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RIGHT.[1. CALL SESSION TO ORDER]
CALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THURSDAY, OCTOBER 2ND, 2025 TO ORDER.LET'S START WITH ROLL CALL COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON.
MAYOR SERS HERE NEXT, IF YOU RISE FOR INVOCATION, WILL BE LED TONIGHT BY ARTHUR SPENCE OF LITTLE EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH.
HEAVEN AND FATHER LORD, WE THANK YOU GOD FOR YOUR LOVE AND YOUR KINDNESS, GOD AND YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY, LORD.
THE BEST US LORD, WE GOING TO OUR CITY MEETING HEAVEN, FATHER HERE IN HUDDLE.
LORD BLESS THE MAYOR LORD AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HEAVEN.
FATHER LORD, BLESSED THE UM, EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE CROWD.
LORD, LET US BE ABLE LORD TO RENDER OURSELVES HEAVEN FATHER UNTO YOU LORD, AND BE ABLE TO BE SERVANT HEAVEN FATHER FOR YOU, GOD.
LORD, YES LORD, THE BLESSED US AS WE LEAVE THIS PLACE WHENEVER YOUR PRESENCE HAVE YOUR ANGELS AROUND US, TILL WE GET TO OUR DESTINATION BETTER AND BETTER THAN WHERE WE LEFT.
THE LORD GIVE YOU ALL THE HONOR IN YOUR, IN YOUR PRECIOUS NAME.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE, PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD AND DIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD ONE.
AND INDIVISIBLE COUNSEL AND MEMBERS
[5.1. World Inclusion Day (DEIB Commission)]
OF THE DIB COMMISSIONER WILL JOIN ME UP FRONT FOR PROCLAMATION.UH, THIS IS FOR WORLD INCLUSION THAT PEREZ, THE PRINCIPLES OF DIGNITY, RESPECT, AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY ARE FOUNDATIONAL TO A THRIVING AND JUST SOCIETY.
AND INCLUSION IS ESSENTIAL TO ENSURING THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL, REGARDLESS OF RACE, ETHNICITY, GENDER, AGE, ABILITY, RELIGION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, OR SOCIAL ECONOMIC STATUS FEELS VALUED AND EMPOWERED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS WORLD INCLUSION DAY SERVES AS A GLOBAL REMINDER OF THE IMPORTANCE OF EMBRACING DIVERSITY, VOTING EQUITY, AND CULTIVATING ENVIRONMENTS WHERE ALL PEOPLE FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING AND ACCEPTANCE.
AND WHEREAS INCLUSIVE COMMITTEES FOSTER INNOVATION, RESILIENCE, AND SOCIAL HARMONY BY RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING THE UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES AND EXPERIENCES OF EVERY INDIVIDUAL.
AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF HATO IS COMMITTED TO ADVANCING EQUITY AND BELONGING THROUGH THE EFFORTS OF THE DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION, AND BELONGING COMMISSION, WHICH WORKS TO FOSTER UNDERSTANDING, CELEBRATE CULTURE, AND HONOR THE EXPERIENCES OF ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND WHEREAS BY OBSERVING WORLD INCLUSION DAY, WE REAFFIRM OUR DEDICATION TO BUILDING A COMMUNITY WHERE DIFFERENCES ARE NOT ONLY RESPECTED, BUT EMBRACED, AND WHERE EVERY RESIDENT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO THRIVE.
AND NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF HU DO HEREBY PROCLAIM OCTOBER 10TH, 2025 AS WORLD INCLUSION DAY AND ENCOURAGE ALL FEDERAL RESIDENTS TO PARTIC PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES THAT PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING, CELEBRATE DIVERSITY, AND STRENGTHEN BONDS OF INCLUSION WITH THE OR WITHIN OUR CITY AND BEYOND.
MR. GREEN, SORRY, ANYTHING TO SAY? I WAS GONNA INVITE OUR NEWEST COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER, UM, JOSHIE, UM, AND, AND IN THE SPIRIT OF INCLUSION, HE STARTED OUR FIRST MEETING AND I INCLUDED HIM WITH A TASK ALREADY AND HE DID A GREAT JOB IN SPONSORING THAT PROCLAMATION.
BUT I JUST WANNA, UM, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WHEN WE'RE ASKING ABOUT GOING OUT AND DOING ACTIVITIES, I JUST WANNA GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR HUDDLE PUBLIC LIBRARY WHO TRIES REALLY, REALLY HARD TO HAVE ACTIVITIES FOR OUR FAMILIES AND OUR KIDS AROUND EVERY SINGLE PROCLAMATION.
UM, SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, IF YOU'RE HEARING IT HERE, YOU'RE READING IT ON OUR CITY WEBSITE, YOU ARE LINKING AROUND YOUR COMMUNITY GROUPS WITHIN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR PUBLIC WINERY, WHO IS ALWAYS WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT FOSTER THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY OR INCLUSION AND BELONGING ARE ACTUALLY BEING PUT INTO PRACTICE AND GIVE EVERYBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.
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MORE.YOU GUYS CAN HAVE THIS OR? YES, SIR.
[6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS ]
MAYOR, COUNCIL CITIZENS OF HU UH, JAMES ARP, CITY MANAGER FOR THE RECORD, TONIGHT'S THE FIRST MEETING OF THE MONTH, AND IT IS, UH, THE MONTH WHEN WE, UH, INTRODUCE TO THE COMMUNITY, UH, THE NEW MEMBERS OF TEAM HU.UM, SO I'M GONNA CALL 'EM UP AND IF YOU'LL, UH, JOIN ME IN WELCOMING EACH ONE TO, UH, TO THE TEAM.
IT'S GONNA BE THE FOLKS HERE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND, AND WORKING TO MAKE JUTO BETTER.
SO, UH, FIRST WE HAVE, UH, MOA GALVAN.
TEAM JUTO IS OUR POLICE ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.
UM, SHE PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR THE TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD AS A CHEMICAL SOLDIER, SERVED AS A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER AT THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY JAIL AND WORKED WITH CHILDREN WITH AUTISM.
MONA ENJOYS LEARNING HOW TO MAKE BAKED GOODS FROM SCRATCH, SPENDING TIME WITH HER FAMILY AND TWO DOGS IN HER FREE TIME.
AND AN INTERESTING FACT TO NOTE ABOUT HER IS, ALTHOUGH SHE PROBABLY CALLS HERSELF A HIPPO, SHE STILL STRUGGLES TO SAY HIPPOPOTAMUS IN SPANISH.
ALRIGHT, NEXT, UH, JOIN ME IN WELCOMING TO TEAM HUDDLE.
GO AHEAD AND STAY UP HERE A MINUTE.
WE'RE JUST GONNA LET EVERYBODY COME UP HERE TOGETHER.
LEONARD IS JOINING TEAM HUDA AS A PARKS MAINTENANCE TECH TECHNICIAN.
UH, HE PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN THIS SAME ROLE WITH THE, THE TEXAS WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS PROGRAM.
UH, HE GRADUATED FROM PFLUGER HIGH SCHOOL IN 1998 AND BELIEVES HE'S FOUND A GREAT FIT HERE AT THE CITY OF HUDU.
UH, BEING A FAMILY ORIENTED, FAITHFUL FOLLOWER OF GOD AND FATHER, HE IS LOOKING TO PROVIDE FOR HIS FAMILY AND IS THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, NEXT, JOIN ME IN WELCOMING TO TEAM HUDU REE VES.
UH, REESE IS JOINING TEAM HUDDLE AS A STREET AND DRAINAGE TECHNICIAN.
UH, HE PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN INTERNET ELECTRONICS AND HAS A BACKGROUND IN TELECOMMUNICATIONS, CURRENTLY RESIDING IN PFLUGERVILLE.
REESE ENJOYS WATCHING COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND SPENDING TIME WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY IN HIS FREE TIME.
AN INTERESTING FACT TO NOTE ABOUT HIM IS THAT HE IS A TEXAS AGGIE FAN.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, JOIN ME IN WELCOMING TEAM TO TEAM HURO DANIEL FLORES.
TEAM HU IS A UTILITY TECHNICIAN WITH THREE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE PROUDLY SERVING THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY.
ORIGINALLY FROM MEXICO, HE WAS RAISED IN ROUND ROCK AND IS A PROUD 2006 GRADUATE AT HU HIGH SCHOOL, NOW RESIDING IN NORTH AUSTIN.
DANIEL IS EXCITED TO CONTRIBUTE HIS SKILLS AND GET BACK TO THE CITY HE USED TO CALL HOME.
UH, NEXT, JOIN ME IN WELCOMING TO TEAM HU UH, DEVIN RODRIGUEZ.
DEVIN IS JOINING TEAM HU AS A SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION TECHNICIAN.
TRY TO SAY THAT SEVERAL TIMES FAST.
UM, HE, UH, HE'S COMING WITH A BACKGROUND IN AUTOMATION AND INTEGRATION AND EDUCATION, TELECOMMUNICATION AND COMPUTER SUPPORT.
DEVIN BRINGS SIX YEARS OF RELEVANT EXPERIENCE TO THE CITY OF HU TEAM, AND HE'S EXCITED TO CONTRIBUTE BY HELPING THE CITY OF HU HUDU BECOME MORE SELF-SUFFICIENT IN ITS UTILITIES.
AND THEN WE STILL HAVE TWO MORE.
SO ABBY FENTON, ABBY IS JOINING TEAM HUDU AS OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.
UH, SHE COMES WITH EXPERIENCE IN GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE CITY OF MONT BELLEVUE AND IS EXCITED TO NOW CALL HUDU HOME.
SHE'S LOOKING FORWARD TO BUILDING TRANSPARENT, ENGAGING COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.
ABBY HOPES TO, UH, HELP KEEP RESIDENTS INFORMED, CONNECTED AND IN THE LOOP THROUGH CLEAR ACCESSIBLE MESSAGING THAT REFLECTS THE HEART AND SPIRIT OF HUDU.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE MORE WHO'S NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT, BUT HER NAME IS JENNIFER FREEMAN AND SHE IS JOINING US AS A CHILDREN'S LIBRARIAN.
SO THIS IS THE NEW MEMBERS OF TEAM HU FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER.
YOU CAN SHIFT TO THE RIGHT, JUST TO YOUR LEFT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
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ALL RIGHT.AND Y'ALL ARE FREE TO STAY FOR ALL THE FUN AND EXCITEMENT, BUT THERE ARE NO COOKIES, SO YOU'RE ALSO FREE TO LEAVE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
UH, MAYOR, THAT INCLUDES MY COMMENTS.
JUST A REMINDER OF THE QR CODE ON THE SCREEN FOR THE AUDIENCE AND, UH, THOSE THAT MAY BE WATCHING FROM HOME, WILL TAKE YOU TO ALL THE UPCOMING EVENTS FOR THE MONTH.
[7. PUBLIC COMMENT ]
COMMENT.WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
THE LIGHT WILL START OFF GREEN.
WHEN THERE'S 30 SECONDS LEFT, IT'LL GO TO YELLOW.
AND THEN WHEN IT GOES RED, YOUR TIME WILL EXPIRED.
AT FIRST UP, WE HAVE JIMMY PIERCE.
HELLO, UH, MY NAME'S JIMMY PIERCE.
I HAVE LIVED IN HUDU, OFF AND ON SINCE 94, 93, SOMETIME IN THERE.
GRADUATED FROM HUDU HIGH SCHOOL IN 97.
UM, I CAME TO SPEAK ABOUT LIVE OAK STREET AGAIN.
IN 2017, A ROADS BOND WAS PASSED.
LEADING UP TO PASSING THAT BOND.
THERE WERE SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT BOND WAS SOLD ON THE LIVE OAK STREET PROJECT.
THEY STARTED WORKING ON THE UTILITIES ALONG LIVE OAK.
THEY CUT THROUGH RESIDENTS DRIVEWAYS.
THEY CUT ACROSS THE STREET, THEY BACKFILLED THESE WITH ROAD BASE AND LEFT IT THERE FOR THREE YEARS WITH WATER RUNNING DOWN THROUGH IT, WASHING OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THE ROAD, ALL OF THE BASE THAT WAS THERE, OR LOTS OF IT.
UM, SO AS OF TODAY, YOU HAVE RESIDENTS THAT THESE CITY DAMAGE THEIR DRIVEWAYS AND HAS NEVER FIXED IT.
YOU HAVE POTHOLES, YOU HAVE CURBS THAT ARE FALLING OFF INTO THE DITCHES BECAUSE THE ROAD WAS NEVER FIXED PROPERLY.
THERE'S NO STEEL IN THE CURBS BECAUSE THE BUDGET WAS CUT WHEN THEY WERE BUILT.
UM, THEY USE SUBSTANDARD ROAD BASE, WHICH IS WHY IT WASHED OUT EASIER.
AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO MAKE THREE TRIPS FROM THIS CITY HALL TO FRITZ PARK, ONE WALKING, ONE DRIVING, ONE ON A BIKE, AND THEN TELL US THAT THAT ROAD DOES NOT NEED TO BE REDONE.
NEXT UP WE HAVE BRANDON DELEON.
UH, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE PROGRESS YOU'VE DONE THROUGH CIP PROJECTS AND ALL OF THE BUDGETARY, UH, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON THIS YEAR.
UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO BRING UP IS THE, THE PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN DELAYED AT LIMMER AND INNOVATION.
UH, WE CONTINUE SEEING HEAD, UH, T-BONE COLLISIONS THAT ARE CAUSING SIGNIFICANT INJURY.
UM, THIS, WHEN I TALKED ABOUT IT IN MARCH, WE HAD EXECUTED THE CONTRACT, BUT DELAYED DUE TO SCHOOL, UH, BACK IN MAY.
AND SINCE THEN, THERE HAVE BEEN REALLY BAD ACCIDENTS.
AND SO IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A BETTER WAY WITH WHEN WE RECOGNIZE SOME OF THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE BIG SAFETY CONCERNS TO GET THOSE DONE, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE PIVOTAL.
'CAUSE I THINK, YES, WE DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK WITH, UH, ALLEVI TRAFFIC, BUT THIS IS A BIG SAFETY CONCERN IN OUR CITY.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, SO IF WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
NEXT WE HAVE, IS IT JACK SLATHAN? DID I SAY THAT RIGHT? JOHN LATHAM.
I THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.
I'M JOHN LATHAM, PASTOR OF GRACE BAPTIST CHURCH OF HU.
AND WE CURRENTLY MEET AT THE HU MIDDLE SCHOOL.
AND UNTIL RECENTLY, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT OUT, UH, A-FRAME SIGNS AND SOME FEATHER FLAG SIGNS, BUT THEN CHURCHES STARTED GETTING LETTERS, UH, FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT SAYING WE WEREN'T ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
UH, IT OBVIOUSLY PRESENTS A PROBLEM FOR US.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT IN A PERMANENT BUILDING, SO WE HAVE NO PERMANENT SIGNS.
UH, ALL WE CAN DO ARE TEMPORARY SIGNS.
UH, WE WERE PUTTING THEM OUT ON SATURDAY NIGHT, TAKING THEM DOWN AS SOON AS CHURCH WAS OVER ON, UH, SUNDAY MORNING.
UH, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO VIOLATE ANY, ANY CITY ORDINANCE.
SO I'M HERE TO REQUEST THAT YOU REVIEW THAT, UH, AND SEE IF THERE CAN BE SOME, UH, SOME OPTION MADE FOR, FOR THOSE OF US WHO ONLY HAVE A, A SHORT TERM AND A SPACE, UM, THE SCHOOL WE MEET AT IS KIND OF OFF THE BEATEN PATH IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
SO IT'S HARD FOR PEOPLE TO FIND.
AND EVEN WHEN THEY GET THERE, THERE ARE SIX OR SEVEN DOORS AND WE DON'T COME AND GO THROUGH THE MAIN DORM.
AND SO WHEN PEOPLE SHOW UP, THEY STILL MAY NOT KNOW WHERE TO,
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WHERE TO COME IN ORDER TO JOIN US FOR WORSHIP.UH, I BELIEVE THERE'S, UH, THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE JUST PASSED A LAW, UM, THAT, THAT MAY IMPACT THIS AS WELL.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.
AND, UH, I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ALL YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I APPRECIATE THE JOB THAT YOU FOLKS ARE DOING.
I'M PASTOR OF LONE STAR BAPTIST CHURCH AND, UH, WE MEET IN COTTONWOOD CREEK ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UH, WE'VE BEEN GOING, UH, NOT QUITE A YEAR AND A HALF.
AND, UH, WHEN I CAME HERE, I ASKED THE SCHOOL'S PERMISSION, DIDN'T THINK ABOUT CHECKING WITH THE CITY, ABOUT PUTTING OUT SIGNAGE FOR OUR CHURCH.
WE, UH, UH, PUT A LOT OF BUDDY INTO 'EM.
AND, UH, JUST IN THE LAST SIX WEEKS, I GOT CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS AND I WAS TOLD IF I PUT 'EM OUT THIS LAST SUNDAY THAT I WOULD BE FINED.
AND SO WE DIDN'T PUT SIGNS OUT.
AND, UH, LIKE PASTOR LATHAM, UH, SIGNS ARE A BIG, HUGE HELP TO OUR CHURCH.
AND, UH, I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU MAKE A CONSIDERATION FOR CHURCHES, UH, ESPECIALLY ON SUNDAYS, UH, BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE FAMILIES NOW THAT ATTEND OUR CHURCH THAT DROVE BY AND SAW OUR SIGNS, AND, UH, THEY, UH, WERE, UH, CAME IN TO VISIT OUR CHURCH AND NOW ARE A PART OF OUR CHURCH.
AND SO, UM, UH, I DON'T WANNA BE IN VIOLATION AND I DON'T WANNA JUST KEEP GETTING LETTERS, BUT, UH, THE SIGNS REALLY DO HELP AND IT WOULD BE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
I TOO HAVE HEARD THAT THERE'S POSSIBILITY OF A, UH, NEW LAW OR A NEW CODE THAT THE STATE OF TEXAS HAS PASSED.
AND, UH, I HOPE THAT'S THE CASE.
BUT I'M ALSO ASKING FOR YOU TO, UH, MAKE A CONSIDERATION THAT THE CHURCHES, WE COULD PUT OUR SIGNS OUT ON SUNDAYS.
THEY'RE ONLY OUT FOR 24 HOURS.
UH, AND THEN WE TAKE 'EM DOWN AFTER SUNDAY SERVICES ARE OVER.
AND, UH, BUT IT WOULD BE A GREAT HELP IF YOU COULD DO THAT FOR US.
NEXT WE HAVE UP, WE HAVE RONALD, IS IT JOE VERO? YES, SIR.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I AM A PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER WITH THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, SPECIFICALLY THE OFFICE OF DISASTER RECOVERY AND RESILIENCE HERE TODAY.
JUST TO SHARE ABOUT SOME INFORMATION REGARDING DISASTER LOAN PROGRAMS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR, UM, THOSE THAT WERE AFFECTED FROM THE, UH, SEVERE STORMS AND FLOODING THAT HAPPENED HERE IN WILLIAMSON, TRAVIS, AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES JULY 2ND THROUGH THE 18TH.
THE SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION OFFICERS OFFERS DISASTER ASSISTANCE IN THE FORM OF LOW INTEREST LOANS.
NOW THESE LOANS ARE THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF FEDERAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP OWNERS PAY FOR LOSSES NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE.
THE, UH, BUS SBA OFFERS THESE LOW INTEREST LOANS TO BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES, PRIVATE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TO HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS.
AS AN EXAMPLE, HOMEOWNERS MAY BORROW UP TO $500,000 THAT CAN HELP REPAIR, REPLACE, OR REBUILD THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE TO PRE-DISASTER CONDITION.
INTEREST RATES FOR THESE LOANS ARE AS LONG AS 2.81% AND IT'S FIXED FOR UP FOR A TERM OF UP TO 30 YEARS.
UM, HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS NOW MAY BORROW UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HELP REPAIR OR REPLACE PERSONAL PROPERTY.
THAT CAN INCLUDE A VEHICLE, CLOTHING, FURNITURE, OR APPLIANCES.
INTEREST RATES FOR THOSE ARE AS LOW AS 2.56%.
BUSINESSES AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS MIGHT BORROW UP TO $2 MILLION TO HELP REPAIR OR REPLACE REAL ESTATE AND, UH, UNTIL NORMAL OPERATIONS RESUME.
AND, UM, CAN, IT CAN BE USED FOR PAYROLL, LEASE BANK DEBTS OR, UH, UTILITIES.
UM, BUSINESSES MAY ALSO BORROW UP TO $2 MILLION IN WORKING CAPITAL IF THEY SUFFERED ECONOMIC INJURY.
UM, AND THAT CAN HELP, UH, HELP OUT AS WELL.
INTEREST RATES ARE AS LOW AS 4% FOR BUSINESSES AND 3.625.
FOR PRIVATE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THOSE THAT WERE AFFECTED TO APPLY.
'CAUSE ONCE THEY'RE APPROVED, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THE LOAN.
THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEIR INSURANCE TO SETTLE.
AND FOR THE FIRST YEAR, PAYMENTS AND INTEREST ARE DEFERRED.
UH, THE DEADLINE TO APPLY FOR A PHYSICAL DAMAGE LOAN DID PASS, BUT THERE IS A 60 DAY GRACE PERIOD.
AND SO THE DEADLINE NOW IS NOVEMBER 27TH FOR A PHYSICAL DAMAGE LOAN FOR ECONOMIC INJURY.
IT IS IN, ON APRIL 20, APRIL 6TH, 2026.
UH, FOR MORE INFORMATION, UM, THEY CAN ALSO VISIT SBA.GOV/DISASTER.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND OPPORTUNITY FOR, SO I CAN SHARE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE THAT NEED IT MOST WILL HAVE THE INFORMATION AND I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL.
ALRIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES THE IN-PERSON COMMENTS.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS, ONE FROM ZACHARY PETERSON AND ONE FROM TONYA WARD.SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY KNOW WE DID OR LET THEM KNOW WE DID RECEIVE THOSE.
[8.1. Consideration and possible action regarding possible appointments, re-appointments and/or removals to City Boards, Commissions, Task Forces, Economic Development Corporations, Local Government Corporations and Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone Boards, and Area Government appointments. ]
US TO ITEM EIGHT ONE CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING POSSIBLE APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENTS AND OR REMOVALS TO CITY BOARDS, COMMISSIONS, TASK FORCES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATIONS, AND TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE BOARDS, AND AREA GOVERNMENT APPOINTMENTS.UM, THE, UM, SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MET, AND WE HAVE, UH, I, I PLACED IN THE, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, MESSAGE, UH, CENTER, UM, OUR NOMINATIONS AND, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND A LITTLE BIT OF, OF A BACKGROUND ON THAT.
HOPE EVERYONE GOT TO LOOK AT THE NEO GOV SITE AND PULL THOSE UP.
SO AFTER THAT, OUR NOMINATING COMMITTEE HAS RECOMMENDED, UH, THE NOMINATION FOR THE, UH, THE DEIB COMMISSION OF BODHI ADENINE AND TERRANCE HOLLINGSWORTH.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT BOTH OF THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR THE DEIB COMMISSION.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, I BELIEVE PLACE, EXCUSE ME, SEAT ONE FOR BODIE, AND SEAT FOUR FOR TERRANCE.
SECONDED BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE MAYOR PRO TIM THORNTON.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
ANY OTHER ITEM? ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? NO, WE'RE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.
WE HAVE ONE OPENING FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION AND NO, UM, APPLICATIONS ON FILE.
SO IF ANYONE'S INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION IF YOU'RE WATCHING THIS OR IF YOU'RE HERE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OPENINGS ON THESE.
IS IT Z-B-A-Z-B-A? WE HAVE THREE OPENINGS AND TWO OPENINGS AND THREE VACANCIES FOR ALTERNATIVES.
SO A LOT OF HELP WE NEEDED FOR ZONING, BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS.
IT DOESN'T SOUND REAL SEXY, DOESN'T SOUND REAL EXCITING, BUT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO COME BEFORE THAT BOARD TO GET ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO SOME OF THE ZONING ISSUES AND THEY CAN'T MEET WITHOUT A FULL QUORUM.
SO THAT'S, IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT BOARD.
SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN APPLYING FOR THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
AND, AND THERE ARE THREE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THE BUILDING AND STANDARDS, AND ALSO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS WHERE WE HAVE A, A LOT OF OPENINGS.
SO I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY AND CITIZENS TO, TO APPLY FOR ANY OR ALL OF THOSE BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF CROSS, UH, UM, SKILLS AND INTERESTS AND EXPERIENCE THAT WE CAN SHARE.
AND IF YOU'RE ON ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH MEETS MAYBE THREE OR FOUR TIMES A YEAR, IT'S A GOOD STEPPING STONE FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.
IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GONE FROM ZBA ONTO PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEN BUILDING STANDARDS IS ABOUT THE ENGINEERING MANUAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO, TO APPLY FOR ANY, ANY OR ALL THREE OF THOSE.
AND WE WILL START GETTING SOME INTERVIEWS GOING ON TO FULFILL THOSE EMPTY POSITIONS.
[8.2. Consideration and possible action regarding recommendations or updates from City Council sub-committees (i.e. HISD, CIP, UDC, Public Safety, Co-Op). ]
RIGHT.NEXT WE HAVE ITEM EIGHT TWO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING RECOMMENDATIONS OR UPDATES FROM CITY COUNCIL SUBCOMMITTEES, THE ISD ONE MEETS TOMORROW, CIP.
WE JUST GOT COMMENTS BACK FROM STAFF, SO THAT'LL BE COMING BACK TO COUNCIL.
PUBLIC SAFETY HAS NOT COME BACK TO US AND THE CO-OP, I THINK WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR AN AGREEMENT.
C'S NOT HERE, BUT DO, HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM? OBJECTION FOR THE, UM, THE, THE SWAP, THE LAND SWAP.
OH, RIGHT, THERE'S AN ITEM FOR THAT.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THE OUTSTANDING ITEMS ON THAT? OR WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? OR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, AS I REMEMBER, WE HAD A DISCUSSION.
WE WENT THROUGH ESSENTIALLY A BREAKDOWN OF ALL THE COSTS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE GOING BACK, WE ASKED THEM TO DO IS TO GO BACK.
THEY HAD US FIGURED AT, I BELIEVE IT WAS LIKE A POPULATION OF, WAS IT 80,000 BY 2030? DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT, PETER? I THINK SO.
IT WAS A HIGHER POPULATION, WHAT WE THOUGHT, WHICH WAS CAUSING, UH, IN THEIR FORMULA MORE OFFICERS NEEDED.
AND SO JAMES SAW THAT WOULD BE CLOSER TO 50,000.
SO THAT ONE THING THEY WERE GONNA DO IS RERUN ALL THAT.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WAS WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A, UM, NOT NECESSARILY A DETAILED FLOOR PLAN, BUT SOME KIND OF LAYOUT TO WHERE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE WORKING.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? UH, YOU TWO GUYS THAT ARE ON THERE? YEAH.
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BUT THAT SHOULD BE COMING HERE PRETTY SOON.[9.1. Capital Improvement Projects (CIP) Updates and Presentations (Matt Rector)]
NINE ONE, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, CIP, UPDATES AND PRESENTATIONS.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE DID THIS, SO THIS IS GONNA BE A LONG ONE, BUT I'M GONNA TRY TO GO FAST.
UH, BEFORE I GET TOO INTO THE WEEDS, I WANTED TO DO, THIS IS MY ONE CHANCE TO REALLY COME IN HERE AND BRAG ON MY ENGINEERING TEAM.
UH, SO I WANTED TO JUST DO A RECAP OF WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR.
614 PLAN REVIEWS THAT INCLUDES SCRS, TIAS, CONSTRUCTION PLAN, SITE PLANS, PLA DRAINAGE PLANS, UH, PUDS, OTHER ITEMS, 251 CITY COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS. YES, THE MAJORITY OF THE ITEMS THAT BOG YOU GUYS DOWN AND KEEP YOU HERE TILL MIDNIGHT ON A REGULAR BASIS COME FROM ME.
UH, 62 CIP PROJECTS THAT WE MANAGED.
98 CONSULTANT CONTRACTS WITH 40 DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS, 31 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS WITH 23 DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS, 22 CIP PROJECTS COMPLETED.
FOR THE RECORD, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE OVER 40 IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, WHICH IS MORE THAN HUDA HAS DONE AS FAR BACK AS I CAN FIND.
AVERAGE INVOICING FOR CONSULTANTS IS ABOUT $2.5 MILLION A MONTH.
AVERAGE INVOICING FOR CONTRACTORS IS ABOUT $7.8 MILLION A MONTH.
WE'VE ALSO ASSISTED WITH UDC REWRITE.
WE'VE ALSO STARTED, UH, WELL WE, WE HAVE AN ENGINEERING MANUAL THAT IS, IS WAITING FOR GUIDANCE SO THAT WE CAN GET THAT APPROVED.
SO, UH, I JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO MY TEAM.
WE ARE SMALL, BUT WE ARE MOVING FAST AND FURIOUS AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF STUFF DONE.
TRANSPORTATION, UH, SO, UH, THIS IS THE SIDEWALK PROJECT.
UH, REAL QUICK, I'M JUST GONNA FLY THROUGH THESE, SO STOP ME WHEREVER YOU NEED TO.
1660 AT LIMMER, WE'RE SAYING THIS ONE IS COMPLETE.
THERE'S A FEW LITTLE CLEANUP THINGS THAT THEY'RE STILL DOING, LIKE ESTABLISHING VEGETATION.
THERE'S A SIGN THAT THEY STILL NEED TO PUT UP, BUT BASICALLY WE'RE DONE.
1660 SOUTH IS 79, OBVIOUSLY NOT DONE ON THIS ONE.
WE ARE BACK IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH UPRR, TRYING TO GET THEM TO DO FINAL SIGN OFF ON THE PLANS AND GET THE CHRISTIE GRANT DOCUMENTATION IN PLACE.
WE ARE STILL ANTICIPATING GETTING THIS ONE INTO CONSTRUCTION IN 20 26, 1 37 FROM 1660 AND, AND, UH, SORRY, 1 37 AT 1660, STILL NOT INTO CONSTRUCTION.
UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT PLANS ARE NOW IN REVIEW WITH BOTH US AND TXDOT.
SO WE JUST NEED TO COMPLETE THE DESIGN AND WE ARE STILL ANTICIPATING GETTING THIS ONE INTO CONSTRUCTION IN 2026.
IS THAT HOW YOU WANT US TO DO IT? THAT WORKS.
I'D LIKE US TO LOOK AT THIS ONE.
UM, IF THERE, IF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE EDC ATTORNEY SEE AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING THIS BID Q4 25, I THINK Q4 25 STARTED YESTERDAY.
AND SO WHATEVER THE BIDDING IS, I DON'T KNOW HOW, IF YOU WENT FURTHER DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING MAYBE COMING UP TO WHERE WE'RE SAYING, DO WE WANNA TRY TO BID THIS OUT AND DO IT IN A MANNER WHERE THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, PENALTIES AND THINGS FOR PEOPLE MISSING DEADLINES? 'CAUSE YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO CONSIDER, SORRY, UH, FOR THE RECORD, JAMES OR ANDREW, YOU, YOU WANT TO CONSIDER THIS PROJECT TO BE, UH, TO BE MANAGED THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? MM-HMM
AND THEN THAT WOULD COME TO A VOTER COUNCIL AS TO WHETHER WE WOULD GO THAT ROUTE OR NOT.
SO REMEMBER THIS IS THE PHASE THREE THAT YOU GUYS PUT ON HOLD.
WE ARE STILL PERIODICALLY REACHING OUT TO THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE OF THEM TO SIGN UP.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M MARKING THIS ONE AS DONE BECAUSE I, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH IT OTHER THAN SIT THE SIT ON THE DESIGN 1 32 OVERPASS.
AGAIN, I'M SORRY, I'M SAYING THIS ONE'S COMPLETE.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW A BETTER WORD FOR IT.
WE'VE PUT IT ON HOLD EFFECTIVELY AND INDEFINITELY UNTIL WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE, UH, COTTONWOOD PROPERTY AND, AND EVERYTHING OVER IN THAT AREA.
SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THAT, DID WE KNOW ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT WHAT TDOT'S DOING AT THAT INTERSECTION? WE DO THE ONLY, I MEAN I HAVEN'T FOLLOWED UP WITH TXDOT RECENTLY.
LAST I HAD HEARD IS THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON A PROJECT TO HAVE A SIGNAL, A TEMPORARY, LIKE A CABLE SIGNAL OUT THERE, UH, IN EARLY IN 26.
I THINK THEY WERE GONNA TARGET JANUARY.
BUT WITH ALL OF THE STUFF THAT'S HAPPENED WITH FUNDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I DON'T KNOW WHERE.
I'LL HAVE TO CHECK WITH THEIR NEW TIMELINE IS I THINK IT'D BE GOOD FOR US TO FOLLOW UP AND BE ABLE TO AS A CITY
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HAVE THAT STORY OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC OF OKAY, WHAT, WHERE TEXT DOT'S AT ON THAT.UH, SO WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE THE DESIGN A HUNDRED PERCENT.
DESIGN IS IN REVIEW RIGHT NOW.
AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE CONSTRUCTION WAS NOT PUT IN THE CIP SO I CHANGED EVERYTHING ON THIS SLIDE TO BASICALLY SAY BIDDING, CONSTRUCTION AND COMPLETION ARE TBD TO BE DETERMINED.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS MY ENGINEERING SOUP.
AND ON THAT ONE I WAS THINKING, WE TALKED IN THE BUDGET ABOUT SPENDING THE MONEY TO PUT A LAYER AND HAVE EVERYTHING SMOOTH OUT TO WHERE THE BASE MAY NEED TO BE REPLACED IN A FEW YEARS.
BUT UNTIL THEN EVERYBODY HAS IT SMOOTH.
IS THAT PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING AT IT.
PUBLIC WORKS NOT PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING AT IT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WOULD DO AN OVERLAY.
SOME OF IT IS GONNA NEED SOME PATCHING BECAUSE THERE'S CLEARLY BASE FAILURE WITH RUTTING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT, UH, PUBLIC WORKS IS LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW.
EDGE SCHMIDT, SO THIS ONE IS, UH, SIDEWALK IS OUT ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW FOR BIDS.
THE INTERSECTION IS IN A HUNDRED PERCENT REVIEW AND SO IT SHOULD BE FALLING PRETTY MUCH CLOSELY RIGHT BEHIND TO GET INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO EARLY 26 CONSTRUCTION IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING TO START FOR THE SIGNAL.
AND ON THAT WE'RE, WHEN IT COMES TO SIDEWALKS, DID WE EVER DETERMINE THE BAYLOR SCOTT WHITE PIECE? ARE THEY GONNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING THEIR OWN SIDEWALKS SINCE THEY HAVE TO BRING UP TO CODE OR, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THAT MEETING.
IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE DOING A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORK AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE AERIAL AND THERE'S NOT AS MUCH SIDEWALK AS WE MAYBE NEEDED THAT WE EVER FIGURED ALL THAT OUT.
UM, SO I KNOW THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TALKING ABOUT BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE AND AT THE TIME I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE PROJECT, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S MORE OF LIKE ON THE BUILDING SIDE OF THINGS.
AND THEN THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT IF THEY'RE CHANGING USE AND WHEN DID THEY CHANGE USE AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND SO, UM, NOW THAT I'M EXPANDING MY UMBRELLA INTO OTHER AREAS, UM, I, I CAN DIG INTO THAT MORE WITH THE, WITH THE BUILDING TEAM AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE AT AND, AND TALK TO THOSE GUYS ABOUT HAVING A, HAVING THEM TAKE SOME OF THE SIDEWALK OFF OF OUR HANDS.
I JUST DON'T WANNA PAY FOR A SIDEWALK THAT WE MAKE EVERY BUSINESS PUT 'EM IN.
AND SO FOR ME, I JUST DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA PAY FOR A SIDEWALK THAT SOMEONE ELSE SUPPOSED TO PUT IN.
AND THEN ALSO DON'T WANT TO PAY SOMEONE TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN.
SO THIS ONE IS, I I'M CALLING IT COMPLETE.
IT'S, IT'S OPEN, IT'S FUNCTIONAL.
UH, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH ALL THE PAPERWORK PROCESS OF CLOSING OUT THE PROJECT INNOVATION AT LIMMER.
THIS ONE IS IN CONSTRUCTION, SO WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR CONSTRUCTION COMPLETION AND UM, WE ARE GOING THROUGH SOME ADDITIONAL TESTING ON SOME OF THE CONCRETE AND WE ARE WAITING FOR THE POLES AND, AND, AND MASTER ARMS AND STUFF TO BE DELIVERED SO THAT THOSE CAN GO VERTICAL.
SO WHAT, WHAT WAS THEIR, WHAT'S THE DEADLINE ON ON THAT CONTRACT? THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO, TO GET IT DONE? UH, SO I HAD ACTUALLY TALKED TO MY STAFF TO HAVE THEM DIG INTO THE CONTRACT.
I BELIEVE THAT THEIR TIMELINE WAS LIKE NOW TO BE DONE.
AND SO I'VE TOLD MY STAFF GO BACK AND LOOK AT THEIR CONTRACT, VERIFY THE ACTUAL DATE WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, AND THEN SEND THEM THEIR NOTICE OF DEFICIENCY SO THAT WE PUT THEM ON NOTICE PER LEGALLY.
WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM NOTICE THAT THEY'RE IN LIQUIDATED DAMAGES AND THAT WE'RE GONNA START CHARGING THOSE AND THEN KEEP PUSHING THEM ALONG TO MOVE THEM AS, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF THE BEST THAT I CAN DO WITH, WITH THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE IN PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO FIX.
BECAUSE WHEN THIS THING GOT BIT IN MARCH AND THEN SHORTLY THEREAFTER I THINK SOMEONE DIED.
AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT I THINK THERE ARE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES YOU COULD PROVE IF WE HAD TEETH.
BUT THIS IS WHERE I THINK SOMETHING'S WRONG WITH OUR CONTRACTS.
AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN RAILING FOR, I DON'T KNOW, TWO OR THREE YEARS WE'RE NOT GETTING STUFF DONE.
AND SO AS POLITELY AS I CAN SAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO GET THE MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY THAT IF WE BID SOMETHING OUT IN MARCH, MY OPINION IS, AND SIX PEOPLE MAY DISAGREE WITH ME, YOU BID IT OUT IN MARCH, CONSTRUCTION STARTS IN APRIL.
IF THEY SAY, HEY, CAN WE WAIT TILL JUNE WHEN SCHOOL GETS OUT? WE'LL, WE'LL WHY'D YOU BID ON THE PROJECT? WE'LL GO WITH NUMBER TWO.
AND THEN IF THEY MISS A DEADLINE, THIS PROBABLY IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE GOTTA DO HAVE SOME TEETH IN TO WHERE I FEEL LIKE WE JUST KEEP GETTING PUNKED AS A, IT'S JUST OVER AND OVER.
THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE PROJECT, THIS ISN'T ON YOU, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ON YOU, BUT COLLECTIVELY YOU'RE THE HEAD GUY AND NOW YOU'RE THE HEAD GUY.
AND SO I'M LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOTTA TALK ABOUT CHANGES.
LIKE I TOLD JAMES THIS WEEK, I WAS LIKE, THE ONLY THING I CAN TELL PEOPLE IS BAD MANAGEMENT.
IF, IF IT KEEPS CONTINUING OVER AND OVER.
AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HERE UP HERE DISAGREE WITH ME THAT I WANNA TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND HEY, IT'S GONNA SLOW PROJECTS DOWN.
THIS WAS JUST A FREAKING SIGNAL.
I'VE SEEN A CONVENIENCE PANERA BREAD GOT BUILT
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FASTER THAN THESE GUYS COULD PUT THE FOOTINGS IN FOR A SIGNAL AND PUT IT UP.AND SO AGAIN, I'M KIND OF VENTING A LITTLE BIT, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE A CHANGE TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE LIKE SHAKEN WHEN THEY SIGN THE CONTRACT.
'CAUSE THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY MISS THEIR TIMELINE, 'CAUSE EVERY TIME SOMEONE HAS AN ACCIDENT OUT THERE, I'M LIKE, DAMN, THAT'S KIND OF ON US.
BUT, AND AND WHAT'S THE, I DON'T KNOW, ALL THE LEGAL STUFF.
DO WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE CONTRACT TO PUT THEM ON NOTICE FOR LIQUIDATED DAMAGES? COULD WE NOT DO THAT AHEAD OF TIME? SAY, HEY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA MEET IT.
SO GUESS WHAT? DAY ONE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, 5,000 A DAY OR WHATEVER IT IS, PUT 'EM ON NOTICE EARLY.
SO WE HAVE, SO THE CONTRACT STATES THEIR SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE.
WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT DATE TO NOTIFY THEM THAT THEY ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR CONTRACT.
AND THEN WE PUT THAT IN WRITING AND SAY, YOU ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR CONTRACT.
AND SO SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION PREDATES FINAL COMPLETION.
AND SO LEGALLY THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I'VE ALWAYS OPERATED IS AT THAT TIME IS WHEN WE SEND OUT THE LETTER BECAUSE WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM OTHERWISE THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY, WELL YOU NEVER TOLD US.
WE THAT WE, THAT THAT DATE TRIGGERS THE NOTICE.
SO WE, SO WE'RE NOT AT FINAL COMPLETION, BUT WE ARE MOST LIKELY PAST SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION.
I BELIEVE THAT WE, I BELIEVE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION WAS LIKE EITHER SEPTEMBER 30TH OR OCTOBER 1ST.
I WAS THINKING IT WAS THE 30TH.
BUT YEAH, I I I DON'T, I DON'T, YEAH, I HAVE TOO MANY CONTRACTS TO MEMORIZE 'EM ALL.
'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, UH, MAYOR'S POINT, YOU KNOW, IS MAKING SURE WE'RE ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE THIS, THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION IS YEAH.
AND CAN THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZE THE, THE POSTING OF A FOUR EIGHT SIGN THAT SAYS THIS CONTRACTOR IS THE ONE THAT'S FAILING US RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, I'M LITERALLY LIKE, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, JUST NOT WORKING.
SO I'M LIKE, IF WE'VE GOTTA SHAME PEOPLE TO DO THEIR JOB, THEY THEY WANNA GET PAID AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE ARMS UP, I MEAN, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
DID THEY EVEN ORDER THE ARMS? AND IF THEY DIDN'T ORDER THE ARMS, THAT COULD BE ANOTHER TWO OR THREE MONTH LEAD TIME.
AND THEN I'M, I'M JUST LIKE, THAT'S THE CRAZY STUFF I'M READY TO DO TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY GO, NO, WE REALLY CAN'T DO THAT.
OR IF YOU GUYS WANNA BE THE FIRST ONE TO DO THAT, IF, IF YOU SEND ME THE CONTRACT, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND GET A MEMO OUT TO COUNCIL TO, BECAUSE THERE WAS A BILLBOARD ONCE WENT UP FOR A COUNTY COMMISSIONER THAT SAID, IF YOU'RE TIRED OF DRIVING THIS ROUGH SUCH AND SUCH ROAD, CALL THIS NUMBER.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, WHATEVER THEIR PHONE NUMBER IS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE LEGALLY DOING SOMETHING.
BUT THEY DID SAY THEY WOULD GET IT DONE BY A CERTAIN TIME.
AND I WOULD THINK WE'VE BEEN SINCE MARCH, BEEN PRETTY PATIENT TO WHERE MAYBE WE'VE GOTTA GET A REPUTATION FOR YOU MISS A DEADLINE AND THESE PEOPLE DO CRAZY STUFF.
DON'T MISS A DEADLINE OR DON'T BID ON THE PROJECT.
DO DO WE HAVE A A A REAL, I MEAN A A A HARD DATE WHEN WE THINK CONSTRUCTION'S GOING TO BEGIN REAL CONSTRUCTION? I I I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY REAL CONSTRUCTION.
WELL, I MEAN, DO I, I'M SORRY.
I OH, DO WE HAVE A A TENTATIVE DATE FOR WHEN WE HAVE SOME REAL CONSTRUCTION GOING ON THERE? THEY GOT THE FOOTINGS AND STUFF IN, BUT WE'RE JUST WAITING.
I THINK HE'S WANT LIKE A, I THINK WE'RE WANTING SOMEONE TO BE STANDING OUT THERE OR LIKE A TRUCK PARKED OUT THERE OR JUST SOMETHING.
SO WHEN PEOPLE ARE LIKE DRIVING AND TAKING THEIR LIFE IN THEIR OWN HANDS THAT THEY CAN GO, PROGRESS IS COMING, HOPEFULLY I CAN MAKE IT.
WHEREAS RIGHT NOW YOU JUST DRIVE BY AND YOU'RE LIKE, WELL YOU CAN PUT A SIGN UP, FILE A CLAIM AGAINST THAT CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR.
I'LL MAKE AN, I'LL MAKE AN AGENDA ITEM.
DID YOU HAVE AN ACCIDENT
HERE'S THE CONTRACTOR, HERE'S HER INSURANCE, HERE'S HER NUMBER.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS FOR, FOR THE CITIZENS TO KINDA UNDERSTAND WHEN DO WE BELIEVE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME REAL CONSTRUCTION GOING ON? I MEAN, BECAUSE IT, SO THE REAL CONSTRUCTION, LIKE THE FOOTINGS AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF IS, IS BUILT RIGHT? THAT'S SO YOU'RE WAITING ON THE POLES TO ARRIVE TO BE ERECTED.
OH, SO THAT'S THE ISSUE THEY'RE WAITING ON TO GO VERTICAL.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING, YES.
CONCRETE, CONCRETE FOUNDATIONS ARE IN THE GROUND.
WE'RE WAITING ON THE POLES AND THE MAED ARMS, BUT THERE'S ALSO LANE CHANGES, THE RIGHT TURN LANES AND AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO DOES THAT REQUIRE THE HARDWARE FOR THE POLES TO START PUTTING THE LANES IN THERE? NO, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE HARDWARE FOR THE POLES TO START PUTTING LANES IN THERE.
DO THEY STILL HAVE LANES TO PUT IN? UM, I DON'T HAVE THE PLANS UP THERE.
WE WOULD, I MAYBE JUST DO THIS.
YEAH, MAYBE ONCE YOU GUYS KNOW THE DATES EXACT THAT'S FINE AND ALL THAT.
MAYBE GIVE US A THING BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO START SHARING THIS WITH PEOPLE 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING LIT UP ON THIS ONE AND IT'S LIKE, HEY, WE BID IT OUT AND APPROVED IT IN MARCH.
I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT IF YOU JUST GIVE US ALL AN UPDATE AND THEN WE CAN DISSEMINATE IT.
UH, EXCHANGE BOULEVARD AT LIMMER.
SO THIS ONE, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING THROUGH PAPERWORK, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE CALLING THIS ONE DONE EXCHANGE BOULEVARD.
UH, AND WHERE LIVE OAK INTERSECTS EXCHANGE, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE ROUGHLY AT A HUNDRED PERCENT
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DESIGN COMPLETE.THE REASON WHY I SAY ROUGHLY A HUNDRED PERCENT DESIGN COMPLETE IS BECAUSE WE'RE NOW GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF NEGOTIATING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND SOME OF THE LANDOWNERS ARE ASKING FOR US TO TWEAK OUR PLANS.
AND SO IT'S, IT'S A GIVE OR TAKE KIND OF THING.
HEY MATT, WHEN THE ONES YOU'RE SAYING COMPLETE, WE'RE WAITING ON PAPERWORK, ARE YOU SAYING LIKE CLOSE OUT DOCS, THAT KIND OF THING? YEAH.
BUT AS FAR AS EVERYBODY ELSE IS CONCERNED, WHO DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALL THE PAPERWORK? RIGHT? PROJECT IS DONE, IS DONE.
THIS IS A BRAND NEW ONE THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED ON IT.
UM, AND STILL WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK WITH ISD AND TDOT TO TALK THROUGH THE REPORTS THAT THE ISD HAS SUBMITTED TO TXDOT BECAUSE OF THEIR PROJECT UP THERE.
AND SO, UM, I'M ACTUALLY INTENTIONALLY HOLDING BACK ON SELECTING A FIRM FOR THIS ONE BECAUSE I WANNA SEE HOW THAT ALL PLAYS OUT BEFORE I JUMP TOO FAR OUT INTO THE GAME AHEAD OF EVERYBODY ELSE.
UH, 1 63 DESIGN IS ABOUT 60% COMPLETE, BUT AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU, YOU, WE HAD, WE PUSHED CONSTRUCTION ON THAT ONE BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING THAT 1 37 WAS GONNA GO FIRST, WHICH IT IS.
AND SO 1 63, WE'VE PULLED CONSTRUCTION OUT OF THERE FOR NOW AND IT'LL COME BACK AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.
BUT YOU'RE STILL TAKING A DESIGN TO 100% BEFORE OKAY.
UH, SO AGAIN, PS AND E ARE BASICALLY DONE.
WE'RE DOING ALL THE RIGHT OF WAY STUFF, STILL TRYING TO FIGHT THROUGH ALL THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LANDOWNERS.
ONE OF 'EM IS WE'RE NEGOTIATING WITH THE COUNTY TRYING TO FIGURE ALL THAT OUT.
BUT SO WE'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND TWEAK THE PLANS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE BASICALLY THERE.
UH, SO PLANS, UH, SPECIFICATIONS AND ENGINEERING, RIGHT? PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS.
YOU, I KNOW YOU THE ONE THAT SAID IT.
ON THAT ONE IS, I REMEMBER ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK THAT'S BEEN PUSHED TO IN THE CIP PLAN, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE RIGHT WHERE IT STARTS TO THE WEST, WE'RE GETTING READY TO BLOW THAT INTERSECTION UP IN SPRINGTIME.
AND SO THE THOUGHT BEING, YOU DON'T WANT THAT INTERSECTION AND ALL THIS BEING DONE, RIGHT? SO DO ONE INTERSECTION, HAVE THIS ONE COMPLETE DESIGNED, READY TO GO.
YOU OPEN UP 76 AND 1660 SOUTH AND THEN THE NEXT DAY YOU TEAR UP FROM THE EAST OF IT.
AND THAT WAY WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THROUGH.
AND THIS ALSO GOES BACK TO THE 1 32 AND AND 79 LIGHT.
THAT'S NOT A SOLUTION, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A PATCH THAT HELPS THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE TO HAVE A WAY TO GET OUT SAFELY.
SO THIS WAS REALLY JUST A COST SHARE THING THAT WE DID WITH WCO.
YOU CAN SEE THE SIGNS ARE UP THERE ON THE OVERPASS.
SO THIS ONE IS COMPLETE FROM A TRACKING PERSPECTIVE.
I BELIEVE THAT FINANCES EVEN PAID THE AMOUNT THAT WE OWED WILLIAMSON COUNTY.
HOW MUCH WAS THAT AGAIN? BALLPARK? UH, FINALLY 90.
IT WAS AROUND 95,000, BUT I DON'T, I THINK IT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.
HERE'S ALL I CAN SAY IS, LET'S CALL IT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
DOES ANYBODY FEEL RIPPED OFF WHEN THEY SEE THAT? THAT YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENED FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS? IS THAT BECAUSE WE BID IT OUT OR IS THAT BECAUSE WE PIGGYBACKED ON THE COUNTY? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S THE SPECIFIC CONTRACTOR THAT WAS ON THAT JOB.
WHENEVER WE DECIDED TO ADD THE SIGNAGE, THEY ARE THE TYPE OF CONTRACTOR WHO IS VERY BIG ON CHANGE ORDERS.
SO THEY HAD TO DO TRAFFIC CONTROL AND SHUT DOWN TRAFFIC ON 79 AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BECAUSE REMEMBER THE FIRST, THE FIRST NUMBER WE WERE GIVEN WAS EVEN WAS SMALLER THAN THAT.
AND THEN THEY, AND THEN THEY CAME BACK WITH AN EVEN HIGHER NUMBER AND THEN IT WAS, WELL TAYLOR DECIDED THEY'D PAY.
SO THEN IT WAS, WELL, IF WE DON'T PAY THEN THERE'S NO HU ON THE BRIDGE AT ALL.
IT'S JUST WELCOME TO TAYLOR THAT THAT'S HOW THAT WHOLE THING WENT DOWN.
SO, UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE THINK VERY CAREFULLY ABOUT USING THAT CONTRACTOR ON ANYTHING IN THE CITY.
'CAUSE I JUST WANT EVERYBODY KNOW WHEN YOU DRIVE OUT TOWN, YOU SEE THE LITTLE BITTY SIGN AT 60 MILES AN HOUR, THAT WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT THAT'S A HELL OF LOT OF SIDEWALKS COULD HAVE GOT BUILT.
AND I KNOW WE GET CAUGHT UP AND WE DON'T WANT TAYLOR ON THAT SIDE, BUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS BASICALLY I SEE US TO NOT HAVE TAYLOR HAVE LITTLE BITTY LETTERS ON OUR SIDE OF THE BRIDGE.
IS THE LIGHTING UP TOO? I I'VE NEVER, I DON'T THINK I'VE DRIVEN UNDER IT AT NIGHT.
UH, I IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, I HAVEN'T DRIVEN IT AT NIGHT, BUT I WILL TONIGHT WHEN WE LEAVE HERE.
SO I, I CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT'S WHY THAT'S, THAT WAS PART OF THE COST WAS THE ELECTRICITY AND THE LIGHTING TOO.
SO YEAH, IF THEY DIDN'T DO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
I'M PRETTY SURE THE LIGHTS ARE UP ON THE LOGOS.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT LIGHTING ON THE WELCOME TO HU AND THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR VISITING HU WELCOME TO TAYLOR LIGHTS ON THAT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S LIGHTS ON THAT.
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AS SMALL AS THE LETTERS IT COULD BE ON, BUT YOU'RE DRIVING 65 MILES AN HOUR AND YOU DON'T SEE IT EXACTLY.AND TO BE FAIR, I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S THAT MANY PEOPLE THAT DRIVE 65 IN THAT STRETCH OF ROAD ANYWAY.
SO WE'RE 90% DESIGN COMPLETE ON THIS ONE.
UH, TRYING TO PUSH THROUGH TO COMPLETION AND THEN THERE'S NO TIMELINE ON CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THAT HASN'T BEEN AUTHORIZED OR FUNDED YET.
INNOVATION IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE ADDED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS.
SO AGAIN, IT HASN'T STARTED BECAUSE WE'RE TWO DAYS INTO THE
UM, SO WE HAVEN'T GOT THAT ROLLING YET.
CR 1 32 90% DESIGN COMPLETE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION IS IN PROGRESS.
WE'VE GOT THREE PARCELS STILL LOOMING.
AND THEN, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, BIDDING IN EARLY 26 CONSTRUCTION, MID 26 AND BEING DONE IN 27.
MY AT EDGE SCHMIDT IS ONE OF THE NEW ONES THAT WAS ADDED AND OBVIOUSLY WE HAVEN'T STARTED ON IT JUST LIKE THE OTHER ONES WERE ONLY DAY TWO.
LIMMER LOOP AND INNOVATION AND EDGE SCHMIDT.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE TONIGHT.
UH, WE'VE HAD IT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON.
WE HAD, UM, AN OPEN HOUSE TO TALK THROUGH IT.
THERE'S NO TIMELINE ON CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN AUTHORIZED OR APPROVED YET.
AND THIS IS THE COUNTERPART TO IT, WHICH IS GOING FROM ED SCHMIDT TO 1660 SCH SCHEMATICS DONE.
THERE'S A PRESENTATION ON IT LATER TONIGHT AND THERE WAS A, A MEETING ON IT LAST NIGHT AND THEN, UH, IT'S BEEN OUT FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON AS WELL.
AND AND IS THAT THE ONE WE'RE GETTING UPDATE ON LATER IN THE MEETING? YES.
BOTH, BOTH THOSE TWO LIMMER LOOPS.
UH, AND THEN BEFORE YOU GO ON, I JUST WANT TO PAUSE BECAUSE WE MOVED THROUGH IT SO FAST.
THE, THE LIVE OAK EXTENSION MM-HMM
THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT WE WANT CONSIDERED FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
MOSTLY BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY STARTED DOWN THAT PATH OF TALKING TO SOME FOLKS TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
I'M GONNA TRY EVERY ROAD ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND I GET AN ANSWER.
COUNSEL WILL NEED TO MAKE A DECISION WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO DETERMINE IF THAT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT OR NOT.
I THINK EVERY ROAD TO AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT
UM, AND THEN THAT LEADS US TO CARL STERN AND CHRIS KELLY.
AGAIN, THIS IS ONE THAT WAS ADDED DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, SO WE HAVEN'T STARTED ON IT YET.
UH, WE'LL GET THAT ONE ROLLING PRETTY QUICKLY.
UH, USUALLY THIS IS WHEN I START TO LOSE YOU GUYS 'CAUSE EVERYBODY CARES ABOUT ROWS.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE NON, THE NON-VISIBLE STUFF.
DO WE WANNA KEEP GOING THROUGH WATER WASTEWATER OR YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW OKAY.
I'M SEEING SOME NODS SAYING THIS.
'CAUSE ON WASTEWATER, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE 42 INCH LINE THAT'S GOING THROUGH THE COTTONWOOD PROPERTY.
AND THEN ALSO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT ON THE, UM, UH, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT EXPANSION.
BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS TRIGGERING ALL THE WAY UP BY, UM, DEVELOPMENT UP ON NORTH OF 79.
IT MAY BE SLOWING DOWN THE DEVELOPMENT THERE UNTIL WE KNOW FOR SURE WHEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY.
SO, OKAY, I'LL, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS FROM ANYBODY ELSE, I'LL JUMP TO WASTEWATER.
UH, SO YOU, YOU SAID THE 32 INCH, I'M NOT SURE.
THE 42 INCH FROM THE COTTONWOOD.
AND THE 42 INCH IT GOES DOWN, IT GOES UNDER IT IS THIS ONE? YEP.
UH, SO THE 15 AND 21 INCH LINES ALONG 1 32 AND 79 ARE IN THE GROUND.
UH, THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY STARTED WORKING FROM THE CENTRAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT BACK TOWARDS 1 99.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THEM AND US AND, AND UPRR AND RAIL PROS.
RAIL PROS IS THEIR CONSTRUCTION INSPECTION TEAM.
AND SO I THINK I, I NEED LOTS OF WOOD TO KNOCK ON.
I THINK WE'RE CLOSE TO HAVING EVERYTHING DONE WITH UPRR AND RAIL PROS SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY GET THE TUNNEL UNDER 79 IN THE RAILROAD DONE.
BUT THE DEVELOPER IN THEIR CONTRACTOR HAVE BEEN WORKING, LIKE I SAID, THAT 15 AND 21 IS DONE.
THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED COMING BACK THE OTHER DIRECTION FROM THE CENTRAL PLANT.
IT'S REALLY JUST GONNA BE, THEY'RE OUT THERE REDOING SOME WATER LINES AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CONFLICTS, BUT IT'S REALLY THAT CENTRAL SEGMENT THAT WE'RE WAITING ON UPR AND RAIL PROS TO FINALLY COME TO SIGN UP ON.
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HEADING WEST INTO IT, THAT'S GONNA FEED ALL OF COTTONWOOD PROPERTY.WHERE ARE WE AT ON THAT ONE? DONE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOT HAVING ZERO CAPACITY ON THE 200 SOMETHING ACRES.
IT'S ALL GONNA BE READY TO GO AS LONG AS UPRR RAIL PROS THE PLANT IS OPEN AND READY TO TAKE IT ALL IN.
UH, AND THEN YOU ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE CENTRAL TREATMENT PLANT.
UH, SO YES, THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT I HAVE TOLD THAT THEY COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE AT THE CENTRAL PLANT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS, BUT JUST A REMINDER, WE'RE CURRENTLY RATED FOR 0.9, SORRY, NOT, NOT THE CENTRAL, THE SOUTH PHASE TWO, THE SOUTH PHASE TWO, THE EXPANSION FROM TWO TO SIX.
MY UNDERSTANDING WAS SOMETHING UP THERE OFF ONE 30 IS WAITING FOR THAT PLANT TO BE COMPLETED IN.
I THINK JAMES TOLD ME JULY MAYBE.
SO THE ENCLAVE LIFT STATION IS OUR PINCH POINT THAT'S CLOSEST TO ONE 30.
THAT IS THE LARGEST LIFT STATION IN THE CITY.
IT HAS A 20 INCH FORCE MAIN ATTACHED TO IT.
AND WE HAD LOOKED AT THIS LAST YEAR ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF EXPANDING THAT LIFT STATION.
WE WOULD'VE HAD TO BASICALLY REBUILD THE ENTIRE LIFT STATION BE AND LIKE DOUBLED ADDED, ADDED ANOTHER, WENT WELL, ADDED MORE PUMPS, ADDED ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND IT WAS GONNA BE, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER, I KNOW IT WAS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS MORE PRUDENT SINCE WE WERE ALSO GONNA BE DOING THIS BRUSHY CREEK PHASE FOUR FROM THE WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN TO DO THIS PROJECT, WHICH ELIMINATES THAT LIFT STATION AND ELIMINATES THE NEED TO EXPAND IT.
AND IT CAN CONVEY ALL OF THE FLOWS THAT WE ARE PROJECTING IN OUR PLANS FROM THAT SECTION OF THE CITY TO THE SOUTH PLANT WITH GRAVITY FOR PERPETUITY BASICALLY.
AND SO, YES, UH, THERE IS A PINCH POINT.
YES, I HAVE TOLD PROJECTS THAT THEY CANNOT MOVE FORWARD UNTIL THAT PINCH POINT IS ELIMINATED.
BUT WE'RE ALSO TELLING THEM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT AND WE ARE ANTICIPATING THIS PROJECT BEING READY TO ACCEPT FLOWS BY OCTOBER OF 26 OF 26 IS ALL THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF THE CITIES ON HOLD UNTIL, SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROJECT.
I MEAN IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EDC SOMETHING TO WHERE LIKE, HEY, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LIQUIDATED DAMAGES IF ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT IS WAITING, IN MY OPINION, WAITING ON THIS THING TO HAPPEN THAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE AN OCTOBER STRETCH INTO.
WE'RE IN 2028 AND GOING, I THINK WE JUST NEED LIKE ANOTHER COUPLE MONTHS AND WE'RE DONE.
SO TO ME, IF IT'S LIKE OCTOBER, THAT'S GOTTA BE LIKE THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE ARE GONNA BE BIDDING THIS PROJECT.
I THINK WE'RE PLANNING ON BIDDING IT EITHER NEXT MONTH.
SO I'VE, I'VE BEEN PUSHING THIS PARTICULAR CONSULTING TEAM VERY HARD TO MEET RIDICULOUS TIMELINES SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS OPENED UP AND WE CAN START HAVING ALL THAT AREA OVER THERE DEVELOP IF THE CITY BIDS IT OUT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ENFORCEMENT POWERS FROM WHAT COUNCILOR MORRISON AND I SAID WE BASICALLY HAVE NO ENFORCEMENT POWER.
SO TO ME THIS IS ANOTHER ONE TO WHERE, I MEAN, I DON'T MIND, I KNOW A COUPLE PEOPLE UP HERE DISAGREE WITH THIS, BUT IF WE SAY OCTOBER AND WE MISS IT, THEN IT'S JUST WE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING.
SO WHAT'S WHAT, I GUESS WHAT IS YOUR GUYS' PLAN TO MAKE SURE OCTOBER THIS THING IS UP AND GOING? 'CAUSE OTHERWISE IN DECEMBER IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO GET NEW, NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE JOB BECAUSE IT'S NOT OCTOBER.
IT'S LIKE, WELL, WASN'T THIS THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT MEETING LAST NIGHT IN THE LOBBY? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, UH, THE BRUSHY CREEK? YES.
WAS THAT LAST NIGHT? I THOUGHT LAST NIGHT WAS THE LIMMER, BUT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT NIGHT.
SO IF I'M, I'M, I HAVE TOO MANY MEETINGS GOING BECAUSE THIS IS WHERE THE, THE LIFT STATION IS BEING REPLACED WITH THE GRAVITY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE THE LIFT STATION AND THE FORCE MAIN.
SO I SPOKE TO THE ENGINEERING TEAM WAS THERE, IT HASN'T BEEN BID OUT, BUT WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME TUNNELING GOING ON MM-HMM
BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT STARTING THREE CREWS.
SO NOT HAVING ONE CREW JUST KINDA PEELING THE, THE, THE, THE, THE BANANAS OR THE APPLES SO TO SPEAK.
UM, BUT THE, SO THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE ATTACKING THIS FROM THREE DIFFERENT POSITIONS, KIND OF WORKING TOWARD THE METAL, LOOKING AT THE UH, UH, I GUESS IT'S OVER THERE UNDER 1 37.
THERE'S JUST SOME TUNNELING ASPECTS GOING ON.
SO I REALLY LIKE THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AGAIN, IT'S NOT BID OUT YET, BUT THERE'S MULTI PHASES OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
UM, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EGRESS FROM, YOU KNOW, FOR GETTING ON PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S THE HOA, HOW THIS IS SET UP, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PARK THAT.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY REALLY GOT
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A STRONG PLAN.NOW IT'S JUST GETTING THE BID AND IMPLEMENTING IT, SO TO SPEAK.
AND, AND, AND THE COUNCIL HAS SEEN MULTIPLE ACQUISITION PIECES COME TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO TALK THROUGH.
BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THAT NOW RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL WE'RE DONE WITH DESIGN TO BE STILL HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD PLAN, RIGHT? INNOVATION HAD A GOOD PLAN, THEY'RE GONNA START RIGHT AFTER SCHOOL LET'S OUT.
AND THEN BY AUGUST THEY STARTED DIGGING THE FOOTING FOR THE DIGGING A HOLE FOR THE FOOTING.
SO IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD PLAN, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE LIKE SOME SERIOUS TEETH IN THIS, THEN SOME OTHER PROJECT COMES AROUND AND GET BEHIND.
AND THEN TO ME THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE LIKE, HEY, WE WERE GONNA DO THREE, SOME THINGS CHANGED.
IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT SIX MONTH DELAY.
SO, SO WE'LL BRING THIS AND THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY BACK TO COUNCIL NEXT WEEK, AND Y'ALL WILL VOTE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WILL GO THROUGH THE EDC AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE 'EM OUT THE DOOR AND BEING BUILT IN 30 OR 45 DAYS.
AND IN INNOVATION, WE'D ALREADY BID THAT.
WE ALREADY HAD THE CONSTRUCTION IN THIS CASE WE DON'T RIGHT.
WE WERE ALREADY THERE AND IT'S SO, I MEAN, HINDSIGHT SHOULD HOPEFULLY HELP US AND ALSO LOOKING AT EDC.
BUT UM, THERE HAS TO BE THIS OCTOBER TIMER AND THAT'S THE THING WE TALKED, THEY TALKED ABOUT AND I EMPHASIZED AND HOW ARE WE GONNA GET THIS DONE AND SCHEDULING.
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY BROUGHT UP THAT WE HAVE MULTIPLE CREWS GOING IN AT THREE DIFFERENT PHASES INDEPENDENT.
SO THEY'RE NOT BUTTONING HEADS ON DIFFERENT PLAYS.
THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT ENTRY POINTS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE ON EACH END.
AND THEN THE TUNNELING ASPECTS, WHICH CAN BE SEPARATE.
SO ONCE THE O THE, UH, OVERLAND, UM, STRUCTURES ARE THERE, WE ALREADY HAVE THE TUNNELING DONE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A PLAN, BUT AGAIN, THAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE BIDDING PROCESS, WHETHER IT'S CD, C OR, OR CITY.
UM, LEARNING FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE ON ELIMINATION TO OTHER ONES IS TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TO BE DONE IN OCTOBER PERIOD.
SO IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A REALLY A NEGOTIABLE DATE.
AND I THINK TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALL THE, ALL THE EXPERTISE AND EVERYTHING, WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A GREAT PLAN THE SAME WAY WE HAVE BEEN UP UNTIL NOW IS FINE AND LET'S KEEP DOING IT.
AND THEN IF THE EBC DOING THE CONTRACT CAN PUT THE TEETH IN IT, THEN LET'S DO THAT BECAUSE THAT MAKES THE WHOLE THING BETTER.
SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE TRYING TO RIP THE WHOLE PROCESS APART.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THE END PRODUCT WITH THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS THAT'S NOT BEING EXECUTED THE WAY IT NEEDS TO.
I STILL WANT, I STILL WANT THE CITY ASSUMING THIS.
WELL, WE'LL WE WILL TALK NEXT WEEK ABOUT IT.
SO I'M COMPLETELY OFF MY GROOVE NOW 'CAUSE WE'RE BOUNCING AROUND.
SO IS THERE ANY OTHER PROJECTS THAT YOU GUYS WANTED TO HEAR ABOUT? YEAH, YOU HAVE HIS REPORT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BACK ON, BACK ON WATER.
UH, SO THAT IS WHAT YOU GUYS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE DAY TWO.
I, I HAVEN'T GOT THAT ROLLING YET.
CAN WE, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE'RE GONNA BRING THAT BACK.
SO I, YOU KNOW, WE DID ALLOCATE A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR THE, WHEN YOU SAY BRING IT BACK, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BRINGING THE AWARD BACK OR BRING BACK THE STUDY? HAVE A, HAVE SOME KIND OF, HAVE SOME KIND OF PROGRESS ON IT WHERE YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOUR PLAN IS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU CAN LAY OUT WHERE YOU THINK WE'RE GONNA GET TO DO THE STUDY AND WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE RESULTS.
JUST KIND OF, IF WE CAN GET TO IT SOME KIND OF A TIMELINE.
JUST SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE PUBLIC.
'CAUSE I, I THINK SOMETIMES WE GET SO CAUGHT UP, WE, WE APPROVE EVERYTHING AND THEN YOU'RE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, STUFF FROM LAST YEAR FINISHING UP AND THEN I'M JUST GUESSING HERE, OUTSIDE LOOKING IN IT BECOMES LIKE APRIL, MAY.
AND IT'S LIKE, OH YEAH, DAMN, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA GET A COUPLE MORE PROJECTS OUT HERE BECAUSE WE'RE IN THIS YEAR AND THEN COME JULY WE'RE BIDDING OUT A PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO TELL SOMEONE THE DATE AND THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THEN YOU GUYS KNOW, OKAY, WE GOT THIS READY BY, IF YOU SAY JUNE, AT LEAST WE TELL PEOPLE WE'RE DOING IT JUNE.
WE'RE NOT EXACTLY HAPPY WE, WE PUSH THIS.
BUT I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO, TO NOT SPEND $20 MILLION ON SOMETHING FROM STUDIES BEING DONE 30 MILES AWAY.
TO ME, I THINK IT'S A WHOLE LOT BETTER INVESTMENT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GONNA WORK AND THERE MAY BE A $5 MILLION FIX THAT SOLVES IT ALL AND WE JUST SAVE $15 MILLION.
UM, I KNOW THAT CONTRADICTS HAY MAKES WASTE AND SOMETIMES I'M LIKE, HEY, WE GOTTA GO FASTER, BUT ARE YOU UNDER WATER? WASTE WATER? THE ONLY COMPLAINT ABOUT BROWN WATER AND ROADS AROUND HERE.
THANKS MATT FOR, UH, SO NOW WE HAVE NINE
[9.2. Presentation updates for the Legends of Hutto Drainage Improvements project (D01- 2024). (Matt Rector)]
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TWO PRESENTATION UPDATES FOR THE LEGENDS OF HU TO DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT DO ONE DASH 2024.UM, I'M GONNA INTRODUCE AN FROM, UH, WSB.
UH, HER TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON PHASE ONE OF THE LEGENDS OF HUDDLE.
BASICALLY THE IDEA OF THIS PRESENTATION IS WE'RE FINALLY ABOUT READY TO GO TO CONSTRUCTION AND SO THEY'RE JUST GONNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT TO EXPECT DURING THIS PROCESS.
WSB, THANKS FOR HAVING US TONIGHT.
TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE, JUST LIKE MATT SAID, OF WHAT TO EXPECT TIMELINE AND DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO I SEE SOME NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME, UM, PLAYING FIELD HERE YOU HAVE AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCING DRAINAGE ISSUES.
UM, ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING IS DRAINAGE IS SURFACE FLOWING ACROSS THE YARDS.
UM, AND IT'S, UM, GOING INTO THESE CHANNELS BETWEEN HOMES, THE CHANNELS ARE UNDERSIZED, UM, AND THEY'RE VERY FLAT.
SO THE VELOCITIES ARE VERY SLOW.
WATER TENDS TO BACK UP AND IT FLOODS THE BACKYARDS.
AND SO OUR OBJECTIVE WAS TO DESIGN A SOLUTION TO ALLEVIATE THOSE PROBLEMS. SO I DO WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT STAFF REACHED OUT TO THE HOA AND GOT AN UNDERSTANDING FROM THEM ON WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE PROBLEMS ARE IN THEIR KEY CHANNELS THAT THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT.
UM, WE ALSO DID SOME MODELING AND FOUND, UM, SOME CHANNELS THAT WERE REALLY CAUSING THE ISSUE.
SO RED AND YELLOW ARE THE HOA PRIORITY CHANNELS AND THEN ORANGE ARE THE PRIORITY CHANNELS THAT WE DETERMINED THAT HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT, UM, FOR CHANGE FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M SO SORRY, I WENT THE WRONG WAY.
WHEN YOU SAY THE DRAINAGE CHANNELS, YOU MEAN THE DRAINAGE, THE DITCHES, CORRECT.
THAT WAS PROFESSIONAL TO SAY DITCH
UM, WE DID OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY.
UM, WE LOOKED AT ALL LEVELS OF STORM EVENTS, NOT JUST THE A HUNDRED YEAR.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO US TO TAKE THE EVERYDAY STORM AND MAKE SURE IT'S CONVEYED PROPERLY.
UM, SEPTEMBER WE CAME IN FRONT OF YOU AND WE PRESENTED OUR FINDINGS, RECOMMENDED PHASE ONE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE PROCEEDED TO DO IN DESIGN.
WE COMPLETED THAT DESIGN BACK IN JULY AND ACTUALLY, UM, JUST A FEW DAYS AGO, WE HANDED OVER SIGNED AND SEAL PLANS AND THAT IS GONNA BE ADVERTISED SOON IF IT'S NOT ALREADY DONE, UM, TODAY.
SO, UM, THE SEQUENCE OF CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT'S GONNA START FROM SOUTH AND GO NORTH.
SO THE CONTRACTOR, WHOEVER, UM, WINS THIS JOB WILL START IN THAT DETENTION POND.
THEY WILL WORK ON REGRADING THE POND AND PUTTING IN A, UM, RETAINING WALL ON THE NORTH SIDE.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT DETAIL IN A MINUTE.
AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA WORK ON THE OUTLET WEIR.
THAT'S THAT LIKE, UM, UH, SYMBOL ON THE BOTTOM.
BASICALLY WE'RE CREATING MORE CAPACITY IN THE POND.
THEN ONCE THAT WORK IS DONE, THEY'RE GONNA GO INTO CHANNEL D.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL CHANNEL D.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA EXCAVATE IT OUT AND UH, MAKE IT A RECTANGULAR CONCRETE CHANNEL.
AND, UM, AND THEN THAT'S IN LIKE THAT REDDISH COLOR NORTH OF RICHARDS.
AND THEN BETWEEN HERRE AND BLACKMAN COURT, THOSE CHANNELS ARE GONNA GET REGRADED, UM, MAKE THEM MORE TRIANGULAR AND THEY'RE EITHER GONNA HAVE A CONCRETE, UM, WHAT WE CALL EITHER A PILOT CHANNEL OR A TRICKLE CHANNEL JUST TO HELP LIKE ESTABLISH THE BOTTOM OF THAT.
AND THAT'S GONNA HELP THAT WATER GET OUTTA THERE FASTER.
SO THAT IS WHAT, UM, THEY ARE GONNA DO AN YES.
WHERE DID WE DO THE WORKOUT BEFORE? UH, YOU DID IT I THINK A LITTLE OFF SCREEN, UM, IN PHASE TWO.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT REDOING ANYTHING.
YOU GUYS DID THERE ACTUALLY, THERE'S A PICTURE OF IT RIGHT THERE.
I WAS LIKE A, IT TOOK LITERALLY A YEAR AND I WAS AMAZED.
IT'S, IT'S WORKING REALLY WELL.
I THINK THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CHANNELS THAT I SHOWED ARE GONNA BE SIMILAR EXCEPT OURS ARE GONNA BE VERTICAL.
AND THAT WAS THE, THE REASON WHY WE HAD TO GO VERTICAL IS TO GET THAT EXTRA CAPACITY, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT NARROWER.
SO AGAIN, THE GREEN KINDA SHOWS YOU IT'S AN EARTH AND CHANNEL.
THE CONTRACTOR'S GONNA GO IN AND EXCAVATE AND WE'RE GONNA DO A, UH, CONCRETE RECTANGULAR CHANNEL.
UM, YOU'RE GONNA GET LIKE 50 TO 75% INCREASED CHANNEL VOLUMES AND IT HELPS THAT SLOPE AND MAINTAIN THAT SLOPE.
SO WATER, AGAIN, GETS OUT OF THERE FASTER.
YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF SILTATION RIGHT NOW.
YOU'VE GOT SOME DEBRIS BACK THERE.
WE'RE HOPING WITH THESE CHANNELS, WATER CAN GET IN AND GET OUT THE, THE DETENTION POND.
SO WHEN I TOOK THIS PICTURE, I'M STANDING ON THAT LIKE OUTLET PART OF THE POND, LIKE RIGHT BEFORE IT DISCHARGES TO THE CREEK.
SO, UM, LOOKING TOWARD THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WILL NOW SEE A RETAINING WALL.
NOT GONNA LIE, IT'S PROBABLY NOT THE MOST BEAUTIFUL AND GLAMOROUS THING, BUT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IS, UM, WHEN THEY PUT THAT RETAINING WALL AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA REGRADE A LOT OF THIS, UH, POND, YOU'RE GONNA INCREASE THE CAPACITY.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HOLD MORE WATER BACK.
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FLOWS MORE THAN WHAT YOU ARE NOW INTO THE FEMA FLOODPLAIN.UM, IF WE HAVE NOT, IF WE DID NOT DO THAT, UM, WE WOULD BE ANOTHER YEAR AWAY FROM BIDDING THIS THING THROUGH THE WHOLE FEMA PROCESS.
UM, ONE TO ALSO NOTE FOR YOU ALL, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE IS A, THERE'S A DESIRE FOR HASTE TO GET THESE THINGS CONSTRUCTED.
IT'S, IT'S NORMAL FOR ENGINEERS TO DO THIS.
UM, WE ARE GONNA PROVIDE THAT TO THE CONTRACTOR AND IT HELPS, YOU KNOW, INCH BY INCH TO GET THOSE CROSS SECTIONS.
AND IT HELPS THEM CONSTRUCTED, I THINK IN A MORE CLEARER WAY.
SO WHAT TO EXPECT, UM, WE EXPECT A NOTICE TO GO OUT TO THE HOA TELLING THEM WHAT'S GOING ON AND WHAT'S THE TIMELINE.
FIRST, YOU WILL SEE THE CONTRACTOR GO OUT WITH TEMPORARY MEASURES, EROSION CONTROL A REMOVAL OF SOME HANDRAILS SO THEY CAN GET INTO THE CHANNELS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
REMEMBER, WE'RE GONNA START SOUTH IN THE POND AND THEN GO NORTH.
YOU MAY SEE SOME DELAYS AND WE WROTE IT INTO THE CONTRACTOR THAT THE CONTRACTOR SHALL, UM, PLAN FOR DELAYS BECAUSE IT, IT WILL RAIN IN HU TEXAS AND YOU ARE WORKING IN A DRAINAGE CHANNEL.
SO THEY NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT AND INCLUDE THAT IN THEIR TIMELINE.
AND THEN THE LAST THING YOU'LL SEE, YOU'LL SEE IS FROM THAT POST-CONSTRUCTION CLEANUPS AND REVEGETATION, SOME SIGNAGE, ET CETERA, DAY TO DAY.
UM, WHEN THE NOTICE GOES OUT TO THE HOA, WE'RE GONNA HELP WITH THAT LANGUAGE AND THE HOA NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CONSTRUCTION CREWS, THERE'S GONNA BE LARGE TRUCKS, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NOISE FROM THAT.
THERE ARE NO, UM, ROAD CLOSURES.
WE DON'T EXPECT ANY DETOURS, BUT THERE MIGHT BE SOME MOVEMENT JUST AROUND EQUIPMENT.
'CAUSE WE ARE WORKING IN SOME PRETTY TIGHT SPACES HERE.
UM, WE DID NOT NEED ANY RIGHT OF WAY OR EASEMENTS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS.
WE'RE GONNA STAY WITHIN ALL CITY PROPERTY.
UM, SO IT IS TIGHT SPACES, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY POSSIBLE.
UM, AND THEN BID PHASE WILL START THIS MONTH.
WE EXPECT TO BID IT IN NOVEMBER.
AND CSP, THAT'S COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSAL.
SO THAT'S NOT JUST BASED ON A LOW BID, IT'S BASED ON THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE CONTRACTOR TOO.
WE DON'T WANT A NEWBIE IN HERE, IN HERE IN DOING THIS AND TAKING A LONG TIME.
WE WANT SOMEONE TO EXPERIENCE THAT WE CAN TRUST.
UM, AND SO IT'S A PART OF THE EVALUATION.
UM, CONSTRUCTION COULD BEGIN IN DECEMBER, BUT I SUSPECT THAT'S WHEN THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE AWARDED TO THE CONTRACTOR AND THEY'LL BE BEGIN IN JANUARY.
AND WE THINK THIS IS GONNA TAKE SIX MONTHS.
THE ONLY REASON WHY IT'S SIX MONTHS IS BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE LINEAR.
UM, WE HAVE, WE CAN'T, WE GOTTA START FROM THE BOTTOM AND WORK UP AS FAR AS FUNDING.
I HAVE ALMOST $3.8 MILLION IN FUNDING AND I APOLOGIZE IF THIS IS A LITTLE OUTDATED.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ESTIMATING IT'S GONNA COME IN JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
THIS WAS REALLY HARD TO ESTIMATE.
UM, BUT WE'RE HOPEFULLY, UM, WE HAD THE CONTRACTOR WORKSHOP AND THERE WAS A LOT OF CONTRACTORS HERE.
SO HOPEFULLY WE GAIN SOME EARLY INTEREST AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA REACH OUT TO CONTRACTORS AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO BID ON THIS PROJECT.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME REALLY GOOD BID PRICES SO THAT YOU GUYS FEEL COMFORTABLE IN AWARDING THIS, UM, IN DECEMBER.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO YOU SAID THE TOTAL FUNDING IS 3.7 MILLION, BUT THE ESTIMATED COST IS 4.5? YES.
SO WE WOULD NEED TO FIND ANOTHER 1.2 MILLION SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE BUDGET.
DO WE HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE? I MEAN, I'M JUST WORRIED WE START A PROJECT THAT WE CAN'T FINISH OR LIKE WHAT'S THE PLAN? WELL, I THINK THE PLAN IS SEE WHAT THE BIDS COME IN.
AND THEN MAKE THE CALL FROM THERE.
YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE THE CALL FROM THERE.
I'D LIKE TO OFFER A SOLUTION IF THE BIDS DO COME IN HIGH, WE CAN ALSO AMEND THE CONTRACT AND REDUCE SOME OF THAT TRICKLE CHANNEL THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
AND WE JUST, UM, WE JUST DON'T GO AS FAR NORTH.
YOU'RE STILL GETTING A GREAT PROJECT.
YOU'RE STILL ALLEVIATING THE DRAINAGE.
YOU JUST DON'T GO ALL THE WAY IN THAT ONE CHANNEL AND WE CAN HELP WITH THAT EVALUATION.
OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANKS MA'AM.
[9.3. Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, & Belonging Commission Annual Update. (Corina Zepeda)]
NINE THREE, DIVERSITY, EQUITY, INCLUSION AND BELONGING COMMISSION ANNUAL UPDATE.THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.
UM, I'LL BE BRIEF AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE ANY SLIDES 'CAUSE THOSE WILL LOOK REALLY, REALLY GOOD FROM THE PREVIOUS PRESENTERS.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY THE GOOD THING IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT WE PUT INTO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL FOR REALLY CONSIDERING TAKING SOME GOOD QUESTIONS AROUND THAT AND HELPING US MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PLAN.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT, UM, DESPITE A LOT OF CHANGES ON OUR COMMISSION AND OUR VOLUNTEERS, INCLUDING SOME STAFF THAT AFFECTED OUR WORK, WE ARE STILL ON COURSE AND ON TRACK TO COMPLETE ALL OF THE ITEMS IN THE SHORT TERM FOR THIS YEAR THAT WE, UM, THAT ARE PRIORITY ITEMS. AND WE HAVE MOVED SOME THINGS INTO JANUARY THAT JUST MAKE MORE SENSE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE LIKE OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS DONE.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THE SHORT TERM
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DIB ACTION PLAN ITEMS. UM, ITEM 1.1 WAS TO ESTABLISH IS TO ESTABLISH AND TRAIN AT LEAST THREE FOCUSED WORKING GROUPS, CITIZEN WORKING GROUPS.THE THREE INITIAL ONES THAT WE'RE GONNA START WITH ARE VETERANS GROUPS, SMALL BUSINESSES AND SENIOR CITIZENS.
AND, UM, JUST FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW, THE REASON WE CHOSE THOSE SPECIFIC ONES IS BECAUSE WHEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE OF THE CITIZENS OF HUDDLE, THOSE THREE PRESENTED THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF INTERSECTIONALITY OF BEING ABLE TO REPRESENT THE GREATEST NUMBER OF CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AND HAVE A REAL VOICE IN, UM, LETTING US KNOW, DO THEY FEEL WELCOME? DO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY BELONG IN HURO? DO THEY HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCE AND REPRESENTATION? SO THAT'S WHAT THOSE THREE GROUPS REPRESENT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE TASKED WITH DOING SOME VERY, UM, DEEP WORK WITH TRAINING ON HOW TO REACH PEOPLE, HOW TO COMMUNICATE, HOW TO TRACK THAT DATA, HOW DO WE USE THAT DATA, AND HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING ACCESS TO PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY INPUT THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE SAYING.
UM, ON THAT ONE, WE ARE ON TRACK WITH THAT.
WE WERE, UM, ON TARGET TO GET THEM ESTABLISHED.
UM, WE ARE IN TARGET TO ANNOUNCE THEM THIS MONTH IN OCTOBER.
UM, WITH THE LOSS OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE IT IN THE WAY THAT WE WANT IT ON OUR, ON OUR WEBSITE.
UM, THAT'S GONNA BE PUT OFF A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET IT ONTO THE PUBLIC SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THESE ARE AVAILABLE AND THAT THEY CAN START, UM, EXPRESSING INTEREST ON THERE.
THERE'S A LINK ON THERE THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW 'EM TO SIGN UP FOR THE INFORMATION TO COME AND GET AN ORIENTATION SO THEY CAN KNOW WHAT THOSE GROUPS ARE GOING TO BE LIKE, WHAT THE WORK IS, HOW TO DO IT, AND ALSO SELECT SOME LEADERS AND LIAISONS TO WORK ON THOSE WITH US.
UM, PUBLIC PRESENTATION OF DIB PLAN AND STATUS CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE DID PUT THAT OFF BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A CHANGE IN OUR CHAIR.
UM, TWO, THREE, HAVE A WRITTEN AND COMMITTED DIB COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.
THAT ONE, WE DO NEED TO WAIT FOR A NEW COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.
UH, WE DID LEARN FROM CHRISTIE THAT SOMEBODY HAS BEEN HIRED, I BELIEVE, UM, BUT THEY ARE GETTING ONBOARDED AND ORIENTED
A LOT OF WORK WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER REALLY WELL.
UM, SO WE DECIDED TO ALLOW OUR NEW PERSON TO GET ORIENTED AND GET HER FINGER UNDERNEATH IN HER WORK.
UM, AND THEN WE WERE GOING TO COME UP WITH A COMMUNICATION PLAN AND WORKING WITH HER AND HER EXPERTISE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE COME UP WITH IT IS UP TO CODE, UP TO STANDARD AND THAT IT IS REACHING EVERYBODY IN A FAIR WAY.
UM, 4.1 INITIAL PLANNING MEETING, UH, WITH CHANEY GABO OF THE EDC TO DISCUSS THIS PRIORITY AREA.
THAT ONE WAS PUT ON HOLD FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE ON TRACK WITH MEETING WITH HER THIS MONTH IN OCTOBER.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DAYS KICKING AROUND.
WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING IN ALSO COMMISSIONER ANDY BELL, UM, TO HELP WITH THAT BECAUSE ANDY BELL IS GOING TO BE OUR LIAISON FOR THESE SMALL BUSINESSES, CITIZENS WORKING GROUPS.
SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FOR HIM TO HAVE HIS QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND HAVE SOME GUIDANCE AND, UM, COOPERATION WITH OUR EDC AND HOW WITH THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES HAVE EQUITABLE ACCESS TO RESOURCES WITHIN THE CITY OF HURO.
UH, 4.2, UM, INVITE CITIZENS GROUPS TO ATTEND THE ANNUAL O PRESENTATION, WHICH IS TODAY.
SO WE ALL WENT AND MADE INVITATIONS TO OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND OUR WORKING GROUPS TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE HERE OR THAT THEY CAN LISTEN IN SO THAT THIS WAS GOING ON.
OF COURSE, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS POSTED.
UM, REVIEW FIVE FIVE DASH THREE REVIEW, INTERNET RESOURCES FOR RESIDENTS PAGE FOR COMPLETENESS AND EASE OF USE.
THAT ONE BECAUSE OF, AGAIN, OUR COMMUNICATION, IT'S NOT AS URGENT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE EXPECTING OR REALLY WANNA PUSH EARLY IN 2026.
UM, THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, CHRISTIE BARNES AND MYSELF WORKING ON THOSE, ON THOSE PARTS OF MAKING SURE THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR WEBSITE IS UP TO DATE SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, WHAT IS IT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AND KNOW THIS KIND OF UPDATE.
THESE KINDS OF UPDATES ARE UPDATES SO PEOPLE CAN SEE HOW WE'RE PROGRESSING THAT THINGS THAT WE COMMITTED TO DO AND THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED THE BUDGET FOR.
UM, ITEM FIVE DASH FIVE REIGNITING, THE YOU BELONG IN HUDDLE CAMPAIGN.
AND THE THEME, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
OUR THEME AND OUR TAGLINE OF YOU BELONG IN HUDDLE, UM, HAS GOT A LOT OF GREAT RESPONSES.
AND SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO GET THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT ALL OF THIS WORK IS REALLY ABOUT, IS THAT EVERYBODY HAS A SENSE OF BELONGING HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON AGAIN WITH OUR LIAISON, CHRISTIE BARNES, MYSELF AND OUR NEW COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I JUST WANNA SAY, I, I WAS, UH, AND COUNCIL MEMBER REMORSE WAS THERE AND I THINK WE PROBABLY AGREE WITH ME.
WE, WE WERE REALLY, WE REALLY ENJOYED WHEN YOU HAD THE MEETING WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD AND THE COLLABORATION AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE TO COLLABORATE WITH EACH OTHER GOING FORWARD.
AND I THINK THAT'S HOPEFULLY SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS CAN BUILD ON THIS YEAR AS WELL.
UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
I DID GIVE 'EM A LITTLE SHOUT OUT, UH, DURING THE PROCLAMATIONS BECAUSE, UM, THEY, AND I CAN'T TAKE CREDIT, THEY BROUGHT TO US THAT THEY WANTED TO MEET WITH US AND THAT WAS GREAT BECAUSE IT REALLY JUST SHOWS MORE CROSS COLLABORATION AND IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO, UM, WHEN WE MAKE THOSE PROCLAMATIONS, WHEN WE SAY THIS IS THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
IT'S REALLY THE PUBLIC LIBRARIES EFFORTS BECAUSE THEY HAVE
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A LOT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROGRAMS. EVEN THOUGH SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM, THEY DO A LOT.AND THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO GIVE MORE PEOPLE THE ABILITY TO ENJOY AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN OUR CITY OFTEN IS DONE THROUGH OUR LIBRARY.
SO I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, UM, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THEM.
WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME JOINT WORK AROUND REACHING OUR SENIOR CITIZENS GROUPS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY DOING SOME GREAT PROGRAMMING FOR OUR SENIOR CITIZENS GROUPS.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE A BIG PART OF HOW, HOW WE ACTUALLY MAKE GOOD ON THAT, UH, COMMITMENT FROM A STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND IT'S ONLY THROUGH THAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT WITH MORE PEOPLE WE'RE ABLE TO GET MORE VOICES AT THE TABLE, NEW PERSPECTIVES, A FRESH PERSPECTIVE, OTHER LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY PUTTING THEIR INPUT ON HOW WE ACTUALLY GET IT DONE.
SO YES, THAT COLLABORATION WAS WONDERFUL IDEA AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS WITH MORE OF OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
[10.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-175 approving the Municipal Services Agreement for the proposed annexation of the Kirk tract, 77.2 acres, more or less, of land, located off FM1660S. (John Byrum)]
ITEM 10, ONE CONSIDERATION, POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 DASH 75 APPROVING THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF THE KIRK TRACK.77.2 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED OFF OF FM 1660 SOUTH.
WHILE HE'S COMING UP DOTY, WE'VE GOT THE THING WORKED OUT WITH, UH, JONAH AND ALL THAT.
UH, IN YOUR EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM ON THE KIRK TRACK, WE PROVIDED THE MATERIALS ON, UH, WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON WITH JONAH WITH THE MAP.
SO DIDN'T I SEE A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE THIS TO NOVEMBER OR HAS THAT CHANGED? SO THAT WOULD BE FOR THE ANNEXATION, UH, PUBLIC HEARING OH, I SEE.
AND THEN THIS ONE WOULD BE NO ACTION.
'CAUSE WE NEED THE FINALIZED AGREEMENT WITH ZONA, WITH JONAH TO COMPLETE THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, BUT WE STILL NEED TO DO THE PUBLIC.
SO TEN ONE IS JUST THE MUNICIPAL SERVICES AGREEMENT, WHICH HAS TO BE APPROVED BEFORE THE ANNEXATION.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S ON THERE FIRST.
BUT WE STILL NEED TO DO THE PUBLIC FOR IT ON TEN TWO.
IS THERE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS? NO, IT'S JUST RELATED TO ACTION.
MUST'VE BEEN FROM A PREVIOUS PROJECT.
SO TEN ONE, IF YOU THERE, THERE'S NO OBJECTION, YOU CAN SAY NO ACTION AND THEN MOVE ON TO TEN TWO.
SORRY, JOHN, YOU'RE UH, YOU GUYS WANT ME TO SPEAK HERE?
UM, I GUESS YOU JUST HERE BASICALLY FOR QUESTIONS, RIGHT? IF WE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I THOUGHT HE SAID IT'S GONNA BE ON THE EXEC.
SO ON THIS ONE THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TEN TWO.
AND THAT ONE, IF THERE'S NO OBJECTIONS, WE'LL MOVE THAT TO THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
SO I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO OPEN IT AND CONTINUE IT TO NOVEMBER 6TH.
[10.2. Continue a public hearing and possible action on Ordinance No. 0-2025-026 approving the Annexation of the Kirk tract, 77.2 acres, more or less, of land, located off FM1660S. (John Byrum)]
CONTINUE.CONTINUE A PUBLIC HEARING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O DASH 2025 DASH 0 2 6 APPROVING THE ANNEXATION OF THE KIRK TRACT.
77.2 ACRES, MORE OR LESS OF LAND LOCATED OFF OF FM 1660 SOUTH.
AND SINCE OUR PUBLIC HEARING HAS CONTINUED, I JUST NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE.
YOU JUST OPEN IT, SEE IF ANYBODY CAME TO SPEAK.
AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALREADY OPEN, 'CAUSE IT'S CONTINUED, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S CONTINUED TO THIS DAY.
I ALWAYS JUST SAY, JUST GO AHEAD AND, AND OPEN IT.
AND THEN IF NOBODY'S GONNA SPEAK, THEN JUST ASK FOR A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 6TH.
SO WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:20 PM IS THERE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEE, NO ONE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE THIS TO NOVEMBER 6TH.
UM, GORDON, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
[10.3. Continue a public hearing and consider possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-187 authorizing and creating the HWY 130 Mixed Use Public Improvement District within the City Of Hutto pursuant to Chapter 372, Texas Local Government Code. (Legal)]
CONTINUE A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON RELU RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 DASH 180 7 AUTHORIZING CREATING THE HIGHWAY ONE 30 MIXED USE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY OF HUDDLE.PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 3 72, LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE AND MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THIS HAS BEEN ON THE AGENDA BEFORE.
THIS PROPERTY'S IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
STAFF DISCOVERED THAT THERE'S A COUNTY ROAD THAT WE HAD TO GIVE THE 61 DAY NOTICE TO BEFORE WE COULD ANNEX IT.
YOUR PID POLICY REQUIRES THE PROPERTY TO BE IN THE CITY LIMITS BEFORE YOU CREATE THE PI.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CREATION OF THE PI TWO NOVEMBER 6TH.
BUT, AND THIS IS THE SAME, UH,
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ITEM THAT YOU WOULD JUST OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ASK FOR MOTION TO ADJOURN TO NOVEMBER 6TH.SO WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:22 PM IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN THIS UNTIL NOVEMBER 6TH.
DISCUSSION TO MOTION? HEARING NONE.
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER KING AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
[10.4. Conduct a public hearing and consider possible action on Ordinance No. 0-2025-043 amending Chapter 18, Article 18.02, Division 2, of the Code of Ordinances, AfterSchool Recreation Program Standards of Care; adopting standards of care for the City's recreation programs for elementary-age children; and providing for: Findings of Fact, Enactment, Repealer, Severability, Effective Date, and Proper Notice & Meeting (Jeff White)]
TEN FOUR.CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER POSSIBLE ACTION ON ORDINANCE NUMBER O DASH 2025 DASH 0 4 3 AMENDING CHAPTER 18, ARTICLE 18.02, DIVISION TWO OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AFTER SCHOOL RECREATION PROGRAM, STANDARDS OF CARE, ADOPTING STANDARDS OF CARE FOR THE CITY'S RECREATION PROGRAMS FOR ELEMENTARY AGED CHILDREN AND PROVIDING FOR FINDINGS OF FACT ENACTMENT, REPEAL SEVERABILITY EFFECTIVE DATE AND PROPER NOTICE AND MEETING.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL, YOU WANNA DO THE DO A PRESENTATION OR PUBLIC HEARING FIRST? UH, DO THE PRESENTATION FIRST.
THE, A FULL REPORT IS IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, SO WE OFFERED THREE DIFFERENT CAMPS IN 2024.
WE HAD A WINTER BREAK CAMP, UH, WITH 45 CAMPERS, SPRING BREAK CAMP WITH 63 CAMPERS AND SUMMER CAMP HAD 1,223 CAMPERS.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE TRAININGS THAT OUR STAFF GOES THROUGH, UH, THROUGH CHILD ABUSE, RECOGNITION, SWIMMING AND SAFETY, DROWNING, BUS SAFETY, PLAYGROUND SAFETY, UH, SUPPORTING INDIVIDUALS WITH AUTISM BULLY PREVENTION, AND OF COURSE CPR FIRST AID AND A ED.
SO WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? UH, THE TEXAS HUMAN RESOURCE CODE ALLOWS MUNICIPALITIES TO, UH, OPT OUT OF THEIR LICENSINGS IF WE ADOPT OUR OWN ANNUALLY.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UH, ADOPTING THIS ORDINANCE ENSURES THAT WE CONTINUE COMPLIANCE, WHAT THE STANDARDS COVERED, UM, THESE ARE KIND OF HIGHLIGHTS.
IT COVERS OUR STAFF TO PARTICIPANTS RATIOS, OUR MINERAL STAFFING, QUALIFICATIONS, HEALTH SAFETY AND FACILITY GUIDELINES, PROCEDURES FOR MONITORING ENFORCEMENT.
AND WE DO HAVE TO ADVERTISE THAT WE ARE NOT A LICENSED STATE LICENSED CHILDCARE.
THERE'S ONLY TWO MINOR CHANGES FOR 2025 FROM THE 2024 VERSION, OR I GUESS 2026 FOR 2025.
UM, AND THAT WAS, WE ADDED, UM, A SECTION IN THERE BASED ON AN ORGANIZATION SECTION BASED ON THE BACKGROUND CHECKS, UH, AS DETERMINED BY THE ADMINISTRATOR, WHICH IS MYSELF.
I OVERSEE THIS PROGRAM AND WE ADDED AGE AS A REQUIREMENT IN THERE AS WELL IN ONE OF THE OUTLINES FOR ENROLLMENT REQUIREMENTS.
UH, PARKS BOARD DID REVIEW AND APPROVED AT THEIR SEPTEMBER 10TH MEETING.
WE ARE REQUESTING THAT COUNSEL, UH, ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? ALRIGHT.
WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:25 PM IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO COME UP AND SPEAK REGARDING OUR AFTERSCHOOL RECREATION PROGRAM STANDARDS OF CARE? LET'S SEE.
NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8:25 PM AND OPEN THIS ITEM UP FOR A MOTION.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER OH 2025 DASH 0 4 3 AS PRESENTED.
SECOND SET MOTION BY MAYOR PROTIME THORNTON.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MAYOR THOMPSON.
COUNCILOR MORRIS, I, NO, IT WAS SECONDED.
OH, YOU, YOU WERE GONNA SECOND? YEAH.
I GOT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
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AGENDA ITEMS, ITEMS 11, ONE THROUGH 1110.UNLESS THERE'S ANY ITEMS ANYONE WISHES TO PULL, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
I'D LIKE TO PULL 11 FIVE AND 11 SIX PLEASE.
I'D LIKE TO PULL 11 NINE PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS 11.
UH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER GORDON, SECONDED BY CUSTOMER MORRIS.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU
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VERY MUCH, UM, TO ALBERTA AND HER TEAM ON THE FISCAL AND BUDGETARY POLICY.UM, GOT IT DOWN TO JUST TWO, UM, OUTLIERS AND THOSE WERE FAIRLY MINOR ONES.
I THINK YOU'VE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, SO THANK YOU.
PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
[11.5. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-297 accepting the infrastructure improvements for the subdivision known as Fritz Phase 1. (Matt Rector)]
11 FIVE, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 DASH 2 97, ACCEPTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS FRITZ PHASE ONE.YEAH, I DIDN'T REALLY, UH, HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, THIS KIND OF TIES INTO 11 SIX ALSO, BUT, UM, THE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT HOPEFULLY I'M WRONG, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE THE DOCUMENTS PROVIDED IN THE PACKET THAT THE, ALL THE, UM, ACCEPTANCE PHOTOS WERE ALL THE SAME.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF WE WERE LACKING ACCEPTANCE PHOTOS FOR EITHER FRITZ OR GRINDER OR IF THEY'RE, WHAT IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING OR IF I, OR IF I SAW IT WRONG.
SO I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION IN THE, IN THE PACKET AND THAT WE'RE NOT ACCEPTING SOMETHING WITHOUT PHOTOS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO, WHO CAN, MATT'S COMING UP.
LOOKS LIKE, I'M SURE HE IS JUST A CLERICAL THING, BUT, OR MAYBE I'M WRONG.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD.
MATT RECTOR, YOUR CITY ENGINEER? UM, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE PACKET.
I ASSUME THAT YOU MAY, I MEAN, WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS, I ASSUME THAT YOU MAY BE RIGHT THAT WE UPLOADED THE WRONG PHOTOS WITH BOTH PACKETS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE CORRECT ACCEPTANCE PHOTOS FOR BOTH PROJECTS BEFORE IF WE, YOU KNOW, ACCEPT THE IMPROVEMENTS.
YES, BECAUSE, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WE ACTUALLY WERE GONNA PUT THIS ON A PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM AND WE DIDN'T UNTIL WE HAD ALL THE ACTUAL DOCUMENTATION.
SO IT'S PROBABLY JUST AN ADMINISTRATIVE AREA ON MY TEAM.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'VE GOT IT AND WE'RE GOOD.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TRUST YOU AND WE WILL, WE'RE GOOD.
IS THAT, THAT COVERS 11 SIX, I DUNNO IF YOU NEED TO READ 11 SIX ALSO I CAN READ 11 SIX AS
[11.6. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-298 accepting the infrastructure improvements for the subdivision known as Greinert Phase 1. (Matt Rector)]
CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 DASH 2 9 8, ACCEPTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS GRINDER PHASE ONE.SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE WALKTHROUGH PHOTOS, THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
SO HERE'S A SCREENSHOT OF 11 SIX AND THAT'S 11 FIVE.
IS THAT ON THE, IN THE PACKET? UHHUH
WERE YOU LOOKING? SO MAY, MAYBE I WAS LOOKING WRONG.
YEAH, IT JUST LOOKED LIKE ALL THE PHOTOS ARE THE SAME.
THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF SIMILARITY.
YEAH, THERE'S, THEY'RE VERY SIMILAR, BUT LIKE HERE, THIS ONE'S GOT LIKE THE PHOTOGRAPHER'S SHADOW ON IT AND THERE'S NOT ONE HERE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT 'EM.
I I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 11 FIVE AND 11 SIX.
UH, SECOND QUESTION BY COUNCILMAN PORT FIELD.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
[11.9. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-299 to approve the Artificial Intelligence (Al) Use Policy. (David Amsler)]
11 NINE.UH, THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS ONE UP IS I JUST WANTED TO GET A LITTLE BIT OH, I'M SORRY,
I GIVE DAVID TIME TO GET UP HERE.
UH, CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 DASH 2 99 TO APPROVE THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENT AI USE POLICY.
UM, SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I HAD IS, I KNOW THAT THERE, UH, THIS, UM, AGENDA ITEM SAID THAT THERE, THERE'S NO FINANCIAL IMPACT.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I NOTED AS I WAS READING THROUGH IT IS THAT THE POLICY ITSELF DOESN'T REQUIRE NEW BUDGET MONEY, BUT IT DEMANDS ONGOING ATTENTION FROM, UM, IT, HR AND MANAGEMENT.
UH, MOST SIGNIFICANT OPERATION BURDEN COMES FROM MONITORING, AUDITING, TRAINING AND RISK ASSESSMENT ACTIVITIES.
AND IF THE WORKLOAD GROWS OR AI, UH, USE EXPANDS, THE CITY MAY EVENTUALLY NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF TOOL SOFTWARE AND SO FORTH.
BUT, UM, I GUESS WHERE WHAT I AM LOOKING AT IS THE MONITORING, AUDITING, TRAINING, RISK ASSESSMENT AND ALL THAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN COVERED
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WITHIN THE 26TH BUDGET.DAVID AMSLER, DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC OPERATIONS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE, WE BELIEVE THAT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGETARY SYSTEM, THAT WHAT THIS POLICY DOES IS THIS IS ESSENTIALLY JUST GUARDRAILS AND WE WILL BE CREATING SOPS AND WE HAVE A, UH, SOFTWARE CALLED, I BELIEVE IT'S NO BEFORE THAT WILL CONDUCT THE TRAINING, UH, FOR AI THAT'S BEING MANDATED BY THE STATE.
AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION WAS, UM, REGARDING AI MM-HMM
UM, DURING A WORKSHOP, WHAT I HEARD, UH, WAS AI WOULD CROSSCHECK AI TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO ERRORS OR ANYTHING OUTTA WHACK, UM, TO ME, AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT ON THIS, BUT TO ME THAT'S KINDA LIKE THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.
SO IS THERE LIKE A HUMAN ELEMENT TO CROSS CHECKING? YES.
SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE, THE DARWIN SYSTEM, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN ESSENTIALLY AN ADDED FIREWALL, UH, FOR, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM, THAT WOULD'VE PREVENTED, UM, IF SOMEBODY PUT IN PII, UH, PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION INTO, UH, AN AI SYSTEM.
THE, THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL DID NOT SEEM TO FAVOR THAT DURING THE WORK SESSION.
SO THIS IS JUST THE FIRST STEP, WHICH IS SETTING THE GUARDRAILS AND EXPLORING SOPS IN ORDER TO, UH, LIMIT OUR RISK AS AN ORGANIZATION WHEN USING AI.
WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION I MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, RESOLUTION R DASH 2025 DASH 2 99 IS PRESENTED.
SECOND MOTION BY CUSTOMER GORDON.
SECOND BY MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
[12.1. Consideration and possible action on approval of Ordinance No. 0-2025-044 Authorizing Blanket Purchase Orders for Routine Consumable Goods and Services for Fiscal Year 2025-2026. (Alberta Barrett)]
WE HAVE ITEM 12, ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION ON APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE NUMBER O DASH 2025 DASH 0 4 4 AUTHORIZING BLANKET PURCHASE ORDERS FOR ROUTINE CONSUMABLE GOODS AND SERVICES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 TO 2026.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, ALBERTA BARRETT, FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE RECORD.
SO THIS IS OUR ANNUAL, UM, UPDATE AND APPROVAL FOR OUR BLANKET PURCHASE ORDERS.
AND BASICALLY WHAT THOSE ARE, ARE MONTHLY REOCCURRING EXPENSES SUCH AS, UM, YOUR ELECTRIC BILLS, CHEMICALS, THINGS THAT WE NEED FOR OPERATION THAT DON'T NECESSARILY COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
SO WE GET APPROVAL UPFRONT AND THEN AS THOSE BILLS COME IN EVERY MONTH, WE PAY 'EM.
UM, SO WHAT WE'VE, UM, DONE THIS YEAR IS KIND OF COMBINED SOME AND, AND CONDENSED THEM TO BE A LITTLE MORE LIKE LAST YEAR WE HAD SOME, SOME DUPLICATE ITEMS. SO, UH, AGAIN, SOME OF THE BIG ONES LEGALS ABOUT 840,000.
UM, WE HAVE SOME, UH, LET'S SEE, LIKE WATER CONTRACTS WITH MANVILLE, BRAZO, RIVER AUTHORITY, WATER RESERVATIONS, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE IN THE MILLIONS.
UM, SOLID WASTE REMOVAL SERVICE IS ANOTHER LARGE ONE, UH, THAT COMES OUT OF THE SOLID WASTE FUND.
UM, SOFTWARE LICENSING AND MAINTENANCE AND UTILITIES, MAINLY ELECTRIC.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR BIG ONES, BUT THEY'RE ALL LISTED IN EXHIBIT A.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER ZERO OH DASH 2025 DASH 44 BY COUNCILOR THOMPSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALBERTA IS, WHAT WILL THE, LIKE THE INTERNAL CONTROLS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS STILL TRANSPARENT AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE SPENDING IT ON AND WHEN IT COMES OUT, IS THAT GONNA BE PROVIDED IN THE MONTHLY REPORT THAT WE GET FROM COUNSEL? THE, UH, THE EXPENDITURES WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE MONTHLY REPORT.
UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO LISTED ON THE BLANKET PO SECTION IN THE MONTHLY FINANCIAL REPORT WHERE THEY'LL BE LISTED THERE AS WELL.
AND THEN INTERNALLY WE HAVE OUR OWN PROCESS AS FAR AS PROCESSING PAYMENT REQUEST RIGHT.
AND GOING THROUGH THEIR APPROVAL CHANNELS THAT WAY IS RIGHT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD SEE IT WHENEVER YES, SIR.
AND THESE ITEMS WERE ALL IN THE BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED IN SEPTEMBER.
SO THESE ARE ALL BUDGETED ITEMS THAT, THAT WE, THAT WE ALL SAID THAT IS CORRECT.
THOSE OF US THAT VOTED FOR THE BUDGET YES.
APPROVED THAT WE SAID THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH.
THEY'RE ALREADY IN, IT'S JUST RIGHT THAT WE HAVE LISTED THERE ARE THE AMOUNTS THAT WE HAD BUDGETED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR
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ITEMS. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE'RE DOING THIS BLANKET PURCHASE ORDER AND WE GET TO, YOU KNOW, Q3 AND WE'VE ALREADY BLOWN THROUGH THIS BUDGET AND IT'S GOING HIGHER, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THAT POINT? IT NEEDS TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR A, AN AMENDMENT TO BRING IT WITHIN BUDGET.SO YOU WOULDN'T JUST PROCEED AND GO OVER? NO, I CANNOT.
YOU WOULD COME BACK? THAT'S WHERE THE INTERNAL PROCESS COMES TO WHERE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROCESS IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO BUDGET LEFT TO PAY IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[13.1. Consideration and possible action on Resolution No. R-2025-300 authorizing the City Manager to execute the Wastewater Infrastructure Reimbursement Agreement by and between the City of Hutto and Maple Multi-Family Development, LLC to facilitate the reimbursement of certain allowable costs for wastewater infrastructure. (Sara Cervantes)]
13.ONE CONSIDERATION OF POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 DASH 300, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT BY IN BETWEEN THE CITY OF HU AND MAPLE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, LLC TO FACILITATE THE REIMBURSEMENT OF CERTAIN ALLOWABLE COSTS FOR WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
MAYOR COUNCIL SARAH CERVANTES, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT THIS ITEM IS PRESENTING TO YOU, THE MUL MAPLE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT IS LOCATED, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 79.
YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THIS ONE BEFORE.
UM, THEY DID HAVE A PUMP AND HALL AGREEMENT THAT CAME THROUGH AND WAS, UH, APPROVED BY ALL BECAUSE THEY'RE WAITING ON INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE BUILT BY A DEVELOPER THAT'S FURTHER SOUTH THAN THEM.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS PROJECT IS AN SCR WAS RAN AND OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENTS TOLD THEM THAT THEY COULD NOT CONNECT TO OUR SYSTEMS UNTIL A CERTAIN DATE, UH, BASED ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT WERE ONGOING.
UH, THEY WORKED COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR ENGINEERING TEAM AND TRIED TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THEM TO CONNECT SOONER.
UH, AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WAS WORKED OUT, AND I TRIED MY BEST TO KIND OF SPELL THAT OUT IN THE, UM, THE AIR DOCUMENTATION THERE, UH, THIS DEVELOPER IS HELPING TO COMPLETE A GRAVITY LINE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 79 THAT WILL RESULT IN THE DECOMMISSIONING OF THE, OH, THANK YOU, LAURA.
UM, IT WILL DECOMMISSION THE CREEKSIDE ESTATE LIFT STATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ON OUR LIST TO DO AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
UM, AND THE WAY THAT WE ARE PAYING FOR THIS, UM, IS VIA IMPACT CREDITS.
BUT IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE, I THINK IT'S THE EXHIBIT C OF THE AGREEMENT ITSELF, AND I SPELT IT OUT IN THE AIR DOCUMENTATION, UM, THERE IS A, WE CALCULATED THEIR TOTAL AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEES, UH, AND THEN THE ESTIMATED TOTAL COST FOR THEM TO COMPLETE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S PROPOSED.
AND THEY STILL ARE GONNA OWE US IMPACT FEES AFTER THAT.
UM, SO REGARDLESS, THERE'S STILL A DELTA THERE THAT THEY WILL BE PAYING TO US FOR THEIR IMPACT FEES.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, I'M AVAILABLE TO TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, ANYTHING A LITTLE DEEPER LOGISTICALLY, UH, ON THE PIPING AND FREEING UP CAPACITIES FROM ONE PLAN TO THE OTHER.
I'M HAPPY TO PULL IN CITY ENGINEER RECTOR TO HELP AS WELL.
QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL OR ACTIONS? SARAH? HOW DOES THIS REIMBURSEMENT ALIGN WITH THE CITY POLICY ON DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION IN, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS? GOTCHA.
SO TYPICALLY, UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UH, TYPICALLY WHEN WE SEE THESE, UH, REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENTS, IT'S FOR OVERSIZING.
UH, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE TECHNICALLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING SOUTH OF 79 ISN'T PIPING THAT DIRECTLY SERVES THEIR PROJECT.
UH, BUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS BY TAKING THIS LIFT STATION OFFLINE, UM, AND BUILDING THIS GRAVITY LINE HERE, IT'S FREEING UP CAPACITY IN ONE PLANT THAT WILL THEN ALLOW CAPACITY IN THE PLANT THAT WILL CONNECT TO THEM TO SERVE THEM SOONER.
UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE UNORTHODOX, BUT IT'S A WAY FOR US TO GET SOMETHING ELSE OFF OUR LIST, UM, WITHOUT HAVING TO BUDGET FOR IT.
I WANT, I DON'T WANNA SAY WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING AN IMPACT FEE CREDIT.
UM, BUT IT, SO IT WAS A LITTLE BIT UNORTHODOX, BUT, UM, WE'RE CONSISTENTLY TRYING TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO, TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND GET SOMETHING FOR THE CITY OUT OF IT, UM, AS WE WORK ALONG.
AND, UM, CITY ENGINEER RECTOR WAS THE, THE HEAD BRAIN CHILD BEHIND THIS.
SO, UH, HE GETS ALL THE KUDOS.
I JUST TYPE THE WORDS IN AND PRESENT THE DOCUMENT.
SO IS THAT GONNA BE KIND OF THE NORM MOVING FORWARD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO MANEUVER ON MM-HMM
SO, UM, THE, THE NORM AS LONG AS I HAVE BEEN HERE, IS TRYING TO WORK COLLABORATIVE COLLABORATIVELY WITH DEVELOPERS TO FIND WAYS TO DO MORE FOR THE CITY DEPENDING ON WHAT THAT DEVELOPER NEEDS.
UM, ANYTIME A DEVELOPER COMES TO ME AND SAYS, WE NEED XI SAY, CAN YOU GIVE US Y UH, AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO CONSISTENTLY EVALUATE THE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ONGOING, AND THAT CAN BE FROM OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO BUILDING OUT FINAL TRAIL TYPE STUFF.
UM, THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING ON THE TABLE IF A DEVELOPER IS TRYING TO LEVERAGE, WE TRY TO BRING SOMETHING ELSE TO THE TABLE, UM, TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
AND THERE WILL BE PARAMETERS TO WHAT WE NEGOTIATE THERE.
UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY PARAMETERS.
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EVERYTHING WE DO, OH, GO AHEAD.YEAH, WELL, JUST MAKING SURE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOME QUASI PROJECT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
THEY COULD END UP LEAVING IF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FELL THROUGH ON THEIR END FOR SURE.
SO IF, IF THE, THE UNDERLYING CONCERN I'M HEARING IS WORRYING THAT THEY WILL KIND OF ABANDON THIS PROJECT, RIGHT.
AND THEN NOT, SO FOR THEM, THEIR PRIMARY INCENTIVE IS IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE THIS PROJECT, THEN THE CAPACITY, UH, IN THE OTHER PLANT IS NOT GONNA OPEN UP TO SERVE THEIR PROJECT WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT TIMEFRAME.
UM, BUT OF COURSE WHEN WE ENTER INTO ANY OF THESE AGREEMENTS, ANYTHING THAT'S CONSTRUCTION RELATED, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, CONTRACTUAL REMEDIES IN PLACE.
UH, THEY COULDN'T JUST BAIL OUT AND, AND, AND LEAVE US, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
UM, VERY, VERY, VERY SIMILAR SITUATION TO, UM, THE, THE LENNAR 42 INCH INTERCEPTOR, THAT SAME SORT OF KIND OF RELATIONSHIP, UH, AND WHAT'S GOING ON.
OTHER DISCUSSION OR ACTION FOR THIS ITEM? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE R 2025 DASH 300 IS PRESENTED.
SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILOR GORDON.
SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL JUST SAY, GREAT JOB.
I KNOW IT'S EASIER TO HAVE THE IDEA, UM, THAT SOMEONE'S ACTUALLY GOTTA GET IT ON PAPER TO A POINT WHERE SOMEONE WILL APPROVE IT, BUT I DO THINK THIS IS A, A, A PART WHERE DEVELOPMENT'S PAYING FOR DEVELOPMENT IN A WAY BECAUSE HAD THE DEVELOPER NOT BEEN THERE AT ALL TO PAY THE IMPACT FEES, WE WOULDN'T NEED THE UPGRADE.
BUT BECAUSE WE'RE THERE MM-HMM
PAYING THE FEES, WE DIDN'T BORROW DEBT.
UM, THIS DID NOT CONTRIBUTE TO AN INCREASE IN WATER RATES OR WASTE WATER RATES.
SO MORE OF THESE, UM, THAT WE CAN DO, I THINK IS BETTER FOR FOR SURE EVERYONE, AND I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE SERVING AS TRANSLATOR FOR THE IDEAS THAT ARE BOPPING AROUND IN ST.
UH, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER GORDON.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
SEVEN ZERO SAYS NO OBJECTION TO 14.
ONE, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT I FORGOT TO GET WITH THE CITY MANAGER TO HAVE THAT ONE MOVED.
HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, WE'LL GO TO ITEM
[14.2. Presentation and discussion regarding updates for the Limmer Loop expansion projects between Innovation and FM 1660. (T47-2025 & T48-2025). (Matt Rector)]
14 TWO.PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING UPDATES FOR THE LIMMER LOOP EXPANSION PROJECTS BETWEEN INNOVATION AND FM 1660 T 47 DASH 2 25, AND T 48 DASH 2 0 2 5.
WE ARE THE CONSULTING ENGINEER FOR, UH, THIS PORTION OF LIMMER LOOP.
SO, UH, TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, REVIEWING THAT FROM LIMMER LOOP FROM INTER INNOVATION BOULEVARD TO, UH, 1660.
I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE, UM, THE WESTERN PORTION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY, UH, WE'LL HAVE ANANG TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE EASTERN PORTION.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UH, HERE.
UH, THIS IS LIMMER LOOP, UH, FROM, UH, INNOVATION, UH, TO EDGE SCHMIDT, UH, JMT WAS SCOPED TO DEVELOP THE SCHEMATIC, UH, FOR THIS, UH, A MAJOR, UH, ARTERIAL, UH, SIX LANES.
UM, THE, UH, THE GOAL OF THE SCHEMATIC.
AND SO WE'RE IN THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STAGE, UH, IS TO SET THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY, LINE, UM, FOR ACQUISITION AND, UH, DETERMINE WHERE UTILITY SHOULD BE, UH, RELOCATED.
OUR GOAL FOR TODAY IS TO UPDATE, UH, YOU ALL WITH WE'RE AT ON THE SCHEMATIC, UH, DESIGN.
UH, WE'VE ALSO TAKEN THIS TO THE PUBLIC AND, UH, REVIEWED SOME OF THOSE PUBLIC, UH, INPUT, UH, AND PRESENT SOME, UM, ALTERNATIVE SECTIONS, UH, CONSIDERING SOME OF THE, UH, CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED HERE.
SO, ZOOMING OUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT, UH, THIS IS A SNIPPET FROM THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN UPDATE FROM 2024.
UH, THERE WAS A, UM, ONE OF THE KEY CHANGES THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED ON HERE, IT'S ACTUALLY LISTED FIRST IS LIR LOOP WAS UPGRADED FROM A MINOR TO A MAJOR, UH, ARTERIAL.
THAT BOTTOM SECTION THERE THAT HAS THAT, UH, MAJOR ARTERIAL, UH, LISTING, UH, THAT SHOWS WHAT A ARTERIAL LOOKS LIKE.
MOST NOTABLY, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIX LANE SECTION, UH, ALSO WITH SOME BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, UH, TO EITHER SIDE OF IT, UH, WITH A BIT OF BUMPER SPACE BETWEEN THOSE VEHICLES, UH, AND YOUR CYCLISTS AND, UH, AND PEDESTRIANS.
UH, THE SHARED USE PATH IS, UH, IS OR YOUR TRAILS MASTER PLAN SHOWS, UH, SHARED USE PATH IN THE AREA OF, UH, OF THIS CORRIDOR HERE.
UM, THE EXISTING ROADWAY IS A TWO-LANE SECTION WITH, UH, NARROW SHOULDERS.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT A HUNDRED OR FEET OF EXISTING, UH, RIGHT OF WAY HERE.
SO PICTURED HERE, UH, IS THAT SECTION IN THE
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AREA OF ST.PATRICK CATHOLIC CHURCH IN AT A REDFISH LANE, WHICH CONNECTS TO, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, LOOKING AT OUR PROJECT TIMELINE.
SO JUST TO REVIEW, UH, WHERE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
UH, WE STARTED THIS WORK, UH, IN DECEMBER OF 2024.
UH, THE DRAFT SCHEMATIC WAS SUBMITTED, UH, TO THE CITY BACK IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.
THAT SCHEMATIC, UH, WAS TAKEN TO THE PUBLIC IN JULY.
AND OVER THE COURSE OF THAT MONTH, WE RECEIVED PUBLIC INPUT AND SOME COMMENTS.
UH, AND THEN WE'RE HERE, UH, TODAY TO SUMMARIZE OUR, OUR PROGRESS AND, AND GET SOME FEEDBACK ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING.
UH, SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON SCREEN HERE, THIS IS WHAT WAS, UH, CONVEYED TO, UH, TO THE PUBLIC, UH, STARTING AT CARMEL CREEK AND THEN, UH, GOING OVER TO, TO THE EAST.
UH, SO IT IS A SIX LANE SECTION THAT'S PROPOSED HERE.
THERE ARE TURN LANES, UH, AT, UH, AT INNOVATION BOULEVARD.
INNOVATION BOULEVARD IS A COLLECTOR STREET THAT, UH, THAT INTERCEPTS, UH, LEER LOOP.
UH, AND THEN MOVING PAST THAT, UM, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CONSTRAINTS OUT HERE.
UH, WE CAN PROPOSE THOSE, THAT SIX LANE SECTION, UH, WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF IMPACTS.
IT STARTS TO CHANGE A WHOLE LOT ONCE WE GET PAST, UH, REDFISH, UH, LANE.
SO WE PUT ON HERE, WE'VE LABELED THE, UH, THE MAJOR CONSTRAINTS.
SO AGAIN, KIND OF GOING, UH, LEFT TO RIGHT, THERE'S THE EXISTING CHURCH, UH, THAT'S THERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UH, AND THEN CONTINUING ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE, UH, THERE'S THAT MECHANICAL BUILDING THAT HAS A BIG WATER STORAGE TANK.
UH, AND THEN AT THE CORNER OF EDGE SCHMIDT, THAT SOUTHERN CORNER IS AN EXISTING EXXON ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UM, THERE'S A C STORES, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S GAS STATION THAT IS RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF EDGE PIT.
UH, THEY ALSO HAVE, UH, A DETENTION POND, UH, TO THE, UH, TO THE WEST OF, OF THAT, UH, FOR THAT FACILITY.
UM, THEY'RE TURNING DIRT ON THAT NOW.
I THINK THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED THERE, UH, BACK IN, UH, BACK IN AUGUST.
SO IF DAVE'S STARTED TURNING DIRT AND YOU HAVE A PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY LINE THAT GOES TO THEIR CANOPY, UH, YES.
SO WE'RE ABOUT TO GET INTO SOME OF THE REVISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE TO ADDRESS THAT PARTICULAR CONSTRAINT.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE, YOU KNOW, FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT WAS ABOUT THE, THE C STORES PEOPLE WANTED SOME ENHANCED, UM, ACCESS TO IT.
SO LET ME BACK OUT A LITTLE BIT.
WHAT I'M SHOWING ON TOP IS THAT SAME SNIPPET THAT YOU WERE JUST LOOKING AT, THAT WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO, UH, TO THE PUBLIC.
ON THE BOTTOM SIDE THERE IS SOME OF THE REVISIONS THAT, UH, WE'VE DEVELOPED TO ADDRESS THESE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SO IT'S KIND OF THE, YOUR TOP SIDE IS THE BEFORE AND THE BOTTOM SIDE IS THE, IS THE AFTER.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, UH, TALKED ABOUT C-STORE THERE.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, DESIRES FROM THE PUBLIC WAS TO ADD THIS, UH, LEFT TURN INTO C STORES.
UH, SO BEFORE WE HAD A CONTINUOUS RAISE MEDIAN WHERE YOU COULDN'T MAKE THAT LEFT.
UH, WE'RE SHOWING HERE THAT WE CAN FIT A LEFT TURN.
SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ONE UPDATE.
UM, THE, THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING THE, UH, THE CHURCH, UH, BOTH TO, OR THE PRIMARY.
UM, THE PRIMARY COMMENT WAS TO HAVE THAT ALIGNED, UH, WITH, UH, WITH REDFISH.
UH, THERE WERE SOME CALLS FOR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT, UM, INTERSECTION.
UM, AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF TRAFFIC DURING, UH, SUNDAY SERVICE.
UM, AND ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS, AND I SHOULD SAY THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS WERE GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
I'M GIVING SOME OF THE FEEDBACK FOR, UM, FROM PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THAT.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS WAS ABOUT THE NUMBER OF LANES THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UH, SOME HAD EXPRESSED THAT SIX LANES, THEY FELT LIKE THAT WAS, UH, THAT WAS TOO MUCH.
UM, SO THE, THE BIG, BIG REVISION THAT I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, TALKED ABOUT HERE JUST YET IS THAT THIS IS SHOWING A FOUR LANE SECTION INSTEAD OF A SIX LANE SECTION TO, UH, GET OUT OF SOME OF THOSE IMPACTS, UH, TO BOTH THE C STORES THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, AND THE, UH, AND EVERYTHING ON THE BOTTOM SIDE THERE.
THE, THE CHURCH, THE WATER STORAGE TANK, AND THE EXXON GAS STATION.
SO, UH, PART OF THE PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT WAS COORDINATING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS.
UM, SO THE C-STORES WAS, WAS, IS A MAJOR, UH, STAKEHOLDER.
SO THEY HAD ASKED, UH, FOR A NARROWER, UH, SECTION.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE BOTTOM, UH, SIDE.
THERE WAS A, SOME GOOD COLLABORATION THERE WHERE THEY REVISED SOME OF THEIR SITE,
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UH, TO BE OUT OF CONFLICT WITH OUR, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED, UM, RIGHT AWAY, LIKE THEIR, THEIR INTERNAL DRIVEWAY, THEY ENDED UP SHIFTING THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICTS WITH GAS TANKS OR, OR CANOPIES, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THIS, UH, IN THIS UPDATE.UM, AND THEN SHRINKING IT TO A FOUR LANE SECTION ALSO, UH, REDUCES GREATLY THE IMPACTS ON THE, UM, PROPERTIES ON THE, ON THE SOUTH SIDE AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL GOOD NEWS THERE TO, TO REDUCE THOSE IMPACTS.
WHAT'S NOT EXPRESSED, UH, ON HERE THOUGH IS THAT THAT DOES COME AT THE COST OF YOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, OPERATIONS OF HOW TRAFFIC MOVES THROUGH THIS SECTION OF, OF LEER LOOP.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I MENTIONED AT THE, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION THAT LEER HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO BE, UH, TO BE A MAJOR ARTERIAL, THAT SIX LANE SECTION, IT'S SUPPOSED TO CARRY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TRAFFIC AT A RELIABLE SPEED.
UM, WHEN YOU REDUCE THIS TO A FOUR LANE SECTION, YOU COMPROMISE THAT, UH, A LITTLE BIT.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING THAT RELIABLE, STABLE TRAFFIC, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE YOUR GOOGLE MAPS ON, IT'S SHOWING UP AS GREEN OR BLUE, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IT.
UM, IN THIS, UH, IN THIS FOUR LANE SECTION, YOU START TO SEE THAT KIND OF LIKE YELLOW WHERE THERE'S A BIT MORE TRAFFIC, UH, BUILT UP.
UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE GIVE AND TAKE THERE.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TODAY IS TO CONVEY THESE FINDINGS, UH, CONVEY WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, A POTENTIAL TO REDUCE THE SECTION TO A FOUR LANES, UH, AND GET OUT OF SOME OF THOSE, UH, THOSE MAJOR IMPACTS.
UH, BUT ALSO TO CONVEY THAT IT WOULD BE OUT OF ALIGNMENT WITH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND YOU WOULD HAVE A LOWER LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR TRAFFIC, UH, THROUGH THIS SECTION.
THE ADJACENT SECTION IS GOING TO HAVE SOME VERY SIMILAR CONSTRAINTS.
SO IT'S WHAT'S THE COST DIFFERENCE? 'CAUSE THAT DOES, GIMME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE THERE.
UM, BECAUSE I CAN, I CAN FORESEE IN THE FUTURE AS THEN GOING TO HAVE, GOING BACK AND HAVING TO TAKE THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S EXPONENTIALLY MORE MONEY.
UM, AND THEN MAKING IT RIGHT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT A FOUR LANE ROAD LONG TERM, THIS IS A, THIS IS OUR ONLY NORTH, EAST, WEST ROAD THAT'S GONNA COME THROUGH TOWN.
AND SO I KIND OF CAN SEE KIND, WE HAVE THE ISSUE WITH, YOU'RE NOT FROM THIS AREA, BUT 79 IS WHAT WE HAVE THE ISSUE WITH.
LIBBY CAN'T EXPAND IT NOW, AND WE'D LIKE TO, AND IT'S LIKE YOU'RE STUCK.
AND SO I CAN SEE IN THE FUTURE YOU BASICALLY HAVE A LIMBER LOOP THAT'S JUST CLOGGED ALL THE TIME.
AND WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE MAYBE THE VOTE TONIGHT AND GOING, WE SHOULD HAVE PROBABLY NOT HAVE DONE THAT.
UM, BUT IS THERE LIKE A MAJOR COST DIFFERENCE NOT LAYING THE ASPHALT TODAY TO WHERE FOUR LANE CONSTRUCTION IS LIKE 5,000,003 LANE IS LIKE 9 MILLION TO WHERE, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST DIFFERENCE IN JUST CONSTRUCTION COST.
THERE'S OBVIOUSLY MORE PAVEMENT INVOLVED WITH THE SIX LANE SECTION THAN A FOUR LANE SECTION, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE CONSIDERATIONS OF THERE ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTS.
SO BOTH UTILITIES MORE PROPOSED RIGHT AWAY FROM YOUR C STORES AND, UH, THE, THE EXXON.
AND SO THERE'S COST AND TIME ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, WITH THOSE IMPACTS.
UM, I CAN'T REALLY PUT A, A PRICE TO THAT OR AN ESTIMATED COST TO THAT, BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE UP AGAINST.
BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IF, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET THAT SIX LANE SECTION IN NOW, UM, IT'S GOING TO, IT'S JUST SIMPLY GONNA BE EASIER TO DO IT TODAY THAN IT IS GONNA BE 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
AND MAYOR COUNCIL, UM, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO DECIDE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THE SIX LANE ULTIMATE AND THEN ACQUIRE THE RIGHT OF WAY TODAY WITH THAT PLAN.
AND THEN STILL BUILD THE FOUR LANE SEGMENT, YOU KNOW, DESIGN THE PLAN IN SUCH A WAY IT COULD BE BUILT WITH A FOUR LANE SEGMENT TODAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE'VE ADDRESSED THE CONFLICTS NOW FOR THAT EXPANSION IN THE FUTURE.
THAT'S ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TOO.
SO WHEN PEOPLE PLOT THEIR PROPERTY, WE'RE, WE'RE TAKEN RIGHT AWAY AT THAT POINT.
WE'D HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND, AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO HANDLE THE CONFLICTS WITH THE CANOPY OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE C STORE AND THEN THE, UM, THE C STORE ON THE NORTH THAT'S GOING THERE.
SO WE'D GO HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND RESOLVE THAT TODAY, BUT YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND DO EFFECTIVELY THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE, FOR THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT AND THEN HAVE THE, THE DESIGN TEAM DESIGN
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THAT AS A FUTURE PHASE TO BUILD, TO BE BUILT.AND I SUSPECT WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS SPLIT IT IN THE MIDDLE AND HAVE IT TO WHERE YOU COME BACK AND BUILD THE LANES IN THE MIDDLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE.
SO IT JUST REMINDS ME OF THE LIVE OAK EXCHANGE INTERSECTION WHEN, WHEN YOU FIRST GOT HERE IT WAS LIKE, HEY, THAT'S NOT LINING UP, BUT THEY'RE ALREADY KIND OF IN CONSTRUCTION, SO WHAT DO WE DO? AND WE KIND OF PROCEEDED ONLY TO COME BACK THREE YEARS LATER AND GO, WELL IT'S GONNA BE EXPENSIVE, BUT NOW WE GOTTA PUT IN A ROUNDABOUT AND DO ALL THIS STUFF TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
AND I REMEMBER THAT DAY GOING, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE JUST SAID, HEY, THIS REALLY SUCKS
UM, BECAUSE IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE LATER ON.
AND, AND, AND I WILL NOTE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, I MADE THAT ALLUSION TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR GOOGLE MAPS WOULD SHOW, UM, OUR PRELIMINARY, UM, ANALYSIS OF IT.
SO IT KIND OF GOES FROM A TO FA OBVIOUSLY IS YOUR EASY BREEZY DRIVE AND AND F IS, I'M STUCK HERE FOR QUITE A BIT.
WE WERE SEEING IT AT ABOUT A LEVEL OF SERVICE D WHICH AGAIN KIND OF EQUATES TO YOUR, YOUR YELLOW.
SO, UH, A LITTLE PAINFUL, BUT NOT, NOT A PARKING LOT EITHER.
YOU'RE SAYING D IF WE DID FOUR LANES, NOT D TODAY IT'S FOUR LANES.
WHAT IS IT TODAY? THE LEVEL OF SERVICE? YEAH, THAT I DO NOT KNOW.
SO WE'D BE GOING FROM F TO D ADD TWO LANES AND GO TO D.
WE CAN'T BE BETTER THAN D RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE'RE ADDING MORE, WE'RE ADDING MORE CARS, SO IT'LL IMPROVE THE SITUATION TEMPORARILY.
YOU YOU BUILD MORE LANES, MORE PEOPLE USE IT.
OH YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEARL ESTATES EVERY TIME PEARL ESTATES AND THERE ARE A THOUSAND PEOPLE WANNA DO SOMETHING, THEY GOTTA GO DOWN THIS ROAD AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO DOWN EDGE SCHMIDT TO GO TO HOME DEPOT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE HOTEL COMING ON LIER LOOP.
UM, I KNEW THERE WAS A RIGHT OF WAY ISSUE BECAUSE I THINK THE HOTEL PEOPLE WERE REACHING OUT SAYING THAT WE WERE SLOWING A PROJECT DOWN OR SOMETHING DUE TO RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT YEAH, NO, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONVENIENCE STORE WANTING THE LEFT TURN LANE, BUT THAT TAKES A LANE RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, I MEAN YOU COULDN'T GET SIX LANES JUST BY FIXING THAT, BUT YOU COULD GET FIVE LANES IF YOU DIDN'T GIVE THEM THE TURN LANE AND MAINTAIN THE THREE LANES A LITTLE FURTHER ALONG.
I THINK, I MEAN, YOU COULD AT LEAST KEEP IT EXPANDED LONGER.
I, I MEAN, I'M ANNOYED THAT WE GOT THROUGH THAT GAS STATION WASN'T APPROVED ALL THAT LONG AGO AND WE KNEW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING LIMMER AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED AT THE TIME.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG MISS ON THE CITY'S PART AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT THEN.
I MEAN I I THINK WE GOTTA HEAR ABOUT THE, THE EAST PART TOO BECAUSE THERE, THERE IS A DEFINITE RESTRICTION THERE, THE BUILDING, EVERYTHING'S BUILT CLOSER TO THE ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO WHEN WE HEAR THAT SECOND PART THAT MIGHT IMPACT IT.
BUT I THINK THE SIX LANES, YEAH, I'D INTERESTING TO SEE THE EAST SIDE 'CAUSE I WASN'T CONCERNED AS CONCERNED THERE BECAUSE THERE'S THAT UTILITY EASEMENT THAT GOES ALMOST THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF LIMMER ON THE NORTH SIDE, NORTH SIDE.
WELL THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT UTILITIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW THERE WAS UTILITY WORK GOING, GOING EVEN ON THIS WESTERN SECTION ALL ALONG LIMMER TOO IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
SO OH YEAH, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY A WATER LINE ON IT.
YEAH, SO I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW JOHN PUT A WATER LINE IN THERE.
I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO RELOCATE AND THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG DEAL TOO.
SO YEAH, WE NEED TO GET BETTER AT MAINTAINING THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE NEED FOR A ROAD, EVEN IF WE DON'T BUILD IT RIGHT AWAY.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE WEST SIDE BEFORE WE HIT THE EAST? ALL RIGHT, THANKS SIR.
WSB THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK.
UM, I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ALL THE SAME DETAILS, BUT AGAIN, WE ARE SCOPED TO DO A SCHEMATIC DESIGN TO A MAJOR ARTERIAL TO SET THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE JUST LIKE JMT WAS.
UM, WE DELIVERED THAT SCHEMATIC IN JULY, WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN AUGUST.
YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY SEEN THIS AND RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO LANES WITH THE CENTER TURN LANE AND IT WOULD GO TO A, UH, SIX LANE HIGHWAY WITH A MAJOR ARTERIAL.
UM, AGAIN, WE, WE DID THAT IN THE SCHEMATIC.
WE HAVE YOUR 10 FOOT SHARED USE PASS, IT'S CALLED BY THE TRAIL, UH, TRAILS MASTER PLAN.
UM, WE HAVE AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT I'LL SHOW YOU AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE SCHEMATIC.
UM, THERE IS YOUR PROJECT THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED AT EXCHANGE AND LIMB.
UM, WE, WE SET OUR ROADWAY TO THAT SO YOU WOULD NOT LOSE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, IT WOULD JUST BE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROJECT AND WE WENT NORTH FROM
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THERE AND THEN WE RECEIVED 45 PUBLIC COMMENTS.AND UM, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR SOME INPUT, UM, SAME AS JMT.
DO WE CONTINUE WITH THE MAJOR ARTERIAL OR DO WE NARROW IT UP? SO I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH IT INTO THREE SLIDES.
UM, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE INTERSECTION AT LIMMER AND EDGEMAN IS GRAYED OUT.
WE WILL INCLUDE THAT IN OUR PROJECT.
UH, WE JUST TRULY DID NOT PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO LINE UP BOTH OF OUR PROJECTS AND WE WILL LINE THAT UP GRADE WITH LANES AND THE NUMBER OF TURN LANES.
WE KNOW WHAT'S WARRANTED, UM, ESPECIALLY WESTBOUND.
UM, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE YOU GET THE NUMBER OF LANES THAT YOU NEED TO.
UM, BUT WE NEED TO, UH, MA MATCH UP THIS GEOMETRY BETWEEN JTS PROJECT AND WSPS.
SO IF I'M WORKING, UH, GOING WEST, UM, YOU'VE GOT YOUR THREE LANES GOING WEST AND THEN, UM, AT ANDERSON AND WESTFIELD, UM, LEFT TURN LANES AND RIGHT TURN LANES WERE WARRANTED, UM, WHEN WE CONSIDER TRAFFIC COUNTS AND GROWTH.
UM, SO WE HAVE TURN LANES IN ALL DIRECTIONS AND WHEN YOU GO WEST AND AS YOU'RE APPROACHING EDGE SMITH, UM, YOU HAVE DOUBLE LEFTS GOING SOUTH INTO EDGE SMITH, YOU'VE SMITH, YOU'VE GOT TWO THROUGH LANES AND A DEDICATED RIGHT.
ALL OF THAT IS WARRANTED BY TRAFFIC COUNTS.
UM, PLEASE NOTE YOU'VE GOT THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
UM, WE MATCH THAT RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
WE DID NOT ASSUME YOU WOULD GET ANY RIGHT OF WAY FROM THOSE RESIDENTS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT DOES WHEN YOU WIDEN THE ROAD, IT PUSHES EVERYTHING TO THE NORTH.
BUT YOU SEE THIS WHITE THING IN THE BACKGROUND THAT IS THE PROPOSED HIGHLANDS OF HUDU AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD TO SEE.
WE LAID IT IN TO SCALE AND THAT'S THEIR SITE PLAN.
THE REALLY UNFORTUNATE THING HERE IS THEY HAVE A SITE PLAN AND THOSE ARE BUILDINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A POINTER HERE, I'M SO SORRY I DON'T.
UM, BUT THIS ROADWAY GOES THROUGH ALL OF THEIR PROPOSED BUILDINGS.
UM, AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET THE HU ISD PROJECT.
THIS IS EXCHANGE, UM, AND LIMMER.
AND AGAIN, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS.
WE ARE NOT SHOWING TO GET ANY RIGHT OF WAY FROM HUDU ISD.
WE'RE TYING INTO YOUR PROJECT THAT YOU JUST COMPLETED, MAINTAINING THAT SIGNAL, BUT WIDENING IT TO THE NORTH TO MAINTAIN, UM, AND STRIVE FOR ALL THOSE SIX LANES THAT YOU NEED.
AND AGAIN, UM, YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER HERE WE ARE, UH, GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
I'M GONNA GO TO THE EASTERN THIRD OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THE CHURCH, UM, THIS IS AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN YOUR MAJOR ARTERIAL.
WE HAVE A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE CHURCH GOING EAST AND WE HAVE A LEFT TURN LANE GOING WEST INTO ADRIANA LANE AND RIGHT TURN LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND THEN IN THE EAST SIDE WHERE IT TURNS FROM MY PINK COLOR TO GRAY, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TYING INTO THE PROJECT YOU JUST DID OVER COTTONWOOD CREEK.
THAT IS A TWO LANE, UH, OVERPASS, I'M GONNA CALL IT OVERPASS, LIKE CULVERT CROSSING WITH A CENTER TURN LANE.
AND SO IT, IT REALLY KIND OF GETS NECKED DOWN TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS, THIS MERGE IS HAPPENING.
UM, WE CERTAINLY NEED TO PUT A LITTLE BIT MORE THOUGHT INTO THAT TO MAKE THAT LOT MORE CLEAR IF WE DO PROCEED WITH THIS MANY LANES.
UM, BUT JUST KNOW THAT IT WILL BE GOING BACK DOWN EASTBOUND TO ONE LANE, BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING WESTBOUND, UM, IT'LL BE A NICE TRANSITION FROM ONE LANE TO THREE LANES.
UM, AGAIN, I'M NOT ASKING, UM, DIDN'T SHOW ANY RIGHT OF WAY NEEDED FROM THE RESIDENCE AND IT WOULD ALL BE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
UM, AND THEN TO TAKE CARE OF DRAINAGE, WE'VE IDENTIFIED TWO PONDS THAT WE NEED.
UM, I DIDN'T PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO DE UH, DESIGNING THESE PONDS JUST YET, JUST IN CASE WE DO NARROW UP THIS SECTION.
UM, JUST WANTED TO RESERVE SOME FUNDS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE YOUR REQUEST.
UM, SO THAT THAT IS WHAT THE EAST SIDE LOOKS LIKE AND WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY COMMENTS OR CONCERNS AND DIRECTION FROM YOU ON WHAT UM, WE TAKE INTO FINAL DESIGN AS WELL AS GMT, WHICH AGAIN WOULD DICTATE WHAT RIGHT OF WAY WE GO AND ACQUIRE.
AND THEN WHAT UTILITIES WE RELOCATE.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S MORE THAN ONE LANE EACH WAY.
AM I OFF ON THE EAST SIDE HERE? IT IS.
YEAH, THREE LANES TO ONE SEEMS, I MEAN THAT'S, WE, WE WERE CONCERNED WITH GOING FROM THREE TO TWO BEFORE AND TO GO FROM THREE TO ONE THAT THAT WOULD BE A MASSIVE BOTTLENECK WOULDN'T IT? MM-HMM
WELL HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS GOING STRAIGHT THROUGH IN THAT DIRECTION? WELL A LOT OF THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING UP 1660.
YEAH, BUT IT GOES TO ONE LANE TO GET TO 1660.
IT ALMOST SHOULD MAYBE BE TWO TURN LANES ONTO 1660 NORTH.
BUT IT'S ONLY FROM THE CREEK EAST.
WHERE IT GOES TO LEFT TURN LANE.
WELL LONG TERM IT'S GONNA BE THE MAJOR
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EAST WEST ARTERIAL.SO EVENTUALLY ONE LANE'S NOT GONNA BE, WELL THAT'S BEYOND THE SCOPE HERE IS THAT, THAT SECTION FROM EAST OF 1660 TO FURTHER EAST THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN SCOPED YET.
YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT NOT BE GREAT TODAY, BUT WE DIDN'T ASK THEM TO DO THAT SECTION YET SO WELL BUT LIMMER LOOP GOING EASTBOUND WHEN IT GETS TO 1660, IT'S FOUR LANES.
YEAH, THERE'S A DEDICATED RIGHT, A DEDICATED STRAIGHT AND DEDICATED LEFT.
SO THERE'S FOUR THERE RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST THIS, THIS, OKAY, THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING BECAUSE I DIDN'T REMEMBER IT BEING ONE LANE WHEN I GOT TO THE LIGHT, BUT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I'D GO AHEAD AND FIX THAT THEN.
I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA GO FROM THREE TO ONE, BACK TO THREE OR FOUR, THAT'S YEAH.
FROM THE CREEK TO THE WEST TO THIS BOTTLENECK IS THE PROBLEM.
SO WHAT'S THE REASON FOR GOING DOWN TO ONE LANE EACH WAY? UM, JUST TO TIE INTO THE PROJECT THAT WAS RECENTLY DONE AND NOT REDOING AND THAT PROJECT THAT'S NOT, DO WE DON'T HAVE PLANS TO WIDEN THAT? 'CAUSE I THOUGHT THAT WAS, I MEAN WE DEFINITELY HAVE ROOM TO DO IT.
COUNSEL FOR THE RECORD, MATT RECTOR, CITY ENGINEER.
SO AN ANGELA'S RIGHT WHEN WE, AS WHEN WE SCOPED THIS PROJECT WITH HER TEAM, WE WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CONSTRUCTING THAT PART OF LEER LOOP IN 1660 AND KNOWING ALL OF THE STRUGGLES AND ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD THERE, I FIGURED IT WOULD BE A BAD IDEA FOR ME TO COME IN FRONT OF COUNCIL AND SAY, HEY, LET'S TEAR UP THE ROAD THAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR FOUR YEARS THAT WE JUST FINISHED BUILDING.
BUT I MEAN, I DO AGREE THAT THE TRAFFIC NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF THE FACT THAT WE WORKED FOR SO LONG TO GET THIS THING BUILT AND THEN WE WERE GONNA COME IN HERE AND TELL YOU GUYS, HEY, IT'S TIME TO GO IN HERE AND PUT IT BACK UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO MAKE IT WIDER BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GET WIDE ENOUGH THE FIRST TIME.
SO ON OUR, ON OUR TRAFFIC COUNTS OR OUR REAL TRAFFIC COUNTS, LIKE WHAT ARE WE SEEING ON THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS? AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SCOPED THE WEST SIDE FROM AT FROM EDGE SCHMIDT WEST AND I ASSUME THAT THERE'S A VERY DIFFERENT TRAFFIC COUNT ON THAT SIDE AND THE SEVEN NINE INTERSECTION THAN THERE IS ON THIS SIDE, WHETHER YOU'RE AT ONE END OR THE OTHER.
SO MAYBE IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE CAN PLAN FOR THE FULL BUILD OUT, BUT MAYBE WE, THE FIRST CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WE DO IS THE INTERSECTION AT ED SCHMIDT AND WEST, PARTICULARLY WITH THE, WITH THE ACCESS ROADS.
WE WON'T GONNA BE GOING IN AT ONE 30.
MAYBE DO THAT FIRST THEN THIS WORK THAT WE'VE DONE AGES WHILE WE ARE PREPARING, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT SEGMENT, ASSUMING WE DON'T JUST BUILD THE WHOLE THING FROM BEGINNING TO END.
ANOTHER THING, UM, THAT I SEE, LIKE MY, I SEE AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA CHUCKLE WHEN I SAY THIS, BUT UM, THERE'S A LOT OF THESE LANES THAT ARE ON HERE IN ORDER TO BUILD A TURN RIGHT AND LEFT.
THERE ARE RIGHT LEFT MOVEMENT LANES.
IF YOU, IF YOU FLIP THIS, THE TWO THROUGH LANES AND ROUNDABOUTS AT THOSE INTERSECTIONS, YOU WOULD NOT NEED THOSE EXTRA LANES FOR RIGHT.
AND LEFT HAND DEDICATED TURNS AND YOU COULD SAY PAVEMENT.
WELL IT'S FUNNY YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA BRING UP TO US WHEN WE GET TO THE ENGINEERING MANUAL APPROVAL IS TECH DOTS GOING TO THIS, UM, WHAT'S THAT THING THEY DO? I WANNA SAY ICER ICE.
THEY'RE DOING THAT AND I WAS TALKING TO THOSE GUYS AND ALMOST ANYTHING WITH TRAFFIC ON IT FROM THE HIGHEST UP IS NOW GONNA BE A A TRAFFIC CIRCLE.
ROUND ABOUT ROUND AND ABOUT ROUNDABOUT.
AND SO THAT'S THE NEW FOCUS COMING FROM TXDOT EVERYWHERE.
AND, AND THEY SAID, THEY TOLD ME ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE HAVING IS THAT CITIES, THE ISD IS NOT CATCHING ON TO THE NEW CHANGES.
AND SO A LOT OF THE CONFLICTS WE'RE HAVING, WHICH IS DELAY IN TIMELINES AND COST, IS THAT ROUNDABOUTS ARE NOW IN.
AND THE QUICKER WE ALL GET ON BOARD, WELL THEN EVERY TIME YOU TOUCH A TXDOT ROAD IT'S A ROUNDABOUT, BUT THEN YOU GET HERE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NOT.
AND THERE IS A CITY IN INDIANA THAT HAS, I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE ROUNDABOUTS.
BUT IT'S LIKE THE ROUNDABOUT CAPITAL.
UM, I GOT A BOOK UPSTAIRS CALLED CARMEL ROUNDABOUT.
I MEAN IT'S ANOTHER ROAD THAT'S DONE AND I GET THE GROWTH, BUT WELL IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A PARKING LOT OUT THERE TODAY.
I MEAN IT NO, BUT IT'S IMPROVEMENTS.
WE, HERE'S THE PROBLEM, IT'S IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE GONNA TEAR UP BEFORE WE EVEN PAID THEM OFF.
SO I MEAN, DOES ANYBODY OUT THERE GO OUT AND BUY A CAR AND THEN GO OUT AND SCRAP IT WHEN THEY'RE STILL MAKING PAYMENTS ON IT? RIGHT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THREE LANES TO THIS WHOLE THING
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BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE DO LESS THAN THAT, WE COME BACK FOUR YEARS LATER, WE HAVE A LIFT STATION NORTH OF HERE.THAT'S THE CONCRETE, HADN'T EVEN CURED YET.
WE HAVE THIS HERE AND WE JUST ACCEPTED THESE IMPROVEMENTS A MONTH AGO AND NOW WE'RE LIKE, WELL IT'S EITHER ONE LANE OR RIP IT UP AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, BUT I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA OF MAYBE WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WE HAVE THE DESIGN IN, WE DO LIKE THEY DID ALONG UNIVERSITY, THEY PUT FOUR LANES IN, THEY HAD EVERYTHING, UM, GRADED FOR THE ADDITIONAL LANE THEN, THEN THEY CAME BACK LATER, FIVE YEARS LATER CLEAR AND GRABBED, LAID IT AND THEY WERE DONE.
I MEAN I THINK YOU STILL HAVE TO DO ALL THE WORK FULL BUILD OUT BECAUSE OTHERWISE TWO YEARS FROM NOW YOU'RE GONNA COME UP AND SAY, WELL WE GOTTA PULL THE TRIGGER NOW BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS BACKING UP ALL THE WAY TO ED SCHMIDT.
BUT MAN, WE'VE GOTTA START BUILDING STUFF AT FULL, AT FULL BUILD OUT OR AT LEAST HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR IT.
'CAUSE IT IS SEVERELY HURTING US IN MY MIND.
BUT YEAH, I LIKE TO ADD, I LIKE TO CITY MANAGER'S APPROACH THAT WE LOOK AT SIX LANES, GET THE RIGHT OF WAY, DO ALL THAT NOW AND THEN, AND THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY FOR A QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED NOW, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC FLOWS, IF WE, IF WE TAKE THE EAST SIDE AND BREAK IT UP INTO THREE SECTIONS GOING FROM EAST TO WEST AND ALSO, UM, WEST OF OF EDGE SCHMIDT, THOSE THREE SECTIONS THERE.
'CAUSE I DRIVE THAT EVERY DAY.
SO I'M GOING FROM LIME FROM FROM 1660 HEADING WEST.
MAJORITY OF THAT TRAFFIC IS TURNING LEFT SOUTH ONTO, UH, EDGE SCHMIDT THERE.
SO THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, AGAIN, NOT TO ANSWER.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY WHERE YOU DO SIX LANES MAYBE HERE IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS ON THE EAST SIDE AND THEN WHEN YOU GET OVER TO TO ED SCHMIDT, YOU GO BACK DOWN TO FOUR LANES JUST TO REDUCE REAL TIME CONSTRUCTION COSTS NOW.
BUT AGAIN, THAT HAS TO DO WITH TRAFFIC FLOWS.
AND WHAT I SEE TODAY IS NOT WHAT'S GONNA BE NEXT MONTH OR NEXT YEAR, BUT JUST THE POSSIBILITIES THAT ONE, IS IT FEASIBLE AND VIABLE AND AND DO WE HAVE THE INFORMATION FROM THE, YOU KNOW, SEGMENTED TRAFFIC FLOWS WITHIN THOSE DIFFERENT PORTIONS AS THEY GO INTO THE SCHOOL, INTO THE CHURCH AND, AND, AND THEN INTO THE NEW HIGHLAND HIGHLANDS OF HU AS WELL.
AND THEN THEN EXCHANGE AS IT BECOMES MORE VIABLE AS A NORTH SOUTH CITY STREET.
SO I, I CANNOT ANSWER THE CITY MANAGER'S QUESTION, NOR YOUR QUESTION ON I UNDERSTAND EXACT TRAFFIC FLOW DATA.
UH, I HAVE BEEN OUT ON LIMMER MULTIPLE TIMES BECAUSE OF THE SIGNALS THAT WE'VE BEEN ACTIVATING OR CHANGING OR ADJUSTING.
AND I CAN TELL YOU, I'VE TALKED TO PD IN, IN MULTIPLE SETTINGS WHERE WE'RE OUT THERE WATCHING THE TRAFFIC.
UM, AND SO WHILE I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW IS COMING SOUTH ON 1660, TURNING WEST ONTO LIMBER LOOP AND THEN TURNING SOUTH ONTO ED SCHMIDT, THE IMPLICATION IS THAT, OR THE, NOT THE IMPLICATION, SORRY, WRONG WORD.
THE, UH, INDICATION ARE THAT PD IS SEEING A LARGE NUMBER ALSO GOING ON TO INNOVATION BECAUSE THEY'RE USING THAT AS A CUT THROUGH TO GET THROUGH ONTO ONE 30.
SO I BELIEVE ONCE WE DO THE FRONTAGE ROAD, YOU'RE GONNA SEE LESS OF THAT TRAFFIC GOING DOWN EDGE SCHMIDT, LESS OF IT GOING DOWN INNOVATION AND ALL OF IT GOING, OR NOT ALL OF IT.
A LOT OF IT GOING TOWARDS SH ONE 30.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CRUX OF WHAT WE DO AS TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, RIGHT, IS WE'RE TRYING TO GUESS AT WHAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO WHEN ALL THESE OTHER CHANGES HAPPEN.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO PULL LEVERS AND PUSH BUTTONS AND SAY, OKAY, WHAT IF, WHAT IF, WHAT IF, WHAT IF? AND THEN WE MAKE THE BEST CALL THAT WE CAN BASED ON THOSE MODELS.
I MEAN YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE GURU HERE.
I I THINK YOU GUYS ARE MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICE AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR MAJOR ARTERIAL EAST WEST, YOU ALREADY SEE TRAFFIC TODAY.
YOUR CITY IS GROWING, WE ASSUME SOME AGGRESSIVE GROWTH, UM, FOR TRAFFIC COUNTS AND WITH OUR PROJECTIONS AND IT, AND IT WARRANTS A, A SIX LANE ROAD IN EACH DIRECTION TO MAINTAIN A LEVEL OF SERVICE C THAT'S JUST A C.
AND IF WE PUT FRONTAGE ROADS AND MAKE LIMBER AND ONE 30 BE A FULL INTERCHANGE, YOU JUST NOW, NOW YOU'RE REALLY TAKING TRAFFIC OFF 79, WHICH WE WANT.
AND NOW YOU PUSH IT TO LIMBER AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO ALL THAT WORK AND THEN TO HAVE IT ALL BOTTLENECKED NEW BOTTLENECK PLUS I DON'T KNOW HOW REALISTIC THOSE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LIME.
I'M NOT REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THIS.
UH, HIGHLANDS OF HU IT'S A HUNDRED FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE A HUNDRED FOOT RIGHT AWAY FROM THAT POLE, IT'S GONNA BE 50 FOOT ON THE SOUTH OF THE POLE.
AND I'M SITTING HERE LOOKING, I DON'T KNOW HOW WIDE HIS LAND IS OR HER LAND.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN BUILD A BUILDING THERE AND I THINK YOU CAN, AN ENGINEER WILL DRAW IT ON PAPER, BUT YOU STILL GOTTA GET ENCORE TO APPROVE THAT.
AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU NOW, EASEMENTS UNDER THE
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POWER LINE.IT'S A HUNDRED FOOT, 50 FOOT ON EACH SIDE.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU NOW, THERE IS NO WAY AN ACT OF CONGRESS WILL NOT GET A BUILDING UNDER THERE.
YOU CAN GET A CURB, YOU CAN GET PARKING AND YOU CAN GET BUSHES.
AND SO THEY GOT BUILDINGS PUT UP AND IT LOOKS LIKE, I GUESS UP ON THE STREET AND MAYBE HAVE PARKING BEHIND THEM.
THEY, SO THEY'VE GOT BUILDINGS DOWN OFF OF LI CLOSE TO LOOP AND THEN THE PARKING LOTS ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S, I MEAN YOU CAN'T EVEN PUT A LIGHT POLE OF, I THINK IT'S LIKE 12 FEET OR SOMETHING.
IT'LL AFFECT THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION COST BECAUSE THEY'LL, THEY'LL CLAIM THAT AS, YOU KNOW, A WELL THEY, THEY MAY, WE JUST EMINENT DOMAIN AND THEY CAN, WE CAN GET A LETTER FROM ENCORE THAT SHOWS THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD A BUILDING UNDER THERE.
BUT, BUT AGAIN, I WOULD, I THINK YOU GOTTA DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN YOU GET OVER TO THE, THE SLIDE WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO ED SCHMIDT.
SO TO ME IT'S A LITTLE GOOFY THAT IF YOU HAVE THREE LANES GOING WESTBOUND AND THEN YOU COME TO THE INTERSECTION WITH TWO MM-HMM
'CAUSE I'M TRYING TO THINK DRIVING THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU, HOW YOU SIGN ALL THAT AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE, THE DOUBLE LEFT ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT LEFT, THAT THAT PERSON'S GONNA GO STRAIGHT SOMETIMES, WHICH IS GONNA CREATE A CONFLICT BECAUSE TWO, TWO LANES GOING IN, TWO LANES GOING OUT AND A ROUNDABOUT AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT PROBLEM.
WELL AGAIN, I, I HATED, I, I STILL HATE ROUNDABOUTS, BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I HATE 'EM, THAT IS THE DIRECTION OF TXDOT GOING FORWARD.
AND I WOULD SAY THIS NOT KNOCKING YOU GUYS, THEY HAVE A LOT OF VERY DEEP ANALYSIS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, ROUNDABOUTS SORT THE FLAVOR OF THE YEAR, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THEM IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
NORTH CAROLINA, MISSOURI IS BIG ON THEM.
SO GEORGETOWN'S GOT A COUPLE CEDAR PARKS GOT ONE.
SO JUST SAY MISSOURI WAS BIG ON THEM IN LIKE 2007.
SO WE HATE 'EM BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE AND WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
WELL WE HAVE AND WE HAVE SOME THAT AREN'T ROUNDABOUTS, BUT WE KEEP CALLING 'EM ROUNDABOUTS.
TURNABOUT, I I DO AGREE ON SOME OF THIS.
IF YOU DO IT RIGHT AND ENGINEER WISE WE SAY, HEY, YOU CAN RUN THREE LANES IN THERE AND IT'S ALL GONNA, OR YOU CAN RUN TWO LANES BUT IT OPERATES LIKE A THREE LANEER, WHATEVER IT IS.
I DO THINK WE NEED TO, UH, WHEN I TALKED TO TXDOT PEOPLE, I SAID, I THINK WE OUGHT BE RUNNING A NICE ICE ANALYSIS ON SOME OF THESE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE IF TDOT KNOWS HOW THEY WORK CORRECTLY AND WE'RE TRYING TO OUTSMART TDOT, IT'S VERY TOUGH I THINK FOR US TO GO AND SAY, YOU'RE WRONG.
AND THEY'VE GOT AN ENTIRE STATE THE SIZE OF A COUNTRY WITH ANALYSIS AND WE'RE USING, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE.
AND SO I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE DOING ICE STUFF.
WE NEED TO MAYBE REALLY BE LOOKING AT THOSE AND DOING IT RIGHT TODAY SO THAT WE'RE JUST REPAVING AND MILLING OVERLAYING AND NOT YOU COMING BACK IN FIVE YEARS AND GOING, HEY, WE NEED TO RIP UP WHAT WE JUST DID AND PUT A A ROUNDABOUT SO THAT, SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WANTED TO GET THIS SCHEMATIC IN FRONT OF THIS GROUP.
THAT'S WHY WE DIDN'T DO IT AS JUST A PRESENTATION SAYING, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
WE WANTED THIS KIND OF FEEDBACK BECAUSE I'VE GIVEN THESE GUYS VERY CLEAR DIRECTION.
DON'T TEAR UP A ROAD THAT WE JUST FINISHED.
RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO GET ME TO A LEVEL OF SERVICE C AND WHERE YOU CAN'T, THEN YOU HAVE TO TELL CITY COUNCIL WHY WE CAN'T SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS BECAUSE THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO GET MORE RIGHT OF WAY OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INTERRUPT PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID YES TO OR WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
SO THAT WAS WHY I WANTED THIS PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS SO YOU COULD GIVE US THAT DIRECTION SO WE CAN PIVOT NOW RATHER THAN GETTING 50%, 60% THROUGH DESIGN.
AND THEN YOU GO, WHY DID YOU DO THIS? MM-HMM
AND, AND, AND I KNOW, LIKE I KNOW I'LL TAKE A LOT OF FLACK FOR THE ROUNDABOUT STUFF AND I, AND I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BECAUSE I USED TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT EQUATION.
I USED TO BE THERE DUMB RIGHT? UNTIL I GOT EDUCATED.
AND THEN ONCE I GOT EDUCATED, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND NOT GO ALMOST ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE CONFLICTS AND MOVEMENT.
HOW DO WE GET PEDESTRIANS AROUND? HOW DO WE KEEP THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC MOVING? HOW DO WE REDUCE FATALITIES? ALL OF THAT'S RESOLVED BY ROUNDABOUTS AND YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE TOOLS THAT WE TEND TO NOT EVEN LOOK AT.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE RIGHT IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE 'CAUSE THERE ARE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE ROBOTS DO MAKE MORE SENSE.
BUT I THINK IF YOU WENT, IF WE ASK THEM TO GO BACK AND REPRO AND REMODEL THIS WITH ROUNDABOUTS IN TWO LANES, I BET YOU YOU CAN GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT SAME AREA ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S ROUNDABOUTS THE WHOLE WAY AND YOU'RE ABLE TO FIT WITHIN YOUR EXISTING RIDE OF WAY, MAYBE, UM, YOU'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE INTERSECTION AT EDGE SCHMIDT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
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YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S ALREADY A LOT OF PAVEMENT, UH, IN RIGHT NOW.SO MAYBE THE FOOTPRINT WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT THERE.
BUT I BET YOU YOU'RE ABLE TO REDUCE THIS.
YOUR COSTS WILL GO UP AT THE INTERSECTIONS BECAUSE OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND GO DOWN EVERYWHERE ELSE IN BETWEEN.
HOW HARD IS IT TO DO, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS ICE ANALYSIS IS, BUT HOW HARD IS THAT TO GO THROUGH AND SAY, DO YOU DO IT ON INTERSECTION? DO YOU, DO YOU DO IT ON A STRETCH OF ROAD? LIKE TO COMPARE TWO OPTIONS? THE ICE, SO THE ICE, THE WHOLE THING.
IT ACTUALLY STANDS FOR INTERSECTION CONTROL EVALUATION.
SO IT, IT IS FOCUSED ON INTERSECTIONS.
IT'S NOT FOCUSED ON THE ROAD ITSELF.
BUT I MEAN DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE POTENTIALLY THAT WE DO IT HERE? WE DO IT AT INNOVATION.
SO DO IT AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? YEAH, ANY, ANYWHERE THAT THEY'RE THINKING WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNAL, LIKE EXCHANGE PRETTY MUCH PRETTY THE SIGNAL IS WHAT I MEAN MAINTENANCE, YOU, YOU GUYS, I MEAN I'M NOT KNOCKING Y'ALL, BUT YOU ALL THROW OUT LIKE A MILLION DOLLAR NUMBERS TO PUT IN A SIGNAL AND SO THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS TOWARDS A ROUNDABOUT RIGHT THERE THAT IF YOU TAKE OUT A SIGNAL.
NO, I MEAN SIGNALS FOR THE MOST PART, PARTICULARLY WITH THESE EXTENDED MASKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MILLION TO 1,000,002.
I'VE SEEN 'EM DONE FOR FOUR OR 500, BUT WE HAVE, WE WE'RE GETTING THERE ON THE CITY SIDE TO GET IT DOWN TO THE PRIVATE, BUT THAT'S STILL A HALF A MILLION.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING IS, I MEAN ICE STUDIES DONE AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS FOLLOW THE TECH STOCK WAY OF DOING BUSINESS AND THEN IF WE DEVIATE FROM THAT, WE CAN SIT THERE AND ASK, SINCE THEY'RE THE ONES HELL HALF OUR INTERSECTIONS OR COUNTY OR UH, STATE ANYWAY.
AND THEN WE CAN SIT BACK AND, UM, THEY'RE RIGHT NOW GIVE US A FEW VIEWS.
SINCE WE IMPROVE 'EM, THEY'RE GONNA WANT US TO TAKE 'EM OVER
THAT, AND I HATE DIVERGING DIAMONDS AND I HATE THAT ROAD THEY DID AT PECAN DOWN THERE, UH, IN VILLE WHERE YOU LEAVE THE HEB AND YOU GO THE WRONG WAY, BUT YOU GOT, WELL YOU, YOU GOT A BIG TRUCK, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN JUST GO RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THE ROUNDABOUTS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S BAD WHEN YOU PUT LIGHTS IN A ROADWAY TO KEEP IT LIT UP, BUT
IT CHANGES THE RADIUS OF THE INSCRIBED CIRCLE IS WHAT THEY CALL, 'CAUSE I MEAN INNOVATION, I THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION 'CAUSE THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT WAITING TRUCK TRAFFIC
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO THROW MY FANCY WORDS OUT THERE.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO DO AN ICE ANALYSIS? UM, A TWO MONTH DEAL.
I MEAN I GIMME A COUPLE WEEKS.
SO SHE'S TELLING ME A COUPLE WEEKS.
I MEAN I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN THE ISD 'CAUSE WE HAVE THAT PROJECT UP THERE AT UH, 1660 IN MAIN HIPPO.
SO THE ISD STARTED THEIR ICE, I WANNA SAY A MONTH AGO AND THEY ALL GOT RESPONSE BACK FROM TDOT.
SO IT, IT DOESN'T TAKE AND LO AND BEHOLD, I OFF TELL THEM, I'LL TELL YOU OFFLINE.
SO I'LL TELL YOU OFFLINE WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I KNOW THIS, IF YOU SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'D REALLY LIKE TO DO A ROUNDABOUT THERE.
IT'S JUST LIKE WE TALKED WITH THE PROJECTS IN THE WORKSHOP.
IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING AWAY, PEOPLE WANT TO GO.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH IT RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE WANT ROUNDABOUTS EVERYWHERE.
NOW
I'M SAYING THAT THEY SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE CONSIDER FOR EVERY INTERSECTION TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S THE FIT FOR THAT INTERSECTION OR NOT.
I WAS, I WAS I KNOW, BUT I WAS TAKING A WE PROBABLY NEED TO, I THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR SOCIAL MEDIA THAN IT IS FOR NO, I KNOW.
'CAUSE I SAW THE LIGHTS DIM WHEN PEOPLE HEARD THE TALKING AROUNDABOUT
BUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE GET ALL DONE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO TRY TO SEE WHAT THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL, 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL SO THAT WHEN WE DO GET BLASTED, IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, AT LEAST THEY KNOW WHO TO, WHO TO FINGER POINT AT AND THEN I CAN POINT 'EM TO YOU GUYS.
'CAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
WE'RE THE ONES THAT TELLING YOU, HEY, GO DO THIS OR DON'T DO IT.
UM, SO I'LL I'LL JUST SAY I THINK WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE NEED ON THESE AREAS AND GET THAT LIKE THE PEOPLE HIGHLANDS HU YES THEY'VE GOT PROBLEMS GETTING BUILDINGS IN WITH ENCORE, BUT IF WE NEED TO TAKE RIGHT OF WAY THERE, WE SHOULD BE TALKING TO THEM AS SOON AS WE CAN BEFORE THEY GET TOO FAR ALONG IN THEIR PROCESS.
AND THEN THE GAS STATE, THE GAS STATION CONVENIENCE STORE, THAT ONE IS, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED SOMETHING FROM THEM, WE BETTER GET ON THAT BEFORE THEY, THEY THROW SOMETHING UP THERE.
SO, WELL WE, WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH.
THAT'S WHY THEY'VE, THEY'VE ADJUSTED THEIR SITE PLAN TO ACCOUNT FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE'VE ALREADY ASKED FOR.
BUT IF, IF THE DIRECTION IS GO ASK FOR WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED, NEED WE NEED MORE, YEAH.
THEN, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE CHANGE TO THEIR PROJECT.
AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT A TURN LANE, BUT I WANT THE TRAFFIC FIXED MORE THAN I WANT THEIR TURN LANE.
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UM, IF THEY CAN GET BOTH, GREAT.IF, IF NOT THEN WE FIX THE TRAFFIC AND THEY DEAL WITH PEOPLE HAVING A, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO AROUND THE BLOCK TO GET INTO THEIR GAS STATION.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE YOU, WE DIRECT STAFF TO DO ICE ANALYSIS AT THE MAJOR INTERSECTIONS AND TO UM, I DON'T THINK WE CAN TAKE MOTION ACTION ON THIS ONE.
UH, IT SAYS DISCUSSION, PRESENTATION DISCUSSION.
I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG ITEM.
[14.3. Discussion and possible action regarding the implementation of a website chatbot to enhance website usability. (David Amsler)]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A WEBSITE CHATBOT TO ENHANCE WEBSITE USABILITY.I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE CHAT BOT FOR YOU.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A CHAT BOT FOR OUR WEBSITE.
SECOND, THAT'S HOW MUCH I HATE NAVIGATING OUR WEBSITE.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO BE AN EARLY TESTER.
UH, SO JUST ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
DURING THE TESTING PERIOD, UH, I WOULD LOVE FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE PART OF OUR TESTERS TO TRY TO BREAK THE SYSTEM SO THAT WHEN WE DO GO LIVE, YOU GUYS HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THE SYSTEM YOU WANT.
CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK FROM US.
DID ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE.
[15. EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
BEFORE I READ 15 ONE, IS THERE ANYTHING WE DON'T NEED TO READ ON THAT? SO ON 15 ONE A YOU HAVE THE, UH, RESOLUTION AND THE LEASE ON 16 TWO FOR ACTION.THE UM, AMERICAN LEGION HAS NOT SIGNED IT YET, SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA POSTPONE THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING OR JUST YOU WHEN YOU CONSIDER 16 TWO.
YOU CAN JUST DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN IT AFTER THEY SIGN IT OR BRING IT BACK IF UM, THERE'S ANY SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
ARE THERE ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS ON THE, THE LEASE? SO I DON'T THINK YOU'D NEED TO DO 15 ONE A 15, UH, 1D AND E OR TAKING AN OPEN SESSION, UM, EARLIER.
AND THEN ON UM, 15 THREE, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU CAN JUST DIRECT UM, THE LEGAL AND CITY MANAGER TO FINALIZE THE DOCUMENTS, GET WITH THE DEVELOPER AND DO, DO THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE LAND SWAP AND THEN BACK.
ANY LEGAL QUESTIONS ON 15 ONE B? THERE, THERE'S STUFF THAT WE, WE SHOULD DISCUSS IN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
ALRIGHT, I'LL JUST START READING 'CAUSE WE'LL SPEND MORE TIME DISCUSSING.
SO, UH, 15 ONE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.
CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO DELIBERATE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING THE FOLLOWING LEGAL MATTERS.
B, THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENTS FOR THE ALLOCATION OF SALES TAX REVENUE WITH THE CITY OF HU INCLUDING ANY AREA ANNEX BY THE CITY, HU, CITY OF HU WITHIN THE WILLIAMSON COUNTY EMERGENCY SERVICES DISTRICT NUMBER THREE C, THE CREATION OF THE STROMBURG PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT D, THE ANNEXATION OF THE KIRK TRACT D AND E.
WE ALREADY TOOK AN OPEN SESSION.
RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 CONSULT CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND DELIBERATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTIONS 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY 5 5 1 0.087.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS RELATED TO PENDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BEING CONSIDERED BY HUDU ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION OR THE CITY OF HUDU, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO.
A PROJECT CORE B PROJECT HARVEST C PROJECT ORCHARD D PROJECT LAKE EE PROJECT CHICKEN DUO F PROJECT NQ TWO G PROJECT FOOTBALL H PROJECT AIR I PROJECT COTTONWOOD J PROJECT AMP K PROJECT LIBRO L PROJECT TITAN AND PROJECT SQL AND PROJECT FLEX O PROJECT BLUEBIRD B MEGA SITE PROJECT AND Q PROJECT 2007 15 THREE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION
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5 5 5 1 0.071.CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY IN SECTION 5 5 1 0.07.
TWO REAL PROPERTY RECEIVE LEGAL ADVICE AND DELIBERATE REGARDING AN ORDINANCE TO DIRECT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE EXCHANGE OF CERTAIN LAND WITHIN THE CO-OP DISTRICT TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE TO IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S TURS DISTRICT AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PLANS TIMES 9 32.
[16. ACTION RELATIVE TO EXECUTIVE SESSION ]
IT'S 1151.WE'RE BACK FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.
NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS 16 ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION RELATED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ABOVE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, REQUESTS FOR MOTIONS FOR ACTION ON 16 ONE.
ALRIGHT, 16 TWO CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTION AND RESOLUTION NUMBER R DASH 2025 DASH TWO 90 APPROVING THE PROPOSED LEASE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 0 1 PARK STREET.
I KNOW TEXAS 7 8 6 3 4 AND THEY DIDN'T SIGN THAT YET, SO WE CAN'T EVEN DO THAT ONE YET.
WELL, YOU COULD PASS THE RESOLUTION WITH THE PROVISION THAT THE CITY MANAGER WOULD SIGN AFTER THE, UM, RICHARD A ALMAN OF THE AMERICAN LEGION POST AND IF NOT, IF THERE WERE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
YEAH, I'LL MAKE MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH THE STIPULATION THAT CITY MANAGER WILL SIGN AFTER THEY SIGN.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION OR CLARIFICATION.
I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T GO THROUGH IT AS DETAILED.
IS THERE ANY STIPULATION THAT ALLOWS 'EM TO PUT ANY OUTBUILDINGS, LIKE A, I DUNNO IF IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE A CONTAINER, BUT SPECIFICALLY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY, NORTH OF THE, THE, UH, DRIVEWAY.
THERE MAY BE SOME TREES THAT ARE INVOLVED, BUT THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THE, THE RENTAL AREA UP ON CR ONE 19 WITH A DUFFEL BAG.
SO TO REDUCE THEIR COSTS, I THOUGHT MAYBE IF THEY HAD SOME TYPE OF STORAGE FACILITY ON THERE AND THEY COULD REDUCE THAT RENTAL COST GOING FORWARD.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MORRIS, UH, MAYOR SARAH SANTES, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY SERVICES FOR THE RECORD, THAT WAS A LOT FOR ME TO GET OUT THIS LATE
UM, SO THERE IS, THERE'S NO STIPULATIONS THAT LIMITS WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DO TO THE PROPERTY.
OF COURSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO FALL WITHIN, UM, UDC, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
I DO KNOW THAT THAT STRUCTURE IS A CONTRIBUTING HISTORICAL STRUCTURE TO THAT DISTRICT.
UM, THAT STRUCTURE ALSO HAS THAT KIND OF, UM, PORTICO GARAGE.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ENCLOSED, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
UH, OF COURSE THAT'S ALL ALSO SUBJECT TO THE POTENTIAL HAZARDOUS MATERIALS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE LOCATED IN THAT AREA.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST, UM, QUESTION THERE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT LOT ITSELF IS BIG ENOUGH, BUT IF THEY PROPOSED ANY OF THAT, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF OUR TYPICAL, UM, ZONING AND EVALUATION PROCESSES.
IT WASN'T INTENTION OF WHETHER I WANTED IT OR NOT.
I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE WAS SOMETHING OUTRIGHT DENYING IT AT THIS TIME.
WHO WAS THE SECOND, UH, COUNCILMAN? GORDON.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
WERE THERE ANY COUNCIL MOTIONS ON THAT ONE? I THOUGHT THERE WAS ONE ON 15.
16 ONE CONSIDERATION POSSIBLE ACTS RELATED EXECUTIVE SESSION AGENDA ITEMS LISTED ABOVE.
AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MAYOR PRO TEM THORNTON.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD TO A ESD SUBCOMMITTEE.
I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NAME ON THAT WOULD BE.
ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE CALL THE VOTE COUNCIL MEMBER THOMPSON AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER PORTERFIELD AYE.
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ALRIGHT, NEXT WE[17. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS ]
HAVE ITEM 17.ONE GENERAL COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL.
WE HAVE NEXT WE HAVE ITEM 17, TWO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. UM, YEAH, I I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT AGENDA ITEM 10.59 REGARDING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES BE ADDED FOR FUTURE CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION AND PURPOSE OF REVISITING THIS ITEM IS TO OPENLY REVIEW ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES AND ENSURE THE CITY COUNCIL IS EXPLORING ALL OPTIONS TO AVOID FUTURE RATE INCREASES WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
AND THEN I'LL REQUEST AN ITEM THAT, UM, I'LL WORK WITH DOTTY ON THE, THE WORDING, BUT THE INSTALLATION OF A BANNER OR SIGN FOR THE LIVE OAK INNOVATION INTERSECTION REGARDING THE CONTRACTOR.
AND THEN AN ITEM UP ON NEXT AGENDA FOR RESOLUTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE SUPPORT OF AN I-S-D-B-H-I-S-D BUS BARN ON 6 85.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY? ALRIGHT, WE WILL ADJOURN AT 11:57 PM OCTOBER 2ND.