THIS. YOU CAN EITHER STOP OR GET INVOLVED OR REGRETTED IT ANYWAY. I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE. >> ANY ACTION? >> I'M CONFIDENT THAT JAMES IS GOING TO GET IT TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE IF NOT I'M JUST GOING T TELL THEM TO CALL HIM NEXT TIME. [12.6. Consideration and possible action relating to a new Interlocal Agreement for Sales Tax Sharing or amendments to the Interlocal Agreement with the Williamson County Emergency District # 3 for Sales Tax Sharing dated May 7, 2026, for the Cottonwood Properties, Megasite Properties or the Sprouts to be located at Texas State Highway 130 and Highway 79. (Mayor Pro Tem Porterfield)] SO I'M GOOD. >> NEXT WE HAVE 12.6 CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTIO RELATING TO A NEW INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT AND SALES TAX SHARING OF AMENDMENTS TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMERGENCY DISTRICT NUMBE THREE MET FOR THE SALES TAX SHARING DATED MAY 7, 2026, FOR THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTIES MEGA SITE PROPERTIES OR THE SPROUTS TO BE LOCATED AT TEXAS STATE HIGHWAY 130 -- 130 AND HIGHWAY 79. >> WE HAVE THE CURRENT NEW ONE THAT SAYS WE CAN MAKE AMENDMENTS , BASED ON PROPERTIES AND WE COULD MAKE AMENDMENTS TO THOSE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES. SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH US YET MANY OTHER OPTIONS OF TRYING TO WORK SOME FAVORABLE SOMETHING WITH ESD, I SAID, WELL, YOU KNO WHAT, THEY AGREED TO THAT, SO LET'S START PUTTING THEM TOGETHER. SO WE'VE GOT THESE PROPERTIES MAY BE MORE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ADD, BUT DOES. >> I KNOW THIS IS ON EXEC BECAUSE WERE GOING TO HAVE LEGA QUESTIONS. WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM. WE SHOULD DO IT. WE SHOULD START DRAFTING THOSE UP. THEY'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH SIMILAR COMMITTEE YOU BUILD ONE AND THE ARE ALL THE SAME AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, WHATEVER THAT SPLIT IS, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES. FOR WHAT WE ARE INVESTING IN THESE PROPERTIES AND FOR WHAT W ARE TRYING TO BRING THESE FOUR PROPERTIES, I DON'T THINK A 90- 10 SPLIT IS OUT OF THE QUESTION AND I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS IN THE BACK AND FOR ME IT IS IMPORTANT WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE WITH THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHILE WE PURSUE OTHER OPTIONS. AND THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THA [04:10:04] WE ARE STILL TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN AND THEY ARE GOING TO RECIPROCATE AND WHETHER THEY HAPPEN OR NOT, THAT IS UP FOR OPINION. SOLD THESE THREE PROPERTIES,, KNOW THERE IS ONE MORE. I CAN WAIT UNTIL WE GET IN THE BACK. >> I THINK IT IS PROBABLY BETTE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION SINCE WE HAVE TO DRAFT SOMETHING. >> BUT YOU THINKING? >> 90-10 FOR ALL THREE. >> YOU ARE TO HAVE THESE DRAFTED ? >> MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU CAN ADD ANOTHER ONE BECAUSE NONE OF THI IS DRAFTED YET. >> ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT? >> YES, SIR. >> THEY SAY NO TO GATEWAY IN THAT DEAL A YEAR FROM NOW TAKES OFF BUT I'M STILL HERE, AND I WILL BE SAYING WE NEED TO BUILD A FIRE STATION COMPARED WITH TH SALES TAX WE GET IN, IF IT EXCEEDS OPERATING COST, THE BES THING TO DO FOR THE TAXPAYER IS TO TAKE 4 MILLION TO TAKE 4 MILLION. WE WILL SPLIT 90-10. WE HAVE TO BUILD IT WITH WHATEVER THEY ARE GOING TO DO AND ALL THAT COMES OUT ELECTRICITY SALES TAX. ALL THIS EQUIPMENT, THERE IS A LOT THAT GOES IN THAT. I AT THE 9010. AUDIT WANT THEM TO PERCEIVE -- NINETY/10, WE ARE TAKING ON THE BULK OF THE INVESTMENT SO I THINK WE SHOULD GET THE BULK OF THE TAX REVENUE FOR THAT AND SO 10%, THEY STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME SERVICE THERE. THAT'S WHY I WOULDN'T SAY 100%. >> ONE MORE. >> YOU CAN TALK. STAR BRANCH, 90/10. >> WE CAN GO WITH THAT. >> AND WE GET 100% AND GIVE 100 BACK IN IN REBATES. BUT WE ARE 6-7 YEARS AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO ANNEX STAR RANCH. SO FOR THE NEXT SEVEN YEARS, ABOUT 40%. IF WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT NOW, IT JUST MAKES THE DECISION EASIER FOR SOME SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE. >> I DON'T REMEMBER HOW IT IS WRITTEN BUT I THINK THE INTENTION OF THE AMENDMENT WAS TO TACK ON OR START A NEW TENUR WITH THAT AMENDMENT VERSION. SO LET'S SAY WE GAVE IT TO THEM TONIGHT AND IT ALL STARTED TODAY . THE CLOCK STARTS TODAY ON THOSE PROPERTIES ON A NEW TENURE FOR THAT PROPERTY. >> ARE WE GOING TO MAKE THESE INTO AMENDMENTS EACH ONE OF THE EVERY 25 YEARS? >> THEY HAD BROUGHT UP 31 WE WERE NEGOTIATING. >> ARE WE ABLE TO SAY THAT ON THESE DEALS? >> THEY NEVER -- DAN AND I WERE HAVING MEETINGS WITH THEM IN MY OPINION THEY WERE NEVER ON THE 30 YEAR -- >> I DID NOT PUT A YEAR ON IT. I JUST SAID 90/10 SPLIT. >> I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING QUICK. THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN ON THE AUTOMATIC RENEWAL AFTER TEN YEARS, THEY ARE ASSUMING IT IS ALREADY 20 YEARS IN PERIODS SO -- SOMETIMES THEY WANT 30 YEARS OUT . >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. IT'S AUTOMATIC UNTIL SOMEBODY SAYS I DON'T WANT TO. IT AUTO RENEWS ANOTHER TEN YEARS . IS GOING TO BE 20 YEARS ANYWAY SO I DO NOT KNOW WHY THEY [04:15:01] WOULDN'T PUSH THEM BACK TO 20. >> I THINK WHAT SHE IS SAYING I -- THEY ARE ALREADY THINKING IN TERMS OF 20 SO IF YOU HAVE 20 AND 25. IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT. >> I THINK SHE IS SAYING THAT THEY MAY BE WILLING TO SAY YES TO IT. >> THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY UNWILLING TO SAY JUST FOR THAT. AND THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP MULTIPLE TIMES BUT WE CAN KEEP TRYING. THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETELY -- THAT TEN IS LIKE THE LIMIT OF THEIR REAL COMFORT ZONE. THAT'S WHAT IT'S BEEN EVERY SINGLE TIME HE COMES UP. OUT NOT NECESSARILY WITH START BRANCH PUT THAT ON NEVER GET THAT. WE HAVE THAT NOW. THEY WOULD NEVER GET IT. >> AS WE ANNEX PROPERTY IN, WE AGREE TO SPLIT IT. THAT HE GAVE US PREVIOUS GUIDANCE. >> BUT HAS TO BE WITHIN THEIR SALES TAX AREA. WE CAN'T GIVE THEM SALES TAX IF THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO IT AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE CONSTITUTIONALLY WRONG. >> WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH 30 YEARS? >> YES. IF DOTTY COMES BACK AND SAYS WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO STAR RANCH, THEN WE JUST DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THEM. [INDISCERNIBLE] >> BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER GOTTEN THE SALES TAX BECAUSE WE DID TH SPECIAL ANNEXATION. THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE SALES TAX ELECTION. >> WE WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. BUT I THINK THAT DAN IS RIGHT. >> LET'S CHECK ON THAT. THEY WOULD GET 100%. >> I WAS GOING TO SAVE WITH THESE PROPERTIES, ARE WE ALSO GETTING NUMBERS? EVER GETTING NUMBERS TOO MUCH MY ? I MEAN, FOR OUR OWN -- WERE GETTING THIS MUCH FROM MEG SITE AND THIS ONE FROM SPROUTS. HOW DO WE GO ABOUT THAT? >> IT'S A WILDLY CONCEPTUAL. >> ITS PROJECTIONS. >> IT'S A PROJECTION SO WE -- >> WE BASICALLY PROVIDED THAT ALREADY AND THAT IS THE CHART THAT WE DID TO SHOW EVERY SALES TAX GENERATED THAT WE KNEW WAS COMING AND HOW MUCH SALES TAX WOULD BE PROJECTED TO ARRIVE IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. >> I WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN. >> THOSE EIGHT PROPERTIES. I WILL HAVE THEM FIND IT. WE CAN BRING THAT UP. IF NOW THAT GOES FOR WORD AND OUR OWN FIRE STATION WOULD BE COVERED BY SALES TAX. IT FLUCTUATES. SO I WOULD HAVE CONCERN AND I WOULD LIKE IT WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT FUNDING, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY OVERBURDENING THE TAXPAYER BECAUSE WERE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT -- IT WOULD BE VERY RISKY BECAUSE SALES TAX IS VOLATILE. WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE [04:20:03] MARKET ARE THERE MARKETS. SO I AM HOPING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WERE NOT 100% RELYING ON ANY OF THIS THAT HAS TO BE PAID. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WHAT YO WERE SAYING. >> I THINK 100%. IT IS VOLATILE. I DON'T KNOW FOR A TIME WHEN SALES TAX DROPPED SO SIGNIFICANTLY. BUT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT COTTONWOOD IS YOU KNOW ABOUT 60 ACRES WAS ADDED TO THE 40 AND THAT ALONE IS DOUBLE THE COST O RUNNING IT. SPROUTS IS JUST THE BEGINNING O THE DEAL OUT THERE. IT DOESN'T QUITE COVER THE FIRE STATION. IT COULD GO OUT THERE. >> YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> WHY DO YOU SAY THAT? >> ARE NOT THE CHEAP COMMODE AN TOLD US ONE DAY IN JANUARY 25 PETE HE SAID THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE SAID ALTHOUGH THE QUICKLY GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. ALL STOP THIS NOT BECAUSE I WAN TO. >> THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO GET ALL THESE EXTRA FUNDING SOURCES. >> WE CALL IT OVER ENGINEERING. YOU JUST WON'T HALF ALL OF THES EXTRA SOURCES SO YOU CAN KEEP THE MARKET FLUCTUATION. >> ALL RIGHT, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. [13. EXECUTIVE SESSION] EXECUTIVE SESSION -- OFF RIGHT, WE WILL GO BACK TO EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> AT 113.1, I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED 131. C. FOR D, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY MORE LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ACTUALLY NEED AN EXECUTIVE QUESTION. >> ON 13.1 D COME IN ITS LOCAL AGREEMENTS. OUT ENOUGH YOU HAVE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS? >> IF WE DID, WE JUST PASSED IT. >> I'M GOOD WITH DIRECTIONS ON 12.7. >> WE NEED TO GO BACK FOR 13.1B. THERE IS ALMOST NOTHING YOU CAN TELL ME THAT'S GOING TO MAKE ME WANT TO -- >> FOR 13.1 A -- RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUED TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT SO -- CODE SECTION 551.071 CONSULT WITH ATTORNEY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL COUNCIL ADVISING DAMAGE BY MH UNDERGROUND LLC TO THE WATER MAIN NEAR CEDAR FORK ROAD AND FM 1660 AND RELATED MATTERS. [14. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION] SESSION. NO ACTION IS TAKEN. NEXT ITEM UP. >> I DON'T SEE DAN. >> 14.1, CONSIDERATION. DAN IS NOT WITH US AT 12:43. CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE ITEM. >> MAYOR COUNCIL 13.1 A. THIS IS THE MH UNDERGROUND DAMAGE TO THE WATER LINE. WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO NEGOTIATE A SETTLEMENT AS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND ALSO AUTHORIZED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CONTACT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ABOUT FILING A CIVIL COMPLAINT FOR PENALTIES UNDER THE TEXAS [04:25:01] UTILITY CODE. >> SECOND. SPEAKER ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> PASSES 6-0. MOTION PASSES 6-0. >> MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR 131B, RESTROOM PROJECT DEFECTS. WE ADVISE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND LAW FIRM TEAM TO TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST ANY AND ALL RESPONSIBLE PARTIES INCLUDING AND UP TO FILING A LAWSUIT FOR THE DEFECTIVE RESTROOM. >> SO MOVED. >> ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS? >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER ZEPEDA? >> COUNCIL MEMBER KING. >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. WE'VE GOT ONE MORE. WE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE FOR PROJECT 107 EAST THAT WE DIRECT STAFF. THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO BRING BACK THE ITEMS DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> SECOND. >> PAGE 18. >> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER REYNOLDS? >> MOTION PASSES 6-0. >> ALL RIGHT, GENERAL COMMENTS [15. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS] FROM CITY COUNCIL? >> I HAVE ONE. THAT WE RECEIVED AN INVITATION TO ATTEND A CONGRESSIONAL VETERAN COMMENDATION CEREMONY. SO THE OFFICE IS HONORING THE SACRIFICE OF LOCAL VETERANS AND ONE OF OUR OWN HUTTO VETERANS IS GOING TO BE THE RECIPIENT OF ONE OF THE DISTINGUISHED HONORS. THE VETERANS ARE FROM TAYLOR AND FRUITVILLE AND THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO TAKE PART IN THE RECOGNITION CEREMONY OCT OCTOBER 27TH. CONGRATULATIONS. >> ALL RIGHT. 15.2, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? DON'T ALL COME AT ME AT ONCE. ALL RIGHT, THEN I WILL HAVE ONE OF YOU COME UP. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE READY THE FIRST MEETING OF NOVEMBER OR 2ND OF NOVEMBER. TO GET THINGS READY. EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM FOR THE LAND NEEDED FOR THE SECOND FIRE STATION FOR THE CITY OF HUTTO. HEARING NOTHING * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.